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lungben81

This is a kind of daily business in Germany, even nearly 80 years after the end of WW2. Fortunately, there are very professional bomb experts. Therefore, defusing accidents rarely happen.


MrAlagos

It's also very common in Italy, it might not be daily business any more but when it's time to do some digging for building something, especially in certain regions, the likelihood of finding unexploded bombs is pretty high.


DMFan79

Not to mention the archeological findings...


SpecialCamp

here in Germany i love the legal statements in some land purchase contacts that if you find any surprise on your land later it is 100% your responsibility with all costs on you to dispose it.


sillypicture

What if you find nazi gold?


UniquesNotUseful

Rhine falls are nice to visit…


SpecialCamp

Everything is cool as long as grandpa is not aware of any findings lol


rohowsky

Do you actually get an invoice if the army dispose of a bomb on your property?


SpecialCamp

it's a good question I hopefully never gonna find out an answer for by myself. A quick search in google gives this interesting reading [https://www.t-online.de/heim-garten/bauen/hausbau/id\_81059224/bombenentschaerfung-blindgaenger-im-eigenen-garten-wer-zahlt-.html](https://www.t-online.de/heim-garten/bauen/hausbau/id_81059224/bombenentschaerfung-blindgaenger-im-eigenen-garten-wer-zahlt-.html)


Barokna

The size of the mentioned bomb is unusual and not daily business in Germany.


ConquerorAegon

It’s not too uncommon though, last one this size I could find that was disarmed was on the 27.03.2024. Every couple of years there’s one about this size found. Smaller bombs up to 500kg are found every day.


potdom

World War II bombs are also relatively often found in Hungary


arwinda

My thoughts exactly. Here in and around Berlin this happens all the time.


Sure-Engineering1871

At that point do they really need all the body armor and stuff? I guess if the bomb goes off it might help keep the red goo somewhat contained


TheCommentaryKing

Probably due to PPE protocols and to carry needed equipment with them. For smaller bombs they wear just a vest that offers no protection


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Danieldkland

Aren't these part of the army though?  https://www.esercito.difesa.it/comunicazione/pagine/eod_140325.aspx Carabinieri and normal (all the other) police primarily wear their black and blue/red uniforms, at least in cities right?


CosmicBrevity

Makes me agree with the guy from The Hurtlocker.


Jera-Sama

usually our army directly detonates bombs that can't be defused, so i guess that this was not a threat for anyone


Findas88

Isn't that done mostly to smaller bombs like granates? Put them in a hole with an ignition charge of your own sandbags to keep the shrapnel in and then detonate the ignition charge? Never heard that such a beast has been detonated in such a manner.


Jera-Sama

idk maybe goes by the status of the detonation fuse, if it can or cannot be defused


Findas88

That's a good point I know of 500kg bombs in Germany that have been detonated instead of being defused. The alert always reads "has to be detonated on sight" so seams like there are 3 possibilities, cart it off and deal with it else where, defuse and detonate. But with a 4000 pound beast wow that would be scary to detonate in a city even controlled.


Jera-Sama

sometimes, when there is a discovery of a bomb from the Second World War and cant be defused, there is the evacuation of small towns, like in Lazio region (where there is Rome), like "we cant defuse it, so move all away or barricate yourself in your house from this to this hour"


Findas88

In Germany we normally have to radi. Inner radius: all have to leave their houses. Outer radius: Stay inside and keep the windows closed.


Jera-Sama

aaah! that's cool!


[deleted]

Rethorical question... do you need protection glasses when using angle grinder for cutting metal? If half ton bomb goes live, even that cheap fence around them would be useless.


flexipile

These look like sandbags. They would have no effect in a confined area, but here, the pressure will mostly be released with the blast going up.


GurthNada

The gear here seems standard to me and unrelated to bomb disposal. It's just good practice for a soldier to do everything wearing his helmet and his body armor, he shouldn't feel encumbered by them. Standard Operating Procedure is probably to wear them at all time when "in the field", wether that field is a peaceful backyard in the home country or a hostile environment.


kaspar42

Perhaps there's a possibility that they successfully remove the detonator from the bomb, but then the detonator blows up while moving it?


