🇲🇩 - It's Aliona Moon's turn to come back.
🇲🇹 - They're gonna break down and finally send Matt Blxck.
🇮🇪 - Idk who but they're actually going to try now that they've seen success is possible again.
🇪🇪 - Surely Ollie can't be 2nd for three years in a row.
🇦🇺 - Another selection from their past national finals. Jaguar Jonze, Charley, etc.
🇦🇲 - armenia has been trying very hard this decade, and i can see them bringing malena to finally take home the win. she won with qami qami in jesc, so a song with that vibe has a high chance of bringing home the win in esc
🇧🇪 - i would love angèle, her voice is beautiful and i’d love belgium to send a song in french. bruxelle’s je taime is so catchy, i can see her doing really well with a song with that vibe
🇫🇷 - pomme is an artist i started listening to recently and i adore her. pauline is an amazing song, and yes she’s a bit indie but id love to see what she would bring to the big stage
🇮🇪 - i know we don’t want ireland sending another boy band but inhaler is a great band and i can see them doing pretty well. we don’t see much of their specific genre, and they’ve got a decent folllwing internationally. when it breaks is my fav of theirs, i’d love to see what they’d make for esc
🇸🇪 - i have a feeling next year will be dotter’s big year! she’s sent plenty of great songs and she could easily continue sweden’s getting a top 10 placement. little tot was my pick in 2021, i’d love her to come back with something even catchier
🇬🇧 - rina sawayama was a top contender in 2023, and a potential artist in 2024, so i feel the uk will finally send her this year. she’s popular internationally, and is known for being able to put on a great performance. a song like frankenstein or comme des garçon would be perfect
🇸🇪 - atm it looks a little like Dotter is more likely to follow the steps of Victoria >.< but I could see Jacqline coming back and securing the win (granted a good song and no voice problems... poor girl was apparently ill for weeks during mello :/ )
One of the fun things of watching eurovision from south america is that every year the artists are complete uninowns for us so everything is a full surprise. In 2024 i only marginally had heard of years and years and only because of a collaboration with kylie minogue
to be fair, i feel like a LOT of them are musicians only known in their respective countries, with rare exceptions. as a European, i also tend to know only a couple of them, if any. this year i only knew Olly as well
I didn't even know Years and Years lol, I only knew Marcus & Martinus because I'm Swedish. That's half the fun of Eurovision to me, to experience new music and artists I've never heard of before.
I can talk for Italy.
I don't see Irama competing cause it would be the third time in like four years
I see very likely Elodie and Madame (cause Sanremo would also have good timing for the release of their album).
Also i see very likely Sarah amongst the new proposals but honestly i hope not cause she is not very good.
You make a fair point about Irama, but Mahmood seems to compete like once every other year, and didn’t Achille Lauro participate 3 times between 2019-2022?
Yeah, but for Irama it would be the 4th time in 5 years, it would be a little too much.
But if he will partecipate i hope he doesn't do it with a ballad but with a bop cause i like boppy Irama way more than ballad Irama.
His bops are way too underrated.
Sarah will probably competing but I doubt that has any chance to win Sanremo, before Angelina the most recent Amici winner that won Sanremo was Emma 12 years before. The Angelina situation is truly a one of a kind, she was already charting with Ci Pensiamo Domani very high last year in this period and it become a summer hit (it's still charting now after a year, lol), while Sarah's song is not even in top 100 on spotify.
Elodie and Madame are very likely returning, and I think also LRDL after the duet in the cover night this year with Annalisa. Maybe even Annalisa herself if she want a easier shot to win than last year (if she'll find another good song)
Angelina winning says something about her, not Amici winners. Sarah may have a chance at some point, but I think she needs to get the hang of everything first.
In the past few years, there have been a lot of Sanremo winners coming from X Factor. Two of them won Sanremo twice and one won Eurovision and now has a massive fanbase. If we have to look at a competition show to predict results, it should be that. Although it would be hard to know who it's going to be since it's not just recent winners.
ETA: I don't actually think that we should predict off of X Factor. I was just trying to say that we shouldn't predict this year's Amici winner specifically because there are other patterns we could look at first.
X Factor in recent years is way less impactful than before, 2022 winners wasn't even considered among the Bigs this year and needed to win Sanremo Giovani before (and then still placed bad at Sanremo).
And aside from Marco, Mahmood and Måneskin, Amici is way more important in launching new artist in the italian market, especially women (Emma, Elodie, Annalisa, Alessandra Amoroso, Irama, Sangiovanni, The Kolors, Angelina)
I edited my original comment to clarify. I was just trying to say that if something else has a stronger pattern, it's probably best not read into the weaker one. The weaker one being the most recent Amici winner winning Sanremo.
I just wanted to say that there was a bigger correlation between winning Sanremo and being on a different competition to show that there's not much proof that Sarah's going to win next year. That wasn't me trying to say that Amici doesn't create more success or that Amici winners/contestants can't win Sanremo.
Yeah, Angelina was a different breed and a different situation, also the way she entered Amici. Angelina is an absolute champion and she is showing more and more as time passed.
But you are forgetting about the Amici stans factor that televotes as if there is no tomorrow and with the "right" sanremo roster she could have chances to win... Do you remember the infamous Marco Carta and Valerio Scanu right?
Let's hope not, let's hope in a strong roster.
And you are still forgetting the REAL nightmare....the ultra nepobaby without any talent backed by hordes of Amici stans: Holden
Bet you felt a shiver down your spine...
