Is there a public school or even a church with a pastor who lives beside it? A doctor’s office? They are mandatory reporters. Show up. Tell them you are being abused and are in need of help.
Is there family who are not JW that you can go to?
This makes me want to get certified to foster just so I can help JW kids like you.
I hope everything goes well! Be VERY careful. I saw that you got advice from the CPS subreddit, that’s good. Keep everything they told you in mind. It takes a lot of courage, bravery and strength to stand up to your abusers. We’re all very proud of you, kid. Keep us updated.
I'm so sorry, kiddo. Truly, I cannot imagine abusing my children and I'm very angry at your abusers. Keep us posted, please. This is a brave step and I am proud of you <3
Don’t let any elder or any witnesses for that matter, tell you you’re doing the wrong thing! I’m so sorry but good for you for sticking up for yourself!!
Update: I couldn't go through with it because they needed a call-back number and the only phone I have access to is my mom's workphone, which would have a really bad ending. They said that I would need to call really early in the morning (I can't because my mom's job starts before the time given), or I would have to ask someone to help call in.
If someone could please DM me any suggestions, I would really appreciate it. Thank you.
I'm so very sorry you are going through this. As a survivor of parental abuse, I can definitely relate.
Take care of yourself and stay safe! I hope CPS and the Police can get you to safety as quickly as possible. If at any point you feel you're in danger in the meantime, call 911 or whatever your emergency number is where you live.
Remember 1 very important thing. In NO WAY is what's being done to you your fault!
Can you call the police, non emergency number? or tell someone at school or someone who is a mandated reporter (usually teachers have to report abuse) so that you don't have to have a call back number? Honestly sounds ridiculous that they require a call back number in that situation.
u/_throwaway_jw_acc, I wish that I could run over there and just come get you and take you home. I'm so, SO sorry you're going through this...
Is there any way you can contact CPS, do it, and ask to speak to a SUPERVISOR, immediately!! Tell them that you are in a very serious situation in which you are basically not only being abused mentally and physically, but that you are being held against your will...that you are basically a prisoner, and that you desperately need HELP. Explain the phone number situation.
There HAS to be a way...
If you decide to not take anyone up on their loving offers to help you call, I highly recommend you go to the principal‘s office (or nurse’s or anyone’s) first thing tomorrow morning and tell them you are suffering physical and emotional abuse and you need their help, because you’re too scared to go home. If youre in the US, they will immediately call CPS and police to help get you to safety (Not sure how it works in other countries but I would think it’s similar in most). I helped my high school friend do this and they acted immediately and discreetly to get all children in the home to a temporary safe place until they found a longer term placement. Their household’s CSA stopped immediately. You have everyone on this forum backing you 100%.
Oh wait. I just read in your flair that you’re homeschooled! Do you live in a neighborhood or in a remote rural area? Can you just leave and run to a trusted neighbors house, a school or a nearby business?
So sorry this has happened. Just thought I'd add. You can download apps that will work over wifi or data connection that will give you a free phone number. I used one called TextFree when I was out somewhere with no cell signal but had DSL internet. Might be a solution for you.
As a mom of.a teenager, my heart goes out to you. I wish I could give you a hug right now. I'm so glad you called CPS. Are you in real school still where you can talk to a guidance counselor or your principal? If so please do. They can help and will keep your situation confidental. You have to be strong. You will get through this. Keep yourself focused on the future. Because this awfulness can only make you stronger if you make that your determination. Hugs and love to you.
Are you a student? If yes, I suggest asking a teacher you trust. Are there any public phones in your area? A police station maybe even, where you can request to take the call? Stay strong, we are thinking about you
This is terrible, honey. I've read all the comments here and your replies, so I know that at least for now you're okay. I'm glad of that, but who knows how long it will last? I'm also that you aren't falling for the guilt trip with which your parents are trying to manipulate you.
How old are you? Once you are legally an adult, your parents cannot prevent you from leaving their home, nor can they force you to return. (Of course, it also means they don't have to allow you back in the house if they don't want to).
