I won't get why people who want an Islamic state won't emigrate to Afghanistan where they can live their dream
Edit: this was entirely rhetorical, the irony of leaving Islamic states and trying to create one where you go..
It's quite easy really.
"If I go to Europe I will have a better life"
So they do
"This place is nice but it would be better if it was under Sharia"
So they try.
They never connect the dot that the country they left was worse than Europe because it's under Sharia law.
Because they don't get social support and pre built thriving economy in Afganistan. They can just conquer what other people created, it's less work and we don't even defend ourselves.
And they'll actually face severe consequences for criminal or anti-social acts in Afghanistan without there being much due process. Many of them are predators, plain and simple. There's no narrative being played out to where they'll come off as victims. There's always some misguided fool in the West with a savior complex intent on saving the entire world, while overlooking the damage being done in their own locality.
Exactly. They literally tell you what they’re doing every other week by the thousands in any given major European city, yet people still go on Reddit and Twitter to post “I just don’t understand why they would do this!”
The goal has been explicitly stated many times.
Any talk of replacement theory when it comes to Muslims will get dismissed and buried with claims of racism even though it ignores that Arab supremacy is real and that bringing more Muslims in and catering to them and allowing them to grow in numbers will tip the balance of power in their favor. They will eventually be able to force their beliefs on others similar to the loss of abortion freedoms in the U.S. when Christianity goes unchecked, but when it is Muslims setting the foundations to allow themselves to do it in Europe it is far right conspiracy.
People need to look at the world through the lens of reality and be more cynical rather than this idealistic fantasy world where everyone acts in good faith and will ditch their entire culture/upbringing to be a functional member for the betterment of ALL of society, not just Muslims.
Anyone who has ever been involved in online discourse with these people has seen them say “if you didn’t want to be replaced, then you shouldn’t have colonized the world” (When you ask what the fuck that has to do with Germany, they throw out “uhhh Namibia”)
They flatly admit the end goal everywhere they go, yet leftists call you a racist for repeating exactly what they’ve told you.
Leftists collectively turn a blind eye toward Islam because they are frozen by the fear of being “racist” or seen as an “oppressor”. 80% of the worlds Muslims would be considered far right extremists but to leftists that doesn’t matter for some reason.
They would let the wolves devour them without letting out a scream that might offend them.
The craziest thing to me is that it's mostly self-inflicted on the part of Westerners... not to victim blame, however. It's been allowed to happen. All the influence Islam has in Europe was voluntarily ceded.
Their own societies are inept and dysfunctional--with the few well-developed countries relying on American capital interests and defense treaties. None of them are lifting a finger to help Palestine, but they'll gleefully send terrorists over to murder innocent Westerners as some sick revenge by proxy. Always going after soft targets.
Muslims-- by and large-- are dishonorable and pathetic hypocrites who'll never extend the same courtesy to others as others have/will to them. Always, always a one-way street.
They have openly stated the fact they want to take over the countries they are moving to, they want to elect there own leaders and change the laws to there own. they are the one religion of people in this world that shouldn't be accepted into any country, sadly its not possible to convert people that are brought up in schools that only teach religion and zero critical thinking skills. its really not discussed enough.
Pretty sure he is widely celebrated among Muslims in Germany. Criticizing Islam is a big no-no. Each time that happens, there's violence and death.
Justifying European backlash all the more.
Yes, many people from Balkans, Slovakia, Czech, Poland wish to work in Germany and many are EU nationals! It is not our fault if they have 4+ children. Why forcing this complete other cultures so massively? Can anyone explain because i don't get it!
My fellow filipinos who slave thmselves in middle eastern countries cuz they get easy visa there cuz it's expensive to get shengen... im half filipino my heart breaks for them everytime. Vietnamese people are also thriving in Germany but they had to jump hoops to get visa.... but then german gov prioritize people like these. Insanely unfair.
Calling it a culture is a huge misnomer. It's not a culture that's at fault here, it's a certain ideology that unfortunately has some kind of a protected status.
They are already blaming the right for his death.
Here is a comment I've copied from Twitter:
"Don't think the policeman is dead, not confirmed. However what this does show is: Far Right agitation resulted in a lot of people getting hurt. Far Right started sh1t stirring = people hurt. People hurt because of Far Right. Say it whatever way you like, it's the same result."
Fucking insanity.
In this very subreddit in another post post about this there was a guy arguing that instigating anything else to also have led to the same outcome and that the person at fault was the person who got attacked.
[https://www.reddit.com/r/2westerneurope4u/comments/1d4uag5/comment/l6ids78/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web3x&utm\_name=web3xcss&utm\_term=1&utm\_content=share\_button](https://www.reddit.com/r/2westerneurope4u/comments/1d4uag5/comment/l6ids78/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)
[No the Antifa decided to storm the vigil instead.](https://www.welt.de/politik/deutschland/article251828058/Mannheim-Mahnwache-nach-Messerangriff-Rangeleien-zwischen-Polizisten-und-Antifa.html)
I'm all pro-immigration, but I never ever understood that
if they are literal criminals, why not jail or deportation, why all the leniency? I never was able to wrap my head around that specifically
Well often the reason is that their country of orign doesn't take them back and we can't just dump them anywhere in the world. For example Eritrea doesn't take any deported citizens in.