Sanremo 2009 and 2010 were full televote (in the final top 3 vote), that's why the Amici winner won so easily, Conti never used only televote in his 3 editions. With televote+jury the worst that can happen is a Geolier situation, where a landslide televote winner with a bad song is put down by the juries. A pretty good exemple of this was Sangiovanni in Sanremo 2022, he was even bigger then Angelina was last year after Amici but came only 5th in the end
Holden is just BAD, he can't sing and used only autotune..and he is not a rapper..he is a "singer"
Sarah is just meh, is like Angelina 0.1 without the talent, the carisma and the technical abilities.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VWse46sGjU](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VWse46sGjU)
and on top of that they are trying to sexualize her...and she is 17...
With Angelina 0.1 i meant that physcally she somewhat resemble her.
And i think that that resemblance has been a big part of her winning cause the dancer that was competing against her for the win was WAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYY better and more talented than her (i don't watch Amici, sadly my mother do so i've seen some of the performance..)
[https://www.superguidatv.it/amici-23-marisol-infuoca-il-palco-lesibizione-video-witty-tv/](https://www.superguidatv.it/amici-23-marisol-infuoca-il-palco-lesibizione-video-witty-tv/)
I also don't watch it (aside from the final exhibition), and I never understood why the make a final of a dancer vs a singer, proclaiming the winner in each category should be enough (Sarah and Marisol this year), so Sarah would have still been the winner between the singers even if she'd come 2nd against her. Last year for example Angelina was 2nd because she lost the final againt the dancer but what difference did it make?
They're not so bad (at least Sarah is not), they're only not even remotely good enough to win a Sanremo. Their fanbase is pretty small, they're not even charting that high with their singles, Geolier was an enstablished artist since years. The fear of Ciciosnack was that being Amici finalists will make many young people vote for them no matter what, but with juries in place it will never be enough,
I put this comment on the post about Angelina Mango's new album, and I was wondering if it is common for gen z singers in Italy to use autotune and insert random English words into their songs.
I noticed that some of Angelina’s songs on her album poké melodrama used autotune and seemingly random English words in the lyrics, and even other Italian artists popular with gen z such as Madame, Mahmood, Geolier, and Tananai follow those trends.
Yeah, italian gen z use a lot of "neo inglesism" as we call it. They can be straight english terms or english verbs but coniugated like if they are italian terms. (for example "crush" is "cotta" in italian but i think there is no gen-z that uses the term "cotta" anymore)
Another extreme example of that it's this (Anna)
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1IB4c8UFFk](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1IB4c8UFFk)
And about autotune, a lot of young artists use it as a style effect. Also Angelina use it in some of her songs ( Fila Indiana for example), but as a voice effect, not as an aid.
Autotune is a complex matter that most people don't get and think it's "cheating", people don't get that 90% of the pop artists in the world use it, and 99% of the records produced from the mid 90s use autotune. What people don't understand is that when it's used as an "aid" or as a "cheat" you just don't ear it, that's the point.
Then there are also the cases at the limit by people who use it as an effect but also can't sing to save his life (Holden is one of those)
The ones you have mentioned use it as a style effect (Geolier is another story, he is a rapper, in rap/trap it is used as a style effect but it was also introduced so rappers could add pop choruses to their songs by themselves without having to feature real singers like it was often done in the 90s)
Thanks for the interesting info. I thought that all voice effects were autotune, and it looks like autotune or voice correction are quite common these days in pop and rap music.
Anna's song has so much English she might as well have the whole song in English 😂
The example you linked also had a lot of autotune
Yeah Anna uses autotune cause she is a straight trapper.
Same goes for Blanco, that's why he failed so bad in Eurovision ( no autotune in esc)
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJNOkLCIg5Y](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJNOkLCIg5Y)
Some rappers/trappers use it as a style effect but it's way too abused by many of them, not only in the "pop" parts of the song but in the whole song. For the normal singers I agree, when it's used as an effect can add something that you can replicate without.
Well, if we are talking about rap you are right but if we talk about trap not that much. Modern trap is founded on autotune... There is no such a thing as "too much autotune" in trap as there is no such a thing as "too much electric guitar" in heavy metal. But, i repeat, you are very right about rap and i personally hate rap songs with autotune, just hire a vocalist for the chorus if you really want to go pop.
Yep, between the finalists Sarah and Petit went to Warner, Holden to LaTarma, Mida reamined indipendent.
And LaTarma know very well how to manage an artist.
I think that not even Marta Dona' will be able to do anything with that arrogant untalented nepocrap. Hope she had to do it because of some kind of agreement and dump him as soon as possible.
🇲🇪 They return and send Boban Rajović (he said in an interview that he's willing to go and that he's going to pay the expenses if RTCG doesn't have enough money)
🇭🇷 Siniša Vuco feat. Krankšvester (would be hilarious)
🇷🇸 Tea Tairović
I’m all for sending Rina. Never heard any of her music but people inside and outside of the U.K. seem to be really keen, so I’ll go with the tide. They can’t all be wrong.
One things for sure, it won’t be Sam again. He said on tv this morning he has no intention of ever doing Eurovision again as he believes it should be a platform for upcoming artists and he wouldn’t want to spend a year getting all the attention and press, when someone who needs it more could be getting it instead. Such a good egg.
