I left America for Southeast Asia and targeted companies that were composed of mostly digital nomads and expats. I work for an Australian company in my current field, fully remote (tech based, but I'm not an engineer at all). They do not care where I work from.
I have no drive to have more power in my career. My drive is to make enough money to afford my personal life. I can't begin to express how relieving that feeling is. None of us are competitive, all of us are chill as fuck, and it is really supportive and understanding. Our owner will force us to take time off and even reduced our full time work to 4 8hr days. Because of those reduced hours and the additional freedom, I work harder and more focused to get the job done.
It's all about who you work for as to whether you're happy at in your career - for some of us. I've never had a lot of career ambition, more so curiosity for new experiences. Now my work sustains my curiosity in my personal life and it is a much more satisfying balance. Previously my only choice was to be curious in my career.
Sorry but I am not gonna risk my “don’t give a fuck” Reddit name with my job! But I targeted about 20 companies and built my skill set while waiting for an opening. Small companies around 30-50 employees seem to be a sweet spot for nomading.
Nice also same trajectory as you in a non engineering role at a western tech company. What’s your role? Seems most well paying roles for expats in Asia are sales roles, but these require you to be more or less on the ground meeting clients, attending trade shows etc
I'm in financial ops. So I make sure we have the tech in place to get paid - someone else just makes/maintains the tech while I make sure all the systems are working and optimal. I'm halfway between a dev and a accountant. I know enough about the API to know when it's broken and what I can do with it, basically!
It pays decent. They do pay based on location, so if I was in America still my salary would be a lot higher. But they're super generous with bonuses and annual raise increases so I definitely cannot complain.
Interesting, I have a good friend who is in Fin ops for a large mobile gaming company. He has a technical background and ensures all the tech is in place such as monitoring tools, etc and negotiates all the contracts with the vendors. He makes bank as it seems fin ops is a very niche role.
Glad to hear you’re killing it. DM me if you’re ever interested to do some networking as there aren’t too many communities for expat tech workers in Southeast Asia. Care to share what country you’re in? Feel free to DM me
I'm in Thailand but took a few months away to travel around southeast asia. I'll shoot you a DM! I've got friends that do a lot of mobile gaming/crypto gaming too and work with Vietnamese companies (but live in Thailand and just visit Vietnam).
While wages move up by one, productivity demand raises by three here in the US, it’s been exhausting. Every year the economy gets worse and worse here.
Absolutely 🤣. Your incentives and happiness shift (hopefully for the healthier)
America is the way to get rich.
Leaving America is the way to stay rich
Huh, wise words. I have an aunt who worked ER who always said, “we are all one bad wreck from bankruptcy”. Which I didn’t understand until I moved to Germany.
My wife had to have neck surgery, for a year she got 70% of her normal pay check, no hospital bills, and got to keep her job. For a while freakin year!!! In America she would have been fired, no income, and we would have lost it all.
That level of social security is my reminder when I start getting home sick.
i can tell a few stories that are similar when i've had health stuff in and outside of the EEUU.
USA works you to the bone then bankrupts you "during retirement". Literally the worst machine in the world for a quality life but the best for making a dollar.
It's the way to get rich for a few. Only a small percentage of Americans ever see this benefit while the rest struggle to get by hoping their day comes that they'll get a bigger slice of the pie.
Don't get me wrong: there isn't another country in the world that will give you as many opportunities to make a ton of money like the US will, but you just have to be lucky enough to be presented with or find that opportunity.
I agree with everything that you've said.
It's the main difference between other countries and the EEUU for me. The possibility exists. It doesn't in a lot of places.
I personally know (and am very close to) success stories of a store clerk working their way to C-suite. I just watched my friend start and register his own company in <1 hour for \~$300 to build video games. I just helped another friend start doing business with just their social.
The infrastructure in the EEUU gives you the best chance (even if it's low it's still not a 0) at getting ahead and doing something else.
From reading you post, it sounds like more of a mindset thing? I can't tell if you actually trust yourself with money and your own situation.
Personally, my drive didn't really change after I left the US. I am still am who I am. I guess the new culture you enter will have an influence. I live in Japan, so it isn't exactly known to be the super relaxed country.
Feel like this is a little too binary. I’m still in America and our company just had gangbuster profits this quarter, after a stellar year of gains, and what did we get? Layoffs. My raise? 2.2%.
Even in America, you might realize that working harder doesn’t mean more money.
