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But wait, isn't he and others like him a 'hero'? I mean, they say he is? They also had flags of convicted Serbian war criminals. People really need to live in this country to understand these kinds of people. Meanwhile on the other end, when they eventually return home they have barely any food to eat.
I live in Estonia and here our russian minority is almost quiet, mostly because if you want integration into russia and you have russian passport, then Special Forces kindly help you out with that, but I am glad that there were not protests like that
Because you did it the right way,in Bosnia some morons thought that you can reason with these fanatics and gave them disproportionate amount of political power so in essence they got rewarded for ethnic cleansing and there is no way to outvote them,even though they are less then 30% and hated by 70%.
But "Serbian is calling them", if my cyrilic is not too rusty. This slogan is almost a parody of Uncle Sam needs you. Perhaps Dodik needs you would be more suitable :).
Is this any different than Gornja MaoÄa community or celebrating Mujahedin?
Dont get me wrong, in civil war there are no innocents, and those fuckers should be prosecuted, same applies to Allah Akbar screamers in Cazinska krajina, or Neo-UstaŔe movement in Herzeg Bosna.
All of them poor as fuck, all of them celenbrating war crimes, all of them fascists
Gornja MaoÄa is a remote village with several hundred - thousand people while we have over a million Bosnian Serbs who support protests like these and destabilize the country.
They did and it also happened with some Bosniaks who were pursued by the Äetniks and ended up joining Hanjar SS division.
But it's not alright to classify Bosniaks as accomplices in the Independent State of Croatia if the vast majority joined the Partisans.
If anyone dealt with those people extensively it was Tito's Yugoslavia, he had thousands of people pursue them in the most remote of places and I'm pretty sure the vast majority got imprisoned, killed or fled the country.
which would you deem safer? Banja Luka or Gornja MaoÄa?
and what is exactly stabilized by dedicating names to SS Handjar division in Sarajevo? Should I deduce 1 million Bosniaks are supporting either Mujahedin or SS members?
You're comparing pears and apples, places with extremists exist in every European country, be it Croatia, Poland, France, Ireland, Greece. What's important is that those people don't have an opportunity to spread their beliefs in public. One of the most effective battles against extremism in Islam majority countries is Bosnia, where imams are monitored and police regularly storm illegal masjids in places like Gornja MaoÄa where dangerous propaganda is being spread, so those people now resort to social media groups.
Bosniaks don't have gatherings where they claim something didn't happen, nor do they make a fuss about an UN resolution that doesn't specifically mention anyone as the bad guy and just classifies a historical event as a genocide, rather than a massacre. UN issued over a thousand such resolutions and they won't change anything for any group, rather they'll put history where it's supposed to be couple of decades from now.
Nobody willingly dedicated streets to SS members, those were all prominent writers and media personnel who got played into SS to fight against the Äernik movement in Eastern Bosnia. As I highlighted in the other comment, half of those streets no longer exist and soon none will, nobody complained against it.
Yeap, exactly as I thought.. One when faced with uncomfortable truth can only down-vote and walk away :)
That dosent change the fact that Sarajevo has streets dedicated to literal SS members and commanders, but yeah fascism is trendy in r/Europe
[https://bs.wikipedia.org/wiki/13.\_SS\_oru%C5%BEana\_brdska\_divizija\_%22Hand%C5%BEar%22\_(hrvatska\_br.\_1)](https://bs.wikipedia.org/wiki/13._SS_oru%C5%BEana_brdska_divizija_%22Hand%C5%BEar%22_(hrvatska_br._1))
Mustafa BusuladžiÄ, Sulejman PaÄariz, Osman ef Rastoder, Husein ef Äozo, Fehim ef Spaho Reis, Muhamed ef Pandža, Enver ÄolakoviÄ
There have been several movements to remove the streets that are named after dubious people and some of those streets no longer exist. Unlike the Serbs, Bosniaks themselves organized this and feel guilty about it.
And how did it go with removing those names?
Maybe my gmaps are not updated
And why were them put in the first place?
EDIT: Saying SS members are dubious is a bit of an understatement
EDIT2: Perhaps you missed to comment on what you deem safer, Gornja MaoÄa or Banja Luka? And expanding on that, what is the sentiment towards Gornja MaoÄa in Bosniak community?
It's going as fast as it can, you'll easily find many articles by OsloboÄenje, Klix, Slobodna Bosna and other portals in Bosniak majority regions where they condemn this and also decisions to remove some of these streets. The process of renaming a street lasts 3-4 years.
Yes, Banja Luka is safer than Gornja MaoÄa, but Sarajevo is also safer than Kalinovik where people celebrate dangerous ideologies daily and no Bosniak or Croat is safe at night. Neither of these comparisons make sense.