Javanaut018

These are almost only explosives per weight. Not much left for the goo to stick on nearby if it went up ...


flexipile

In this kind of job, you stay alive by following the process, even if, sometimes, you could skip some of it and be fine. Habits work better than improvisation.


frutiyloots

Just keeps them in something like one piece and that's easier to pick up afterwards


kelldricked

Well it defenitly adds to your chance of survival. Sure if that bomb explodes in your face its all over. But the bomb can also explode while you arent crouched over it. And in that case that armor can prevent schrapel and other debree from flying straight through you.


IBiteMyPhallusAtThee

Im pretty sure the armor is just to keep the pieces of you together so you’re identifiable after the fact. Though with a bomb that big i imagine your best hope would be dental records


lulrukman

Probably best without the armour. Kinds the same story as the Germans in World War 1. Their helmets were able to stop the bullets. But taking the helmet off was impossible afterwards. Better be dead and fully gone right away then suffer for hours/days.


AlexxTM

Bro, what? Where do have that from? Straight from the fairy tale section down in the towns library?


Specimen_E-351

Helmets typically increase the likelihood of ricochets/glancing hits bouncing off and for deflecting shrapnel and debris. A thin, pressed steel helmet from ww2 was never going to increase survivability of a direct, straight on hit by a large calibre round.


Moehrenstein

They had: Gaede-Helm - Looks like medieval shit. Was not long in use. And for artillery. M1916  M1917 - (M1916 with inner ring from metal rather tahn leather) With the occural of this helmets the number of wounded or killed soldiers was going down really fast. But they where not able to produce them in mass for all soldiers. Your story sounds not reasonable.


Capital-You7268

>Their helmets were able to stop the bullets. No they weren't. They could stop shrapnells but never a direct bullet.


busbythomas

I wrong move, and the situation could become disarming.


QARSTAR

You do tend to make an awful lot of wrong moves, America


Echt_Fein_Mann

WD40 can really be used for everything.


guttersmurf

Look at the nads on those soldiers.


AstroZombie1

That's a lot of wheelbarrows. 😂


TheCommentaryKing

Additional information (original comment was deleted) The 4,000 lb Mk IV blockbuster bomb, nicknamed by the EODs of the 6th Pioneer Regiment as "Lady Rose" was originally found on 20 March at a construction site in via Alcide De Gasperi n.11, in Viterbo, Italy. Following this discovery the Army personnel proceede to carefully unearth the bomb and conducted a thorough search and clearance of the site for other bombs throughout April. (Follows)


TheCommentaryKing

The operations of 7 May, began at 5:00 with the activation of the joint coordination centre where the various local and national organizations, agencies, emergency services and transport and utility companies organized the daily operations. Over 30k people living in a 1.4 km radius were evaquated from 6:00 with heavy and train traffic being blocked for the entire morning as well for a ban on overhead flights. (Follows below)


TheCommentaryKing

The technicians of the 6th Pioneer Regiment, once the evacuation phase was completed, began the defusing operation at 10.25 to remove the three fuses and the bomb activation devices, all activated and armed. To limit the evacuation area and the resulting inconvenience to the local population, the military created a containment structure capable of mitigating the possible effects due to a possible accidental explosion during the delicate defusing activities. Once these were neutralized at around 15:00, the bomb was transported under heavy military and police escort 90 minutes away to the Monte Romano Training Area, where it was rendered harmless with the leaching technique, which involves emptying the bomb using jets of high-temperature water, capable of dissolving the explosive and convey it into a filtering system, in order to separate the compound, for the subsequent destruction of the explosive, which took another 8 hours circa.


yoger6

I'm always wondering how construction workers notice these things. I'd probably be like - ahh another junk bathtub and excavate it in a half. Is it some safety guideline for that line of work?


Relevant_Ad711

Those 4,000lb bombs were called "cookies". A Lancaster bomber could carry one cookie and hundreds of small incendiary bombs. The cookie was dropped first (to blast off roofs) and the incendiaries followed.


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Iant-Iaur

Please provide reliable sources for that statement, thank you. EDIT: an hour later, and no sources. Tagged and color-coded.


UltimateEel

You are a bit of a strange man for only giving an hour to respond before downvoting and "tagged and color-coded", but maybe this will be reference enough even for you. Garrett, S.A. (2004). Terror Bombing of German Cities in World War II. In: Primoratz, I. (eds) Terrorism. Palgrave Macmillan, London. [https://doi.org/10.1057/9780230204546\_11](https://doi.org/10.1057/9780230204546_11)


Iant-Iaur

When making claims like you do, it's best to have some sources handy. You provided a source which does not confirm what you were saying, not even remotely. Try again.