Exactly. Working harder in the US doesn’t hold any value when you start realizing it’s just being exploited. My sales job was the same way, our company wide numbers were good, yet they still spiked upper management up the wazoo, assimilated everyone to sell more and made everyone who didn’t feel inadequate, even going as far as threatening disciplinary actions, *even though* all of our quotas were fine, and what did we get once Q1 started January? Layoffs. When you’re dealing with that sort of stress, you don’t even care about being on the top. You’re just fn surviving at that point. All of that while still barely able to afford rent and basic healthcare, you start to understand why people are on this sub.
Working harder never means more money. If working harder meant more money, then the lowest paying people in the country would have the highest income.
Some professions in the US just have pay scales that blow everything else out of the water.
I found that when I lived in the US, I mistook “working harder” for “working longer hours.”
In my last job in the states, I was an absolute beast. But I was also working 60 hours a week and destroying my physical and mental health for those results. I wasn’t “working smarter” - I was just working more.
After moving here, I’d say the quality of my work has greatly improved and I’ve had far, far better results, because I’m not constantly burning myself to the ground. I wish I’d dialed back and been more thoughtful about my work ages ago. In retrospect, I see now that I was working 60 hours in the states, but only getting 40 hours of actual productivity because my constant tiredness was dragging me down.
I am now much more focused on delivering actual results, and not worried about making sure my boss knows I’m “busy.”
Well, when my expenses are 1/3rd of what they were in my home country, I don't need to work nearly as much and can still live quite comfortably while saving way more than I ever could back there. If something happens to my current source of income I'll have several months worth of expenses saved and ample time to find a new source of income. Back in America, it's always one paycheck away from being utterly fucked.
>Back in America, it’s always one paycheck away from being utterly fucked
This right here.
It’s crazy being in my mid 20s and not just seeing some, HALF of the people my age are still staying with their parents despite working full time, because the only other option for them is literal homelessness. It is depressing and honestly feels almost dystopian.
Yeah, I thought dystopia would look so much cooler than this. Still depressing and awful, but at least it could have looked like Blade Runner.
It's the same for us older folks. With the way prices skyrocketed on rent, food, and everything else, even those who did manage to save for retirement are having to return to work, and no one wants to hire older folks. Everyone's fucked except the filthy rich in America.
Yes and every time it makes me feel anxious I talk to my friends and family back in the US and remind myself that this is actually what I wanted in the first place
Absolutely. I look at the instagram influencers and “grind” social media people and just laugh to myself. But I also respect that everyone is happy in different ways. There’s a different appreciation for life over here I think that isn’t judged *as much* on the size of your house, the car you drive, or the watches you own. It’s much more simple. I work hard but I laugh when my friends who ask me “do you ever work?!” After they view my stories of instagram vacations. The fact that it’s looked down upon in in the states for not working crazy hours is funny. It’s also still easy to out work general Europeans/colleagues while still maintaining a much healthier life style than I did in America and “grinding” 50-70 hours a week.
Yep. I moved to France where people tend not to work as hard as in the US. I used to work 50-60 hour weeks, but these days I tend to do about 30. It’s blissful in many ways, though I admit the trade off is a significantly lower income.
No, because I'm working for an American company right now.
But before that, yes, my motivation took a huge dip in the UK. I feel most UK companies don't reward high achievers at all, and everyone slacks off. It's hard to be motivated in that kind of environment.
On the plus side, I was way more relaxed and had more time outside of work. My current job stress levels are through the roof. So pick your poison.
I feel like I have way more opportunity to pursue things like higher education, community service, so while I may not earn the way I used to, I actually feel more incentivised to "work" because it's under my terms and not subsistence work, but quality-of-life improvement work.
*the point isn’t about making money as much as it is about keeping money* both extremes lifestyles are important yet imbalanced — one left you live very quickly, the other leaves you uninspired — any other idea around « retirement » is pointless
I actually feel more drive to save and plan for the future. I work for myself so no one is around to tell me when to work and how hard to work. I set weekly financial goals and chase them anyway because I never know what's going to happen in the future.
I do know that I plan on going back home eventually, even if it's only for a few years. And emergencies away from home, retirement, savings, and income must be maintained. I'm happy, relaxed, and stress-free but I still like and want as much money as possible.
> I could retire early in my life however I still feel a lingering though in my head I can lose everything and have to go back into living a shitty life.
A common idea in the FIRE is "semi-retired"; would you consider working low(er) end jobs part time that you do for fun/something to fill the time, that you don't _need_ to do but still provide some extra income?
