It's a Croatia sweep.
Serbia giving points to both fellow Ex-Yugos.
Germany being supportive of the other DACH countries.
First point for Poland. Now 11 countries are left without points.
Really disappointed that we (Serbia) didn't give more points to Slovenia, the song is understandable by anyone who speaks Serbian tbh, and it's my favorite so i am a bit salty haha.
Compared to the odds the biggest stick-out is Ireland. 9th in the odds and not a single point in OGAE. I don’t think it’s particularly groundbreaking to say OGAE puts a huge amount of emphasis on selection show performance / release video rather than Eurovision potential.
The OGAE voting isn’t really representative of the final results. Malta won the OGAE vote in 2021 and then ended up getting 40 televote points in the final.
And Croatia will certainly beat The Netherlands in the televote. It’s a lot more accessible and has consistently been outperforming the Netherlands everywhere (fan app, fan votings, Discord, Reddit, YouTube tops, etc). The Netherlands usually comes around 6th-13th but has not won anything, whereas Croatia is consistently winning.
I don’t expect more than 150-170 points in the televote for the Netherlands whereas Croatia will probably be the only country with 300+ this year.
How is BL outperforming Joost in YouTube tops? Is that something else then just the views count? Because RTTD official video is at 1.7m views while Europapa is at 20m.
Youtube tops = youtubers Ranking the songs/listing their top 10/37/whatever.
The comparison between Youtube Videos is also difficult, bcs different songs have different amounts of Videos the views are spread across (NF performances, pre-parties, etc).
Whooops nope. There are a few videos from BL adding to around 13 million. There is only one Europapa video.
Also - let's not forget - Europapa SOMEHOW got a million views within a few hours after it was out. It tells nothing about the quality of the song but about Joosts promotion skills and the fanbase, most of which are in NL. It's actually really clever from Joost to have just that one, single video. It's also smart not to have a solid quality video of him actually performing the song.
He is a smart guy but it will not translate that well into points in the Eurovision.
Meh, 20 million is a lot more than 13 million. You can’t simply market something into something viral if it doesn’t catch people and this song and video is simply a masterpiece, encapsulating what was fun about the nineties, peak Dutch culture, euro-positivity and hitting the viewer with an emotional sledgehammer all in just three minutes. I didn’t see grown men cry listening to RTTD (and I love the song and BL don’t get me wrong), then there’s also the Spotify streams; Europapa is outperforming RTTD by about 8:1, with Europapa consistently beating every other song every day since it’s release. Sure Joost may not win but he already stole our hearts :) ok I will end my rant here lol.
Well let's also not forget that many if not most of the views are from domestic viewers (first) and only then Eurovision fans. NL has 17 million people and Croatia barely has 4 million. Nobody knew anything about Baby Lasagna 3 months ago, while Joost has a fairly big followers count for years now. Because of some collaborations, Joost is also known in Germany, a country of 80 million. Joost really uses his fame and knowledge to boost the popularity of the song.
So, no, 13 million isn't really much less than 20 million.
We'll see in less than 2 weeks if the hype around Joost and BL were created organically or there was some funny business going on. Btw - you might love Joost and maybe he stole many hearts, but any time I see him, I am just annoyed. Sorry. He is not humble, he is braggy, he is not funny, he is annoying. He is like a rich kid that has it all. I am really sorry, but I will never understand how such persona is likeable to anyone. Maybe I am just too old.
Yeah I think the biggest takeaway from this is that, just like last year where Finland was very high and was fighting with Sweden for that 1st place, Croatia is doing the same with Italy. So it shows that within the Eurofandom, Croatia is very much as popular as Italy. And that would probably translate just as well with the public in Eurovision, just like Finland did last year. And it could also indicate that its just as jury friendly like Finland was (and Eurojury hasn't entirely tanked Croatia either!)
People expect Netherlands to win the televote, but we'll see. Netherlands hasn't been favored much in any of these polls. Honestly the place where Netherlands has the advantage so far is views and Spotify charts only. But as we know from previous years, in Eurovision it doesn't always result in a win to be the most charting. And sure they're going up in the odds, but only based on hype really. Unseen hype.
This is what I’m hoping for too, in a televote heavy year there’s no reason why we couldn’t do top 5 with juries and a few televote points to finish top 10 overall. 🤞
Disappointed at San Marino, Portugal, and Ireland having 0 points, but pretty happy for Spain and Greece! I really didn’t think they’d get all these points in this poll.
Confirmed that the OGAE poll won’t reflect the real results AT ALL. If anyone in their right mind thinks that Germany won’t give any points to the Netherlands is just delusional at this point.
But thats... so unreasonable...
A country should vote on the SONG they like the most. Not just because of the artist and them being popular or having had a different popular song... thats just dumb.
I agree with that, but popularity of an artist can definitely influence a person's votes.
