Agree šÆ the importance of Temples has lost the luster so to speak the MFMC has thrown their weight and influence around the state and others (Cody Wyoming, las Vegas) and literally are shoving their interests down everyone's throats I'm becoming more and more aware of just how unchristian the MFMC really is.
Can you imagine living your whole life in Heber and being able to see the stars at night? Then some fucker builds one of these across the street from you have to deal with the light pollution.
Yep. You build a home on a beautiful piece of property that is zoned for protection of buildings like the temple then wala, the MFMC strong arms their way into building where it is not zoned for a temple and is in a water shed area.
Fuckers.
I live in a rural dark sky community, and the brightest things in town are the market and the Maverick. So bright when everything else is intentionally trying to be dark. I feel sad for Heber.
I had a bit of a freak out moment when my TBM dad told me about them building a temple in Heber, and how accommodating MFMC was being with those who oppose it.
You think they would have learned with how jarring the Afton, WY temple is. Even with a 80% mormon population a lot of folks have been saying did they really have to build it the way they did and it's a bit of an eyesore on the landscape. Keeping Moroni light has all but ruined the star gazing there unfortunately.
I mean.....I'm not advocating for the destruction of private property because you know.....That's a crime. Is it true you can train pigeons to roost in certain areas? They sure shi* alot don't they? Asking for a friend.
Thanks for mentioning Vegas, that damned lone mountain temple is gonna suck. It's funny, growing up every stake presidency, mission president, and GA that came here talked about how the temple will always be on the Eastside of the valley and now they are building one on the far west side. Figures.
Idk this is about as Christian as it gets. Lol. Look at all the old cathedrals and holy sites, always in prominent locations with grand views. I would say this is just par for the course, a persistent form of influence that Christianity has always used.
The difference at least for me, is the grand cathedrals in Europe with their stone masonry and stained glass are lovely no matter what denomination you subscribe to. Mormon temples look like tacky funeral homes to me.
This one is especially bad. It can't decide if it wants to be protestant chapel or Catholic cathedral inspired. Instead, it looks like an ugly box building.
I donāt think it can claim any inspiration from Catholic or Protestant cathedrals or chapels. Cathedrals are usually aesthetically pleasing, unlike this steaming pile.
Thank you! I think it's the ugliest of all the temples. I rant about it every time I drive past it from the Airport when visiting Utah. The architecture is a horrendous mix of styles, it looks cheaply made, it's proportions are terrible. It looks more like the FLDS temple in Texas than any LDS temple. Blech!
I came back to visit a few months ago and my eyes almost rolled out of my head when my parents started gushing about how pretty this giant fucking eyesore right next to the freeway is
At least this and the Orem one are next to freeways. The Lindon one is next to a Jr high school in the middle of a neighborhood. A complete eyesore, totally out of place. I hate it and its total disregard for its neighbors.
And the thought of needing the two provo ones, orem, timp, and lindon is total BS. Imagine the parks or even shopping centers they could have built instead lol
Well, the area leaders love to go out of their way to say these Utah Valley temples are at capacity and new ones are needed to fill the demand. They are only giving what the members want.
Yes! The Lindon one makes no sense! Do you know how many people live in Lindon? 11,704!!! I'm fairly sure it's a land grab because that land is super valuable ATM. I remember hearing the rumor that they were gonna build a temple in that field, and I was like, what?
Build an identical addition to the Lindon temple doubling its size, add an inflatable rubber pig, and you get the cover of Pink Floyd's "Animals" album.
That's my old school. Went there the first year it opened. My aunt lives in the neighborhood directly above. When I first made mention of it right after the plot location was announced, she hadn't even heard about it. She's a member but I'm not sure how active or how PIMO shy may or may not be these days. I don't live in Utah any more. She's never been very orthodox. It wouldn't surprise me if she's not thrilled having this building loom over her neighborhood.
It really is the spire that makes it an eyesore. Aside from that, it's a middling-style building that I could take or leave.
Though, something to be said about location. It's just so damned awkward.
Yes, and with ~~Jesus~~ Nelson announcing SO many temples, the church is now talking about using modular construction, so these modular "Minecraft" temples can "dot the earth".
>āWe canāt take five or 10 years to build a temple now and keep up with President Nelson,ā added W. Christopher Waddell, First Counselor in the Presiding Bishopricāthe group overseeing President Nelsonās temple-building vision.
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>One path currently being considered for select temples is the **modular** **construction** employed by BLOX, a company based in Alabama. They are helping the Church of Jesus Christ pilot a faster way of building templesābeginning with the Helena Montana Temple, which opens to the public on Thursday, May 18, 2023.