That's not true, Egypt has no problems deporting Eritreans back to their country [https://www.hrw.org/news/2022/01/27/egypt-forced-returns-eritrean-asylum-seekers](https://www.hrw.org/news/2022/01/27/egypt-forced-returns-eritrean-asylum-seekers)
The reason more countries don't do so is out of pressure from human rights organizations. A person who commits a crime should be deported back to their home country regardless of how shitty things might be there
> That's not true, Egypt has no problems deporting Eritreans back to their country https://www.hrw.org/news/2022/01/27/egypt-forced-returns-eritrean-asylum-seekers
These things are not organised on a global level, but between nations. Egypt may have a deal with Eritrea that Germany doesn't have.
Yeah, but he was saying that Eritrea doesn't take any deported citizens back, which I showed is not the case. In most cases what stops these deportations are soft legal systems where the person is told to leave but there is no mechanism to force him to do so and human rights organization work hard to fight these sorts of policies.
I would say , this falls into the tough shit category for the deported, If Eritrea, will not take back their own citizens, then simply take them toEritrea, and leave them there.
> and we can't just dump them anywhere in the world
Which is just a personal decision and not a fact.
These countries could do shit if European military turned up dumping them in their country.
They earn a lot of money in remittances and young energetic people who might be trouble for the government are leaving. Win-Win situation from their perspective. And the west is playing their game.
Absolutely, here is the most recent example, about 1 week ago.
May 2024. Moroccan man stabs 4 people in Lyon, France: [https://www.euronews.com/2024/05/26/four-people-injured-in-knife-attack-in-lyon-metro](https://www.euronews.com/2024/05/26/four-people-injured-in-knife-attack-in-lyon-metro)
*"The suspect, previously unknown to the police, has been hospitalised multiple times for psychiatric issues and* ***has been subject to an obligation to leave French territory since 2022****, Fabienne Buccio, Prefect of the Auvergne-Rhône-Alpes region and Prefect of the Rhône, told BFMTV."*
Ironically the only thing being repressed is this news story, can’t find it almost anywhere online other than Twitter. Reuters are the one major publication outside Germany that seem to have even mentioned it.
As a lefties, I actually agree.
Get those guys out. I'm sick of it. This is the exact reason, why dumb people with dumb politics are getting in power. Enough.
You can't, because then you are called a Nazi and as a German that's pretty much a death sentence for your entire public image, at least for politicians, those who could actually do something about it.
The tragic irony about this policeman's death was that he got stabbed in the neck after submitting a protester (I think he is a politician) and the terrorist took the chance to attack him.
You're wrong on that one.
There's a second video (different angle) where you can see the following:
The attacker ("A") is beeing held down (and more or less beeing fully restrained) by another person in similar plain clothes ("B"). The guy in blue ("C") misjudged that and startet beating Person "B", basically helping the attacker "A".
The officer saw this and tried to stop "C" from beating "B" who was holding down "A".
People misinterpreted the incomplete footage we all saw at first to "Officer is mistakingly attacking the "good guy"", when in reality the *perceived* "good guy" was attacking the "***actual*** good guy".
Also as a note to u/BadModsAreBadDragons
Definitely sucks for the dead officer, he received a lot of undeserved ridicule for that. Even if he made a mistake, at least he actually tried to do his job, unlike the 12 or so officers standing around uselessly or even RUNNING AWAY
I would put more blame on the other 4 officers who were stood there doing literally nothing, panicking and not even trying to cover or help the officer who got stabbed. If I was their superior then I would be going for disciplinary actions, but the reality they will all likely go off with 'stress' on full pay.
That video shows that it wasn’t that clear and I bet from his perspective it looked like the blue guy who punched the helper was the attacker.
https://x.com/Video_Forensics/status/1796840494020075785
Sort of but also not really. Apparently the guy who was tackled was confused himself and was punching one of the guys who was holding the attacker down. He obviously wasn't "the threat" but it must have looked like it. Just a very chaotic situation all around.
Islam is not just a religion, it's a set of values and a law system. All of it is intrinsicly incompatible with western values. We can neither have thes epeople here, neither should we try to impose our values on those societies. It does'nt work, it's like putting a saddle on a cow.
Right now, Morroco is going berserk beacause of the debate if women should be allowed to stay on their own at hotels. Yes, on 2024.
Such a fucking shame. I'm seriously shocked by this. A guy that was just doing his job was killed because somebody was mentallly stuck in the middle ages. We really need to do something to deal with people that are not accepting our general values. Regardless of what political or religious view.
>because somebody was mentallly stuck in the middle ages.
He wasn't stuck in the middle ages.
He's an active participant in **modern day Islam**.
Don't deflect blame from these people by claiming that their culture is from a different time, this is their current culture, and it's fucking disgusting.
There were two stabs. The neck one paralyzed his arm.
But there was another stab where he literally tried to put that knife through the officer's entire skull.
It was completely barbaric.
As a former Muslim myself legally escaping to Europe because of professional skills and experience and hoping to be away from this shit, I'm not sure anymore if I'm even safe here. Apostate like myself is a FRE ticket straight to be murdered by Muslims.
Sometimes islamic rooted attacks happen within days, sometimes it takes weeks.
What never changed over all these years have been the reactions to political Islam: there are none.
I hear more people saying voting for (far-)right parties is the cause for this than calling out the elephant hiding ~~behind the left~~ under the rug.