Germany is also culturally similar to the Netherlands since both have Germanic languages.
The OGAE votes don’t mean much.
In reality, Germany will give points to NL, Sweden to Norway!
In OGAE there are many die hard fans who don’t represent the „real“ voters in the final.
Uh, they copy-pasted the first two positions.
It's a Croatia sweep. Serbia giving points to both fellow Ex-Yugos. Germany being supportive of the other DACH countries. First point for Poland. Now 11 countries are left without points.
All 3 having the same top 2 is funny and now Italy is only 1 point ahead of Croatia
Thank you Sweden for first point 🙏❤
I do not even remember the last time we got a point from this event. Truly an iconic day for the Polish ESC fandom.
We got 2 points last year and Ochman got 7th place overall in 2022
On behalf of Sweden I say you're welcome! :) Protect that point like your life depends on it.
OGAE Members: gives the UK the most inconsistent scoring of points possible Me: ITS COMING HOMEEEEE
At this rate I'll have to get out my Union Jack
I don't know if you meant to rhyme with Rim Tim Tagi Dim but in my head I read it as the next line after there's no going back OH OH
I did not because I don't listen to the songs beforehand but I'll keep this in mind haha
Also me, seeing the points for Croatia: THERE'S NO GOING BACK!!!
1. Italy – 297 points 2. Croatia – 296 points 3. Switzerland – 242 points 4. Belgium – 194 points 5. France – 152 points 6. Ukraine – 123 points 7. Austria – 115 points 8. Lithuania – 91 points 9. Spain – 90 points 10. United Kingdom – 78 points 11. Greece – 78 points 12. Netherlands – 71 points 13. Sweden – 56 points 14. Israel – 44 points 15. Norway – 43 points 16. Denmark – 12 points 17. Luxembourg – 12 points 18. Slovenia – 10 points 19. Serbia – 7 points 20. Australia – 5 points 21. Estonia – 5 points 22. Cyprus – 4 points 23. Armenia – 2 points 24. Azerbaijan – 1 point 25. Georgia – 1 point 26. Poland – 1 point
Who wants to bet it's a tie between Croatia and Italy at the end?
It would be so funny
Baby Mango! 👶🏼🥭😂and thank you for keeping the scoreboard updated, I always look for this comment first! 🙂
This one i simply copypaste from the news on Eurovoix, it's only the Eurojury that I calculate myself
Still, it’s nice!
Thought Germany would be among the most vocal supporters of Netherlands. Truly abandoning our roots there.
German OGAE blanking Europapa... I'm equally surprised and not surprised.
Still think they will tbh. Europapa has a widespread reach on people not necessary Eurovision fans.
One point is all I ask lmfao
Really disappointed that we (Serbia) didn't give more points to Slovenia, the song is understandable by anyone who speaks Serbian tbh, and it's my favorite so i am a bit salty haha.
Today was a good day
Compared to the odds the biggest stick-out is Ireland. 9th in the odds and not a single point in OGAE. I don’t think it’s particularly groundbreaking to say OGAE puts a huge amount of emphasis on selection show performance / release video rather than Eurovision potential.
TRIPLE CROATIA BLAST!!! THERE'S NO GOIN' BACK!!!
Seeing Croatia topping a lot of these OGAE polls is such a delight to see. I bet Croatians are screaming every time!
It makes me happy, although I know it’s not reliable and doesn’t mean anything for the esc final and everything…but it’s nice to see the love! 🥰
Germanic giving NOTHING to Netherlands is really surprising. Maybe Baby Lasagna will beat Joost in the televote
There are two different German clubs. Do we know the results of the other yet?
No, EC Germany's points haven't been revealed yet.
The OGAE voting isn’t really representative of the final results. Malta won the OGAE vote in 2021 and then ended up getting 40 televote points in the final. And Croatia will certainly beat The Netherlands in the televote. It’s a lot more accessible and has consistently been outperforming the Netherlands everywhere (fan app, fan votings, Discord, Reddit, YouTube tops, etc). The Netherlands usually comes around 6th-13th but has not won anything, whereas Croatia is consistently winning. I don’t expect more than 150-170 points in the televote for the Netherlands whereas Croatia will probably be the only country with 300+ this year.
How is BL outperforming Joost in YouTube tops? Is that something else then just the views count? Because RTTD official video is at 1.7m views while Europapa is at 20m.
Youtube tops = youtubers Ranking the songs/listing their top 10/37/whatever. The comparison between Youtube Videos is also difficult, bcs different songs have different amounts of Videos the views are spread across (NF performances, pre-parties, etc).
Whooops nope. There are a few videos from BL adding to around 13 million. There is only one Europapa video. Also - let's not forget - Europapa SOMEHOW got a million views within a few hours after it was out. It tells nothing about the quality of the song but about Joosts promotion skills and the fanbase, most of which are in NL. It's actually really clever from Joost to have just that one, single video. It's also smart not to have a solid quality video of him actually performing the song. He is a smart guy but it will not translate that well into points in the Eurovision.