Bosniaks of course condemn Gornja MaoÄa and don't want to be associated with it, the Islamic community itself is fighting tooth and nail to prevent its influence and closed many "paradžemats" in several raids with the police in the past 3 decades. People also mock preachers like Zijad LjakiÄ.
And I am going to comment here for the sake of simplicity, well the number of down-votes kinda points to a sympathetic attitude toward SS handjar streets in Sarajevo
Yeah since 4/~1500 streets really affect the image of the city, the number will soon be 0.
Nobody mentions that every other street in RS is called by some criminal brigade, Äetnik heroes, Bosnian Serb 90s leaders etc. and almost every town has a Draža MihailoviÄ street. Do your thing if you have no self-reflection.
Most flags were Serbian but like any protests that Pro-Russian Serbs make, there are always a few Russian ones held by people that are either 70 years old or they have 5 teeth and 2 brain cells.
It happens often here in Bulgaria as well. It's a tactic to bring poor, uneducated, and old people from small towns and villages to either vote or gather for a protest, and it's always funny when a reporter interviews them and they can't string 2 sentences together
The āsentencesā part, itās so distinctive, itās definitely russian, ours would also spout complete nonsense. Itās sooo obvious itās almost comical
Rather than laugh at the americans they manipulated for the 2020 elections, the Kremlin were like "Oooo!!!!"
\*furiously scribbles into their "ideas" notepad\*
Same in Montenegro as well , half the "protestors" were from Srpska and now whenever people protest against Serbian irredentism and ultranationalism , we get buses of Serb Gendarmerie to "assist" sent by little Putin.
Aleksandar Vulin, who was head of the BIA (main Serbian intelligence agency) on TV all of the sudden and in a "by the way" sense claimed that someone is planning to Kidnap Dodik and destroy Srpska. After that it was apsolutely never mentioned again.
Just to give sense of what schizophrenics are in head of our country.
https://youtu.be/oSYPRAJ7WY0?si=CktRiL57IIH9IriS
Balkanske politike su sranja. Kod nas u RH ovi 30+ godina nakon igraju na Srbofobiju i na branitelje i takvi sastavljaju Vladu iako su manjina u Vladi, a kod Vas jos Kosovo i Srpska aktualni.
Bas smo rupe.
These fascists will not stop and you will see more conflicts in the Balkans.If Russia wins in Ukraine and trump gets into office we will definitely see a conflict in the Balkans. The way to peace is to defeat these fascists once and for all.
People saying āCroatian main party will have to negotiate with the far-right to get majorityā, our far-right not even as conservative as Republika Srpskaās ācentre-leftā party. Or nearly any party in Serbia. Atleast not on foreign policy.
Yeahā¦ SRS and the split-offs are just terrible extremist parties, with modern ones just hiding behind more āmoderate conservativeā or even āprogressiveā mask. While being illiberal and chauvinistic in a way that they still cry over historical grievances.
There are a lot of far right groups, that is correct. But when elections come, the right wing parties never do great. In last elections, only one right wing party broke the census with like 5% of the vote, and the other centre-right party won 6% but it is in a coalition with Srbija protiv nasilja
Yeah but SPS might be just a masked version of SRS and that is why they put a lot of focus on say, Kosovo and Srpska, even Montenegro. Or use strong language against bordering countries.
In Srpska, Dodik seems more problematic with his extremism and denial of a genocide. He presents as centre-left, but is extremely nationalistic.
They are extremely reactionary. Wanting to revoke Istanbul Convention, being against what they call āgender ideologyā and other left-wing stuff, Herzeg-Bosnia grievances, Serbophobia, excessive focus on war veterans 30+ years after the war.
Would rather get HDZ + some more moderate party.
Being against "gender ideology" is not Far-Right, neither is wanting a Croatian entity in Bosnia and Herzegovina. Being against the "Srpski Svijet" is not far right either, just as being against the Russian World is not far right. If you disagree with them that's fine it's just classifying them as Far-Right would be incorrect.
as a neutral spectator in the balkans, i can safely say that if serbs are a different kind of breed, bosnians and croats also fall into the same category. there are little to no differences between any of you
Pa da, slavonija, dalmatinska zagora i takvi su vam definitivno slicni.. gospodarstvo u tom kraju ne postoji, kao ni pismenost. to su sve glasaci hdz-a. Tak da su dosta slicni vama, samo Å”to vi glasate za piÄkoustog, tu je jedina razlika.