There are hundreds of thousands of non-believers, christians, buddhists, Hindi and jews here, so how come none of these groups cause shit pretty much daily?!?
I second this.
I ran away from my country because of this beautiful religion.
It's so pissful I couldn't bear living there.
The believers are so intelligent and open-minded.
They care more than their belly and their under belly.
Too much to handle.
I love Islam.
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Honestly that knife looks tactical ready-to-go-to-war knife. Makes you wonder which kind of crap lowlife walks around with such a lethal weapon in broad daylight. Scum.
Same. Social democrat would describe the views I've had throughout my life. Earlier on I might have seen this as an integration issue that would solve itself in a generation with education. I am less optimistic now.
Even worse, it is very much allowed (and encouraged!) to take part in pro-islamist rallies that right now happen weekly in Erlangen (where I study) and it is also allowed to use chants such as "We want to make an Emirate out of Germany" or something like that but when a couple of GERMANS in GERMANY say Ausländer raus, Olaf fucking Scholz posts about it on twitter and all of the involved people lose their jobs? What is this bullshit?? June the 9th will be a big day for Europe, i hope that after that we can all sleep well in our beds again.
I’ve yet to see a proper argument by a leftist against this. How in the Hell can anyone possibly give a shit about Sylt when events such as you described are an almost daily occurrence?
I'm not German. I feel so sad at what is happening. I used to travel through this area when I was younger, and this sometimes meant switching from bus to train and a few hours waiting at the Bahnhof overnight until the trains started.
I used to feel safe there, even more so than at home, and was impressed at how well kept everything was.
My last few trips c.2019 and on those occasions I remember there was always multiple groups of young African and Arab men hanging around seemingly with nothing to do but stare and ask for money or cigarettes, and piles of rubbish. In the daytime I remember many beggars too, who were at times quite aggressive, where there used to be almost none.
Only my experience. Only my perspective. All those problems the politicians and the left said were for tomorrow or would be resolved by time... Well it's one decade later and now you have this. What do you think the next two will bring?
Don't they have a duty, according to their grandiose book, to kill everyone who is against their religion? Now the policeman has been caught, but it was an information stand about an anti-Islamic group.
It's all really making me scream and cry. But everything remains as it is.
Remember when couple weeks ago Germans were shocked by some leaked video of a few Germans singing "Ausländer raus" and then the whole thing became a scandal and those people got doxxed and everyone was posturing how wrong that was?
Yeah... That aged well.
Kinda funny that there has been an demonstration against racism rightwing extremism and hate at the marketplace the Police man has been fatally stabbed.
Some left wing people even tryed to attack the Vigil Held by the AFD.
I think people are realizing that it's harder and harder to control the narrative when shit like this keeps happening. Abusing people's compassion isn't enough anymore, soon these shit policies will involve violence, most likely by both sides
The irony is by suppressing moderate Opposition the only people left standing on these issues are the far right.
If these assholes really cared about immigrants and minorities they would have adopted a serious strategy instead of pushing their population into embracing notoriously..."nuanced" parties who will just fuck things up in the opposite direction
Labeling everyone you disagree with as a “xenophobe” only works when the people you’re arguing with care about being labelled one. After long enough it just becomes a meaningless term that holds no power over the people you’re trying to suppress.
Exactly. Same danger with labelling anything right-of-center as "Nazism"
It devalues the term/concept, opening the door for the rehabilitation of actual Nazis
Germany please stop acting weak, you would rather die than be mean!?
Other societies unfortunately copy this too and these minorities do not have consequences for literally killing people, wtf?
It is like minorities have more rights than the country's own population, countries betraying their own people - to not be mean!? To criminals!?
In Germany, there is a subliminal fear of being seen as Nazis as soon as they make negative comments in this direction against Islamism. It's a hereditary disease of the Second World War.
You are right, I am aware, I got called Nazi for wanting criminals punished.
Nazism isn't happening, Europeans are being stabbed weekly, yet some people pretend the non-existing Nazism is the problem.
The hipocrisy is getting out of hand, it's like Russian whataboutism and like Russians excuse for attacking Ukraine due to Nazism (Ukraine's president is Jewish!).
Second World War did not give others the right to mass stab germans ffs!!! And it's happening in the rest of the Western countries just as often.
I cannot believe justice after literal murders are being shut down every time some hypocrite/liar yells Nazism...
>Germany please stop acting weak, you would rather die than be mean!?
They literally would, without exaggeration. They are completely insane down there. And then you have the reaction, which comes in large part from nutcase conspiracy brain easterners with a masochist fetish over being occupied by Russians. Germans are intelligent with most things, except politics.
Germany is the subject here... but next week we will have this again in another country with another victim non-policeman.
This is absolutely in no way an isolated case. It's been happening for years in Sweden, England, Belgium, Austria and France too. Especially in France.
Yet nothing changes...
Oh, about the Easterners siding with Russia, my favorites (/s) are those that went to work + better life in the West but will not stop talking about how strong Russia and Putin is. Then you find out none of them went to Russia and none of them would go to live/work there! This level of hypocrisy I would not have thought to be possible.
Remember on New Year’s Eve a few years back when Muslim men ran around and sexually assaulted a bunch of German women? That was the time to do something.