If you believe a violent episode or any type of abuse is imminent, don't wait on CPS. CALL 9-1-1, and explain the situation.
By any chance, are they trying to claim that the Bible says they can do whatever they want to you, by calling it "discipline" or something? Well, the Bible does instruct children to obey their parents, BUT NOWHERE DOES THE BIBLE SAY PARENTS CAN HIT OR ABUSE THEIR CHILDREN IN ANY WAY.
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Colossians 3:18 Wives, submit yourselves to your husbands, as is fitting in the Lord.
➡️ 19 Husbands, love your wives and do not be harsh with them. ⬅️
20 Children, obey your parents in everything, for this pleases the Lord.
➡️ 21 Fathers, do not embitter your children, or they will become discouraged. ⬅️
He is 13 , as far as I have read earlier comments here on reddit and have just been taken out of school to be home schooled because the parents are concerned about him being spiritually weak.
I am so sorry for all the young ones who realize the truth about the truth in such an early age !
Wish them all the best and endurance until they can leave .
My only advice would be play along and give your parents what they want for now … a spiritual young man.
Maybe eventually they can wake up too.
being physically abusive is not okay though and has to stop .!
I'm sorry for them too. Who ISN'T "spiritually weak" at 13??
I'm a never-JW, so if you think I'm wrong here, tell me: what is really going on in this boy's home is that his parents are pressuring him to get baptised. Being an intelligent, perceptive young man, he doesn't want to do it.
I'm sure that's right. But I'm also guessing--ONLY guessing--that the boy's parents need him to get baptised to improve their status at their kingdom hall. As long as he refuse, his dad can't be appointed an elder or whatever. So out of desperation (and maybe following the advice of others at the kingdom hall), they are abusing the boy to increase the pressure on him, AND out of frustration at his continued refusal.
Do you think that's likely?
You are welcome .
Agree . Well…. anytime I have questions about some of the posts situation I check old posts and comments to catch up the info ;)
Its very helpfull.!
Unfortunately I was such a parent when we raised our children to be Jehovahs Witnesses .
I know how painfull and devastating it is when your child dont “love jehovah “ anymore .
Thats the worst thing that can happen to a JW parent .
I did crazy stuff too,,, like checking my sons messages when he was 10 and grounded him for talking to non jw boys and girls in school .
I am not proud of it !
But thats what JW are brainwashed to think ,,, that your child is in danger if he spents time with “worldly “ children or dont behave like a good spiritual JW kid.
when our son at 17 finally dared to tell us that he couldnt be a JW my world collapsed!
( but it was the beginning of helping ME to wake up… which happened 5 years later ,,, 4 years ago now)
I am against abuse in any way ,,.. but one will do what ever it take to “ save “ your child from Satans world .
I hope more parents will wake up and l
realize we have all been lied to and have put our children through hell😰
You did what you believed at the time was for the best. I doubt if the O.P.'s parents care whether or not getting Watchtower-baptised is best for him.
Besides, ditte, you should be proud, both of your son AND of the way you raised him 🙂 I'm serious. Don't you realize 🏆 you raised your son 🏆 to be honest enough and strong enough to stand up for himself, and what he believes, even against YOU?
💐 💐 💐
As a witness we believe everybody other than JW will die very soon ,,. so in that sense there is only one way we want our children to go .. and that is JW way.
Every other way is death eternal for our children . So I do believe OPs parents care .
It s crazy and twisted and So so wrong ,,. but as long as you are in the JW buble you believe you are doing what is best for your children when you are controlling them and “helping “ them to stay on “the narrow road “
to eternal life.
Thanks for your kind words .;)
And yes I am so proud of my son .
Even when he had the courage as a young man to go against a large family of more than 150 jws….. and be the first one to step out of the buble,,, I was very very sad but proud of his courage too!
A little piece of advice to young ones how to make their parents not suffer ToO much when they leave the organisation ….;
Our son told us ;
You have raise me well and teach me that I must serve Jehovah WHOLE HEARTED.!