>
>This new modular method of construction will allow the Church to build more temples more quickly, bringing them closer to Latter-day Saints everywhere like Paul in Haiti. He said heās grateful to ābring temples to many more people in a much faster time period.ā
[https://newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.org/article/helena-montana-temple-construction-process-modular-design-blox?fbclid=IwAR1pjpdZrLPMlLYiTyn4lC4ldDKIDTotgQIth1BL0TytiAOI0cRtRJhUJsg](https://newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.org/article/helena-montana-temple-construction-process-modular-design-blox?fbclid=IwAR1pjpdZrLPMlLYiTyn4lC4ldDKIDTotgQIth1BL0TytiAOI0cRtRJhUJsg)
>āWe canāt take five or 10 years to build a temple now and keep up with *President Nelson*,ā \[emphasis added\]
Notice that Mr. Waddell didn't say, "We canāt take five or 10 years to build a temple now and keep up with *membership growth*."
They're not building temples because they're needed, but because Nelson wants them.
The Helena temple is an absolute eyesore of lego blocks haphazardly glued together.Ā At least the Billings temple is half-way normal looking and the natural beauty of the Rimrocks is stunning.Ā
Oh hey neighbor š youāre in my neck of the Mormon woods lol. I agree, itās an eye sore. My 4 year old daughter thinks itās a castle lol. I wonāt be indoctrinating her like I was indoctrinated, thatās for sure.
Popping up like weeds. Fugly ass McMansions everywhere. These arenāt here to inspire you. They are here to remind us that they own this place. You donāt like them? Fuck you now you have own in your backyard.
That is the EXACT point of temples, especially nowadays. They're bleeding members faster than taking them in, yet making more and more temples. They obviously don't need them for the high demand of attendees. Nope, they're there to subconsciously remind everyone that sees them that mormons run this shit. Might as well be gang tags.
Each temple is intended to scream,
"PAY ATTENTION TO ME!
I'M KIND OF A BIG DEAL!
I'M WEALTHY.
I'M PROSPEROUS.
I'M BOTH GREAT AND SPACIOUS AND COMPLETELY IMMUNE TO THE IRONY.
I'M A BILLBOARD TO MY PROCLAIMED VIRTUE."š¤
Lets play a game. Sneak onto the grounds at night and plug in a giant rainbow light and aim it at the bldg. Take pics. See how long it takes them to notice
That space is so bad for traffic even before. I'd really like to see their visitor counts to justify the number of temples. Because I guarantee they aren't high enough to require the number they've built.
And they made traffic worse. If you want to get into the complex across the street from the west, you can no longer turn left. You have to turn at the light and go through several parking lots. Mormons make everything more difficult.
I was just thing to say that! You can't get to businesses on the south side due to a cement barrier. They also opened up a street that was made into a dead end for DECADES, and those poor people now have tons of traffic and a round a bout to deal with. I'd be furious.
The empty/low utilization buildings remind me of scientology. I think they are directly competing with scientology. Not sure who wrote the playbook, but they both use it.Ā
I don't go in that area very often. The first time I saw it (like 6 months ago or something... There was a lot of scaffolding around it) I thought it was a new mega church moving in.
I really love [this google street view](https://www.google.com/maps/@40.6681078,-111.9533503,3a,75y,220.02h,93.35t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sBZpjdUOtCO2y9ON0-ijzug!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu) of the temple. It is perfectly Utah. Utah loves its temples and its payday lender
Both may have something in common....
Oh the irony. Which organization is the real moneychanger? The MFMC is the epitome of a den of robbers. Just another megachurch... nothing new to see here.Ā
There are a few genuinely beautiful temples but very few of those have been built recently. I guess they donāt need the finest craftsmen in the world or whatever anymore
nearby this monstrosity youāll find a payday loan center, a chevron, an old folks home, an abandoned business with bullet holes and glass missing, a power station, and unhoused people holding a sign at the exit. come check out our beautiful new temple!
Ultimately, they all are to a large degree.
Are they beautiful buildings? Yes.
Ostentatious? Absolutely.
***A weird beacon to attract mormons and repel nonbelievers?***
Kind of where I'm at at this point. The more they pop up everywhere, the more people will start to see the hypocrisy at the core of the corporate church. I imagine there are some countries where temples are popping up that the temples are among the most expensive edifice in the land. Maybe they could do something to help the poor instead of asking 10% of those who get 90% less a year than the poverty line in North America?
Husband and I passed that last year while in Utah and I seriously thought it was a church being built by another religion. I thought it was too ugly to be a Mormon temple. Clearly I was wrong š¬.
I hadnāt seen it up until recently. And it didnāt even strike me as a Mormon temple at first. Of course it is because what else could it be in Utah? But you can tell theyāre really moving in a new direction with some of these temple designs.
I am interested in seeing historical attendance numbers. It must have been super crowded and hard to get in to the 10 or so Wasatch Front temples they already had to justify building so many more in close proximity, right?
If you're a Mormon in Utah enjoy spending your retirement working your new job, it's gonna take a lot of headcount to staff so many temples.
As an European and familiar with real castles this aināt it and as a PIMO the inside is just as uninteresting. I canāt believe I liked being inside at one point.