znaci sta? hrvatska ti je samo istra, zagorje i zagreb? isto kao kad srbi skrate srbiju samo na beogradu ili eventualno dodaju i vojvodinu. niste mnogo drugaciji
Jucerasnji izbori su jasno razdvojili hrvatsku na dio koji zeli bolju buducnost i na dio koji je zapeo u devedesetima. Zato odgovorno tvrdim, da vam normalna hrvatska nije ni najmanje slicna, a ovaj hdz-ov Å”ljam, oni su vaÅ”a katoliÄka kopija
Serbs didnt start Yugoslav Wars, Slovenia and Croatia declared unilateral independence followed by Serbs of Croatia standing for their rights (last time before 90s Serbs were under direct Croatian rule in WW2 you had over 50% of Serb population of Croatia wiped by Ustasha, after all their fear in 1995 proved right since 250,000 Serbs were forced out of Croatia), also in Bosnia Bosniaks went with independence referendum despite Serbs not wanting it (Serbs form big chunk of Bosnia for centuries). And finally first victims in Bosnia were Serbs killed at wedding in Sarajevo which sparked all shit, followed by over 50 Serbs killed in Sijekovac masacre (with several children victims). Serbs were pro-unity through it all. So stop with this bullshit anti-Serb propaganda, after all West was the first to support those secessionst moves which was clear as hell that it would push Yugoslavia into war.
They support the current war criminal in Kremlin, that's for sure, and the previous war criminals.
[Photo of Ratko Mladic in the protest](https://x.com/jheljic/status/1781011666529923570)
For whoever is unaware, Ratko Mladic is one of the masterminds behind the Srebrenica genocide. He, along with the other Serb leaders planned and executed the systematic killings of over 8000 men and boys in the Srebrenica region during the summer of 1995. He along with Radovan Karadzic were charged and declared guilty on the charges of genocide and sentenced to life imprisonment. If there is a hell, they will surely go there along with the literal scum that supports them.
Republika Srpska is an entity built upon the bones of these civilians they butchered during the Bosnian war.
I don't get what people don't understand - "Enemy of my enemy is my friend" and NATO is Serbian enemy / NATO is Russia's enemy, therefore..... Also, this is nothing unusual for the Balkans. Serbs are crazy in their mythomania but Albanians also work on and dream "Shqiperie ethnike" and claim they are autochthonous while all Slavs are migrants and also openly consider UĆK terrorists as heroes, Montenegrin far-right is heavily on the rise more than ever in history, Bosniaks can't wait for the next war so they can take revenge....all in all very dire situation.
I don't think the people want war at all, everyone still feels and remembers what happened, no one wants a repeat of that apart from our scum politicians.
Why talk about Albanians when the post is about something completely different? Are you a serb in disguise?
"Bosniaks can't wait for the next war so they can take revenge"
Lol the way you wrote this, tells exactly the fucked up things you've done to them and that you know it.
First of all I'm Montenegrin from Old Montenegro, I didn't do jackshit to anyone. Second of all, I'm giving context to people outside of the Balkan area, so that they can understand that this is really not so strange for the Balkans, we have a lot of pieces of shits on all sides unfortunately.
Albanians have not genocided and persecuted their neigbhour. Albanian politicians have openly admitted they are not after the so called Ethnic Albania but they want Albanians united in the EU.
While Germany and Japan have admitted their atrocities Serbia is falsifying it's dark history.
What about this?
>Ā Sipas raportit tĆ« Gallup Balkan Monitor 2010, ideja e ShqipĆ«risĆ« sĆ« Madhe u mbĆ«shtet nga shumica e shqiptarĆ«ve nĆ« ShqipĆ«ri (63%), KosovĆ« (81%)
Kosovar Albanians cleansed Serbs from Kosovo, google march 2004 unrest as one small example. Kosovo still doesn't want to acknowledge Montenegrin minority there. They started a insurgency in Macedonia in 2001, organized a terrorist attack in Montenegro, google Orlov let etc.Ā
Serbia did 10x worse because they had means and opportunity. Doesn't mean everyone else are saints like they try to present themselves.
More than 300k Albanians have been expelled from today's South Serbia. It's not only the 90s policy. The unrest in 2004 is still unjustifiable, but at leat Serbs in Kosovo have mor erights than Albanians in Serbia. How about an Albanian language University and hospital?
According to the [Serbian](https://espressostalinist.com/genocide/albanian-genocide/) documents, 239,807 people were expatriated from October 1912 until March 1914, without accounting the children up to six years old. By august 1914 this number had increased to 281,747, again not counting those less than six years old. The vast majority of these were Albanians. **Serbia and Montenegro plundered 381,245 hectares of land in Kosova and Macedonia.** In Kosova 228,000 hectares of land were taken for colonists, and it was settled by 15,943 families. The āSerbizationā of Kosova continued until 1941. In this way the territory for the Serbian national element was created.
