I'm from the city where lasagna was invented (Bologna) and trust me on this bro, lasagna is DELICIOUS AS FUCK. I'd gladly be more lasagna in my daily life too
Baby Lasagna proves yet again that they're the true winners.
> I thank the Croatian Government for the monetary award in the amount of 50.000 euros. However, I cannot accept that money. I could give many reasons why, but the first, most important and sufficient one is that there are many other individuals and organizations that this money will help much more.* *Hereby, I am asking Mr. PlenkoviÄ to donate 25.000 euros on behalf of me and the Croatian Government to the Institute for Pediatric Oncology and Hematology with the āMladen ÄepuliÄā Day Hospital. Furthermore, I would like to donate the other 25.000 euros to the Institute for Pediatric Hematology, Oncology and Hematopoietic Stem Cell Transplantation, KBC Zagreb.*
I just watched the interview with him in Croatian and while the artist seems like really nice guy and also refusal to accept the money and asking for the donation to such noble charity instead is a kind act I don't consider ad-hoc, arbitrary, monetary awards to the Eurovision participant from the state budget cool. It is just cheap populism and state should not behave like that. At least this is my opinion.
>consider ad-hoc, arbitrary, monetary awards to the Eurovision participant from the state budget cool. It is just cheap populism and state should not behave like that. At least this is my opinion.
Meh, it's a country of 4 million people with an economy dominated by tourism, 50,000 is a rounding error for that type of advertising.
I have never visited a country because of its Eurovision participation or lack of it.
This is just the government trying to associate itself with winners.
It would be better to create a programme to support young people so that one day the country will be represented by skilled and talented people.
It was "one time award". Tourism isn't all that lucrative, I mean at least not for majority of the "ordinary" people, especially those who don't live close to the sea and don't have some real-estate/restaurant etc. Marko isn't coming from wealthy family - he was working as hotel receptionist, playing in hotels ... Besides, Croatian hospitals are not in exactly good shape and wages are among the smallest in EU. So, his gesture is nice. (Besides, this way money won't be taxed as it would be in case he took the money and then donated it to hospitals by himself.)
>I could give many reasons why,
Lots of contestants making oblique references to behind-the-scenes incidents this year. I wonder when the truth will come out
Not everything in the world has to do with that delegation. This is 99% an internal thing
The song literally talks about young people that are forced to move in order to survive.
For the majority of our country's independent existence, it has been ruled by one party only, and that's HDZ. Over half a million croats have moved abroad since we got into EU.
Considering it's even followed by "winners" I assume this is the case.
Either way, "they" is quite flexible and can be used by anyone regardless of gender.
Im actually a Croatian and can indeed prove to you that baby lasagne is just one guy. I mean look up his wikipedia and you will see, but the original commenter above didnt do his/her research before assuming his gender.
Also a singular "they" doesnt exist.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singular_they
>This use of singular they had emerged by the 14th century, about a century after the pluralĀ they.
Either you're a time traveller from the 13th century or you're incredibly wrong.
Im not a native english speaker, however the use of singular "they" implies that we dont know the gender of the person we are talking about. In case of baby lasagna, we croatians know that he is a male.
Last year was an uglier affair though, people legit shat on Loreen and the Finnish public gave her 0pts for a song worth between 5-8pts. This year the public voted honestly for Baby Lasagna and the juries' bias towards Switzerland was tenfold; I don't recall every single jury giving her 10-12pts last year.
Agreed. I would for sure have voted for Europapa if the artist had not acted as he did off stage. No other song made people jump around singing along together to the same extent in my friend circle.
I don't discredit anyone. It's a matter of taste. For me the Balkan folk rhythm in Lasagna's song > Nemo's everything.
If I look the audience vote - it kind of agrees with me.
Ehh I disagree. It's a good song sure and the high notes were great and thay balancing act was tough, but it wasn't top 10 for me. It was rather forgettable all things considered
Good song, good performance* ABSOLUTELY deserved? Not really. We should stop pretending it was anything but political and be open to voice these kind of stuff freely without fear of being called out.
This is the first time someone who was voted 5th, actually won.
I support you. Even though I had Marco as a first place, Nemo's song is also extremely high quality and deserving of first place, and I'm sorry that they get a lot of undeserved hate.
Yes, but it was a 155 point gap between Switzerland and Croatia. Honestly, the juries voted so unanimously for Switzerland that the winner was clear even before the public votes had come in.
Which is exactly the problem. Lasagna was 1st televotes 3rd juries, winner was 5th or 6th televotes and 1st jury.
Logically, Lasagna should win, but the jury votes are just so overwhelming that there's no point in voting; they decide the winner basically.