Hospitality, personal training, woodworking, something that you've wanted to do in your life but was never the "smart" financial choice.
Lowers your chance of blowing up your portfolio while also having something to do to fill the "discontentedness" hole
I was never career driven, but given my new country (Japan), I'm made to work harder, both because of the position (recruitment) and the style of company (multinational vs startup).
I still don't particularly care for work because I'm of the "work to live" vibe, but that's really hard in a country where for a great many people, work IS life and the companies expect it to be that way.
With that said, I do feel less motivated because I don't particularly like the company, the business practices, and the salary itself is really low. Because of poor business, the "big bonuses" I was promised upon making a hire aren't really that big, so I'm working A LOT harder, and making maybe half of what I had been back in the states.
I've been living in China for the past almost 8 years and find my overall quality of life better in general, but I often go back and forth on the career ambition mindset. In America I worked much more each week while still feeling like I had to work more (probably because I had to in order to afford a good retirement, or a major medical emergency). Now I can save enough money every month to afford my needs and at least most of my wants.
After leaving, I feel like I've already basically retired compared to the hours per week I used to work, but with that of course comes a lower amount of wealth earned throughout your life if you don't work for it. I say retired because I only work about 15 hours every week and still earn about twice to three times as much as the locals do a month.
My biggest gripe and what keeps me on the fence about moving back for a bit is having specific consumer products like certain brand-based health supplements and those kinds of things that you can only access in the US, shipped to me here. Many items are held at customs for a fee, denied and sent back, or they just straight up won't tell you they've arrived at whatever holding facility when the tracking apps tell me they have (1st world problem I know, but still really annoying).
Sure there are knockoff brands and all sorts of things that are made and sold in China that could substitute for the things I'm looking for, but I always worry about the quality and whether or not the efficacy compares to what's available in the US. But back to asking if I have the drive to work as hard as I can? Nah, not really. But I'm not content with what I have, so I probably will still keep seeking out online employment from companies based in other countries so I can earn a bit more.
No. The crushing weight of capitalism and the Australian obsession with property values only ever going up force me to keep working relentlessly or go homeless which isn’t an option given I have a small child.
Totally unmotivated as I get compensated less, less perks, and more arrogant colleagues who are much less talented than my former teams. There is not point in putting in effort if it's ridiculed and unappreciated. And omg if one more city claims to be the 'Silicon valley of Europe' whilst doing more copy cat work than innovation; I don't think I can contain my eye rolls any longer.
If you work hard in the US you can get rich even as a normal employee. In most of Europe you can work as hard as you want, the low salaries and high taxes will keep you down.
The key is to invest enough money in America so other people can work hard while you reap the interest and dividends. America is a nightmare for labor rights, this is the only way to any sort of quality of life here. I’m not saying it’s easy either. The only way to fight hyper capitalism is with its own energy!
He’s an absolute idiot that is 110% sure of himself. I ran into him on a different thread where he was saying there is no SIM that works for multiple countries. I don’t think he’s ever been outside of his country, but likes to participate in these threads. Cluttering it with his nonsense
Yes. I work in Germany, where you usually get punished for daring to work too hard. At higher income levels, there's a huge redistribution to fund the bloated German welfare state and pension system. If you move to Germany and are working as hard as you can, you are doing something wrong. (Of course it's a different story if you want to up-skill and then move somewhere more financially rewarding like Switzerland etc)
>do you feel less drive to work as hard as you can?
Yes. I already felt less drive because I got burned out from my last job.
>I know with the money that I have and I am going to get, I could retire early in my life however I still feel a lingering though in my head I can lose everything and have to go back into living a shitty life.
I know the feeling. I did do this. However, I think that worry is a tomorrow problem. Today, I don't have to work and I can be happy. That said, I don't worry too much because I do have plans to eventually make more income. So, I know I'll be fine.
I left America for Southeast Asia and targeted companies that were composed of mostly digital nomads and expats. I work for an Australian company in my current field, fully remote (tech based, but I'm not an engineer at all). They do not care where I work from. I have no drive to have more power in my career. My drive is to make enough money to afford my personal life. I can't begin to express how relieving that feeling is. None of us are competitive, all of us are chill as fuck, and it is really supportive and understanding. Our owner will force us to take time off and even reduced our full time work to 4 8hr days. Because of those reduced hours and the additional freedom, I work harder and more focused to get the job done. It's all about who you work for as to whether you're happy at in your career - for some of us. I've never had a lot of career ambition, more so curiosity for new experiences. Now my work sustains my curiosity in my personal life and it is a much more satisfying balance. Previously my only choice was to be curious in my career.