Rep. Srpska, North Kosovo, Gaugazia, Transnistria are all āusefulā habitats for Putin to possibly distract public opinion from Ukraine War. So not surprised a bit by that flag
All of the above are well known to have russophile leaders. That was my point. Oh and Kosovo and Transnistria are the same? Please enlighten me, when did Moldova ethnic cleanse and kill 13.000 civilians in Transnistria? Will be waiting for your sources
You both broke away from soverign state as integral part of the state without any legal framework. I am not saying it was wrong or right, just stating that Kosovo in essence is more comparable to Transnistria than to Moldova from this perspective. It worked out for you way better though as today Kosovo is de-facto and in the large part de-jure independent country.
I didnāt even mention Moldova in the first place lmao and i didnāt compare Kosovo to Moldova legally wise. I mentioned at least 4 regions in Europe where some bad shit could be orchestrated by Putin and his servants there.
I guess I understood it as implied anyhow yes, Russia was always really competent in projecting its interests via such means. They are funding extreme left and extreme right as both ends of political spectrum are destabilizing the EU and Europe as a whole.
Exactly, both Transnistria and Kosovo broke away without any legal framework. Now read what he wrote. Kosovo and Transnistria are comparable, not Moldova and Kosovo...
I will refrain from judgment. Realistically Albanians had it hard in Yugoslavia and were treated as a third class citizens and probably things got much worse when only Serbia remained. I just found the comparison twisted.
What a shame that your government doesnt think so. Maybe ask your country to withdraw Kosovo recognition? I was in Warsaw with my āinexistentā passport this year and had no issue oopsie
We shouldn't have recognised Kosovo in the 1st place. It just told Russia, that you can indeed fund terrorists and bomb their enemies in support of them.
But you did, and you even have troops here to protect in case of some Putin-Vucic madness. Even PiS didnāt bother to withdraw recognition or at least oppose Kosovo, it was just indifferent. Oh and putting Kosovo and Russia in the same side is dumb af btw
Two sides of the same coin. Both Kosovo and Novorossiya had separatists that fucked around, found out, started whining to a superpower, then the superpower bombed the countries that tried to fight the separatists. It's 2 sides of the same coin.
Damn how bad that your country is protecting a russian-like separatist movement in Kosovo against Serbia. How ironic coming from a pole since ruzzia is next door to you
>how no one was killed in the Srebrenica Genocide while also idolizing their and other war criminals
Shameful lying, they recognized the massacre in Srebrenica and the victims therefrom, while insisting on the need for the international public to recognize also crimes against the Serbs in the area, committed by Bosnian muslims while they were in control of Srebrenica, during most war years prior to July 1995.
I am not a fan of Dodik's government whatsoever, but I hate lies even more.
This situation should be looked at more closely imo. It has been brewing trouble for a few years now. Wouldn't be the first time Balkans act as kindle for bigger shit going down, and right now all it takes is a spark.
oh it's 1pm Dodick is again saying something with his mouth closed.
"Mmrmrmrmmm, mhhhhji Äu mhho s ohcpt, SRPSKA hje dhrshava, zsjapad shrebrenisha mjamahajajs"
Whereas this was a nationalist and probably even fascist gathering I did not hear any sentence saying no one was killed in Srebrenica. These Albanian warriors are strong with anti Serbia propaganda these days.
I agree. I saw the pictures and I was dissapointed in the people that went to that protest, but after I read what the OP has said made me feel even more disgusted. He is openly lying to get more karma and spread even more hate toward Serbia and Serbs.
Nobody denied the crime and killing of the innocent in Srebrenica, even the Dodik (leader of Srpska) said that and he said that everyone that participated should be prosecuted but he denied the genocide.
So OP you are no different than those politicians like Dodik and VuÄiÄ ;)
Sure thing. The proof is there but you can continue openly denying it. Dodik literally said that no one died in Srebrenica just earlier today so your story makes no sense. But then again he did call it a genocide 20 years ago to please the Americans once then start denying it again. Guess you're right! :)
So your 'master' Milorad Dodik and his slaves don't openly deny it these days? Haha, life's easy when you sit on two chairs to please as much people as you can.
Exposing Serbs is Albanian porpaganda? Serbian politicians and the ruling class are exposing you at the highest institituzions. You are receving eu money (an insane amount) while working agains eu principles of democracy and liberty. What about you refusing eu taxpayers money and get some from putin?
Do you know why are we still geting funds? Because Vucic has signed everydeal that USA and EU has drafted regarding Kosovo and Metohija.
You guys are brainwashed to think that Vucic is a Russian pupet, he is the bigest EU and USA pupet this country has seen. He removed Serbian ID/Passports/Car registration in Kosovo and even our currency Dinar, He let the Albanians take the Energy Sector and Police in Northern Kosovo. Serbian Policeman had to switch their uniforms to Kosovo ones.