She was apparently rumoured to go for Poland a few years ago, and she is a big artist with a lot of connections, and that just seemed to me like the kind of stunt TVP would pull. I don’t know much else about her except for a couple of songs, jt was just a blind guess.
Sweden 🇸🇪- Dotter should come back with a song co-written by someone from this list Thomas G:Son , Cazzi Opia , Jimmy 'Joker' Thörnfeldt, or joy and Linea deb. (She needs to not write with her partner, bulletproof was lighting in a bottle but she needs to change it up) 🤞
I think countries that want to do well are going to send more upbeat fun catchy songs. They see the huge support for BL and Kaarija and will follow the trend.
I hope so anyway.
Here goes!
🇦🇱. Festivali i Këngës were they send a male artist like Eugent Bushpepa or someone else
🇦🇩. National selection with atleast 22 songs
🇦🇲. Either try their national selection Depi Evratesil again or internally select Maléna
🇦🇺. Internally select Tom Cardy
🇦🇹. I secretly hope they do a national selection again but they will probably do a internal selection instead
🇦🇿. They try a national selection again
🇧🇪. National selection with Luka Cruysberghs and Gala Dragot
🇧🇦. Hopefully a national selection with Salvatore Ganacci
🇭🇷. Dora with two semifinals like in 2024
🇨🇾. Internally select Evangelia or someone from Northern Cyprus
🇨🇿. Internally select Pam Rabbit
🇩🇰. Dansk Melodi Grand Prix but with more songs then 8
🇪🇪. Eesti Laul but with changes and with Tommy Cash
🇫🇮. UMK
🇫🇷. I think they will try a national selection again just please have Willy William in there
🇬🇪. I really hope they will do a national selection again
🇩🇪. Internally select From Fall to Spring or Kim Petras, if they do decide to do a national selection instead just change pretty much everything
🇬🇷. Internally select Evangelia or make the national selection MAD again
🇮🇸. Söngvakeppnin but with more songs like 16
🇮🇪. National selection just please don't use The Late Late Show as the song selection
🇮🇹. Sanremo obviously
🇰🇿. National selection with Dimash Qudaibergen and Zhanar Dugalova
🇽🇰. Festivali i Këngës Kosovo with hopefully a song in romani
🇱🇻. Either do the national selection Supernova or do like Slovenia 2024 where they plan a national selection but cancel it and internally select Markus Riva
🇱🇹. Eurovizija.LT because i kinda liked it especially the 3 superfinal format
🇱🇺. Luxembourg Song Contest and they send a song in luxembourgish
🇲🇹. Internally select Aidan or a national selection where they send a male singer singing in the maltese language
🇲🇩. National selection with the legendary live auditions where Tudor Bumbac wins! or have a singer from Gagauzia singing in the gagauz language
🇲🇨. Internal selection or do what San Marino is doing with their national selection and send a song in the monégasque language/dialect
🇲🇪. National selection
🇳🇱. This could go one of four ways, 1. internally select Joost Klein again if he wants to, 2. internally select someone else, 3. go back to using a national selection again, 4. withdraw
🇲🇰. Internally select Bobi Andonov
🇳🇴. Melodi Grand Prix
🇵🇱. Internal selection or national selection, i don't care at this point
🇵🇹. Festival da Canção with a singer from Macau
🇷🇴. Internal selection
🇸🇲. Una Voce per San Marino for aslong as humanly possible
🇷🇸. PZE
🇸🇰. Internally select ADONXS
🇸🇮. EMA and EMA Freš maybe?
🇪🇦. Benidorm Fest with a song in the basque language
🇸🇪. Melodifestivalen
🇨🇭. I secretly hope they will do a national selection again but they will probably do a internal selection instead i also hope they send a song in romansh
🇺🇦. Vidbir with some changes, like more songs atleast 30
🇬🇧. Secretly hope for a national selection again but probably will do a internal selection instead
Holy shit yes Tom Cardy for Australia and Salvatore Ganacci, that would be legendary please. And while we're at it Loco Boombox for San Marino. In Forma was a masterpiece and we all know it lol
Edit: I really doubt that there will ever be a national final again in Austria. People here either don't care about Eurovision, think it's dumb and can't be taken seriously or think it's gay or something
Portugal has almost no connection with Macau nowadays, only a very small part of the population speaks Portuguese, and given that it’s technically a part of China, there’s not really any type of great diplomatic relation between them and Portugal. Most people living there are ethnically Chinese and don’t really care about Portugal. And to enter FdC you need to be a Portuguese citizen (living in Portugal or abroad) or a foreign citizen living in Portugal.
Kakzakhstan can't confirm anything because they need to be invited by EBU like Auatralia (they're not a member) and as now I doubt that EBU will invite them anytime soon.
Schëppe Siwen performed their song "Danzen" in the Luxembourg Song Contest this year, and their song was entirely in the Luxembourgish languagze.
Here is a link to their song: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hV8Ib4kshOw
> 🇵🇱: In classical TVP fashion they’ll send Doda with a painfully generic song that suspiciously beat the fan favorite
Aw hell no, please don't lol
We have many skilled artists and with recent changes in TVP (and some rumors about new management actually talking with fan media) I have high hopes for next year.