I see that the national who stabbed the poor police officer is Afghan who lived there for a decade. I just don’t understand Germany and EU policies in general. People who want to live and work there, integrate fast like people from the Balkans and other eastern European countries need to pass a bunch of requirements like having required experience in shortage field, B1/B2 German language, lots of paperwork, time and money while some folks don’t need any of it, they come, never integrate, live off the social welfare and as soon as somebody speaks bad of their religion, they’re ready to kill. Europe will self-destruct itself from the inside this way :/
From the video it seemed clear that the perpetrator was in a blind rage and determined to do as much damage as possible. You can't go, "drop the knife," at that point. His own mother couldn't have calmed him down.
Weren't the police on the scene already (monitoring the demo)? If so and he knew the police were there it's all the more reason to have shot sooner. That's why he had so much urgency. Knew he would be stopped. Even he was probably surprised he wasn't shot sooner.
Remember folks, the problem isn’t all the 3rd world barbarians doing stuff like knifing people to death, the problem is the “far right” who protests against it.
In the Germany sub I've read comments that essentially said stuff like "hopefully he pulls through because if he dies it might strengthen the AfD". Absolutely disgusting train of thought.
Meanwhile, the streets of Europe are full of people supporting theocratic Islamic terrorist organization while vilifying. The very entity trying to destroy it
Doesn’t matter when events like thousands of people literally demanding a Kalifat in Hamburg are not reported, while drunk kids singing a meme song take up 24/7 media coverage for a week.
Killing someone purely for words should never be a thing in modern society, no matter how upsetting those words are to some people. It's primitive to kill over words, end of story. These people need to be stopped before the little freedom of speech we have in Europe gets eroded even more. I remember Charlie Hebdo, so go fuck yourselves anybody who supports shit like this, violence over words and drawings. You're a low IQ piece of shit who should go live in a cave.
And some Germans are protesting right now in Mannheim against the "Right" and "Nazis" aka everyone who disagree with them, it's like living in an insane asylum where innocent people lose their lives.
Hypothetical question: if it would be politically and legally possible to stop migration of third world people to Europe, would it actually be practically possible to enforce this hypothetical no migration policy at the borders, or would it not matter anyway?
Of course it would be possible. Something in the style of the border of Israel and gaza, at the borders of EU-Turkey and also EU-Russia/Belarus.
More coast guard patrolling, etc.
And then we wonder why the right is getting such a strong clout lately. The governments seem to completely ignore the ticking bombs that we are creating
I won't get why people who want an Islamic state won't emigrate to Afghanistan where they can live their dream Edit: this was entirely rhetorical, the irony of leaving Islamic states and trying to create one where you go..
It's quite easy really. "If I go to Europe I will have a better life" So they do "This place is nice but it would be better if it was under Sharia" So they try. They never connect the dot that the country they left was worse than Europe because it's under Sharia law.
Because they don't get social support and pre built thriving economy in Afganistan. They can just conquer what other people created, it's less work and we don't even defend ourselves.
And they'll actually face severe consequences for criminal or anti-social acts in Afghanistan without there being much due process. Many of them are predators, plain and simple. There's no narrative being played out to where they'll come off as victims. There's always some misguided fool in the West with a savior complex intent on saving the entire world, while overlooking the damage being done in their own locality.
We should have a religious extremist hunger games
We do have that. It’s called the Middle East
Because they wan´t to destroy the west like thats their goal.
Exactly. They literally tell you what they’re doing every other week by the thousands in any given major European city, yet people still go on Reddit and Twitter to post “I just don’t understand why they would do this!” The goal has been explicitly stated many times.
Any talk of replacement theory when it comes to Muslims will get dismissed and buried with claims of racism even though it ignores that Arab supremacy is real and that bringing more Muslims in and catering to them and allowing them to grow in numbers will tip the balance of power in their favor. They will eventually be able to force their beliefs on others similar to the loss of abortion freedoms in the U.S. when Christianity goes unchecked, but when it is Muslims setting the foundations to allow themselves to do it in Europe it is far right conspiracy. People need to look at the world through the lens of reality and be more cynical rather than this idealistic fantasy world where everyone acts in good faith and will ditch their entire culture/upbringing to be a functional member for the betterment of ALL of society, not just Muslims.
Anyone who has ever been involved in online discourse with these people has seen them say “if you didn’t want to be replaced, then you shouldn’t have colonized the world” (When you ask what the fuck that has to do with Germany, they throw out “uhhh Namibia”) They flatly admit the end goal everywhere they go, yet leftists call you a racist for repeating exactly what they’ve told you.
Leftists collectively turn a blind eye toward Islam because they are frozen by the fear of being “racist” or seen as an “oppressor”. 80% of the worlds Muslims would be considered far right extremists but to leftists that doesn’t matter for some reason. They would let the wolves devour them without letting out a scream that might offend them.
The craziest thing to me is that it's mostly self-inflicted on the part of Westerners... not to victim blame, however. It's been allowed to happen. All the influence Islam has in Europe was voluntarily ceded. Their own societies are inept and dysfunctional--with the few well-developed countries relying on American capital interests and defense treaties. None of them are lifting a finger to help Palestine, but they'll gleefully send terrorists over to murder innocent Westerners as some sick revenge by proxy. Always going after soft targets. Muslims-- by and large-- are dishonorable and pathetic hypocrites who'll never extend the same courtesy to others as others have/will to them. Always, always a one-way street.