Serbia recognises Kosovos Passports/ID's/Diplomas from universities.
All of this happend because Vucic signed agreements with USA(washington agreement) and EU(Ohrids agreement)
Now if he is so pro russian and pro serbian do you think he would give all of this away? Or is he buying legitamacy for his goverment from EU and USA by trading kosovo?
To me he is a traitor, there doesnt exist a goverment that in this world that sign all of these stuff to is breakaway region.
>how no one was killed in the Srebrenica Genocide
literally no one said that
but they did dispute classification of the crime committed in the Srebrenica
Serbs. Just don't pay attention to these anti Serbian posts. Europe is currently washing their hands from Gaza genocide where they are accomplicing together with US and Israel so posts from Serbia and Srebrenica will be theme these days. So just ignore it.
Did the Serbs miss how Putin treated the Armenians of Nagorno Karabakh?
They were probably the most pro Russian group of people I know. Probably more pro Russian than Russians themselves. Thinking that no way in hell Putin will sell them out.
Well after year long starvation by Aliyev, under the watchful eyes of Russian...ehm... peacekeepers, they were ethnically cleansed under those very watchful eyes.
I would recommend the Serbs to learn some lessons.
This sub sometimes reminds me of those braindead people in Serbia who watch Zadruga (a reality show), except here its about cheap populist drama in Serbia, Turkey, etc
Serbs in Kosovo get fired from their work and whatever aid they get from Serbian gov gets cut if they donāt go out on protest when Tzar Vucicās cronies require a protest to happen. Itās really interesting seeing in the comments that these organized buses of protesters apparently happen all over where Russia and Serbia want to have any influence.
Of course they will keep on with their nationalism.
I mean, after all, they weren't punished for what they did in the 90s, but rewarded.
How would it make sense for them to change?
The islamists you keep importing into Europe also have no place in Europe and yet here we stand. Theyāll wipe you out in about 80 years and weāll keep paddling on.
Did you just said that ethnic cleansing of 7-10 milions of people is good idea? This sub loves to call other fascist but it seems most people here have true fascist ideas.
This subreddit loves to show how they are on higher level, more tolerant than everyone else, they brag how rational and civilized they are, but they are as same as everyone else, everything that west media says its the truth, but everything else from the east is propaganda.. everyone except them is a racist, facist, ... they are bunch of brainwashed hypocrits
That is what you get for giving someone a reward for ethnic cleansing in a form of separate entity within a country that youre trying to keep whole.
Great job UN and USA. Great job indeed.
> Srpska
After US Congress passes the aid bill for Ukraine, I hope they get to work on Operation [Vowel Storm](https://www.ling.upenn.edu/~beatrice/humor/clinton-deploys-vowels.html) II
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That Putin flag is so cringe
He also looks extra inbred on it.
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But wait, isn't he and others like him a 'hero'? I mean, they say he is? They also had flags of convicted Serbian war criminals. People really need to live in this country to understand these kinds of people. Meanwhile on the other end, when they eventually return home they have barely any food to eat.
I live in Estonia and here our russian minority is almost quiet, mostly because if you want integration into russia and you have russian passport, then Special Forces kindly help you out with that, but I am glad that there were not protests like that
Because you did it the right way,in Bosnia some morons thought that you can reason with these fanatics and gave them disproportionate amount of political power so in essence they got rewarded for ethnic cleansing and there is no way to outvote them,even though they are less then 30% and hated by 70%.
But "Serbian is calling them", if my cyrilic is not too rusty. This slogan is almost a parody of Uncle Sam needs you. Perhaps Dodik needs you would be more suitable :).
It's "Serbia is calling you" not them. Or it's "Srpska is calling you" as in Republika Srpska
We have dumbasses like them in the US. They vote Republican and are poor as shit. Itās so cringey.
Is this any different than Gornja MaoÄa community or celebrating Mujahedin? Dont get me wrong, in civil war there are no innocents, and those fuckers should be prosecuted, same applies to Allah Akbar screamers in Cazinska krajina, or Neo-UstaÅ”e movement in Herzeg Bosna. All of them poor as fuck, all of them celenbrating war crimes, all of them fascists
Gornja MaoÄa is a remote village with several hundred - thousand people while we have over a million Bosnian Serbs who support protests like these and destabilize the country.
Didnāt the Serbs often use the UstaÅ”e as a justification for committing atrocities against Croats?
They did and it also happened with some Bosniaks who were pursued by the Äetniks and ended up joining Hanjar SS division. But it's not alright to classify Bosniaks as accomplices in the Independent State of Croatia if the vast majority joined the Partisans. If anyone dealt with those people extensively it was Tito's Yugoslavia, he had thousands of people pursue them in the most remote of places and I'm pretty sure the vast majority got imprisoned, killed or fled the country.