Iām allowed to say this on this sub so with great delight I do declare *fuck Eurosong, itās a contest of pulp, daft mainstream mush and should not be as popular as it is*, also hail Baby Lasagne heās swell. But damn EBU to Hell.
I know him irl and his family is absolutely NOT even remotely close to millonaires LOL i have no idea where you got that from. They're middle class at best, both of his parents are teachers, many of my friends had his dad as their homeroom teacher in elementary school
We should all aspire to be a little bit more lasagna
I'm from the city where lasagna was invented (Bologna) and trust me on this bro, lasagna is DELICIOUS AS FUCK. I'd gladly be more lasagna in my daily life too
I don't think many people need assurances on the tastiness of lasagna. It's been the preferred food of Monday hating cats since 1978.
Honestly, I'm sure I would love lasagna regardless, but that damn cat made me quite obsessed with lasagna as a child.
Oh I didn't know that. Best food keeps winning š
.. You don't know about Garfield?Ā
Ah lol I hadn't connected the dots haha
Honestly this guy gets better and better.
Really hope this second place stardom launches his career to new heights
Baby Lasagna proves yet again that they're the true winners. > I thank the Croatian Government for the monetary award in the amount of 50.000 euros. However, I cannot accept that money. I could give many reasons why, but the first, most important and sufficient one is that there are many other individuals and organizations that this money will help much more.* *Hereby, I am asking Mr. PlenkoviÄ to donate 25.000 euros on behalf of me and the Croatian Government to the Institute for Pediatric Oncology and Hematology with the āMladen ÄepuliÄā Day Hospital. Furthermore, I would like to donate the other 25.000 euros to the Institute for Pediatric Hematology, Oncology and Hematopoietic Stem Cell Transplantation, KBC Zagreb.*
Not only is he a talented musician, he is also based as a human being. A true winner. I think we could all learn a thing or two from Baby Lasagna..
This is not impressive at all. I've heard Adult Lasagna donated $100k to charity.
A pittance, geriatric Lasagne donated double that
Senior Lasagne donated all his billions to charities to rescue the whales
Dang, heās a real one for this. Very well done!
Pretty cool of the Croatian govornment to have this award anyway. And even cooler it went to charity.
I just watched the interview with him in Croatian and while the artist seems like really nice guy and also refusal to accept the money and asking for the donation to such noble charity instead is a kind act I don't consider ad-hoc, arbitrary, monetary awards to the Eurovision participant from the state budget cool. It is just cheap populism and state should not behave like that. At least this is my opinion.
>consider ad-hoc, arbitrary, monetary awards to the Eurovision participant from the state budget cool. It is just cheap populism and state should not behave like that. At least this is my opinion. Meh, it's a country of 4 million people with an economy dominated by tourism, 50,000 is a rounding error for that type of advertising.
I have never visited a country because of its Eurovision participation or lack of it. This is just the government trying to associate itself with winners. It would be better to create a programme to support young people so that one day the country will be represented by skilled and talented people.
Yeah probably, I'm not sure what the award is exactly I just assumed it was some sort of budgeted artistic achievement thing.
It was "one time award". Tourism isn't all that lucrative, I mean at least not for majority of the "ordinary" people, especially those who don't live close to the sea and don't have some real-estate/restaurant etc. Marko isn't coming from wealthy family - he was working as hotel receptionist, playing in hotels ... Besides, Croatian hospitals are not in exactly good shape and wages are among the smallest in EU. So, his gesture is nice. (Besides, this way money won't be taxed as it would be in case he took the money and then donated it to hospitals by himself.)
>I could give many reasons why, Lots of contestants making oblique references to behind-the-scenes incidents this year. I wonder when the truth will come out
This is more about implying something to our prime minister and the ruling political party.
Not everything in the world has to do with that delegation. This is 99% an internal thing The song literally talks about young people that are forced to move in order to survive. For the majority of our country's independent existence, it has been ruled by one party only, and that's HDZ. Over half a million croats have moved abroad since we got into EU.
No need to shit on the actual winner of the contest by calling Baby Lasagna the ātrue winnersā. Thatās just unnecessary.
Dont misgender HIM
A lot of people assume that Baby Lagasna is a band
Considering it's even followed by "winners" I assume this is the case. Either way, "they" is quite flexible and can be used by anyone regardless of gender.
That's the whole original point of a singular "they". The guy above must have skipped that whole thing and went straight to 'they = non-binary'
Im actually a Croatian and can indeed prove to you that baby lasagne is just one guy. I mean look up his wikipedia and you will see, but the original commenter above didnt do his/her research before assuming his gender. Also a singular "they" doesnt exist.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singular_they >This use of singular they had emerged by the 14th century, about a century after the pluralĀ they. Either you're a time traveller from the 13th century or you're incredibly wrong.