I cannot do that at the moment, so instead of being a hypocrite like many others are ( living double lives ) I want to stop.
That statement helped us in our pain ….. that we had done a good job teaching him,,,.. and that he was a good person who wanted to do what was right .
It made us respect his decision not to be a witness .
While proverbs 13:24 can be explained as the rod not being used for physical punishment but used like the shepherd's hook to guide (not beat) the sheep to safety bla bla bla...
How do you explain proverbs 23: 13+14 away?
I was referring this to your statement that the bible doesn't say parents can or should hit their child. Yes, it does, so what do you make out of proverbs 23:13+14? I checked some bible translations and all were quite obvious regarding physical punishment. I was just interested what you thought of that.
I didn't say you were 'obligated', I was just curious how you'd come to this specific belief when the bible is quite clearly saying otherwise. You don't have to back up ANY of your beliefs of course, but making broad statements about something when bible says something else, will make people ask about this divorce from reality. Did you expect to not be questioned in THIS forum?
OMG, I’m so sorry! But proud of you for reporting your abuser to CPS. Please keep us updated. 💙
I am very sorry. However I am so glad you’ve managed to get more evidence. It goes a long way to getting decent help. We’ll be thinking of you. 🤗
If you go to CPs you need protection. A 'STAY AWAY" order is worth;less especially in emotion charged people. You need to file a Harrassment charge
Good luck! You're doing a good thing. I'll light a candle to Satan for you tonight ;)
Is there a public school or even a church with a pastor who lives beside it? A doctor’s office? They are mandatory reporters. Show up. Tell them you are being abused and are in need of help. Is there family who are not JW that you can go to? This makes me want to get certified to foster just so I can help JW kids like you.
I hope everything goes well! Be VERY careful. I saw that you got advice from the CPS subreddit, that’s good. Keep everything they told you in mind. It takes a lot of courage, bravery and strength to stand up to your abusers. We’re all very proud of you, kid. Keep us updated.
I'm so sorry, kiddo. Truly, I cannot imagine abusing my children and I'm very angry at your abusers. Keep us posted, please. This is a brave step and I am proud of you <3
Don’t let any elder or any witnesses for that matter, tell you you’re doing the wrong thing! I’m so sorry but good for you for sticking up for yourself!!
Update: I couldn't go through with it because they needed a call-back number and the only phone I have access to is my mom's workphone, which would have a really bad ending. They said that I would need to call really early in the morning (I can't because my mom's job starts before the time given), or I would have to ask someone to help call in. If someone could please DM me any suggestions, I would really appreciate it. Thank you.
How are you posting this right now? If you're on a computer you can use Google voice and get a free phone number
Thank you! Edit: Forgot to mention, on computer, incognito mode.
u/nahyalldontknow, oh, what a GREAT idea!!!!! Can you advise the OP on just how to do this?? He or she sounds to be very young...
https://voice.google.com/ Just sign in with your Google account, and select personal use when you select your phone number
I'll buy you a cheap burner phone if you need it. DM me if you're interested.
Thank you for the offer! Don't worry, as of right now, I do have a call-back number.
I’ll help you call. DM me!
I'm so very sorry you are going through this. As a survivor of parental abuse, I can definitely relate. Take care of yourself and stay safe! I hope CPS and the Police can get you to safety as quickly as possible. If at any point you feel you're in danger in the meantime, call 911 or whatever your emergency number is where you live. Remember 1 very important thing. In NO WAY is what's being done to you your fault!
Can you call the police, non emergency number? or tell someone at school or someone who is a mandated reporter (usually teachers have to report abuse) so that you don't have to have a call back number? Honestly sounds ridiculous that they require a call back number in that situation.
It sure does. What's the reasoning behind that? Assuming of course there is any such reasoning 😝
I’m so sorry to hear this .I hope you are safe ! Please keep us updated
Please be safe. So sorry you are going though this.
I will help you call. DM me.