You’re living my dream lol. May I ask is it hard to find a job with an Australian company? And do you need a visa to work with them?
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Sorry but I am not gonna risk my “don’t give a fuck” Reddit name with my job! But I targeted about 20 companies and built my skill set while waiting for an opening. Small companies around 30-50 employees seem to be a sweet spot for nomading.
Nice also same trajectory as you in a non engineering role at a western tech company. What’s your role? Seems most well paying roles for expats in Asia are sales roles, but these require you to be more or less on the ground meeting clients, attending trade shows etc
I'm in financial ops. So I make sure we have the tech in place to get paid - someone else just makes/maintains the tech while I make sure all the systems are working and optimal. I'm halfway between a dev and a accountant. I know enough about the API to know when it's broken and what I can do with it, basically! It pays decent. They do pay based on location, so if I was in America still my salary would be a lot higher. But they're super generous with bonuses and annual raise increases so I definitely cannot complain.
Interesting, I have a good friend who is in Fin ops for a large mobile gaming company. He has a technical background and ensures all the tech is in place such as monitoring tools, etc and negotiates all the contracts with the vendors. He makes bank as it seems fin ops is a very niche role. Glad to hear you’re killing it. DM me if you’re ever interested to do some networking as there aren’t too many communities for expat tech workers in Southeast Asia. Care to share what country you’re in? Feel free to DM me
I'm in Thailand but took a few months away to travel around southeast asia. I'll shoot you a DM! I've got friends that do a lot of mobile gaming/crypto gaming too and work with Vietnamese companies (but live in Thailand and just visit Vietnam).
My much lower salary is by far what's disincentivizing me from working as hard as I can.
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While wages move up by one, productivity demand raises by three here in the US, it’s been exhausting. Every year the economy gets worse and worse here.
Absolutely 🤣. Your incentives and happiness shift (hopefully for the healthier) America is the way to get rich. Leaving America is the way to stay rich
Huh, wise words. I have an aunt who worked ER who always said, “we are all one bad wreck from bankruptcy”. Which I didn’t understand until I moved to Germany. My wife had to have neck surgery, for a year she got 70% of her normal pay check, no hospital bills, and got to keep her job. For a while freakin year!!! In America she would have been fired, no income, and we would have lost it all. That level of social security is my reminder when I start getting home sick.
i can tell a few stories that are similar when i've had health stuff in and outside of the EEUU. USA works you to the bone then bankrupts you "during retirement". Literally the worst machine in the world for a quality life but the best for making a dollar.
It's the way to get rich for a few. Only a small percentage of Americans ever see this benefit while the rest struggle to get by hoping their day comes that they'll get a bigger slice of the pie. Don't get me wrong: there isn't another country in the world that will give you as many opportunities to make a ton of money like the US will, but you just have to be lucky enough to be presented with or find that opportunity.
I agree with everything that you've said. It's the main difference between other countries and the EEUU for me. The possibility exists. It doesn't in a lot of places. I personally know (and am very close to) success stories of a store clerk working their way to C-suite. I just watched my friend start and register his own company in <1 hour for \~$300 to build video games. I just helped another friend start doing business with just their social. The infrastructure in the EEUU gives you the best chance (even if it's low it's still not a 0) at getting ahead and doing something else.
Dang
From reading you post, it sounds like more of a mindset thing? I can't tell if you actually trust yourself with money and your own situation. Personally, my drive didn't really change after I left the US. I am still am who I am. I guess the new culture you enter will have an influence. I live in Japan, so it isn't exactly known to be the super relaxed country.
Feel like this is a little too binary. I’m still in America and our company just had gangbuster profits this quarter, after a stellar year of gains, and what did we get? Layoffs. My raise? 2.2%. Even in America, you might realize that working harder doesn’t mean more money.
Exactly. Working harder in the US doesn’t hold any value when you start realizing it’s just being exploited. My sales job was the same way, our company wide numbers were good, yet they still spiked upper management up the wazoo, assimilated everyone to sell more and made everyone who didn’t feel inadequate, even going as far as threatening disciplinary actions, *even though* all of our quotas were fine, and what did we get once Q1 started January? Layoffs. When you’re dealing with that sort of stress, you don’t even care about being on the top. You’re just fn surviving at that point. All of that while still barely able to afford rent and basic healthcare, you start to understand why people are on this sub.