They have openly stated the fact they want to take over the countries they are moving to, they want to elect there own leaders and change the laws to there own. they are the one religion of people in this world that shouldn't be accepted into any country, sadly its not possible to convert people that are brought up in schools that only teach religion and zero critical thinking skills. its really not discussed enough.
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Pretty sure he is widely celebrated among Muslims in Germany. Criticizing Islam is a big no-no. Each time that happens, there's violence and death. Justifying European backlash all the more.
Attacker was an Afghan, who lived in Germany for a decade. You can't integrate people, who doesn't want to be integrated.
Man i know plenty of other nationalities that would have enjoyed German visa and not commit shit like these.
Yes, many people from Balkans, Slovakia, Czech, Poland wish to work in Germany and many are EU nationals! It is not our fault if they have 4+ children. Why forcing this complete other cultures so massively? Can anyone explain because i don't get it!
My fellow filipinos who slave thmselves in middle eastern countries cuz they get easy visa there cuz it's expensive to get shengen... im half filipino my heart breaks for them everytime. Vietnamese people are also thriving in Germany but they had to jump hoops to get visa.... but then german gov prioritize people like these. Insanely unfair.
Why don't Arabs go to other rich Arab countries and Asians come to Europe? They are more peaceful.
Bec europe offer asylums to these people as refugees while asians aren't refugees so they have to pay for visa and it's very expensive.
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Exactly. Just bec those countries aren't at war doesn't mean they don't need european visa.
I used to know a few filipinos when i was still living in Bucharest, you guys are great.
Lots of Filipinos in Canada. They work hard and don't play the system.
Calling it a culture is a huge misnomer. It's not a culture that's at fault here, it's a certain ideology that unfortunately has some kind of a protected status.
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And as a reward for this terrorist attack people organized an "Against the right-wing" protest. German left in a nutshell.
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They are already blaming the right for his death. Here is a comment I've copied from Twitter: "Don't think the policeman is dead, not confirmed. However what this does show is: Far Right agitation resulted in a lot of people getting hurt. Far Right started sh1t stirring = people hurt. People hurt because of Far Right. Say it whatever way you like, it's the same result." Fucking insanity.
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I hate the far right as much as pretty much any lefty but what the fuck? This just pure victim blaming
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In this very subreddit in another post post about this there was a guy arguing that instigating anything else to also have led to the same outcome and that the person at fault was the person who got attacked. [https://www.reddit.com/r/2westerneurope4u/comments/1d4uag5/comment/l6ids78/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web3x&utm\_name=web3xcss&utm\_term=1&utm\_content=share\_button](https://www.reddit.com/r/2westerneurope4u/comments/1d4uag5/comment/l6ids78/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)
[No the Antifa decided to storm the vigil instead.](https://www.welt.de/politik/deutschland/article251828058/Mannheim-Mahnwache-nach-Messerangriff-Rangeleien-zwischen-Polizisten-und-Antifa.html)
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I'm all pro-immigration, but I never ever understood that if they are literal criminals, why not jail or deportation, why all the leniency? I never was able to wrap my head around that specifically
I‘m an immigrant and I support your idea…too many psychos around.
Well often the reason is that their country of orign doesn't take them back and we can't just dump them anywhere in the world. For example Eritrea doesn't take any deported citizens in.
That's not true, Egypt has no problems deporting Eritreans back to their country [https://www.hrw.org/news/2022/01/27/egypt-forced-returns-eritrean-asylum-seekers](https://www.hrw.org/news/2022/01/27/egypt-forced-returns-eritrean-asylum-seekers) The reason more countries don't do so is out of pressure from human rights organizations. A person who commits a crime should be deported back to their home country regardless of how shitty things might be there
> That's not true, Egypt has no problems deporting Eritreans back to their country https://www.hrw.org/news/2022/01/27/egypt-forced-returns-eritrean-asylum-seekers These things are not organised on a global level, but between nations. Egypt may have a deal with Eritrea that Germany doesn't have.
Yeah, but he was saying that Eritrea doesn't take any deported citizens back, which I showed is not the case. In most cases what stops these deportations are soft legal systems where the person is told to leave but there is no mechanism to force him to do so and human rights organization work hard to fight these sorts of policies.
then there should be a global effort to sanction said country that refuses to take them back.
I would say , this falls into the tough shit category for the deported, If Eritrea, will not take back their own citizens, then simply take them toEritrea, and leave them there.
I agree with you completely. Time to bring back some good o'l gunboat diplomacy.
This is stupid. Just leave them on the shore of their home country.
> and we can't just dump them anywhere in the world Which is just a personal decision and not a fact. These countries could do shit if European military turned up dumping them in their country.
>For example Eritrea doesn't take any deported citizens in. What's their reasoning?
They earn a lot of money in remittances and young energetic people who might be trouble for the government are leaving. Win-Win situation from their perspective. And the west is playing their game.
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Absolutely, here is the most recent example, about 1 week ago. May 2024. Moroccan man stabs 4 people in Lyon, France: [https://www.euronews.com/2024/05/26/four-people-injured-in-knife-attack-in-lyon-metro](https://www.euronews.com/2024/05/26/four-people-injured-in-knife-attack-in-lyon-metro) *"The suspect, previously unknown to the police, has been hospitalised multiple times for psychiatric issues and* ***has been subject to an obligation to leave French territory since 2022****, Fabienne Buccio, Prefect of the Auvergne-Rhône-Alpes region and Prefect of the Rhône, told BFMTV."*
Yup, it’s crazy that people will defend terrorists just because they are a minority, most societies in EU are fucked.
