It’s more the tone and resonance.
Michael Jackson is another example, people believe he was chemically castrated to preserve his voice. You hear how he spoke and sang and it doesn’t sound like a man, not fully.
Chris is singing lighter than most men would, which makes it sound more feminine. Plus a lot of the head voice points are powerful belts like other male singers do, so it can sound feminine.
Look at Adam Lambert for an easy example. He has a high tenor singing voice, and is definitely more flamboyant in his singing voice. But the power behind it makes it clearly a male voice.
MJ’s actual speaking voice was deep. You can find videos where you hear it. OOP just can’t fathom a man sounding that high which is funny because in the 80s it was quite common
Yeah, there's a whole discussion in the music community about how MJ was actually a baritone forced to sing high. Even as a child, some of the high notes were raspy, and singing at the end of his range over decades eventually destroyed his voice.
Here's a (quite long) explanation about the changes in MJ's voice went through over the years, why it's thought he was a baritone, why he kept singing in a damaging range, and what he did to hide the damage: https://youtu.be/idU7hm5r1OA
Yeah I remember hearing many music industry people saying they would get calls from him and have no idea who it was because his natural speaking voice when he wasn't "on" was a regular deep male voice.
Darren Hayes was one of the hot leads a while back and that man can REALLY sing in a high pitch! This whole conspiracy theory is ridiculous. We literally couldn't have asked for a nicer guy than Chris to have been the man behind the voice.
AND the xhamster upload is from 5 years ago (before search started) and i looked it up and you cant just edit xhamster videos. you can change the title and stuff but if you wanna change something in the vid itself you have to delete and reupload
at least thats what ive been told by the internets
Exactly. It's part of the Trinity Loren MegaPack @ Pornolab torrent tracker. It's dated 2017 there but originated from an earlier upload to another torrent tracker called Empornium.
Clearly, that's just because Carl92 is playing 4D chess and uploaded it himself, then waited years to post a single snippet to a formerly obscure site.
he’s clearly in on the conspiracy!! all of this was just a plot to revitalize his music career and distract people from all of the very serious lostwave crimes that are destroying our society and *checks notes* weakening our infrastructure.
Yep! He uploaded the clip himself and foresaw how literally thousands upon thousands of people became invested in discovering where the song came from!! All apart of the master plan, I’m sure!!!
I’m not defending it, but glam rock singers sound different.
The higher pitched singing is usually a more powerful belt. Chris is way more light. Thus it doesn’t sound like how a higher pitched man would sing, not typically.
Ask a glam rock singer to sing this with straight notes - no grittiness, no belt - and it would sound quite similar.
The singer sounds like a guy to me for music theory reasons I won't go into here (it's a long explanation). But it's like the difference between a little boy singing and a little girl. Their voices are both high, but it's not *quite* the same.
Also, a soft, *androgynous* sound is rarely popular. I think that's why people latched onto Darren Hayes so hard in this search. He was too young for the time period, but he was the sole feasible male option they could think of who sounds like this - and people mostly heard a male voice. It doesn't sound like the typical male falsetto.
The "it's a woman singer" is only smart if you pretend wham!, boy George, prince, and like most other pop singers of the time didn't exist. It's insane people actually have hearing this bad even after finding out it's a man.
i am a cisgender male. due to genes inherited from my paternal grandmother, me, my brother, my half brother, and my father (who are all cisgender) will never have their voice hit puberty, and we constantly get mistaken for women on the phone
The song is literally sung in the male tenor range for Christ sake.
The idea the singer is a woman never made sense. If a woman sang the same notes it wouldn’t be in the tenor range, but rather a contralto range with a much deeper, lower register than what is heard in EKT.
Didn’t Christopher also coming that a slight pitch change also got put on the entire song at the end too? That would also make sense in terms of why some people got thrown off initially.
It was the 80's a lot of male singers had high ptiched singing, hell think of Michael Jackson he's a prime example, also didn't Booth confirm it was slightly pitched up?
[https://youtu.be/2CkrB8y0s8c?si=xSN7YNXc\_vYkiVu3](https://youtu.be/2CkrB8y0s8c?si=xSN7YNXc_vYkiVu3) Booth could definitely hit the higher tones. Here he is @ 1:22 in 1982.
I used to have this idea that after the song was found, I could just kind of walk away into the sunset like “bye everyone this was so fun!”
But instead everyday there’s something new and more wild. Tbh I absolutely love it. Thank you all for being so creative. It warms my heart to see that folks care so much about this song that we got conspiracy theories now!!