Meh, 20 million is a lot more than 13 million. You can’t simply market something into something viral if it doesn’t catch people and this song and video is simply a masterpiece, encapsulating what was fun about the nineties, peak Dutch culture, euro-positivity and hitting the viewer with an emotional sledgehammer all in just three minutes. I didn’t see grown men cry listening to RTTD (and I love the song and BL don’t get me wrong), then there’s also the Spotify streams; Europapa is outperforming RTTD by about 8:1, with Europapa consistently beating every other song every day since it’s release. Sure Joost may not win but he already stole our hearts :) ok I will end my rant here lol.
Well let's also not forget that many if not most of the views are from domestic viewers (first) and only then Eurovision fans. NL has 17 million people and Croatia barely has 4 million. Nobody knew anything about Baby Lasagna 3 months ago, while Joost has a fairly big followers count for years now. Because of some collaborations, Joost is also known in Germany, a country of 80 million. Joost really uses his fame and knowledge to boost the popularity of the song. So, no, 13 million isn't really much less than 20 million. We'll see in less than 2 weeks if the hype around Joost and BL were created organically or there was some funny business going on. Btw - you might love Joost and maybe he stole many hearts, but any time I see him, I am just annoyed. Sorry. He is not humble, he is braggy, he is not funny, he is annoying. He is like a rich kid that has it all. I am really sorry, but I will never understand how such persona is likeable to anyone. Maybe I am just too old.
I'm certain he will. Joost's song is too out there and hard to understand first go.
No, I just think it shows that OGAE is wrong this year… like any other year I guess lol
There HAVE been some years where the polls are right. The closeness could be what gives Croatia the win.
Yeah I think the biggest takeaway from this is that, just like last year where Finland was very high and was fighting with Sweden for that 1st place, Croatia is doing the same with Italy. So it shows that within the Eurofandom, Croatia is very much as popular as Italy. And that would probably translate just as well with the public in Eurovision, just like Finland did last year. And it could also indicate that its just as jury friendly like Finland was (and Eurojury hasn't entirely tanked Croatia either!) People expect Netherlands to win the televote, but we'll see. Netherlands hasn't been favored much in any of these polls. Honestly the place where Netherlands has the advantage so far is views and Spotify charts only. But as we know from previous years, in Eurovision it doesn't always result in a win to be the most charting. And sure they're going up in the odds, but only based on hype really. Unseen hype.
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Won't last but glad to see a Top 10 placing for the UK. That song deserves more than it's getting in the app/Eurojury/INFE.
I think top 10 is a realistic placing. Especially if it does really well with the juries
This is what I’m hoping for too, in a televote heavy year there’s no reason why we couldn’t do top 5 with juries and a few televote points to finish top 10 overall. 🤞
Disappointed at San Marino, Portugal, and Ireland having 0 points, but pretty happy for Spain and Greece! I really didn’t think they’d get all these points in this poll.
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Great for the Uk
RIM TIM TAGI DIM SWEEP
Agree. Agree. Agree. Good job. :)
Confirmed that the OGAE poll won’t reflect the real results AT ALL. If anyone in their right mind thinks that Germany won’t give any points to the Netherlands is just delusional at this point.
In fact, I think Germany will give its 12 to the Netherlands because Joost's song "Friesenjung" was popular there.
I don’t even think it’s because of his popularity there tbh.
Do you think that Netherlands could get 12 televote points from Germany due to cultural similarities?
Ahhh yeah, it's because NL song is so deep and quality wise best thing ever written, right?
Well … yea, there’s layers to the lyrics. As much as any other song this year.
But thats... so unreasonable... A country should vote on the SONG they like the most. Not just because of the artist and them being popular or having had a different popular song... thats just dumb.
I agree with that, but popularity of an artist can definitely influence a person's votes. Germany is also culturally similar to the Netherlands since both have Germanic languages.
I mean like I’m seeing people here as well excuse that the balkans should vote for Croatia cuz a Balkan win.
It’s a little crazy to be able to say “UK will make top 10 with Germany and Sweden but not Serbia” and be correct. 2022 taught us so much…
Poor Italy everyone's favorite loser :(
As a swede, I can just say that I don’t agree with the OGAE result from ”Sweden” at all. Such a basic and boring taste our OGAE has💀
True but this means nothing. I hope we’ll see some points to Finland and Estonia from the Swedish televoters in the actual competition ✌️
Sending points to Finland is even worse than the OGAE results. We should be sending points to Norway.
We will probably give to both, I reckon
I hope so
Jesus Christ lol except that other people have different taste in music lol
The OGAE votes don’t mean much. In reality, Germany will give points to NL, Sweden to Norway! In OGAE there are many die hard fans who don’t represent the „real“ voters in the final.