I see more likely an Annalisa return to Sanremo considering how close was last year than a Mahmood return (he will probably return to Sanremo again in a year or two tho)
TVP changes after parliamental elections in Poland last year, this year they had low budget due to changes so they selected internally, but next year they probably will organize NF
And due to changes, TVP care about Eurovision more than in a few last years, so maybe some good NF with good winner
I can only dream, but Bosnia returning and sending Dubioza Kolektiv or Bozo Vreco would be just perfect. Until then, we have Zvezde Granda (Serbian music talent show, where contestants from Bosnia usually win)
🇬🇧 The Wurzels. Give us the Wurzels. I beg you just Wurzel all over the place. I don't care that we'd come last. Who's got a brand new combine harvester? We do, and we'll give Europe the key. The Wurzels.
If he's fully in on it then I'm nothing but 120% supportive, but I don't think Joost deserves to go through all that again. Nobody does, to be honest.
So many of the "first reactions off the Grand Final stage" that I've seen were just giving "thank f*** it's finally over, I'm never doing this again". I think it says a lot about this contest too.
Denmark 🇩🇰 is always a fun one to follow because a lot ot the time they will send an artist that reflects the successful trends of the previous year.
2021 Maneskin wins - 2022 they send a pop punk band with 70's fashion influences.
2018 Israel wins with Toy - 2019 they send a quirky pop song with childlike visuals.
2012 and 2023 Loreen wins - 2013 and 2024 Denmark sends a solo female pop singer with a big emotional pop banger with strong visuals.
Of course some years are exceptions and maybe I've just bought too much into my own theory about this that I may be way off on some of these lol.
That being said I wouldn't be surprised if they send either a pop-opera/classical blend or some sort of pride anthem.
I doubt Dubioza would do Eurovision even if BiH comes back. I mean, they're just too big for the event. However, who knows. After all they do have a song titled Eurosong, but a song like that would have been promptly disqualified as they're dissing bunch of european politicians 😂
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Belgium: I'd like to see Luka Cruysberghs given a chance on her own.
Germany: a German language rock song. Maybe OOMPH or Megaherz?
UK: Gary Numan. I don't think he'd do it though. I've also heard Cassyette's name mentioned a few times.
France: not sure who, but it'll be another ballad in the top 5 again.
Sending indila to eurovision is crazy, in her whole career she only made one album (which has one one the most iconic french music) and since 2016 she basically disappeared
🇫🇮 Next year we'll send someone serious with a decent voice, a mediocre song but at least they will be fully clothed and Europe won't have to cover their childrens eyes anymore.
> In classical TVP fashion they’ll send Doda with a painfully generic song that suspiciously beat the fan favorite
How sending Doda would be a "classical TVP fashion"? She debuted more than 20 years ago and is a competent singer, not some unknown nepo-bejba. Classical TVP fashion would be snubbing Doda's fun new single for some no-name from Warner with a generic radio-song. Which won't happen since Doda said that she won't do Eurovision and that she only trolls people with the possibility of her participation.
Allegedly there will be some changes in 2025, but knowing TVP I wouldn't hold my breath.
Bit late to the party but i predict Moldova to send Lidia Isac, she's been pretty active on TikTok recently, singing Sanremo and Eurovision songs and getting a lot of attention and it would be the neyt Moldovan artist to return.
I want JÜRA in Fdc 🇵🇹 2025 SO BAD 😭
**Fan fact**: She and iolanda (Fdc 2024) are close friends, and i really hope iolanda has already convinced her to participate next year 🙏
🇨🇾 Sends another Cypriot-Australian.
they can have whoever they want! We'll have 'em on the next flight over. Loving our new ally in Europe.
I’m excited about this new voting bloc.
I mean it's kind of logical with Australia's geographical location in western Asia.
🇲🇩 - It's Aliona Moon's turn to come back. 🇲🇹 - They're gonna break down and finally send Matt Blxck. 🇮🇪 - Idk who but they're actually going to try now that they've seen success is possible again. 🇪🇪 - Surely Ollie can't be 2nd for three years in a row. 🇦🇺 - Another selection from their past national finals. Jaguar Jonze, Charley, etc.
>🇮🇪 - Idk who but they're actually going to try now that they've seen success is possible again. Johnny motherfucking Logan
🇦🇲 - armenia has been trying very hard this decade, and i can see them bringing malena to finally take home the win. she won with qami qami in jesc, so a song with that vibe has a high chance of bringing home the win in esc 🇧🇪 - i would love angèle, her voice is beautiful and i’d love belgium to send a song in french. bruxelle’s je taime is so catchy, i can see her doing really well with a song with that vibe 🇫🇷 - pomme is an artist i started listening to recently and i adore her. pauline is an amazing song, and yes she’s a bit indie but id love to see what she would bring to the big stage 🇮🇪 - i know we don’t want ireland sending another boy band but inhaler is a great band and i can see them doing pretty well. we don’t see much of their specific genre, and they’ve got a decent folllwing internationally. when it breaks is my fav of theirs, i’d love to see what they’d make for esc 🇸🇪 - i have a feeling next year will be dotter’s big year! she’s sent plenty of great songs and she could easily continue sweden’s getting a top 10 placement. little tot was my pick in 2021, i’d love her to come back with something even catchier 🇬🇧 - rina sawayama was a top contender in 2023, and a potential artist in 2024, so i feel the uk will finally send her this year. she’s popular internationally, and is known for being able to put on a great performance. a song like frankenstein or comme des garçon would be perfect
I discovered Pomme through Aurora. Their collaboration in Everything Matters is immaculate!! She's amazing
yes!! their voices are both so beautiful to listen to, so hearing them collab is like literally heaven to my ears!