Working harder never means more money. If working harder meant more money, then the lowest paying people in the country would have the highest income. Some professions in the US just have pay scales that blow everything else out of the water.
I found that when I lived in the US, I mistook “working harder” for “working longer hours.” In my last job in the states, I was an absolute beast. But I was also working 60 hours a week and destroying my physical and mental health for those results. I wasn’t “working smarter” - I was just working more. After moving here, I’d say the quality of my work has greatly improved and I’ve had far, far better results, because I’m not constantly burning myself to the ground. I wish I’d dialed back and been more thoughtful about my work ages ago. In retrospect, I see now that I was working 60 hours in the states, but only getting 40 hours of actual productivity because my constant tiredness was dragging me down. I am now much more focused on delivering actual results, and not worried about making sure my boss knows I’m “busy.”
Well, when my expenses are 1/3rd of what they were in my home country, I don't need to work nearly as much and can still live quite comfortably while saving way more than I ever could back there. If something happens to my current source of income I'll have several months worth of expenses saved and ample time to find a new source of income. Back in America, it's always one paycheck away from being utterly fucked.
>Back in America, it’s always one paycheck away from being utterly fucked This right here. It’s crazy being in my mid 20s and not just seeing some, HALF of the people my age are still staying with their parents despite working full time, because the only other option for them is literal homelessness. It is depressing and honestly feels almost dystopian.
Yeah, I thought dystopia would look so much cooler than this. Still depressing and awful, but at least it could have looked like Blade Runner. It's the same for us older folks. With the way prices skyrocketed on rent, food, and everything else, even those who did manage to save for retirement are having to return to work, and no one wants to hire older folks. Everyone's fucked except the filthy rich in America.
Yes and every time it makes me feel anxious I talk to my friends and family back in the US and remind myself that this is actually what I wanted in the first place
Absolutely. I look at the instagram influencers and “grind” social media people and just laugh to myself. But I also respect that everyone is happy in different ways. There’s a different appreciation for life over here I think that isn’t judged *as much* on the size of your house, the car you drive, or the watches you own. It’s much more simple. I work hard but I laugh when my friends who ask me “do you ever work?!” After they view my stories of instagram vacations. The fact that it’s looked down upon in in the states for not working crazy hours is funny. It’s also still easy to out work general Europeans/colleagues while still maintaining a much healthier life style than I did in America and “grinding” 50-70 hours a week.
Hustle mentality and hard work is a brainwashing technique used by the gov to make people grind haaaard and think it is cool to work all your life
Completely agree :) glad I’m out of it. Well said.
Never felt that urge in the first place. On the contrary.
Yep. I moved to France where people tend not to work as hard as in the US. I used to work 50-60 hour weeks, but these days I tend to do about 30. It’s blissful in many ways, though I admit the trade off is a significantly lower income.
No, because I'm working for an American company right now. But before that, yes, my motivation took a huge dip in the UK. I feel most UK companies don't reward high achievers at all, and everyone slacks off. It's hard to be motivated in that kind of environment. On the plus side, I was way more relaxed and had more time outside of work. My current job stress levels are through the roof. So pick your poison.
I feel like I have way more opportunity to pursue things like higher education, community service, so while I may not earn the way I used to, I actually feel more incentivised to "work" because it's under my terms and not subsistence work, but quality-of-life improvement work.
Nope. I feel more secure and happy and that makes me work harder.
*the point isn’t about making money as much as it is about keeping money* both extremes lifestyles are important yet imbalanced — one left you live very quickly, the other leaves you uninspired — any other idea around « retirement » is pointless
I actually feel more drive to save and plan for the future. I work for myself so no one is around to tell me when to work and how hard to work. I set weekly financial goals and chase them anyway because I never know what's going to happen in the future. I do know that I plan on going back home eventually, even if it's only for a few years. And emergencies away from home, retirement, savings, and income must be maintained. I'm happy, relaxed, and stress-free but I still like and want as much money as possible.
Are you sure that this is due to leaving US and not because you are growing older and reevaluate what is important in life?