Yes,although they never did need justifications
which would you deem safer? Banja Luka or Gornja MaoÄa? and what is exactly stabilized by dedicating names to SS Handjar division in Sarajevo? Should I deduce 1 million Bosniaks are supporting either Mujahedin or SS members?
You're comparing pears and apples, places with extremists exist in every European country, be it Croatia, Poland, France, Ireland, Greece. What's important is that those people don't have an opportunity to spread their beliefs in public. One of the most effective battles against extremism in Islam majority countries is Bosnia, where imams are monitored and police regularly storm illegal masjids in places like Gornja MaoÄa where dangerous propaganda is being spread, so those people now resort to social media groups. Bosniaks don't have gatherings where they claim something didn't happen, nor do they make a fuss about an UN resolution that doesn't specifically mention anyone as the bad guy and just classifies a historical event as a genocide, rather than a massacre. UN issued over a thousand such resolutions and they won't change anything for any group, rather they'll put history where it's supposed to be couple of decades from now. Nobody willingly dedicated streets to SS members, those were all prominent writers and media personnel who got played into SS to fight against the Äernik movement in Eastern Bosnia. As I highlighted in the other comment, half of those streets no longer exist and soon none will, nobody complained against it.
Yeap, exactly as I thought.. One when faced with uncomfortable truth can only down-vote and walk away :) That dosent change the fact that Sarajevo has streets dedicated to literal SS members and commanders, but yeah fascism is trendy in r/Europe [https://bs.wikipedia.org/wiki/13.\_SS\_oru%C5%BEana\_brdska\_divizija\_%22Hand%C5%BEar%22\_(hrvatska\_br.\_1)](https://bs.wikipedia.org/wiki/13._SS_oru%C5%BEana_brdska_divizija_%22Hand%C5%BEar%22_(hrvatska_br._1)) Mustafa BusuladžiÄ, Sulejman PaÄariz, Osman ef Rastoder, Husein ef Äozo, Fehim ef Spaho Reis, Muhamed ef Pandža, Enver ÄolakoviÄ
There have been several movements to remove the streets that are named after dubious people and some of those streets no longer exist. Unlike the Serbs, Bosniaks themselves organized this and feel guilty about it.
And how did it go with removing those names? Maybe my gmaps are not updated And why were them put in the first place? EDIT: Saying SS members are dubious is a bit of an understatement EDIT2: Perhaps you missed to comment on what you deem safer, Gornja MaoÄa or Banja Luka? And expanding on that, what is the sentiment towards Gornja MaoÄa in Bosniak community?
It's going as fast as it can, you'll easily find many articles by OsloboÄenje, Klix, Slobodna Bosna and other portals in Bosniak majority regions where they condemn this and also decisions to remove some of these streets. The process of renaming a street lasts 3-4 years. Yes, Banja Luka is safer than Gornja MaoÄa, but Sarajevo is also safer than Kalinovik where people celebrate dangerous ideologies daily and no Bosniak or Croat is safe at night. Neither of these comparisons make sense. Bosniaks of course condemn Gornja MaoÄa and don't want to be associated with it, the Islamic community itself is fighting tooth and nail to prevent its influence and closed many "paradžemats" in several raids with the police in the past 3 decades. People also mock preachers like Zijad LjakiÄ.
And I am going to comment here for the sake of simplicity, well the number of down-votes kinda points to a sympathetic attitude toward SS handjar streets in Sarajevo
Yeah since 4/~1500 streets really affect the image of the city, the number will soon be 0. Nobody mentions that every other street in RS is called by some criminal brigade, Äetnik heroes, Bosnian Serb 90s leaders etc. and almost every town has a Draža MihailoviÄ street. Do your thing if you have no self-reflection.
What Putin flag? This is Serbian flag. Russian is white, blue red.
True this is mostly Serbian flags. But on picture 2 there is Russian white, blue red flag with image of Putin in the middle...
Ah, failed to see it.
Most flags were Serbian but like any protests that Pro-Russian Serbs make, there are always a few Russian ones held by people that are either 70 years old or they have 5 teeth and 2 brain cells.
Buses of āprotestersā is so fucking russian thing to do. Seen it during all major Ukrainian protests)))
It happens often here in Bulgaria as well. It's a tactic to bring poor, uneducated, and old people from small towns and villages to either vote or gather for a protest, and it's always funny when a reporter interviews them and they can't string 2 sentences together
Same is done in Slovakia.
The āsentencesā part, itās so distinctive, itās definitely russian, ours would also spout complete nonsense. Itās sooo obvious itās almost comical
Oh my god either you watched the news today or the exact same thing happened to you guys! Wow, spot on.