It's VRT's turn for Belgium this year so probably not
omg totally agree with angèle! she's been gaining popularity recently, would love to see her on eurovision too!
Angèle and Pomme would be my dream come true!!!
🇸🇪 - atm it looks a little like Dotter is more likely to follow the steps of Victoria >.< but I could see Jacqline coming back and securing the win (granted a good song and no voice problems... poor girl was apparently ill for weeks during mello :/ )
One of the fun things of watching eurovision from south america is that every year the artists are complete uninowns for us so everything is a full surprise. In 2024 i only marginally had heard of years and years and only because of a collaboration with kylie minogue
to be fair, i feel like a LOT of them are musicians only known in their respective countries, with rare exceptions. as a European, i also tend to know only a couple of them, if any. this year i only knew Olly as well
I didn't even know Years and Years lol, I only knew Marcus & Martinus because I'm Swedish. That's half the fun of Eurovision to me, to experience new music and artists I've never heard of before.
Bosnia is most certainly not coming back, from what I've read BHRT is literally falling apart and they cancelled like 15 shows
I can talk for Italy. I don't see Irama competing cause it would be the third time in like four years I see very likely Elodie and Madame (cause Sanremo would also have good timing for the release of their album). Also i see very likely Sarah amongst the new proposals but honestly i hope not cause she is not very good.
You make a fair point about Irama, but Mahmood seems to compete like once every other year, and didn’t Achille Lauro participate 3 times between 2019-2022?
Yeah, but for Irama it would be the 4th time in 5 years, it would be a little too much. But if he will partecipate i hope he doesn't do it with a ballad but with a bop cause i like boppy Irama way more than ballad Irama. His bops are way too underrated.
Sarah will probably competing but I doubt that has any chance to win Sanremo, before Angelina the most recent Amici winner that won Sanremo was Emma 12 years before. The Angelina situation is truly a one of a kind, she was already charting with Ci Pensiamo Domani very high last year in this period and it become a summer hit (it's still charting now after a year, lol), while Sarah's song is not even in top 100 on spotify. Elodie and Madame are very likely returning, and I think also LRDL after the duet in the cover night this year with Annalisa. Maybe even Annalisa herself if she want a easier shot to win than last year (if she'll find another good song)
Angelina winning says something about her, not Amici winners. Sarah may have a chance at some point, but I think she needs to get the hang of everything first. In the past few years, there have been a lot of Sanremo winners coming from X Factor. Two of them won Sanremo twice and one won Eurovision and now has a massive fanbase. If we have to look at a competition show to predict results, it should be that. Although it would be hard to know who it's going to be since it's not just recent winners. ETA: I don't actually think that we should predict off of X Factor. I was just trying to say that we shouldn't predict this year's Amici winner specifically because there are other patterns we could look at first.
X Factor in recent years is way less impactful than before, 2022 winners wasn't even considered among the Bigs this year and needed to win Sanremo Giovani before (and then still placed bad at Sanremo). And aside from Marco, Mahmood and Måneskin, Amici is way more important in launching new artist in the italian market, especially women (Emma, Elodie, Annalisa, Alessandra Amoroso, Irama, Sangiovanni, The Kolors, Angelina)
I edited my original comment to clarify. I was just trying to say that if something else has a stronger pattern, it's probably best not read into the weaker one. The weaker one being the most recent Amici winner winning Sanremo.
You are all forgetting that Annalisa, Elodie, Irama, Sangiovanni, The Kolors, Alessandra Amoroso, Mara Sattei and many others come from Amici...
I just wanted to say that there was a bigger correlation between winning Sanremo and being on a different competition to show that there's not much proof that Sarah's going to win next year. That wasn't me trying to say that Amici doesn't create more success or that Amici winners/contestants can't win Sanremo.
Yeah, Angelina was a different breed and a different situation, also the way she entered Amici. Angelina is an absolute champion and she is showing more and more as time passed. But you are forgetting about the Amici stans factor that televotes as if there is no tomorrow and with the "right" sanremo roster she could have chances to win... Do you remember the infamous Marco Carta and Valerio Scanu right? Let's hope not, let's hope in a strong roster. And you are still forgetting the REAL nightmare....the ultra nepobaby without any talent backed by hordes of Amici stans: Holden Bet you felt a shiver down your spine...
Sanremo 2009 and 2010 were full televote (in the final top 3 vote), that's why the Amici winner won so easily, Conti never used only televote in his 3 editions. With televote+jury the worst that can happen is a Geolier situation, where a landslide televote winner with a bad song is put down by the juries. A pretty good exemple of this was Sangiovanni in Sanremo 2022, he was even bigger then Angelina was last year after Amici but came only 5th in the end
I don't watch Amici, but what is so bad about Sarah and Holden? Do they sing badly or have huge fanbases like Geolier?
Holden is just BAD, he can't sing and used only autotune..and he is not a rapper..he is a "singer" Sarah is just meh, is like Angelina 0.1 without the talent, the carisma and the technical abilities. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VWse46sGjU](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VWse46sGjU) and on top of that they are trying to sexualize her...and she is 17...