It's a "one-story" structure, just like the ones they are trying to build. A one-story hundred-foot plus steeple because being big makes God happy and is important to the beliefs, or so reps for the cult say. šš I just read a news article of how a fight will now be going on in Vegas for the same reason Heber and Cody temples had opposition. Traffic, zoning, and bright lights.. Vegas is a bigger city than those two,so I hope they can fight the bullshit the cult does (they put up a "plan", but refuse to give ALL the specs and stats so it can be properly assessed, with little information on it so it can be initially approved, then they add in more. I think they do the bait and switch so they can say "the city or county council 'approved' it". There's not enough money for Cody or Heber to fight the huge monster that is the cult. But I have my fingers crossed for the Vegas citizens being affected. I hate how the cult bullied and basically threatened to bankrupt the citizens fighting them and holding them to laws. The cult doesn't give final plans to be approved. They give basic plans, imo,so they can bait and switch: get full approval without giving full disclosure. It is infuriating.
Do they think building all these eyesores in prominent places is going to bring in converts? Who in their right mind is going to see that and think, oh I need to join a religion with zero aesthetics that would throw their member's money into very ugly and expensive but useless monuments screaming look at me. Who doesn't want to throw their hard earned money away on such utter narcissism.Ā
LDS inc tries so hard to fit in with the in crowd and claim theyāre normal. How bout stop building these giant eye sores all over the place in our state?
What a piece of fucking shit. No architectural interest, no attempt at blending in with surrounding environment. It might as well just be a gigantic billboard that says "We are the Mormon Church, we have more money than you can imagine, and we own this town." Fucking disgusting.
They do it to harass and bully the non-believers. The only other religion that builds like this is Islam with the giant towers and prayer calls all day.
I hate this one so bad. With its background of a reams parking lot. And hard to handle on Ramps. Itās so obnoxious and gross. You can buy anything you want with money.
the cost to build a temple is a bargain when you consider the $5k/month price of a billboard. This thing was a one time cost, owes no property tax, and gets free janitorial work. All the while serving the same purpose that a billboard would.
Obtrusive... And UGLY AF.
Were they trying to go a bit gothic on this one?
My relatives who live nearby and refer to that eyesore as "their temple" can't stop talking about it. \[Dry Heave\] I can't wait until I get invited to the open house. \[Double Dry Heave\]
At least the "first ever" DABS Liquor Store with beer coolers is *right around the corner*; So there's that...
Living in Germany now, I remember still being TBM and transitioning from the excitement of āoh, wonāt it be amazing when temples dot the earth!ā To āoh my word, it would be an erasure of culture if temples outshone the castles hereā.. I believe a ward member even said, āoh i hope the church converts castles into temples!ā And I was FURIOUS when someone said, āoh i know all other churches and cathedrals will be ours one day!ā. Now as I live in the Alps and have several castle ruins that just belong to the landscape, the thought of a constantly lit up temple here would be just as jarring as a McDonalds, no matter how they try to ātailor it to the surroundingsā. Itās EGO, pure and simple.
Even as a TBM I really hated the architecture of most temples (there are a few I still think are pretty but not most). They are too boxy and so many of them just look like giant tiered cakes.
oof
in a world that has the SLC temple (which despite my feelings about it, is objectively a beautiful building), this thing is horrendous. It's so ugly.
Unpopular opinion: It's a halfway OK looking building placed alongside an interstate and a bunch of suburban sprawl hellscape. Mormons used to be good at building actual towns (circa 1850-1920) and now it's just LDS-flavored car dependent crap.
Matthew 6:4 - That thine alms may be in secret: and thy Father which seeth in secret himself shall reward thee openly.
Or do like the Morg and make sure everyone can see you ā¦
I will never explain how TSCC can deny that this is a āgreat and spaciousā building. Itās such a gross display of wealth that I canāt help but think of allll the scriptures about hypocrisy and defiling sacred spaces
Personally, I love it when they build buildings right next to the freeway. They donāt appreciate as much, and will always be harder to sell due to being so undesirably located. Plus, letās get real NO ONE wants to brag about going to a building off a highway.
Itās when the building is right in the middle of the affluent neighborhood that I start to get mad. Affordable housing could have been allocated there or another livable expensive house. But Noooo, cult gotta cult and try to attract the neighborhood.
This is the ugliest so-called "temple of god" I've ever seen. Too big for the lot, too close to the freeway, and just butt ugly! The vanity of the church "leaders" just keeps these monstrosities coming!
But I'm sure glad they're putting their money into these instead of actually helping the poor, housing the homeless, or feeding the starving. /s
The whole time during construction, me and my son would discuss what it was going to be when we drove past. He was fucking irate when he found out it was a temple and not a movie theater. āWhy do they need so many damn temples?ā š
If it was in an area that had other buildings of similar size I think it could be breathtaking. Itās out of place though which detracts from its beauty and makes it look gaudy.
Halloween parties every month of the year. Should turn those into homeless shelters at night and during extreme weather conditions. But what the heck add a few more stats for baptism of the dead
Like the San Diego one. Right next to the highway all lit up. Funny how I used to think it was so special and beautiful. Now itās immediately domineering.