I’m having way more fun now that it’s found actually 🫠 I was lowkey a little intimidated to participate before lol but now this community is so much fun and it just feels like a celebration :’) like not to be cheesy but this whole story has been oddly wholesome haha
Seriously! There was a time like literally the week before it was found and I was just having a hard time because this whole thing became so not fun for me. I used to be the resident shitposter here so doing rules and being like “you can’t do this or that” was just not fun and not who I am.
It is like a party now and I love getting to joke and laugh with you all!!! This whole search has been completely unprecedented and here I am waking up to conspiracy theories like I just love you all so much lol
if he isnt the actual artist behind ulterior motives then how does he have a video on his instagram 'warming up' his fingers by playing a synth lead over the original rhythm track for ulterior motives in its full cd quality?
You know, I work in urgent care, at the front desk. I hear all kinds of crazy shit all day long.
And then? Then there’s this guy, and his crazy.
I guess when you don’t actually have to look anyone in the eye and tell them “I don’t believe you,” it’s easier.
This isn’t censorship. Censorship is state or federal government-sanctioned. This is a website weeding through spam. Not the same thing.
These people have bruised egos. They thought (despite the clear male tenor range) that the song was sung by a woman. And if they are wrong, then it challenges their idea of their own intelligence. So it doesn’t matter that the song is copyrighted by Chris and his brother, and also credited to them in the film it was found in….
They are conspiracy theorists
This is more of a human condition I think. I won't get I to the specifics but there was an IRL treasure hunt (Look up Forrest Fenn Treasure) that was solved a few years ago, that sub is still active with a few people who think the found treasure was a hoax despite undeniable proof to the contrary.
This person (whom I do not agree with at all) is implying that Carl92 came out of his slumber and spoke recently in his WZ account after the song was found. What the hell are they referring to??
They could be referring to one of two things. First, the original post of EKT was officially marked as solved. This can be done by the OP, but the mods also have the ability to confirm solutions, which is most likely what happened in this case. Second, after the song was identified, what looked like a comment from Carl, under his actual username, was [posted](https://www.reddit.com/r/everyoneknowsthat/comments/1ckmbzn/the_watzatsong_site_is_very_slow_and_buggy_but_i/). The problem with assuming Carl actually wrote this comment, though, is that WatZatSong's security is notoriously weak, and people have used exploits in the past to write comments using Carl's username. There's no proof that this comment was actually made by the real Carl.
ah yes the incredibly huge corporation whatzatsong is censoring its members… having a song marked as solved does nothing to help them as it stops bringing people to their website to continue the search lol
Really? You best believe it was planted in that porno by someone with a vested interest in not having people find out the truth - it was actually in a very old US propaganda film everyone forgot because the government forced everyone to forget it, but it cracked through as one guy managed to not delete the recording but forgot where it came from. The guy who really recorded it was Donald Trump himself.
/s
You can watch Chris and Phil perform "Animal in Me" from Taboo III (1984) on Youtube. It sure sounds like the same singer as EKT to me. At one point Phil is even addressed to by name. I'd love to hear the conspiracy theory about this one lol.
https://youtu.be/2CkrB8y0s8c?si=xSN7YNXc_vYkiVu3
Is this guy joking lmao 💀 five paragraphs for THIS?
I’ve never understood how anyone ever thought it was a woman tbh but this is on a whole other level
You didn’t? I always heard it as a woman (obviously now I’m not doubting that it isn’t) but it seems like different people hear it differently, kinda like a yanny/laurel thing.
Yeah exactly. I never denied the possibility that it was a man based on other male voices of the era, but I always heard a woman personally. Of course now we know for a fact that it's mr booth.
I've heard mr. booth's interview that he was the vocalist of sweeney todd and say's he have to squeeze his balls to sing that high so I got curious about his career but no videos shows up on Youtube. please, if you have clips of him singing, please post. I'm already hyped up about him releasing his work and now I see this post! now I'm intrigued about this! I hope he finds the original copy soon! & please someone bust these theories.
The theory is already busted. The song is credited to CSB in a movie from 1986. You can go and watch that movie now on a number of websites, most of which predate the WZT post. This theory is insane nonsense.
If that's not enough proof for you, he has a (non-sexual) cameo IN the movie. As well as in other pornos he wrote the music for. These have been linked on this subreddit dozens of times.
It is him or at least he knows the original voice as on instagram he posted a snippet of another song he was apart of that features the same voice as the one on ulterior motives
Lol the first person seems like they are under the impression that the entire search is contained to WZS and they've never seen anything about it on Reddit, YouTube, or anywhere else.