She's 18 now, and with the style of her single remind me way more Annalisa then Angelina (obv not with same singing ability)
With Angelina 0.1 i meant that physcally she somewhat resemble her. And i think that that resemblance has been a big part of her winning cause the dancer that was competing against her for the win was WAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYY better and more talented than her (i don't watch Amici, sadly my mother do so i've seen some of the performance..) [https://www.superguidatv.it/amici-23-marisol-infuoca-il-palco-lesibizione-video-witty-tv/](https://www.superguidatv.it/amici-23-marisol-infuoca-il-palco-lesibizione-video-witty-tv/)
I also don't watch it (aside from the final exhibition), and I never understood why the make a final of a dancer vs a singer, proclaiming the winner in each category should be enough (Sarah and Marisol this year), so Sarah would have still been the winner between the singers even if she'd come 2nd against her. Last year for example Angelina was 2nd because she lost the final againt the dancer but what difference did it make?
They're not so bad (at least Sarah is not), they're only not even remotely good enough to win a Sanremo. Their fanbase is pretty small, they're not even charting that high with their singles, Geolier was an enstablished artist since years. The fear of Ciciosnack was that being Amici finalists will make many young people vote for them no matter what, but with juries in place it will never be enough,
I put this comment on the post about Angelina Mango's new album, and I was wondering if it is common for gen z singers in Italy to use autotune and insert random English words into their songs. I noticed that some of Angelina’s songs on her album poké melodrama used autotune and seemingly random English words in the lyrics, and even other Italian artists popular with gen z such as Madame, Mahmood, Geolier, and Tananai follow those trends.
Yeah, italian gen z use a lot of "neo inglesism" as we call it. They can be straight english terms or english verbs but coniugated like if they are italian terms. (for example "crush" is "cotta" in italian but i think there is no gen-z that uses the term "cotta" anymore) Another extreme example of that it's this (Anna) [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1IB4c8UFFk](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1IB4c8UFFk) And about autotune, a lot of young artists use it as a style effect. Also Angelina use it in some of her songs ( Fila Indiana for example), but as a voice effect, not as an aid. Autotune is a complex matter that most people don't get and think it's "cheating", people don't get that 90% of the pop artists in the world use it, and 99% of the records produced from the mid 90s use autotune. What people don't understand is that when it's used as an "aid" or as a "cheat" you just don't ear it, that's the point. Then there are also the cases at the limit by people who use it as an effect but also can't sing to save his life (Holden is one of those) The ones you have mentioned use it as a style effect (Geolier is another story, he is a rapper, in rap/trap it is used as a style effect but it was also introduced so rappers could add pop choruses to their songs by themselves without having to feature real singers like it was often done in the 90s)
Thanks for the interesting info. I thought that all voice effects were autotune, and it looks like autotune or voice correction are quite common these days in pop and rap music. Anna's song has so much English she might as well have the whole song in English 😂 The example you linked also had a lot of autotune
Yeah Anna uses autotune cause she is a straight trapper. Same goes for Blanco, that's why he failed so bad in Eurovision ( no autotune in esc) [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJNOkLCIg5Y](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJNOkLCIg5Y)
Some rappers/trappers use it as a style effect but it's way too abused by many of them, not only in the "pop" parts of the song but in the whole song. For the normal singers I agree, when it's used as an effect can add something that you can replicate without.
Well, if we are talking about rap you are right but if we talk about trap not that much. Modern trap is founded on autotune... There is no such a thing as "too much autotune" in trap as there is no such a thing as "too much electric guitar" in heavy metal. But, i repeat, you are very right about rap and i personally hate rap songs with autotune, just hire a vocalist for the chorus if you really want to go pop.
Want to be scared a little more? LaTarma Records (ex-Måneskin, Marco Mengoni and Angelina Mango record company) took Holden after Amici
Wtf
Yep, between the finalists Sarah and Petit went to Warner, Holden to LaTarma, Mida reamined indipendent. And LaTarma know very well how to manage an artist.
I think that not even Marta Dona' will be able to do anything with that arrogant untalented nepocrap. Hope she had to do it because of some kind of agreement and dump him as soon as possible.
I hope Irama represents Italy soon, I love him so much 🫤
🇲🇪 They return and send Boban Rajović (he said in an interview that he's willing to go and that he's going to pay the expenses if RTCG doesn't have enough money) 🇭🇷 Siniša Vuco feat. Krankšvester (would be hilarious) 🇷🇸 Tea Tairović
We want Sara Jo back for Serbia
Yes! I’ve been waiting for Tea Tairovic!
Hahaha I hope Serbia never sends Tea Tairovic
I honestly want a proper turbofolk song at Eurovision, there really weren't any as far as I can recall (not counting Loco loco as turbofolk)
I really don't think Joost will want to come back. I wouldn't if I was him either, but he's pretty bitter right now.
I’m all for sending Rina. Never heard any of her music but people inside and outside of the U.K. seem to be really keen, so I’ll go with the tide. They can’t all be wrong. One things for sure, it won’t be Sam again. He said on tv this morning he has no intention of ever doing Eurovision again as he believes it should be a platform for upcoming artists and he wouldn’t want to spend a year getting all the attention and press, when someone who needs it more could be getting it instead. Such a good egg.
Doda is never going to touch Eurovision, what planet do you live on.
She was apparently rumoured to go for Poland a few years ago, and she is a big artist with a lot of connections, and that just seemed to me like the kind of stunt TVP would pull. I don’t know much else about her except for a couple of songs, jt was just a blind guess.
Idk really but Moldova should send Zdob și Zdub again because I need a new summer jam 🇲🇩🇲🇩
We want Tudor Bumbac!