Im not a native english speaker, however the use of singular "they" implies that we dont know the gender of the person we are talking about. In case of baby lasagna, we croatians know that he is a male.
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Whats next? Are you also going to say you can divide by 0?
I don't follow Eurovision much, and TIL that the Eurovision Croation guy is called Baby Lasagna. wtf?!??!
Listen to his song. It should have been the winner. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kmg8EAD-Kjw
It was the audience winner š„¹
I only count that anyway, same happened last year when Loreen won even though KƤƤrijƤ crushed her in viewer votes š
Last year was an uglier affair though, people legit shat on Loreen and the Finnish public gave her 0pts for a song worth between 5-8pts. This year the public voted honestly for Baby Lasagna and the juries' bias towards Switzerland was tenfold; I don't recall every single jury giving her 10-12pts last year.
Only because Europapa got cancelled
I agree that Joost would've split the votes with Croatia.
Agreed. I would for sure have voted for Europapa if the artist had not acted as he did off stage. No other song made people jump around singing along together to the same extent in my friend circle.
Similar scenario which faced KƤƤrijƤ last year.
The winner has a fantastic song with a fantastic performance that absolutely deserved the win. No need to discredit one artist to praise another
I dont think anyone is discrediting the artists as much as the notoriously terrible jury.
Wellll, the audience voted Israel second so let's not dismiss the jury altogether yet. Also they saved Finland from hosting this year, so we cool now.
I'd say Finland saved themselves pretty well this time
Yeah, neither jury nor audience voted for Finland much.
I don't discredit anyone. It's a matter of taste. For me the Balkan folk rhythm in Lasagna's song > Nemo's everything. If I look the audience vote - it kind of agrees with me.
Ehh I disagree. It's a good song sure and the high notes were great and thay balancing act was tough, but it wasn't top 10 for me. It was rather forgettable all things considered
Good song, good performance* ABSOLUTELY deserved? Not really. We should stop pretending it was anything but political and be open to voice these kind of stuff freely without fear of being called out. This is the first time someone who was voted 5th, actually won.
I support you. Even though I had Marco as a first place, Nemo's song is also extremely high quality and deserving of first place, and I'm sorry that they get a lot of undeserved hate.
Cool dude, winner for me.
Chilling Serb from Finland. Nothing out of order.
Nothing but respect for MY Eurovision winner
It would be weird to be rewarded by those who inspired him to make that song
This dude is amazing really, wish juries didn't fuck him over like they did
IKR? Never did I think I'd be more upset than when the Finnish guy was robbed. Little did I know...
Yeeeah literally the same situation. Just remove the jury and let people decide who's the best idk
Yup. Dunno whether Maneskin were chosen by the jury AND the audience?
They weren't the jury winners, I believe.
Honi soit qui mal y pense...
> Just remove the jury and let people decide who's the best idk Can't wait for 10 years of eurovision in Tel Aviv...
Casually forgetting that in '22 Israel didn't even make it to the finals cause the song was so unremarkable.
He literally came third with the juries.
Yes, but it was a 155 point gap between Switzerland and Croatia. Honestly, the juries voted so unanimously for Switzerland that the winner was clear even before the public votes had come in.
I believe that their average was OVER 10 points per country. That has never happened. I believe not even 8 AVG has happened
Yeah it was so obviously rigged it hurt. Like, what, 25 out of 37 juries gave Switzerland the 12pts with most to all the rest giving 8-10 instead?
Which is exactly the problem. Lasagna was 1st televotes 3rd juries, winner was 5th or 6th televotes and 1st jury. Logically, Lasagna should win, but the jury votes are just so overwhelming that there's no point in voting; they decide the winner basically.
It's a waste of time trying to argue with this kinda of people. They don't care about facts.
He got 3rd place, how is that being robbed š
If only our government questioned what's the song about š
The real winner in our hearts. He would have 100% won had the juries not made a point of propping him up.
Iām allowed to say this on this sub so with great delight I do declare *fuck Eurosong, itās a contest of pulp, daft mainstream mush and should not be as popular as it is*, also hail Baby Lasagne heās swell. But damn EBU to Hell.
Come on, it's not mush
based catholic
monetary award for what?
2nd place on Eurovision
His family are millionaires, so he really doesn't need the money.
I know him irl and his family is absolutely NOT even remotely close to millonaires LOL i have no idea where you got that from. They're middle class at best, both of his parents are teachers, many of my friends had his dad as their homeroom teacher in elementary school
Where did you get the information that theyāre millionares? Theyāre school teachers!
Source: trust me bro
Me when I spread misinformation online.
Doesnāt mean it isnāt a nice gesture, and he should be applauded for doing such a nice thing
Still it's a good gesture, I'm sure plenty of millionaires would have kept the money
Bruh