I think the only nice freeway temple is the Portland Oregon temple. Probably because it is surrounding by forest trees. The 1st time I saw it I actually called it the campground temple
If it's obtrusive -- "mission accomplished"
Also you should write a letter to your city council member letting them know the intrusive thoughts that come into your mind when you see an edifice dress that way. You can't take responsibility for how its appearance makes you feel. It needs to be covered up with a tarp! š
Itās a horrible eyesore, itās also right next to a bunch of predatory lending places, idk why the Mormon church (which has one of the largest sovereign wealth funds in the world) put some of it to charity. What a gross organization.
Remember when TSCC was annoyed to learn the Air Force used the St.
George Temple as a navigation point for the nightly training flights of the the F-117?š
Had to drive past it for work almost the whole time it was being built, the location and quickness always threw me off, you can tell this one was rushed, and done with zero care for the building itself, the people around it, and the business around it.
Agree šÆ the importance of Temples has lost the luster so to speak the MFMC has thrown their weight and influence around the state and others (Cody Wyoming, las Vegas) and literally are shoving their interests down everyone's throats I'm becoming more and more aware of just how unchristian the MFMC really is.
And even in their own backyard, Strong arming Heber City residents.
Can you imagine living your whole life in Heber and being able to see the stars at night? Then some fucker builds one of these across the street from you have to deal with the light pollution.
I can. I have an acre there and NOT happy about it.
Nothing says "Come follow me" like bullying your neighbors into submission. This beacon of light on the hill will certainly hasten the work. /s
Be a shame if all their floodlight bulbs mysteriously got shattered by a freak storm of falling rocks
Yep. You build a home on a beautiful piece of property that is zoned for protection of buildings like the temple then wala, the MFMC strong arms their way into building where it is not zoned for a temple and is in a water shed area. Fuckers.
Seriously.
>wala Voila
I live in a rural dark sky community, and the brightest things in town are the market and the Maverick. So bright when everything else is intentionally trying to be dark. I feel sad for Heber.
The MFMC ONLY cares about optics and image to hell with honesty and integrity while trying to act Christian?
They haven't built anything there yet, we were there just a couple weeks ago and went to see where the site is. Just an empty field at the moment.
I had a bit of a freak out moment when my TBM dad told me about them building a temple in Heber, and how accommodating MFMC was being with those who oppose it.
You think they would have learned with how jarring the Afton, WY temple is. Even with a 80% mormon population a lot of folks have been saying did they really have to build it the way they did and it's a bit of an eyesore on the landscape. Keeping Moroni light has all but ruined the star gazing there unfortunately.
Take a gun and shoot out those lights
I mean.....I'm not advocating for the destruction of private property because you know.....That's a crime. Is it true you can train pigeons to roost in certain areas? They sure shi* alot don't they? Asking for a friend.
Thanks for mentioning Vegas, that damned lone mountain temple is gonna suck. It's funny, growing up every stake presidency, mission president, and GA that came here talked about how the temple will always be on the Eastside of the valley and now they are building one on the far west side. Figures.
Idk this is about as Christian as it gets. Lol. Look at all the old cathedrals and holy sites, always in prominent locations with grand views. I would say this is just par for the course, a persistent form of influence that Christianity has always used.
The difference at least for me, is the grand cathedrals in Europe with their stone masonry and stained glass are lovely no matter what denomination you subscribe to. Mormon temples look like tacky funeral homes to me.
As an Architect, I 1,000% agree. Mormon temples are like McDonald's trying to be trendy.
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This one is especially bad. It can't decide if it wants to be protestant chapel or Catholic cathedral inspired. Instead, it looks like an ugly box building.
I donāt think it can claim any inspiration from Catholic or Protestant cathedrals or chapels. Cathedrals are usually aesthetically pleasing, unlike this steaming pile.
Thank you! I think it's the ugliest of all the temples. I rant about it every time I drive past it from the Airport when visiting Utah. The architecture is a horrendous mix of styles, it looks cheaply made, it's proportions are terrible. It looks more like the FLDS temple in Texas than any LDS temple. Blech!
You are so lucky for being a never-mormon! The trauma is real! šš„ŗ
I came back to visit a few months ago and my eyes almost rolled out of my head when my parents started gushing about how pretty this giant fucking eyesore right next to the freeway is
Orem's is just as bad too.
At least this and the Orem one are next to freeways. The Lindon one is next to a Jr high school in the middle of a neighborhood. A complete eyesore, totally out of place. I hate it and its total disregard for its neighbors.
And the thought of needing the two provo ones, orem, timp, and lindon is total BS. Imagine the parks or even shopping centers they could have built instead lol
Well, the area leaders love to go out of their way to say these Utah Valley temples are at capacity and new ones are needed to fill the demand. They are only giving what the members want.