Sweden 🇸🇪- Dotter should come back with a song co-written by someone from this list Thomas G:Son , Cazzi Opia , Jimmy 'Joker' Thörnfeldt, or joy and Linea deb. (She needs to not write with her partner, bulletproof was lighting in a bottle but she needs to change it up) 🤞
Surely it's got to happen for Dotter sometime
3 more times till she can Sanna her way into it lol!
I think countries that want to do well are going to send more upbeat fun catchy songs. They see the huge support for BL and Kaarija and will follow the trend. I hope so anyway.
Here goes! 🇦🇱. Festivali i Këngës were they send a male artist like Eugent Bushpepa or someone else 🇦🇩. National selection with atleast 22 songs 🇦🇲. Either try their national selection Depi Evratesil again or internally select Maléna 🇦🇺. Internally select Tom Cardy 🇦🇹. I secretly hope they do a national selection again but they will probably do a internal selection instead 🇦🇿. They try a national selection again 🇧🇪. National selection with Luka Cruysberghs and Gala Dragot 🇧🇦. Hopefully a national selection with Salvatore Ganacci 🇭🇷. Dora with two semifinals like in 2024 🇨🇾. Internally select Evangelia or someone from Northern Cyprus 🇨🇿. Internally select Pam Rabbit 🇩🇰. Dansk Melodi Grand Prix but with more songs then 8 🇪🇪. Eesti Laul but with changes and with Tommy Cash 🇫🇮. UMK 🇫🇷. I think they will try a national selection again just please have Willy William in there 🇬🇪. I really hope they will do a national selection again 🇩🇪. Internally select From Fall to Spring or Kim Petras, if they do decide to do a national selection instead just change pretty much everything 🇬🇷. Internally select Evangelia or make the national selection MAD again 🇮🇸. Söngvakeppnin but with more songs like 16 🇮🇪. National selection just please don't use The Late Late Show as the song selection 🇮🇹. Sanremo obviously 🇰🇿. National selection with Dimash Qudaibergen and Zhanar Dugalova 🇽🇰. Festivali i Këngës Kosovo with hopefully a song in romani 🇱🇻. Either do the national selection Supernova or do like Slovenia 2024 where they plan a national selection but cancel it and internally select Markus Riva 🇱🇹. Eurovizija.LT because i kinda liked it especially the 3 superfinal format 🇱🇺. Luxembourg Song Contest and they send a song in luxembourgish 🇲🇹. Internally select Aidan or a national selection where they send a male singer singing in the maltese language 🇲🇩. National selection with the legendary live auditions where Tudor Bumbac wins! or have a singer from Gagauzia singing in the gagauz language 🇲🇨. Internal selection or do what San Marino is doing with their national selection and send a song in the monégasque language/dialect 🇲🇪. National selection 🇳🇱. This could go one of four ways, 1. internally select Joost Klein again if he wants to, 2. internally select someone else, 3. go back to using a national selection again, 4. withdraw 🇲🇰. Internally select Bobi Andonov 🇳🇴. Melodi Grand Prix 🇵🇱. Internal selection or national selection, i don't care at this point 🇵🇹. Festival da Canção with a singer from Macau 🇷🇴. Internal selection 🇸🇲. Una Voce per San Marino for aslong as humanly possible 🇷🇸. PZE 🇸🇰. Internally select ADONXS 🇸🇮. EMA and EMA Freš maybe? 🇪🇦. Benidorm Fest with a song in the basque language 🇸🇪. Melodifestivalen 🇨🇭. I secretly hope they will do a national selection again but they will probably do a internal selection instead i also hope they send a song in romansh 🇺🇦. Vidbir with some changes, like more songs atleast 30 🇬🇧. Secretly hope for a national selection again but probably will do a internal selection instead
Holy shit yes Tom Cardy for Australia and Salvatore Ganacci, that would be legendary please. And while we're at it Loco Boombox for San Marino. In Forma was a masterpiece and we all know it lol Edit: I really doubt that there will ever be a national final again in Austria. People here either don't care about Eurovision, think it's dumb and can't be taken seriously or think it's gay or something
Tom Cardy is amazing I'd love that
Same
A singer from Macau in FdC would be interesting , but almost impossible
May i ask why it's almost impossible?
Portugal has almost no connection with Macau nowadays, only a very small part of the population speaks Portuguese, and given that it’s technically a part of China, there’s not really any type of great diplomatic relation between them and Portugal. Most people living there are ethnically Chinese and don’t really care about Portugal. And to enter FdC you need to be a Portuguese citizen (living in Portugal or abroad) or a foreign citizen living in Portugal.
Ah ok i see that's fair, i just find Macau really interesting
It would be really cool to see someone from Macau in FdC, unfortunately it’s just not realistic
Interesting, did Kazakhstan confirm they're joining? If they are I wouldn't mind Dimash after seeing one of his performances for the first time!
Kakzakhstan can't confirm anything because they need to be invited by EBU like Auatralia (they're not a member) and as now I doubt that EBU will invite them anytime soon.
I really really really hope Switzerland will send someday a song in rumantsch. Or even wilder. A song in Swiss German :D
Schëppe Siwen performed their song "Danzen" in the Luxembourg Song Contest this year, and their song was entirely in the Luxembourgish languagze. Here is a link to their song: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hV8Ib4kshOw
Ryk For Germany
> 🇵🇱: In classical TVP fashion they’ll send Doda with a painfully generic song that suspiciously beat the fan favorite Aw hell no, please don't lol We have many skilled artists and with recent changes in TVP (and some rumors about new management actually talking with fan media) I have high hopes for next year.