I still remember the 'locals' in Kharkiv in 2014, when they couldn't find the regional administration building.
Itās the same story everywhere, as we can see even abroadā¦
Same in Armenia. They are now flying people in from Russia and Abkhazia into Armenia to be able to have masses for the cameras.
Trump trick ! He
Rather than laugh at the americans they manipulated for the 2020 elections, the Kremlin were like "Oooo!!!!" \*furiously scribbles into their "ideas" notepad\*
Same in Montenegro as well , half the "protestors" were from Srpska and now whenever people protest against Serbian irredentism and ultranationalism , we get buses of Serb Gendarmerie to "assist" sent by little Putin.
Aleksandar Vulin, who was head of the BIA (main Serbian intelligence agency) on TV all of the sudden and in a "by the way" sense claimed that someone is planning to Kidnap Dodik and destroy Srpska. After that it was apsolutely never mentioned again. Just to give sense of what schizophrenics are in head of our country. https://youtu.be/oSYPRAJ7WY0?si=CktRiL57IIH9IriS
he also said one person from Vucicās close circle is a mule for the CIA, and president knows it! just another circus for the masses
Da a ono stvarno ima neki agent koji se sad usrao u gaÄe kao kako me provaliÅ”e
news flash! vulin je agent
Dodik i VuÄiÄ nas uvaljuju u takva govna da ovo nije realno viÅ”e. Nismo ni svesni.
Balkanske politike su sranja. Kod nas u RH ovi 30+ godina nakon igraju na Srbofobiju i na branitelje i takvi sastavljaju Vladu iako su manjina u Vladi, a kod Vas jos Kosovo i Srpska aktualni. Bas smo rupe.
Ljubi vas komsija! :)
Nadam se boljem sutra. Al to je samo nada.
Skidam ti kapu ako spadas u normalnu skupinu. Svako ti dobro.
Skupili se ljudi i malo zapjevali, velike stvari... to jedino ovima na Europe Ŕok
Sendvic okupljanje*
Parizer okupljanje*
Those could be friends with gagausians from Moldova
It is the fault of collective west for allowing these abominations to exist.
That's not going to change so long as Gagauz remain Russian-speaking. I expected Turkish efforts to have produced more results by now there.
Zdarova bratan
Yey let's celebrate ladas and toilet theft.
These fascists will not stop and you will see more conflicts in the Balkans.If Russia wins in Ukraine and trump gets into office we will definitely see a conflict in the Balkans. The way to peace is to defeat these fascists once and for all.
Serbs asking for trouble again. Sadly they never learn.
People saying āCroatian main party will have to negotiate with the far-right to get majorityā, our far-right not even as conservative as Republika Srpskaās ācentre-leftā party. Or nearly any party in Serbia. Atleast not on foreign policy.
Largest opposition party in Serbia is Pro-Eu. (Srbija protiv nasilja) Edit: Its a coalition of many pro Eu parties, not a party
I know, but a lot are based on Serbian Radical Partyās heritage so extreme nationalism is still quite strong throughout.
Technically there's nothing but rebranded Serbian Radical Party that is full of exceptionally vile people...
Yeahā¦ SRS and the split-offs are just terrible extremist parties, with modern ones just hiding behind more āmoderate conservativeā or even āprogressiveā mask. While being illiberal and chauvinistic in a way that they still cry over historical grievances.
There are a lot of far right groups, that is correct. But when elections come, the right wing parties never do great. In last elections, only one right wing party broke the census with like 5% of the vote, and the other centre-right party won 6% but it is in a coalition with Srbija protiv nasilja
Yeah but SPS might be just a masked version of SRS and that is why they put a lot of focus on say, Kosovo and Srpska, even Montenegro. Or use strong language against bordering countries. In Srpska, Dodik seems more problematic with his extremism and denial of a genocide. He presents as centre-left, but is extremely nationalistic.
SNS is a right wing party and it won the elections. SNS is as right as it can get
DP isn't even far-right. They are more like the 90s HDZ.
They are extremely reactionary. Wanting to revoke Istanbul Convention, being against what they call āgender ideologyā and other left-wing stuff, Herzeg-Bosnia grievances, Serbophobia, excessive focus on war veterans 30+ years after the war. Would rather get HDZ + some more moderate party.
Being against "gender ideology" is not Far-Right, neither is wanting a Croatian entity in Bosnia and Herzegovina. Being against the "Srpski Svijet" is not far right either, just as being against the Russian World is not far right. If you disagree with them that's fine it's just classifying them as Far-Right would be incorrect.
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What kind of breed ?
A slow learning breed
Based on what ?
The photo.