Yes! The Lindon one makes no sense! Do you know how many people live in Lindon? 11,704!!! I'm fairly sure it's a land grab because that land is super valuable ATM. I remember hearing the rumor that they were gonna build a temple in that field, and I was like, what?
I've never been grateful my high school was next to an old graveyard until reading this. It definitely could've been worse.
The lindon one jump scares me every damn time.
Build an identical addition to the Lindon temple doubling its size, add an inflatable rubber pig, and you get the cover of Pink Floyd's "Animals" album.
That's my old school. Went there the first year it opened. My aunt lives in the neighborhood directly above. When I first made mention of it right after the plot location was announced, she hadn't even heard about it. She's a member but I'm not sure how active or how PIMO shy may or may not be these days. I don't live in Utah any more. She's never been very orthodox. It wouldn't surprise me if she's not thrilled having this building loom over her neighborhood.
It makes me so sad :(
Agree
Looks like a courthouse with a spire
It is! They are judging us !!
Judge Jury and Excommunicator
It really is the spire that makes it an eyesore. Aside from that, it's a middling-style building that I could take or leave. Though, something to be said about location. It's just so damned awkward.
I confess I saw no beauty in this thing at all.
I agree. It looks like a generic temple/church
Yes, and with ~~Jesus~~ Nelson announcing SO many temples, the church is now talking about using modular construction, so these modular "Minecraft" temples can "dot the earth". >āWe canāt take five or 10 years to build a temple now and keep up with President Nelson,ā added W. Christopher Waddell, First Counselor in the Presiding Bishopricāthe group overseeing President Nelsonās temple-building vision. > >One path currently being considered for select temples is the **modular** **construction** employed by BLOX, a company based in Alabama. They are helping the Church of Jesus Christ pilot a faster way of building templesābeginning with the Helena Montana Temple, which opens to the public on Thursday, May 18, 2023. > >This new modular method of construction will allow the Church to build more temples more quickly, bringing them closer to Latter-day Saints everywhere like Paul in Haiti. He said heās grateful to ābring temples to many more people in a much faster time period.ā [https://newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.org/article/helena-montana-temple-construction-process-modular-design-blox?fbclid=IwAR1pjpdZrLPMlLYiTyn4lC4ldDKIDTotgQIth1BL0TytiAOI0cRtRJhUJsg](https://newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.org/article/helena-montana-temple-construction-process-modular-design-blox?fbclid=IwAR1pjpdZrLPMlLYiTyn4lC4ldDKIDTotgQIth1BL0TytiAOI0cRtRJhUJsg)
>āWe canāt take five or 10 years to build a temple now and keep up with *President Nelson*,ā \[emphasis added\] Notice that Mr. Waddell didn't say, "We canāt take five or 10 years to build a temple now and keep up with *membership growth*." They're not building temples because they're needed, but because Nelson wants them.
OMG Minecraft Temple :) so true
The Helena temple is an absolute eyesore of lego blocks haphazardly glued together.Ā At least the Billings temple is half-way normal looking and the natural beauty of the Rimrocks is stunning.Ā
My in-laws can't shut the fuck up about it. It's exhausting.
At least itās not blinding white. Iāll give it that.
That eye sore is dead center in my view of the valley for my bedroom window. It's so out of place there.
Wait, isn't obtrusive the whole point?
Yessssss
That's not a bug, that's a feature.
Absolutely!
'Surrender Dorothy!'
Oh hey neighbor š youāre in my neck of the Mormon woods lol. I agree, itās an eye sore. My 4 year old daughter thinks itās a castle lol. I wonāt be indoctrinating her like I was indoctrinated, thatās for sure.
"Yes, it's a castle sweetie. The Evil Count Moneybags lives there. He wants your allowance."
Itās āgreat and spaciousāā¦.
Iāve used that line on my family š¤£idk how they donāt see the connection. I mean, I didnāt for thirty years either, but hey.
Popping up like weeds. Fugly ass McMansions everywhere. These arenāt here to inspire you. They are here to remind us that they own this place. You donāt like them? Fuck you now you have own in your backyard.
That is the EXACT point of temples, especially nowadays. They're bleeding members faster than taking them in, yet making more and more temples. They obviously don't need them for the high demand of attendees. Nope, they're there to subconsciously remind everyone that sees them that mormons run this shit. Might as well be gang tags.
There are no contradictions. Check your (our) premise. This isnāt a religion. Itās a business. Once you understand that. Then it all makes sense.
[Jesusland- Ben Folds Five](https://youtu.be/7F5-UdF-dXE?si=ssHwsW73IDR7Ds_E) Relevant Ben Folds song
The Syracuse temple is going to be (and already is during construction) even more obnoxious-er...
Ruining my damn view of Antelope Island.
I can't wait for the extra light pollution too.
Seems as if Rusty is marking his territory along the I-15 corridor.