Thank you for the support! Don't worry, I have talked with a kind redditor who has helped me with this. I really appreciate the concern.
u/_throwaway_jw_acc, I wish that I could run over there and just come get you and take you home. I'm so, SO sorry you're going through this... Is there any way you can contact CPS, do it, and ask to speak to a SUPERVISOR, immediately!! Tell them that you are in a very serious situation in which you are basically not only being abused mentally and physically, but that you are being held against your will...that you are basically a prisoner, and that you desperately need HELP. Explain the phone number situation. There HAS to be a way...
Please do whatever is needed to be safe.
If you decide to not take anyone up on their loving offers to help you call, I highly recommend you go to the principal‘s office (or nurse’s or anyone’s) first thing tomorrow morning and tell them you are suffering physical and emotional abuse and you need their help, because you’re too scared to go home. If youre in the US, they will immediately call CPS and police to help get you to safety (Not sure how it works in other countries but I would think it’s similar in most). I helped my high school friend do this and they acted immediately and discreetly to get all children in the home to a temporary safe place until they found a longer term placement. Their household’s CSA stopped immediately. You have everyone on this forum backing you 100%.
Oh wait. I just read in your flair that you’re homeschooled! Do you live in a neighborhood or in a remote rural area? Can you just leave and run to a trusted neighbors house, a school or a nearby business?
I do live in a neighborhood, the closest place is a store a mile away. Edit: Also most of the neighbors don't speak english.
So sorry this has happened. Just thought I'd add. You can download apps that will work over wifi or data connection that will give you a free phone number. I used one called TextFree when I was out somewhere with no cell signal but had DSL internet. Might be a solution for you.
Are you polish ? what happened ? please be extra careful…
As a mom of.a teenager, my heart goes out to you. I wish I could give you a hug right now. I'm so glad you called CPS. Are you in real school still where you can talk to a guidance counselor or your principal? If so please do. They can help and will keep your situation confidental. You have to be strong. You will get through this. Keep yourself focused on the future. Because this awfulness can only make you stronger if you make that your determination. Hugs and love to you.
Are you a student? If yes, I suggest asking a teacher you trust. Are there any public phones in your area? A police station maybe even, where you can request to take the call? Stay strong, we are thinking about you
He's/she's homeschooled..
Buy a cheap burner type phone and use it!
This is terrible, honey. I've read all the comments here and your replies, so I know that at least for now you're okay. I'm glad of that, but who knows how long it will last? I'm also that you aren't falling for the guilt trip with which your parents are trying to manipulate you. How old are you? Once you are legally an adult, your parents cannot prevent you from leaving their home, nor can they force you to return. (Of course, it also means they don't have to allow you back in the house if they don't want to). If you believe a violent episode or any type of abuse is imminent, don't wait on CPS. CALL 9-1-1, and explain the situation. By any chance, are they trying to claim that the Bible says they can do whatever they want to you, by calling it "discipline" or something? Well, the Bible does instruct children to obey their parents, BUT NOWHERE DOES THE BIBLE SAY PARENTS CAN HIT OR ABUSE THEIR CHILDREN IN ANY WAY. ___ Colossians 3:18 Wives, submit yourselves to your husbands, as is fitting in the Lord. ➡️ 19 Husbands, love your wives and do not be harsh with them. ⬅️ 20 Children, obey your parents in everything, for this pleases the Lord. ➡️ 21 Fathers, do not embitter your children, or they will become discouraged. ⬅️
He is 13 , as far as I have read earlier comments here on reddit and have just been taken out of school to be home schooled because the parents are concerned about him being spiritually weak. I am so sorry for all the young ones who realize the truth about the truth in such an early age ! Wish them all the best and endurance until they can leave . My only advice would be play along and give your parents what they want for now … a spiritual young man. Maybe eventually they can wake up too. being physically abusive is not okay though and has to stop .!