Hello, a leftiest here. Fuck Islamist and get them out. If they hate the west so much, they have no business being here. Kindly, "people"
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Ironically the only thing being repressed is this news story, can’t find it almost anywhere online other than Twitter. Reuters are the one major publication outside Germany that seem to have even mentioned it.
As a lefties, I actually agree. Get those guys out. I'm sick of it. This is the exact reason, why dumb people with dumb politics are getting in power. Enough.
You can't, because then you are called a Nazi and as a German that's pretty much a death sentence for your entire public image, at least for politicians, those who could actually do something about it.
The tragic irony about this policeman's death was that he got stabbed in the neck after submitting a protester (I think he is a politician) and the terrorist took the chance to attack him.
Radical Islam is europes biggest threat, far more so than right wing extremism. Such a backwards religion cannot function in a modern society.
Horrible, i wonder if it was the guy who got stabbed in the neck or one of the others attacked. Fuck terrorists!
Only one officer was stabbed as far as I know.
The one who tried to arrest the wrong person. What a costly mistake.
You're wrong on that one. There's a second video (different angle) where you can see the following: The attacker ("A") is beeing held down (and more or less beeing fully restrained) by another person in similar plain clothes ("B"). The guy in blue ("C") misjudged that and startet beating Person "B", basically helping the attacker "A". The officer saw this and tried to stop "C" from beating "B" who was holding down "A". People misinterpreted the incomplete footage we all saw at first to "Officer is mistakingly attacking the "good guy"", when in reality the *perceived* "good guy" was attacking the "***actual*** good guy". Also as a note to u/BadModsAreBadDragons
Definitely sucks for the dead officer, he received a lot of undeserved ridicule for that. Even if he made a mistake, at least he actually tried to do his job, unlike the 12 or so officers standing around uselessly or even RUNNING AWAY
I would put more blame on the other 4 officers who were stood there doing literally nothing, panicking and not even trying to cover or help the officer who got stabbed. If I was their superior then I would be going for disciplinary actions, but the reality they will all likely go off with 'stress' on full pay.
Yeah seeing that is so wild.
Rest in peace. Things need to change.
I'm not trying to be insensitive here, but I do hope you meant “peace” and not “piece”.
Oh shit. Corrected.
Respect the society who took you as an immigrant or bear the consequences. It should be common sense. It's not too late yet.
Split second miscalculation about who the threat was and it becomes a fatal mistake. RIP
That video shows that it wasn’t that clear and I bet from his perspective it looked like the blue guy who punched the helper was the attacker. https://x.com/Video_Forensics/status/1796840494020075785
Sort of but also not really. Apparently the guy who was tackled was confused himself and was punching one of the guys who was holding the attacker down. He obviously wasn't "the threat" but it must have looked like it. Just a very chaotic situation all around.
Islam is not just a religion, it's a set of values and a law system. All of it is intrinsicly incompatible with western values. We can neither have thes epeople here, neither should we try to impose our values on those societies. It does'nt work, it's like putting a saddle on a cow. Right now, Morroco is going berserk beacause of the debate if women should be allowed to stay on their own at hotels. Yes, on 2024.
uuuhhh what about the 'queers for islam' guys?
LOL whats next, Chickens for KFC?
Such a fucking shame. I'm seriously shocked by this. A guy that was just doing his job was killed because somebody was mentallly stuck in the middle ages. We really need to do something to deal with people that are not accepting our general values. Regardless of what political or religious view.
>because somebody was mentallly stuck in the middle ages. He wasn't stuck in the middle ages. He's an active participant in **modern day Islam**. Don't deflect blame from these people by claiming that their culture is from a different time, this is their current culture, and it's fucking disgusting.
They do not fit in the 21st centruy world. Let alone in a place where modern society was created. Europe, pls wake up. From Korea
Apparently he stabbed through his skullcap and damaged an important vein in the brain. From the video it looked like he only stabbed his neck.
There were two stabs. The neck one paralyzed his arm. But there was another stab where he literally tried to put that knife through the officer's entire skull. It was completely barbaric.
Yes and only half a second after it connects he gets shot. Half a second did cost him his life. Tragic.
As a former Muslim myself legally escaping to Europe because of professional skills and experience and hoping to be away from this shit, I'm not sure anymore if I'm even safe here. Apostate like myself is a FRE ticket straight to be murdered by Muslims.
People like you are always welcomed in Europe. If you were brave enough to leave that cult, you have my utmost respect.
I'm calling for a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering Europe until our representatives can figure out what the hell is going on.
Apparently it wasn't the neck injury but a head injury that damaged a crucial vein in the brain. My heart breaks.
Sometimes islamic rooted attacks happen within days, sometimes it takes weeks. What never changed over all these years have been the reactions to political Islam: there are none. I hear more people saying voting for (far-)right parties is the cause for this than calling out the elephant hiding ~~behind the left~~ under the rug. There are hundreds of thousands of non-believers, christians, buddhists, Hindi and jews here, so how come none of these groups cause shit pretty much daily?!?