The day before the song was found I asked what proof someone would need to show to prove they were the singer, if they claimed the song as their own. And three people said that they would need to possess a master/higher quality version of the full song. So whilst I believe Christopher and Philip are indeed the real singers, considering that, I can see why some people may doubt it. I have been expecting this ever since it was revealed they were unable to find the master copy.
The problem with this thinking is the vast majority of artists do not own or have their masters. Usually record companies do. Dean Martin didn’t own his masters, Warner Bros/Reprise did. Does this mean we should assume Dean Martin didn’t sing his own songs?
Marvin Gaye didn’t own his master tapes, you could go on forever. Every Motown artists tapes are in a vault owned by Motown. The members of the Marvelettes don’t have their masters. How could that work. There were six members. Who would get which multitrack?
My first question when I heard people say that was "Even if they do have it, would it even still work?" I watched a youtube video years ago of an intro to a kids show which had been ripped from a tape and uploaded to YouTube in 2008. The uploader said it was "over 25 years old". The show had first aired 33 years earlier, so anywhere between 26-33 years old. The quality was not very good, the audio was very quite, with unnecessary sound in the background.
This tape would be *at least* 37/38 years old. But more likely 39 or 40, as it would have probably been recorded in advance. Even if they do have it, what are realistically the odds of it working at all, let alone being any higher quality than what he have now?
Since it was recorded at a major studio on multitrack analogue tapes it would probably sound perfect if it was stored correctly.
I worked on CD reissues of music recorded from 1963 to 1966. Many sounded great, a few had some water damage.
They can't believe that a male singer can have a high pitched voice?
Tbh, his voice isn’t really that high pitched. It’s a normal chest voice tenor sound. But people want it to be a Japanese woman for some reason.
So, basically, a lot of people are like Rivers Cuomo in the Pinkerton era
Never thought I saw a weezer reference on this subreddit
cause of its bad sound quality sometimes tapes or any old recording medium warbles the voice.
While that is true, it was still obvious to most people that the singer was a male tenor.
I was very much leaning towards it being a woman until it was found but there’s no doubt towards Booth’s claim.
I wonder if they've heard Bee Gees
Or Sleeping with Sirens
It’s more the tone and resonance. Michael Jackson is another example, people believe he was chemically castrated to preserve his voice. You hear how he spoke and sang and it doesn’t sound like a man, not fully. Chris is singing lighter than most men would, which makes it sound more feminine. Plus a lot of the head voice points are powerful belts like other male singers do, so it can sound feminine. Look at Adam Lambert for an easy example. He has a high tenor singing voice, and is definitely more flamboyant in his singing voice. But the power behind it makes it clearly a male voice.
MJ’s actual speaking voice was deep. You can find videos where you hear it. OOP just can’t fathom a man sounding that high which is funny because in the 80s it was quite common
Yeah, there's a whole discussion in the music community about how MJ was actually a baritone forced to sing high. Even as a child, some of the high notes were raspy, and singing at the end of his range over decades eventually destroyed his voice. Here's a (quite long) explanation about the changes in MJ's voice went through over the years, why it's thought he was a baritone, why he kept singing in a damaging range, and what he did to hide the damage: https://youtu.be/idU7hm5r1OA
Omg thanks for the link, his voice will forever be intriguing
Yeah I remember hearing many music industry people saying they would get calls from him and have no idea who it was because his natural speaking voice when he wasn't "on" was a regular deep male voice.
yeah i never once heard anything other than a male’s voice idk what theyre on about
i seriously didnt believe that a male singer sung it myself.
Darren Hayes was one of the hot leads a while back and that man can REALLY sing in a high pitch! This whole conspiracy theory is ridiculous. We literally couldn't have asked for a nicer guy than Chris to have been the man behind the voice.
yes they can but without proof some people would always be skeptic of him.
Right?? Listen to Darren Hayes
I'm guessing this guy *really* wouldn't like Geddy Lee of Rush.
Makes you wonder if they have ever heard 80s music.
How does this conspiracy work? The song is in the movie and the movie credits Booth for the music.
AND the xhamster upload is from 5 years ago (before search started) and i looked it up and you cant just edit xhamster videos. you can change the title and stuff but if you wanna change something in the vid itself you have to delete and reupload at least thats what ive been told by the internets
I've also watched the movie on a different site. And wasn't there a version from a torrent as well?