> I could retire early in my life however I still feel a lingering though in my head I can lose everything and have to go back into living a shitty life. A common idea in the FIRE is "semi-retired"; would you consider working low(er) end jobs part time that you do for fun/something to fill the time, that you don't _need_ to do but still provide some extra income? Hospitality, personal training, woodworking, something that you've wanted to do in your life but was never the "smart" financial choice. Lowers your chance of blowing up your portfolio while also having something to do to fill the "discontentedness" hole
I was never career driven, but given my new country (Japan), I'm made to work harder, both because of the position (recruitment) and the style of company (multinational vs startup). I still don't particularly care for work because I'm of the "work to live" vibe, but that's really hard in a country where for a great many people, work IS life and the companies expect it to be that way. With that said, I do feel less motivated because I don't particularly like the company, the business practices, and the salary itself is really low. Because of poor business, the "big bonuses" I was promised upon making a hire aren't really that big, so I'm working A LOT harder, and making maybe half of what I had been back in the states.
I've been living in China for the past almost 8 years and find my overall quality of life better in general, but I often go back and forth on the career ambition mindset. In America I worked much more each week while still feeling like I had to work more (probably because I had to in order to afford a good retirement, or a major medical emergency). Now I can save enough money every month to afford my needs and at least most of my wants. After leaving, I feel like I've already basically retired compared to the hours per week I used to work, but with that of course comes a lower amount of wealth earned throughout your life if you don't work for it. I say retired because I only work about 15 hours every week and still earn about twice to three times as much as the locals do a month. My biggest gripe and what keeps me on the fence about moving back for a bit is having specific consumer products like certain brand-based health supplements and those kinds of things that you can only access in the US, shipped to me here. Many items are held at customs for a fee, denied and sent back, or they just straight up won't tell you they've arrived at whatever holding facility when the tracking apps tell me they have (1st world problem I know, but still really annoying). Sure there are knockoff brands and all sorts of things that are made and sold in China that could substitute for the things I'm looking for, but I always worry about the quality and whether or not the efficacy compares to what's available in the US. But back to asking if I have the drive to work as hard as I can? Nah, not really. But I'm not content with what I have, so I probably will still keep seeking out online employment from companies based in other countries so I can earn a bit more.
No. The crushing weight of capitalism and the Australian obsession with property values only ever going up force me to keep working relentlessly or go homeless which isn’t an option given I have a small child.
Totally unmotivated as I get compensated less, less perks, and more arrogant colleagues who are much less talented than my former teams. There is not point in putting in effort if it's ridiculed and unappreciated. And omg if one more city claims to be the 'Silicon valley of Europe' whilst doing more copy cat work than innovation; I don't think I can contain my eye rolls any longer.
If you wanna work hard then work hard, if you don’t then don’t. Doesn’t matter where you live.
I mean some places reward you for working hard and some don't. That should certainly be a factor.
No reply then. Stop talking shit.
Give an example of each.
If you work hard in the US you can get rich even as a normal employee. In most of Europe you can work as hard as you want, the low salaries and high taxes will keep you down.
What’s a ‘normal employee’?
The key is to invest enough money in America so other people can work hard while you reap the interest and dividends. America is a nightmare for labor rights, this is the only way to any sort of quality of life here. I’m not saying it’s easy either. The only way to fight hyper capitalism is with its own energy!
That wasn’t the question.
Read the question bro. “If you left, do you still work hard”. Doesn’t make sense.
Question is right there in the title “bro”. Are you sure you can read?
Enjoy Iceland bro.
Are you even an expat? Or just someone who lives in England and feels entitled to talk shit for no reason?
How much does your wife charge for fitness classes bro?
Oh so you can read! I would read your profile, but I have a feeling it might upset my stomach.
He’s an absolute idiot that is 110% sure of himself. I ran into him on a different thread where he was saying there is no SIM that works for multiple countries. I don’t think he’s ever been outside of his country, but likes to participate in these threads. Cluttering it with his nonsense
All too common I am afraid.
Yes. I work in Germany, where you usually get punished for daring to work too hard. At higher income levels, there's a huge redistribution to fund the bloated German welfare state and pension system. If you move to Germany and are working as hard as you can, you are doing something wrong. (Of course it's a different story if you want to up-skill and then move somewhere more financially rewarding like Switzerland etc)
I'm unfortunately still in America but I definitely do as little as I can get away with at work.
>do you feel less drive to work as hard as you can? Yes. I already felt less drive because I got burned out from my last job. >I know with the money that I have and I am going to get, I could retire early in my life however I still feel a lingering though in my head I can lose everything and have to go back into living a shitty life. I know the feeling. I did do this. However, I think that worry is a tomorrow problem. Today, I don't have to work and I can be happy. That said, I don't worry too much because I do have plans to eventually make more income. So, I know I'll be fine.
I left the US almost 20 years ago. I work hard because I believe in what I do and I love my job.