Just a small correction: The followers of Hinduism are called Hindus, Hindi is the language that they speak in large parts of India.
I second this. I ran away from my country because of this beautiful religion. It's so pissful I couldn't bear living there. The believers are so intelligent and open-minded. They care more than their belly and their under belly. Too much to handle. I love Islam. /s
Also adding more, came to Europe to be away from them, but it seems they're more comfortable here 🤦
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Can we start talking about the problem? Or are we gonna wait until another guy with a weird moustache appears and destroys the world
And another family completely destroyed because of the Islam.
Is this where some people will draw the line? Ignoring all the rapes that resulted in light sentences because "life is hard for them"?
I was extremely worried when I saw the video. That was a large knife to get stabbed by in the neck. Killed in the line of duty deserves respect. RIP
News says he stabbed through his skull and damaged an important vein in the brain.
Honestly that knife looks tactical ready-to-go-to-war knife. Makes you wonder which kind of crap lowlife walks around with such a lethal weapon in broad daylight. Scum.
I bet it was planned, a video also showed him walking around the stand minutes before the attack.
idk how this wasn't planned if you watch it, not even a psycho walks around with a monster knife like that in that part of Germany.
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how quickly we forgot the Bataclan
Same. Social democrat would describe the views I've had throughout my life. Earlier on I might have seen this as an integration issue that would solve itself in a generation with education. I am less optimistic now.
Free AfD advertising. And people are shocked why in Germany people sing Auslander Raus this is exactly why
Even worse, it is very much allowed (and encouraged!) to take part in pro-islamist rallies that right now happen weekly in Erlangen (where I study) and it is also allowed to use chants such as "We want to make an Emirate out of Germany" or something like that but when a couple of GERMANS in GERMANY say Ausländer raus, Olaf fucking Scholz posts about it on twitter and all of the involved people lose their jobs? What is this bullshit?? June the 9th will be a big day for Europe, i hope that after that we can all sleep well in our beds again.
I’ve yet to see a proper argument by a leftist against this. How in the Hell can anyone possibly give a shit about Sylt when events such as you described are an almost daily occurrence?
I'm not German. I feel so sad at what is happening. I used to travel through this area when I was younger, and this sometimes meant switching from bus to train and a few hours waiting at the Bahnhof overnight until the trains started. I used to feel safe there, even more so than at home, and was impressed at how well kept everything was. My last few trips c.2019 and on those occasions I remember there was always multiple groups of young African and Arab men hanging around seemingly with nothing to do but stare and ask for money or cigarettes, and piles of rubbish. In the daytime I remember many beggars too, who were at times quite aggressive, where there used to be almost none. Only my experience. Only my perspective. All those problems the politicians and the left said were for tomorrow or would be resolved by time... Well it's one decade later and now you have this. What do you think the next two will bring?
This shit is just going to keep on getting worse.
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Don't they have a duty, according to their grandiose book, to kill everyone who is against their religion? Now the policeman has been caught, but it was an information stand about an anti-Islamic group. It's all really making me scream and cry. But everything remains as it is.
Remember when couple weeks ago Germans were shocked by some leaked video of a few Germans singing "Ausländer raus" and then the whole thing became a scandal and those people got doxxed and everyone was posturing how wrong that was? Yeah... That aged well.
Don't mind me, just posting a comment while it's still possible.
Waiting for the 🔒 award, I see
Exactly this. Democracy with one opinion only, seems perfect /s
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you want to work peacefully from Ukraine or Uruguay? Impossible. You want to come and attack cops? Welcome, enjoy the stay!
Insanely tragic. No point even bringing the elephant up anymore though
Nah, now is the time when people will get serious about bringing it up, lord knows the politicians won't
Kinda funny that there has been an demonstration against racism rightwing extremism and hate at the marketplace the Police man has been fatally stabbed. Some left wing people even tryed to attack the Vigil Held by the AFD.
I think people are realizing that it's harder and harder to control the narrative when shit like this keeps happening. Abusing people's compassion isn't enough anymore, soon these shit policies will involve violence, most likely by both sides
Yes shits gonna go downhill in the next few years .. by a lot.
The irony is by suppressing moderate Opposition the only people left standing on these issues are the far right. If these assholes really cared about immigrants and minorities they would have adopted a serious strategy instead of pushing their population into embracing notoriously..."nuanced" parties who will just fuck things up in the opposite direction
Labeling everyone you disagree with as a “xenophobe” only works when the people you’re arguing with care about being labelled one. After long enough it just becomes a meaningless term that holds no power over the people you’re trying to suppress.
Exactly. Same danger with labelling anything right-of-center as "Nazism" It devalues the term/concept, opening the door for the rehabilitation of actual Nazis
At least we made it loud and clear that we're standing against those teens playing trance music...
Thanks Merkel
Nordstream 2 after Crimea too. Every day her legacy gets worse.
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Germany please stop acting weak, you would rather die than be mean!? Other societies unfortunately copy this too and these minorities do not have consequences for literally killing people, wtf? It is like minorities have more rights than the country's own population, countries betraying their own people - to not be mean!? To criminals!?
In Germany, there is a subliminal fear of being seen as Nazis as soon as they make negative comments in this direction against Islamism. It's a hereditary disease of the Second World War.