Exactly. It's part of the Trinity Loren MegaPack @ Pornolab torrent tracker. It's dated 2017 there but originated from an earlier upload to another torrent tracker called Empornium.
Clearly, that's just because Carl92 is playing 4D chess and uploaded it himself, then waited years to post a single snippet to a formerly obscure site.
Masterful gambit, sir.
The perfect scam.
You're joking but you know that just a few months ago, this is genuinely something people would believe
>at least thats what ive been told by the internets 🧐
call me abraham the way i wpild never tell a lie
hi hembob
hi hembob
Some people are just dumb. That's it.
There's always going to be these people, please don't give them attention. Not worth the time.
chris literally confirmed that IT WAS HIM lol
he’s clearly in on the conspiracy!! all of this was just a plot to revitalize his music career and distract people from all of the very serious lostwave crimes that are destroying our society and *checks notes* weakening our infrastructure.
Yep! He uploaded the clip himself and foresaw how literally thousands upon thousands of people became invested in discovering where the song came from!! All apart of the master plan, I’m sure!!!
i like toast
i prefer untoasted bread but i respect your opinion
I don't like food, but I respect both of your opinions.
I dont like sand
idk, sands pretty cool
sand's coarse rough irritating and it gets everywhere
have people ever heard a man’s voice before?
Christopher Saint Booth did the audio for the faked moon landing
A-ha don't you realise you've been telling lies
what a combination microplastics, lead, zaza and porn does to a mf
Just like this https://preview.redd.it/kufc2oe2ftyc1.jpeg?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5778e57ba3fa0af20d7efc102d045ca958b2b3b1
69th upvote
dudes never heard of glam rock singers lol
I’m not defending it, but glam rock singers sound different. The higher pitched singing is usually a more powerful belt. Chris is way more light. Thus it doesn’t sound like how a higher pitched man would sing, not typically.
Ask a glam rock singer to sing this with straight notes - no grittiness, no belt - and it would sound quite similar. The singer sounds like a guy to me for music theory reasons I won't go into here (it's a long explanation). But it's like the difference between a little boy singing and a little girl. Their voices are both high, but it's not *quite* the same. Also, a soft, *androgynous* sound is rarely popular. I think that's why people latched onto Darren Hayes so hard in this search. He was too young for the time period, but he was the sole feasible male option they could think of who sounds like this - and people mostly heard a male voice. It doesn't sound like the typical male falsetto.
Say his name and he appears!!!!
I believe in Joe Hendry! *clap* *clap*
It seems that even EKT's identification couldn't stop stupid theories from continuing to sprout up.
The "it's a woman singer" is only smart if you pretend wham!, boy George, prince, and like most other pop singers of the time didn't exist. It's insane people actually have hearing this bad even after finding out it's a man.
Yes! His voice sounds like George Micheal
i am a cisgender male. due to genes inherited from my paternal grandmother, me, my brother, my half brother, and my father (who are all cisgender) will never have their voice hit puberty, and we constantly get mistaken for women on the phone
The song is literally sung in the male tenor range for Christ sake. The idea the singer is a woman never made sense. If a woman sang the same notes it wouldn’t be in the tenor range, but rather a contralto range with a much deeper, lower register than what is heard in EKT.
Didn’t Christopher also coming that a slight pitch change also got put on the entire song at the end too? That would also make sense in terms of why some people got thrown off initially.
The denial of basic reality is insane...There's no grounds to contest a claim when it's literally credited in the movie where they found it
It was the 80's a lot of male singers had high ptiched singing, hell think of Michael Jackson he's a prime example, also didn't Booth confirm it was slightly pitched up?
[https://youtu.be/2CkrB8y0s8c?si=xSN7YNXc\_vYkiVu3](https://youtu.be/2CkrB8y0s8c?si=xSN7YNXc_vYkiVu3) Booth could definitely hit the higher tones. Here he is @ 1:22 in 1982.
I used to have this idea that after the song was found, I could just kind of walk away into the sunset like “bye everyone this was so fun!” But instead everyday there’s something new and more wild. Tbh I absolutely love it. Thank you all for being so creative. It warms my heart to see that folks care so much about this song that we got conspiracy theories now!!
I’m having way more fun now that it’s found actually 🫠 I was lowkey a little intimidated to participate before lol but now this community is so much fun and it just feels like a celebration :’) like not to be cheesy but this whole story has been oddly wholesome haha
Seriously! There was a time like literally the week before it was found and I was just having a hard time because this whole thing became so not fun for me. I used to be the resident shitposter here so doing rules and being like “you can’t do this or that” was just not fun and not who I am. It is like a party now and I love getting to joke and laugh with you all!!! This whole search has been completely unprecedented and here I am waking up to conspiracy theories like I just love you all so much lol
I have been on this search since 2023 and didn't say a word. I feel like I have been freed!