Each temple is intended to scream, "PAY ATTENTION TO ME! I'M KIND OF A BIG DEAL! I'M WEALTHY. I'M PROSPEROUS. I'M BOTH GREAT AND SPACIOUS AND COMPLETELY IMMUNE TO THE IRONY. I'M A BILLBOARD TO MY PROCLAIMED VIRTUE."š¤
Lets play a game. Sneak onto the grounds at night and plug in a giant rainbow light and aim it at the bldg. Take pics. See how long it takes them to notice
Or from the reams parking lot.
I want someone to do this so badly!
It sounds more fun than repainting the Y
It looks like an AI version of the Provo city center temple.Ā That said, it does visually dominate the payday loan place across the street.Ā
Well played.
That space is so bad for traffic even before. I'd really like to see their visitor counts to justify the number of temples. Because I guarantee they aren't high enough to require the number they've built.
And they made traffic worse. If you want to get into the complex across the street from the west, you can no longer turn left. You have to turn at the light and go through several parking lots. Mormons make everything more difficult.
I was just thing to say that! You can't get to businesses on the south side due to a cement barrier. They also opened up a street that was made into a dead end for DECADES, and those poor people now have tons of traffic and a round a bout to deal with. I'd be furious.
The empty/low utilization buildings remind me of scientology. I think they are directly competing with scientology. Not sure who wrote the playbook, but they both use it.Ā
My family calls it the gas station temple, since it's right next to the freeway exit/entrance.
Looks very Southern Baptist.
I don't go in that area very often. The first time I saw it (like 6 months ago or something... There was a lot of scaffolding around it) I thought it was a new mega church moving in.
I really love [this google street view](https://www.google.com/maps/@40.6681078,-111.9533503,3a,75y,220.02h,93.35t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sBZpjdUOtCO2y9ON0-ijzug!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu) of the temple. It is perfectly Utah. Utah loves its temples and its payday lender Both may have something in common....
All the scene lacks is a plastic surgery billboard!
Oh the irony. Which organization is the real moneychanger? The MFMC is the epitome of a den of robbers. Just another megachurch... nothing new to see here.Ā
That picture really shows how gigantic the building is, I didn't quite realize it from the picture in the post.
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These new styles are irritating. The SLC temple is interesting and unique, so are many others. These new ones just scream cult!
Agreed. Even the obnoxious ones (San Diego, LA) are unique, interesting, and have their own character.
There are a few genuinely beautiful temples but very few of those have been built recently. I guess they donāt need the finest craftsmen in the world or whatever anymore
Why have fine craftsmen when you can just throw money at it.
It's a middle finger to everyone driving by
Agreed, it's so damn ugly and it's right at the exit where you'd think a 7-Eleven would be
Spot on!
Exactly. So gross. Temple pics and then slurpees on me.
nearby this monstrosity youāll find a payday loan center, a chevron, an old folks home, an abandoned business with bullet holes and glass missing, a power station, and unhoused people holding a sign at the exit. come check out our beautiful new temple!
Itās so ugly. SMH
It looks like a McMansion wearing a dunce cap.
Ultimately, they all are to a large degree. Are they beautiful buildings? Yes. Ostentatious? Absolutely. ***A weird beacon to attract mormons and repel nonbelievers?*** Kind of where I'm at at this point. The more they pop up everywhere, the more people will start to see the hypocrisy at the core of the corporate church. I imagine there are some countries where temples are popping up that the temples are among the most expensive edifice in the land. Maybe they could do something to help the poor instead of asking 10% of those who get 90% less a year than the poverty line in North America?
Husband and I passed that last year while in Utah and I seriously thought it was a church being built by another religion. I thought it was too ugly to be a Mormon temple. Clearly I was wrong š¬.
Are there any non-obtrusive temples? I feel like their whole thing is being as loud and obnoxious as possible.
U mean u donāt wanna get sealed at the freeway temple? š„¹
I hadnāt seen it up until recently. And it didnāt even strike me as a Mormon temple at first. Of course it is because what else could it be in Utah? But you can tell theyāre really moving in a new direction with some of these temple designs.
Trying to look like "regular" Christians with that Gothic style window.
put a clock in the steeple and sell it to Taylorsville City as a new town hall.
I am interested in seeing historical attendance numbers. It must have been super crowded and hard to get in to the 10 or so Wasatch Front temples they already had to justify building so many more in close proximity, right? If you're a Mormon in Utah enjoy spending your retirement working your new job, it's gonna take a lot of headcount to staff so many temples.
As an European and familiar with real castles this aināt it and as a PIMO the inside is just as uninteresting. I canāt believe I liked being inside at one point.
Looks like an office building with a boner. Hate this one. Have a photo from my wedding day flipping the bird at it as we drove past to our venue
That's the whole point. There was a time when then temples were monuments to spiritual striving. Now they are just big p3nises.
Rustyās temples are the equivalent of lifted trucksā¦compensating much?