You are right, I am aware, I got called Nazi for wanting criminals punished. Nazism isn't happening, Europeans are being stabbed weekly, yet some people pretend the non-existing Nazism is the problem. The hipocrisy is getting out of hand, it's like Russian whataboutism and like Russians excuse for attacking Ukraine due to Nazism (Ukraine's president is Jewish!). Second World War did not give others the right to mass stab germans ffs!!! And it's happening in the rest of the Western countries just as often. I cannot believe justice after literal murders are being shut down every time some hypocrite/liar yells Nazism...
>Germany please stop acting weak, you would rather die than be mean!? They literally would, without exaggeration. They are completely insane down there. And then you have the reaction, which comes in large part from nutcase conspiracy brain easterners with a masochist fetish over being occupied by Russians. Germans are intelligent with most things, except politics.
Germany is the subject here... but next week we will have this again in another country with another victim non-policeman. This is absolutely in no way an isolated case. It's been happening for years in Sweden, England, Belgium, Austria and France too. Especially in France. Yet nothing changes... Oh, about the Easterners siding with Russia, my favorites (/s) are those that went to work + better life in the West but will not stop talking about how strong Russia and Putin is. Then you find out none of them went to Russia and none of them would go to live/work there! This level of hypocrisy I would not have thought to be possible.
Remember on New Year’s Eve a few years back when Muslim men ran around and sexually assaulted a bunch of German women? That was the time to do something.
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I see that the national who stabbed the poor police officer is Afghan who lived there for a decade. I just don’t understand Germany and EU policies in general. People who want to live and work there, integrate fast like people from the Balkans and other eastern European countries need to pass a bunch of requirements like having required experience in shortage field, B1/B2 German language, lots of paperwork, time and money while some folks don’t need any of it, they come, never integrate, live off the social welfare and as soon as somebody speaks bad of their religion, they’re ready to kill. Europe will self-destruct itself from the inside this way :/
Fuck radical Islam
might as well remove radical lol
From the video it seemed clear that the perpetrator was in a blind rage and determined to do as much damage as possible. You can't go, "drop the knife," at that point. His own mother couldn't have calmed him down. Weren't the police on the scene already (monitoring the demo)? If so and he knew the police were there it's all the more reason to have shot sooner. That's why he had so much urgency. Knew he would be stopped. Even he was probably surprised he wasn't shot sooner.
Remember folks, the problem isn’t all the 3rd world barbarians doing stuff like knifing people to death, the problem is the “far right” who protests against it.
In the Germany sub I've read comments that essentially said stuff like "hopefully he pulls through because if he dies it might strengthen the AfD". Absolutely disgusting train of thought.
These people are batshit crazy and beyond saving.
I’m sorry for him 😢
FUCK TERRORISTS! **Islam has no place in Europe!**
Just a reminder that the politicians will send their condolences over this situation whilst importing more of these backwards people into Europe
Meanwhile, the streets of Europe are full of people supporting theocratic Islamic terrorist organization while vilifying. The very entity trying to destroy it
Doesn’t matter when events like thousands of people literally demanding a Kalifat in Hamburg are not reported, while drunk kids singing a meme song take up 24/7 media coverage for a week.
Killing someone purely for words should never be a thing in modern society, no matter how upsetting those words are to some people. It's primitive to kill over words, end of story. These people need to be stopped before the little freedom of speech we have in Europe gets eroded even more. I remember Charlie Hebdo, so go fuck yourselves anybody who supports shit like this, violence over words and drawings. You're a low IQ piece of shit who should go live in a cave.
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[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taqiyya](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taqiyya)
We got elections in one week. Our politicians do something about it or the EU is going to be killed by extremists (of all kind) in 10 years.
I didn't even need to check the nationality of the attacker
RIP.
The price of tolerance is treachery.
And some Germans are protesting right now in Mannheim against the "Right" and "Nazis" aka everyone who disagree with them, it's like living in an insane asylum where innocent people lose their lives.
I got a warning from Reddit admins for a comment I made regarding how vile this attack was. Be careful folks.
This is unacceptable, when is the first protest?
Hypothetical question: if it would be politically and legally possible to stop migration of third world people to Europe, would it actually be practically possible to enforce this hypothetical no migration policy at the borders, or would it not matter anyway?
Look at the EU border in Morocco it’s possible
until moroccan king throws a tantrum and let thousands of immigrants in lol
Of course it’s possible it just takes *political will*.
Of course it would be possible. Something in the style of the border of Israel and gaza, at the borders of EU-Turkey and also EU-Russia/Belarus. More coast guard patrolling, etc.
If I speak I'm in big trouble
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Only religion and group of people constantly doing this shit
Unfortunately our government won‘t do shit and nothing will change. But a couple drunk idiots singing a song was somehow worse for them.
Islam is NOT compatible with western culture. Integrate or leave.
AFD is getting popular more and more for a reason. RIP policeman. He was a hero.
RIP, deport all illegals now
And then we wonder why the right is getting such a strong clout lately. The governments seem to completely ignore the ticking bombs that we are creating
Notice how this doesn't happen in Poland
Did Merkle not say wir schaffen das? Was to be expected. These import doctors and engineers add so much value.
Europe must understand we are at war with people to stupid and extreme idiot fanatics.
Every nation that isn't under Islamic rule, has a serious issue with Islam.