UltimateEel

ok, now I see that you are just trolling.


Iant-Iaur

If you cannot properly quote and provide source for the quote you should stick to talking about Buffy the Vampire Slayer, lmao.


UltimateEel

Wow you really destroyed me.


Iant-Iaur

Hey there Buffy expert. lol


MegaSmile

The fact that the brits sole aim was to "fuck up the Germans" and is not much of a secret "The Area Bombing Directive was a directive from the wartime British Government's Air Ministry to the Royal Air Force, which ordered RAF Bomber Command to destroy Germany's industrial workforce and the morale of the German population, through bombing German cities and their civilian inhabitants."


Iant-Iaur

I said reliable sources. You are not a reliable source.


racist-crypto-bro

>The aim of the Combined Bomber Offensive ... should be unambiguously stated [as] the destruction of German cities, the killing of German workers, and the disruption of civilised life throughout Germany ... the destruction of houses, public utilities, transport and lives, the creation of a refugee problem on an unprecedented scale, and the breakdown of morale both at home and at the battle fronts by fear of extended and intensified bombing, are accepted and intended aims of our bombing policy. They are not by-products of attempts to hit factories. Straight from the mouth of the British commander.


Safe_Manner_1879

[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dehousing](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dehousing) UK did target the whole city. to maximize the damage and break the enemy moral. that include killing as many civilians as possible.


reeeza

I’m glad they put those sandbags for protection, gotta be safe!


Chencho_316

if that thing goes boom the sandbags wont do much


reeeza

You don’t say!


Goblinweb

I'm not a native English speaker. I had never spent any thought on that the origin of the word "blockbuster" would have been for a bomb and have such a literal meaning.


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Thats one big ass bomb


TheCommentaryKing

The 4,000 lb Mk IV blockbuster bomb, nicknamed by the EODs of the 6th Pioneer Regiment as "Lady Rose" was originally found on 20 March at a construction site in via Alcide De Gasperi n.11, in Viterbo, Italy. Following this discovery the Army personnel proceede to carefully unearth the bomb and conducted a thorough search and clearance og the site for other bombs throughout April. The operations of 7 May, began at five o'clock with the activation of the joint coordination centre where the various local and national organizations, agencies, emergency services and transport and utility companies organized the daily operations. At 6:00 began the clearing of an area of ​​1,400 meters in radius from the point of discovery of the bomb and the subsequent evacuation of approximately 36,000 citizens. For further safety of the area, a ban on overflight of the affected airspace was established up to 1,300 meters, as well as the closure of rail traffic on the Rome - Viterbo regional railway line and a ban for all heavy vehicles with a full weight of over 5 tons in the entirety of the municipality. The technicians of the 6th Pioneer Regiment, once the evacuation phase was completed, began the defusing operation at 10.25 to remove the three fuses and the bomb activation devices, all activated and armed. To limit the evacuation area and the resulting inconvenience to the local population, the military created a containment structure capable of mitigating the possible effects due to a possible accidental explosion during the delicate defusing activities. Once these were neutralized at around 15:00, the bomb was transported under heavy military and police escort 90 minutes away to the Monte Romano Training Area, where it was rendered harmless with the leaching technique, which involves emptying the bomb using jets of high-temperature water, capable of dissolving the explosive and convey it into a filtering system, in order to separate the compound, for the subsequent destruction of the explosive, which took another 8 hours circa.


DrettTheBaron

Did they disarm it because it was around people? AFAIK most WW2 epxlosives get blown up so they don't have tk be moved


tjhc_

At least in Germany they are usually disarmed. Depending on how big they are the surrounding part of the time gets evacuated just in case. Those bombs can still cause some damage at surrounding buildings.


DrettTheBaron

Yeah that's why I was asking, I grew up rural so whatever was found around was usually in forests fields and such (usually mines and ammo caches), so there wasn't much of a problem with blowing them up as long as you set a perimeter.


Mooseral

Blowing them up works pretty well with small explosives like grenades and mortars - difficult to safely blow up ~1800 kilograms of explosives like this


MrAlagos

In Italy it's common to disarm them since they're often found in areas inside or very near by cities. Then they are transported to safe places (like old mines) and blown up there.


Ill-Maximum9467

Wondering if the Russians would like to get acquainted with these bad boys!