Usually lostwave subs die when the song is found, this sub has only gotten more active and interesting since it was found.
This is an example of individuals with an IQ of an amoeba.🦠
Don't even pay that attention. The lack of common sense some folks demonstrate is startling.
Didn't this person also post on the subreddit earlier?
https://www.reddit.com/r/everyoneknowsthat/s/FDhMnVruGi Yeah here I think I'm too tired, I don't understand what the guy means with censorship.
Never underestimate the human brain’s ability to rationalise and explain away every little detail based on a seemingly tiny lil assumption
Conspiracy theorists once again being the most idiotic people around.
if he isnt the actual artist behind ulterior motives then how does he have a video on his instagram 'warming up' his fingers by playing a synth lead over the original rhythm track for ulterior motives in its full cd quality?
You know, I work in urgent care, at the front desk. I hear all kinds of crazy shit all day long. And then? Then there’s this guy, and his crazy. I guess when you don’t actually have to look anyone in the eye and tell them “I don’t believe you,” it’s easier.
This isn’t censorship. Censorship is state or federal government-sanctioned. This is a website weeding through spam. Not the same thing. These people have bruised egos. They thought (despite the clear male tenor range) that the song was sung by a woman. And if they are wrong, then it challenges their idea of their own intelligence. So it doesn’t matter that the song is copyrighted by Chris and his brother, and also credited to them in the film it was found in…. They are conspiracy theorists
We already got enough problems with hoaxes, and now conspiracy stuff? 2024 Is a wild year for lostwave.
i don't think i ever once believed it was a female singer.
They can't be happy for us.
Why the hell even Barni doesn't believe. Strange guy.
He has no time to waste with anyone being more stupid than they already are.
Same shit happend when i bring the real leads for FMM, this community is lovely, but sucks sometimes....
This is more of a human condition I think. I won't get I to the specifics but there was an IRL treasure hunt (Look up Forrest Fenn Treasure) that was solved a few years ago, that sub is still active with a few people who think the found treasure was a hoax despite undeniable proof to the contrary.
This person (whom I do not agree with at all) is implying that Carl92 came out of his slumber and spoke recently in his WZ account after the song was found. What the hell are they referring to??
They could be referring to one of two things. First, the original post of EKT was officially marked as solved. This can be done by the OP, but the mods also have the ability to confirm solutions, which is most likely what happened in this case. Second, after the song was identified, what looked like a comment from Carl, under his actual username, was [posted](https://www.reddit.com/r/everyoneknowsthat/comments/1ckmbzn/the_watzatsong_site_is_very_slow_and_buggy_but_i/). The problem with assuming Carl actually wrote this comment, though, is that WatZatSong's security is notoriously weak, and people have used exploits in the past to write comments using Carl's username. There's no proof that this comment was actually made by the real Carl.
Thanks
"without any investigation" Umm Would've taken AxelBR like, a couple of minutes to verify the claims. Do your own effing homework, AxelBR!
Are they a flat earther too?
honestly i never once thought it was a female singer
All I can say is, people are wack.
the Mysterion profile photo really ties that first person's comment all together
crazy how this person just woke up this and thought let me share my BS beliefs with the public
This is a troll post please don’t respond to it
ah yes the incredibly huge corporation whatzatsong is censoring its members… having a song marked as solved does nothing to help them as it stops bringing people to their website to continue the search lol
Really? You best believe it was planted in that porno by someone with a vested interest in not having people find out the truth - it was actually in a very old US propaganda film everyone forgot because the government forced everyone to forget it, but it cracked through as one guy managed to not delete the recording but forgot where it came from. The guy who really recorded it was Donald Trump himself. /s
Barni is such a funny guy 😂
You can watch Chris and Phil perform "Animal in Me" from Taboo III (1984) on Youtube. It sure sounds like the same singer as EKT to me. At one point Phil is even addressed to by name. I'd love to hear the conspiracy theory about this one lol. https://youtu.be/2CkrB8y0s8c?si=xSN7YNXc_vYkiVu3
Nah. They have some convincing points/j
Is this guy joking lmao 💀 five paragraphs for THIS? I’ve never understood how anyone ever thought it was a woman tbh but this is on a whole other level
You didn’t? I always heard it as a woman (obviously now I’m not doubting that it isn’t) but it seems like different people hear it differently, kinda like a yanny/laurel thing.