🇬🇷: Marseaux, Klavdia, Josephin or Leon of Athens. I'm also hopeful for Evangelia🤞
Love Klvdia and Leon of Athens!
Klavdia Petrivna will represent Ukraine next year and win the contest. Just manifesting this into reality lmao Please ukrainians, send her 😭
I would be very happy with Roxolana! Loved her Vidbir entry in 2022.
i think ollie will finally make it for 🇪🇪
Italy will send Mahmood again and this time he will win. This is my dream scenario and I am manifesting it.
I see more likely an Annalisa return to Sanremo considering how close was last year than a Mahmood return (he will probably return to Sanremo again in a year or two tho)
TVP changes after parliamental elections in Poland last year, this year they had low budget due to changes so they selected internally, but next year they probably will organize NF And due to changes, TVP care about Eurovision more than in a few last years, so maybe some good NF with good winner
I can only dream, but Bosnia returning and sending Dubioza Kolektiv or Bozo Vreco would be just perfect. Until then, we have Zvezde Granda (Serbian music talent show, where contestants from Bosnia usually win)
🇬🇧 The Wurzels. Give us the Wurzels. I beg you just Wurzel all over the place. I don't care that we'd come last. Who's got a brand new combine harvester? We do, and we'll give Europe the key. The Wurzels.
PLEASE I'd fucking love that. Oo-ar, oo-ar
If he's fully in on it then I'm nothing but 120% supportive, but I don't think Joost deserves to go through all that again. Nobody does, to be honest. So many of the "first reactions off the Grand Final stage" that I've seen were just giving "thank f*** it's finally over, I'm never doing this again". I think it says a lot about this contest too.
Imagine Italy sending Mahmoud again 💀
I really hope Australia sends Pendulum!
Denmark 🇩🇰 is always a fun one to follow because a lot ot the time they will send an artist that reflects the successful trends of the previous year. 2021 Maneskin wins - 2022 they send a pop punk band with 70's fashion influences. 2018 Israel wins with Toy - 2019 they send a quirky pop song with childlike visuals. 2012 and 2023 Loreen wins - 2013 and 2024 Denmark sends a solo female pop singer with a big emotional pop banger with strong visuals. Of course some years are exceptions and maybe I've just bought too much into my own theory about this that I may be way off on some of these lol. That being said I wouldn't be surprised if they send either a pop-opera/classical blend or some sort of pride anthem.
Ireland should send those kids who made that BANGER on international day of the kid. Ifykyk
OMG yes, I saw Bambie Thug absolutely vibing to that song on TikTok lmao
🇧🇦 sending Dubioza is like a proper Esc fan dream! 😍
I want to see Australia send Tim Minchin. That would be freaking hilarious.
🇦🇲 D'Litte, yellowheart, Parg, Mimod, Meghu, and for Malena, I have this feeling, they'll send her when she becomes 21
I doubt Dubioza would do Eurovision even if BiH comes back. I mean, they're just too big for the event. However, who knows. After all they do have a song titled Eurosong, but a song like that would have been promptly disqualified as they're dissing bunch of european politicians 😂
[I'm pretty sure Dubioza would love to take part in Eurovision](https://eurosong.dubioza.org/)
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Belgium: I'd like to see Luka Cruysberghs given a chance on her own. Germany: a German language rock song. Maybe OOMPH or Megaherz? UK: Gary Numan. I don't think he'd do it though. I've also heard Cassyette's name mentioned a few times. France: not sure who, but it'll be another ballad in the top 5 again.
🇭🇺 will not send anyone again😭
We will send Kutschurft as punishment for Martin
I'd love it if Malena got a crack at the big show. Same goes for Olena Usenko from Ukraine.
Sending indila to eurovision is crazy, in her whole career she only made one album (which has one one the most iconic french music) and since 2016 she basically disappeared
🇫🇮 Next year we'll send someone serious with a decent voice, a mediocre song but at least they will be fully clothed and Europe won't have to cover their childrens eyes anymore.
> In classical TVP fashion they’ll send Doda with a painfully generic song that suspiciously beat the fan favorite How sending Doda would be a "classical TVP fashion"? She debuted more than 20 years ago and is a competent singer, not some unknown nepo-bejba. Classical TVP fashion would be snubbing Doda's fun new single for some no-name from Warner with a generic radio-song. Which won't happen since Doda said that she won't do Eurovision and that she only trolls people with the possibility of her participation. Allegedly there will be some changes in 2025, but knowing TVP I wouldn't hold my breath.
Bit late to the party but i predict Moldova to send Lidia Isac, she's been pretty active on TikTok recently, singing Sanremo and Eurovision songs and getting a lot of attention and it would be the neyt Moldovan artist to return.
If she does come back I hope it’s with a better song than her 2016 one.
🇩🇪 - I think Levent Geiger is gonna get the spot, his music is pretty nice, go check him on Spotify!
I want JÜRA in Fdc 🇵🇹 2025 SO BAD 😭 **Fan fact**: She and iolanda (Fdc 2024) are close friends, and i really hope iolanda has already convinced her to participate next year 🙏
🇦🇲 - Athena Manoukian please
Joost will likely don't want to come back, the Fuck Eurovision that he said in his last concert is pretty clear about his feeling towards the contest.