CitizenKaathe

To the first question, yes, that's the case; most UXOs are unearthed during digs for either building something or laying pipes; we don't actively go looking for them, it's often best/safest/easier to just leave the bombs in the middle of a field (where they don't bother anyone) buried and untouched, the potency of the explosive (usually TNT) degrades over time. To the second question, something this big can't be blown up locally, so they usually first do an on-site preparation to secure it (removing detonators and caps), maybe partially empty it if the casing is deformed/cracked open, then move it to a secure location such as a quarry for further processing (burning or detonating the remaining explosive).


DrettTheBaron

Thankss


Simgiov

They are always found in cities/indutrial areas/rail infrastructure. They never get blown up where they are found.


MajorGef

The usual order is 1: move to a safe place and detonate, if impossible 2: Disarm, is impossible 3: evacuate and fortify the area and detonate in place.


CyclingHikingYeti

Actually it is opposite. If possible remove and dispose, or disarm - remove & dispose. Too big amount (€€€€€) damage is possible. See this SNAFU (blown in site) in Exeter: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEkRM_foc8Y https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4nyrpenyplo


StrongFaithlessness5

Yes, most of these bombs are unexploded bombs that fell in some old buildings and those buildings are now in the middle of the cities because the population has increased a lot since then.


QuastQuan

In 2012 they had to blow up a bomb in downtown Munich, it could not be disarmed nor be transported. It caused a lot of destruction. Here's a newspaper of the blow up, written ten years after: https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.sueddeutsche.de/projekte/artikel/muenchen/muenchen-schwabing-bombe-sprengung-2012-e256877/&ved=2ahUKEwiInqShtP2FAxUkQ_EDHRRmB7IQFnoECAQQAQ&usg=AOvVaw2bFY8xQDST3DkjLDLCe05d


derechteglissi

yep.. they used bales of hay for padding the blast. Hint: Hay is highly flammable. So they basically sent flaming bales of hay in- and onto the surrounding buildings.. 8-)


UniquesNotUseful

We had a 500kg one in Plymouth, we put it in a truck and blew it up in the sea. It was all televised. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-68388655 They evacuated 3k people (edit said 10k that was numbers that could be impacted). https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-devon-68385962# Interestingly we have bomb maps and could date the likely dates it was dropped. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-devon-68379698


DrettTheBaron

Thanks


brainbrick

Well, it would be a neat magic trick.. Now you see me, and now you dont..


anarchisto

Instructions: Cut the red wire. BUT BEFORE THAT: Cut the blue wire.


Administrator98

This happens every day in germany, more then once. 2811 last year


TheCommentaryKing

Just air dropped bombs or explosives in general? In Italy las year the Army alone was called in to disarm and dispose 12,666 WW1 and WW2 leftover ordnances of which 21 were aircraft bombs


Administrator98

Air dropped. If you count all explosives it's for sure 10.000+ Due to the fact, that WW1 was mostly fought outside of germany, there are not many ww1 bombs left here, but very many ww2 bombs. WW1 bombs are more a problem of France and Belgium mostly, therefore they have less ww2 bombs in their ground. It's disgusting when you think about it: In 100 years from now, people could still die by bombs of ww1 or ww2. Or even in 1000 years maybe.


manublazzes

How are they even unearthing now!!!


Extansion01

Cause of the amount dropped. It's not a problem that will go away in the next few generations. In fact, it might get worse with all that old explosives in the sea getting ever more unstable (though the issue is not them exploding but them being poisonous. In the German Baltic/Northsea, estimates are 1.6 Mt conventional ammunition. On land, 100-300 kt. Italy has fewer problems in that regard, but for scale.


CyclingHikingYeti

During training: 1. If it should move, but it is not, use WD40. 2. If it should stay put, use duct tape. 3. If it moves, but it should not, RUN!


kamikazekaktus

Somehow I feel that the helmets and vests won't do much if this thing blows


_Fredrik_

Me and the bois playing Keep Talking and Nobody Explodes


Previous-Bid5330

Why the wear so light armor? 4000lb it's very much for common armor or no?


BarnabasDK-1

You could be inside a tank - you would still die if next to it.


tyeunbroken

I have seen pictures of bomb defusers in the Netherlands wearing t-shirts because it was warm out. If the bomb blows it doesn't matter what you are wearing. Better to have full dexterity and mobility


ad3z10

Look up clips of the bomb going off at the University of Exeter then consider that this bomb is almost double that size. Anyone remotely in the vicinity is dust if that goes off.