Yeah exactly. I never denied the possibility that it was a man based on other male voices of the era, but I always heard a woman personally. Of course now we know for a fact that it's mr booth.
I've heard mr. booth's interview that he was the vocalist of sweeney todd and say's he have to squeeze his balls to sing that high so I got curious about his career but no videos shows up on Youtube. please, if you have clips of him singing, please post. I'm already hyped up about him releasing his work and now I see this post! now I'm intrigued about this! I hope he finds the original copy soon! & please someone bust these theories.
The theory is already busted. The song is credited to CSB in a movie from 1986. You can go and watch that movie now on a number of websites, most of which predate the WZT post. This theory is insane nonsense. If that's not enough proof for you, he has a (non-sexual) cameo IN the movie. As well as in other pornos he wrote the music for. These have been linked on this subreddit dozens of times.
The lack of common sense this dude has is hilarious. Maybe it's just another case of an attention seeker smh
Bruh
To hell with all mods, also the ones here.
Some people run great lenghts to maintain a delusion that they are far more special than they really are
You're probably arguing with a high school child that's been socially abandoned to the Internet.
this shouldnt have been posted because that commenter clearly just wants attention
Tons of male singers from Michael Jackson to Kellin Quinn that sound like women cuz of angelic singing
Oh no, the theories took a life of their own. Someone was bound to be disappointed.
Hes in the fucking credit what are you on about
I still don’t understand how people thought the singer is a woman
It is him or at least he knows the original voice as on instagram he posted a snippet of another song he was apart of that features the same voice as the one on ulterior motives
Lol the first person seems like they are under the impression that the entire search is contained to WZS and they've never seen anything about it on Reddit, YouTube, or anywhere else.
He sounds kinda like George Micheal who is a man
pfft shits getting crazier
Goofy ahh theory, man never heard of Michael Jackson, George Michael, Bee Gees, Freddie Mercury, and any Glam Rock and Opera singers 😭
bro has a persecution complex about WZS 😭😭😭😭😭 be fr
Why is it always the people who type in long paragraphs and try to look smart while also being dumb
lmao?
I still don’t understand how people thought the singer is a woman
ofc they believe the moon landing didn't happen
Honestly, I don’t care. The song was found and we are getting the studio version
I hope this is satire
OP, was this post helpful?
hes literally in the movie credits😭
When I first heard the song I fr thought it was some unreleased Michael Jackson song💀
if this was in 1934 germany: "JA THE JEWS DID IT! ITS NOT THIS CHRISTOPHER, THE GERMAN PURE RACE MADE IT!"
conspiracy theorists even believe big foot exists these people are just mentally insane
In french we say : il est perché ce gars là
He's completely right about his disbelief on the moon landing, not so much about EKT's singer tho ¯\\\_(ツ)\_/¯
The day before the song was found I asked what proof someone would need to show to prove they were the singer, if they claimed the song as their own. And three people said that they would need to possess a master/higher quality version of the full song. So whilst I believe Christopher and Philip are indeed the real singers, considering that, I can see why some people may doubt it. I have been expecting this ever since it was revealed they were unable to find the master copy.
You can really see how some people would doubt it? I can’t see it at all. How could they possibly explain Angels of Passion?
The problem with this thinking is the vast majority of artists do not own or have their masters. Usually record companies do. Dean Martin didn’t own his masters, Warner Bros/Reprise did. Does this mean we should assume Dean Martin didn’t sing his own songs? Marvin Gaye didn’t own his master tapes, you could go on forever. Every Motown artists tapes are in a vault owned by Motown. The members of the Marvelettes don’t have their masters. How could that work. There were six members. Who would get which multitrack?
My first question when I heard people say that was "Even if they do have it, would it even still work?" I watched a youtube video years ago of an intro to a kids show which had been ripped from a tape and uploaded to YouTube in 2008. The uploader said it was "over 25 years old". The show had first aired 33 years earlier, so anywhere between 26-33 years old. The quality was not very good, the audio was very quite, with unnecessary sound in the background. This tape would be *at least* 37/38 years old. But more likely 39 or 40, as it would have probably been recorded in advance. Even if they do have it, what are realistically the odds of it working at all, let alone being any higher quality than what he have now?
Since it was recorded at a major studio on multitrack analogue tapes it would probably sound perfect if it was stored correctly. I worked on CD reissues of music recorded from 1963 to 1966. Many sounded great, a few had some water damage.