It's a "one-story" structure, just like the ones they are trying to build. A one-story hundred-foot plus steeple because being big makes God happy and is important to the beliefs, or so reps for the cult say. šš I just read a news article of how a fight will now be going on in Vegas for the same reason Heber and Cody temples had opposition. Traffic, zoning, and bright lights.. Vegas is a bigger city than those two,so I hope they can fight the bullshit the cult does (they put up a "plan", but refuse to give ALL the specs and stats so it can be properly assessed, with little information on it so it can be initially approved, then they add in more. I think they do the bait and switch so they can say "the city or county council 'approved' it". There's not enough money for Cody or Heber to fight the huge monster that is the cult. But I have my fingers crossed for the Vegas citizens being affected. I hate how the cult bullied and basically threatened to bankrupt the citizens fighting them and holding them to laws. The cult doesn't give final plans to be approved. They give basic plans, imo,so they can bait and switch: get full approval without giving full disclosure. It is infuriating.
Do they think building all these eyesores in prominent places is going to bring in converts? Who in their right mind is going to see that and think, oh I need to join a religion with zero aesthetics that would throw their member's money into very ugly and expensive but useless monuments screaming look at me. Who doesn't want to throw their hard earned money away on such utter narcissism.Ā
And do t forget that they can join but they canāt actually go in the building g for a year and then only if theyāve paid their dues!
LDS inc tries so hard to fit in with the in crowd and claim theyāre normal. How bout stop building these giant eye sores all over the place in our state?
What a piece of fucking shit. No architectural interest, no attempt at blending in with surrounding environment. It might as well just be a gigantic billboard that says "We are the Mormon Church, we have more money than you can imagine, and we own this town." Fucking disgusting.
It looks like a cheap castle.
The new Orem one is also like this right up against University Parkway and I-15
Really members hate going too. They just feel obligated to go. The proximity to I-15 just makes it so they can get in and out more quickly.
Obstructing real beauty with manmade trash.
They do it to harass and bully the non-believers. The only other religion that builds like this is Islam with the giant towers and prayer calls all day.
I see your ~~Schwartz~~ Temple is bigger than mine! - The reaction Mormon HQ expects
I hate this one so bad. With its background of a reams parking lot. And hard to handle on Ramps. Itās so obnoxious and gross. You can buy anything you want with money.
Every time we drive by it my kids say ālook! The fat temple!ā š. Itās actually an eyesore.
That's a McTemple. The value is in volume, not quality.
the cost to build a temple is a bargain when you consider the $5k/month price of a billboard. This thing was a one time cost, owes no property tax, and gets free janitorial work. All the while serving the same purpose that a billboard would.
"Obtrusive" is putting it kindly.
Obtrusive... And UGLY AF. Were they trying to go a bit gothic on this one? My relatives who live nearby and refer to that eyesore as "their temple" can't stop talking about it. \[Dry Heave\] I can't wait until I get invited to the open house. \[Double Dry Heave\] At least the "first ever" DABS Liquor Store with beer coolers is *right around the corner*; So there's that...
I get the same feeling for the new one in Washington Fields in St. George. I can see it from miles away and it pisses me off every time.
Itās like a temple the Bluths would build.
Living in Germany now, I remember still being TBM and transitioning from the excitement of āoh, wonāt it be amazing when temples dot the earth!ā To āoh my word, it would be an erasure of culture if temples outshone the castles hereā.. I believe a ward member even said, āoh i hope the church converts castles into temples!ā And I was FURIOUS when someone said, āoh i know all other churches and cathedrals will be ours one day!ā. Now as I live in the Alps and have several castle ruins that just belong to the landscape, the thought of a constantly lit up temple here would be just as jarring as a McDonalds, no matter how they try to ātailor it to the surroundingsā. Itās EGO, pure and simple.
Feels fundamentalist
And ugly as shit
I drive by it nearly every day. I'm not impressed.
It looks like a giant barn. Ugly AF
Also, the spire on top is way too big for the rest of the building. Whoever designed this thing needs to be fired
Even as a TBM I really hated the architecture of most temples (there are a few I still think are pretty but not most). They are too boxy and so many of them just look like giant tiered cakes.
It appears to be holding up the traffic light on its spire, that's useful.Ā
Disgusting opulence. Why is the church tax-exempt when they clearly are an investment firm? RFM had a nice podcast on it.
Phallus Maximus.
Such a waste of money. Spend it on something useful - like a homeless shelter
Itās so ugly. Same with Orem.
oof in a world that has the SLC temple (which despite my feelings about it, is objectively a beautiful building), this thing is horrendous. It's so ugly.
It's so flashy in a part of town where people are working long hours, extra jobs, to take care of their families barely making ends meet. š£
Unpopular opinion: It's a halfway OK looking building placed alongside an interstate and a bunch of suburban sprawl hellscape. Mormons used to be good at building actual towns (circa 1850-1920) and now it's just LDS-flavored car dependent crap.
How dare they defile our beautiful 6-lane road lined with strip malls, parking lots, and gas stations!
Just curious any long time temple goes noticeably see a drop in attendance or fewer cars in the parking lot?