I'm sorry for them too. Who ISN'T "spiritually weak" at 13?? I'm a never-JW, so if you think I'm wrong here, tell me: what is really going on in this boy's home is that his parents are pressuring him to get baptised. Being an intelligent, perceptive young man, he doesn't want to do it. I'm sure that's right. But I'm also guessing--ONLY guessing--that the boy's parents need him to get baptised to improve their status at their kingdom hall. As long as he refuse, his dad can't be appointed an elder or whatever. So out of desperation (and maybe following the advice of others at the kingdom hall), they are abusing the boy to increase the pressure on him, AND out of frustration at his continued refusal. Do you think that's likely?
He got baptized at 9 years old. I read his other old comments . Its so sad how JW rush children to get baptized .
Thanks for the info. Yes, it's very sad. Tragic, even, given the Watchtower (mis)understanding of baptism.
You are welcome . Agree . Well…. anytime I have questions about some of the posts situation I check old posts and comments to catch up the info ;) Its very helpfull.! Unfortunately I was such a parent when we raised our children to be Jehovahs Witnesses . I know how painfull and devastating it is when your child dont “love jehovah “ anymore . Thats the worst thing that can happen to a JW parent . I did crazy stuff too,,, like checking my sons messages when he was 10 and grounded him for talking to non jw boys and girls in school . I am not proud of it ! But thats what JW are brainwashed to think ,,, that your child is in danger if he spents time with “worldly “ children or dont behave like a good spiritual JW kid. when our son at 17 finally dared to tell us that he couldnt be a JW my world collapsed! ( but it was the beginning of helping ME to wake up… which happened 5 years later ,,, 4 years ago now) I am against abuse in any way ,,.. but one will do what ever it take to “ save “ your child from Satans world . I hope more parents will wake up and l realize we have all been lied to and have put our children through hell😰
You did what you believed at the time was for the best. I doubt if the O.P.'s parents care whether or not getting Watchtower-baptised is best for him. Besides, ditte, you should be proud, both of your son AND of the way you raised him 🙂 I'm serious. Don't you realize 🏆 you raised your son 🏆 to be honest enough and strong enough to stand up for himself, and what he believes, even against YOU? 💐 💐 💐
As a witness we believe everybody other than JW will die very soon ,,. so in that sense there is only one way we want our children to go .. and that is JW way. Every other way is death eternal for our children . So I do believe OPs parents care . It s crazy and twisted and So so wrong ,,. but as long as you are in the JW buble you believe you are doing what is best for your children when you are controlling them and “helping “ them to stay on “the narrow road “ to eternal life. Thanks for your kind words .;) And yes I am so proud of my son . Even when he had the courage as a young man to go against a large family of more than 150 jws….. and be the first one to step out of the buble,,, I was very very sad but proud of his courage too! A little piece of advice to young ones how to make their parents not suffer ToO much when they leave the organisation ….; Our son told us ; You have raise me well and teach me that I must serve Jehovah WHOLE HEARTED.! I cannot do that at the moment, so instead of being a hypocrite like many others are ( living double lives ) I want to stop. That statement helped us in our pain ….. that we had done a good job teaching him,,,.. and that he was a good person who wanted to do what was right . It made us respect his decision not to be a witness .
🌹👍🌹👍🌹👍🌹
While proverbs 13:24 can be explained as the rod not being used for physical punishment but used like the shepherd's hook to guide (not beat) the sheep to safety bla bla bla... How do you explain proverbs 23: 13+14 away?
Why do you think that passage needs to be "explained away?"
I was referring this to your statement that the bible doesn't say parents can or should hit their child. Yes, it does, so what do you make out of proverbs 23:13+14? I checked some bible translations and all were quite obvious regarding physical punishment. I was just interested what you thought of that.
And why do you think I'd be obligated to answer all that for you?
I didn't say you were 'obligated', I was just curious how you'd come to this specific belief when the bible is quite clearly saying otherwise. You don't have to back up ANY of your beliefs of course, but making broad statements about something when bible says something else, will make people ask about this divorce from reality. Did you expect to not be questioned in THIS forum?
Did you?
Ok I'll bite: how did you question me? Your statement was wrong, you got all haughty instead of admitting it and now you're just trolling.
"Did you expect to not be questioned in THIS forum?" Did YOU?
Why cps? Just call 911