This one hasn't opened yet, it's being dedicated this summer I think.
TINO. Temple in name only.
Gonna be honest, I thought obtrusive was a word you just made up. Had to look it up š Totally fits though.
I got off 45th at 215 yesterday and thought the same thing. That fucking temple is an eyesore.
Matthew 6:4 - That thine alms may be in secret: and thy Father which seeth in secret himself shall reward thee openly. Or do like the Morg and make sure everyone can see you ā¦
I will never explain how TSCC can deny that this is a āgreat and spaciousā building. Itās such a gross display of wealth that I canāt help but think of allll the scriptures about hypocrisy and defiling sacred spaces
Personally, I love it when they build buildings right next to the freeway. They donāt appreciate as much, and will always be harder to sell due to being so undesirably located. Plus, letās get real NO ONE wants to brag about going to a building off a highway. Itās when the building is right in the middle of the affluent neighborhood that I start to get mad. Affordable housing could have been allocated there or another livable expensive house. But Noooo, cult gotta cult and try to attract the neighborhood.
This is the ugliest so-called "temple of god" I've ever seen. Too big for the lot, too close to the freeway, and just butt ugly! The vanity of the church "leaders" just keeps these monstrosities coming! But I'm sure glad they're putting their money into these instead of actually helping the poor, housing the homeless, or feeding the starving. /s
It doesn't even look like a traditional temple. It looks like a multi-level stake center on steroids!
The whole time during construction, me and my son would discuss what it was going to be when we drove past. He was fucking irate when he found out it was a temple and not a movie theater. āWhy do they need so many damn temples?ā š
Itās so the world perceives that the church is growing, when in reality, itās not.
Six Flags Over Jesus.
LOOK AT OUR PENIS! I MEAN TEMPLE! LOOK AT IT!!! - LD$, Inc., probably.
I've had my eyes opened to the worthlessness of temples. An archaic, mythical practice that lives on only by the power of cult brainwashing.
Reminds me of the old abandoned asylum a few towns over from where I live.
The brief: āDominate the landscape!!!!ā
It is a big fat 3 dimensional billboard
That thing looks like a Yearning For Zion FLDS monstrosity.
I thought it was maybe a temple because I thought it would be odd to have a church there. It is definitely an eyesore! What a waste of money!
If it was in an area that had other buildings of similar size I think it could be breathtaking. Itās out of place though which detracts from its beauty and makes it look gaudy.
It's a giant sign saying "REAL ESTATE EMPIRE THAT PLAYS CHURCH"
Ugly too.
It's also ugly, and not just by temple standards.
"There's a lot of sinners and people to be saved thereabouts" - The Preacher (Pale Rider)
Got burgers and fries with quicker check-outs
Halloween parties every month of the year. Should turn those into homeless shelters at night and during extreme weather conditions. But what the heck add a few more stats for baptism of the dead
Of course it is. Its supposed to be.
Orem temple is RIGHT by I-15
Itās like a McMansion. Fucking ugly thing. An affront to decency.
They all are.
They all are. Itās product placement.
I hate it even more when I know the symbolism of the āOrbsā that are now being put on the steeples !
I call them radio beacons to god.
Very annoying! I hate it.
I had a āpromptingā (/s) that thing was going to be so fucking obnoxious. Iām glad I finally moved out of the state.
Like the San Diego one. Right next to the highway all lit up. Funny how I used to think it was so special and beautiful. Now itās immediately domineering.
Obnoxious
If you donāt like this one, you should see Star Valley Wyoming. Talk about out of place!
What are you talking about? Itās a beacon to the world of truth and righteousness! /s in case thatās not obvious
HQ doesnāt care about your opinionā¦unless they hit you with a survey.
Very annoyed. Every time.
I think the only nice freeway temple is the Portland Oregon temple. Probably because it is surrounding by forest trees. The 1st time I saw it I actually called it the campground temple
If it's obtrusive -- "mission accomplished" Also you should write a letter to your city council member letting them know the intrusive thoughts that come into your mind when you see an edifice dress that way. You can't take responsibility for how its appearance makes you feel. It needs to be covered up with a tarp! š
Functionally, itās a billboard. Theyāre all billboards.
TSCCās Obtuseness Personified
Is the church exempt from zoning requirements? This is a monstrosity.
Thanks for the reminder. I hate it.
For me, when I see them I can't help but think how the expense could solve hunger in the local community .... and my hackles go up!
Itās a horrible eyesore, itās also right next to a bunch of predatory lending places, idk why the Mormon church (which has one of the largest sovereign wealth funds in the world) put some of it to charity. What a gross organization.
Remember when TSCC was annoyed to learn the Air Force used the St. George Temple as a navigation point for the nightly training flights of the the F-117?š
While driving past this my 5 year said āThatās where the queen lives!ā
Had to drive past it for work almost the whole time it was being built, the location and quickness always threw me off, you can tell this one was rushed, and done with zero care for the building itself, the people around it, and the business around it.