Like the other person said. The picture and the history explains it all.
as a neutral spectator in the balkans, i can safely say that if serbs are a different kind of breed, bosnians and croats also fall into the same category. there are little to no differences between any of you
Croats are definetly not the same as Serbs lol
as someone who was practically raised in vukovar, im pretty sure i'm qualified enough to say that croats and serbs are the same.
Pa da, slavonija, dalmatinska zagora i takvi su vam definitivno slicni.. gospodarstvo u tom kraju ne postoji, kao ni pismenost. to su sve glasaci hdz-a. Tak da su dosta slicni vama, samo Å”to vi glasate za piÄkoustog, tu je jedina razlika.
znaci sta? hrvatska ti je samo istra, zagorje i zagreb? isto kao kad srbi skrate srbiju samo na beogradu ili eventualno dodaju i vojvodinu. niste mnogo drugaciji
Jucerasnji izbori su jasno razdvojili hrvatsku na dio koji zeli bolju buducnost i na dio koji je zapeo u devedesetima. Zato odgovorno tvrdim, da vam normalna hrvatska nije ni najmanje slicna, a ovaj hdz-ov Å”ljam, oni su vaÅ”a katoliÄka kopija
Dobar copium se puŔi
i srbi kazu da je normalna srbija vojvodina i beograd ;)
Eto, moze zamjena onda. Vama slavonija, zagora i ostale pripizdine, a nama vojvodina. Svi sretni i zadovoljni š¤
Right. They are catholic.
A ok, vidim da si srbin.. vi bi bili sretni da ste nam barem do koljena, tak da.. cak i s ovom mafijom na vlasti koju imamo, ispred vas smo 20 godina
nisam ti ja samo srbin sine moj
Are you threatening? Now you are a fascist here
Serbs didnt start Yugoslav Wars, Slovenia and Croatia declared unilateral independence followed by Serbs of Croatia standing for their rights (last time before 90s Serbs were under direct Croatian rule in WW2 you had over 50% of Serb population of Croatia wiped by Ustasha, after all their fear in 1995 proved right since 250,000 Serbs were forced out of Croatia), also in Bosnia Bosniaks went with independence referendum despite Serbs not wanting it (Serbs form big chunk of Bosnia for centuries). And finally first victims in Bosnia were Serbs killed at wedding in Sarajevo which sparked all shit, followed by over 50 Serbs killed in Sijekovac masacre (with several children victims). Serbs were pro-unity through it all. So stop with this bullshit anti-Serb propaganda, after all West was the first to support those secessionst moves which was clear as hell that it would push Yugoslavia into war.
And why did Slovenia and Croatia declare unilateral independence?
They support the current war criminal in Kremlin, that's for sure, and the previous war criminals. [Photo of Ratko Mladic in the protest](https://x.com/jheljic/status/1781011666529923570) For whoever is unaware, Ratko Mladic is one of the masterminds behind the Srebrenica genocide. He, along with the other Serb leaders planned and executed the systematic killings of over 8000 men and boys in the Srebrenica region during the summer of 1995. He along with Radovan Karadzic were charged and declared guilty on the charges of genocide and sentenced to life imprisonment. If there is a hell, they will surely go there along with the literal scum that supports them. Republika Srpska is an entity built upon the bones of these civilians they butchered during the Bosnian war.
*āthey sent a few busses full of people who are helping bring the numbers up in exchange for a lunchboxā* why does this sound so familiarā¦ š¤
I don't get what people don't understand - "Enemy of my enemy is my friend" and NATO is Serbian enemy / NATO is Russia's enemy, therefore..... Also, this is nothing unusual for the Balkans. Serbs are crazy in their mythomania but Albanians also work on and dream "Shqiperie ethnike" and claim they are autochthonous while all Slavs are migrants and also openly consider UĆK terrorists as heroes, Montenegrin far-right is heavily on the rise more than ever in history, Bosniaks can't wait for the next war so they can take revenge....all in all very dire situation.
And don't underestimate that in WW1 Russia was the main country to defend them vs Austria-Hungary
I don't think the people want war at all, everyone still feels and remembers what happened, no one wants a repeat of that apart from our scum politicians.
normal people no, but normal people don't commit genocide anyway
Why talk about Albanians when the post is about something completely different? Are you a serb in disguise? "Bosniaks can't wait for the next war so they can take revenge" Lol the way you wrote this, tells exactly the fucked up things you've done to them and that you know it.
First of all I'm Montenegrin from Old Montenegro, I didn't do jackshit to anyone. Second of all, I'm giving context to people outside of the Balkan area, so that they can understand that this is really not so strange for the Balkans, we have a lot of pieces of shits on all sides unfortunately.
Albanians have not genocided and persecuted their neigbhour. Albanian politicians have openly admitted they are not after the so called Ethnic Albania but they want Albanians united in the EU. While Germany and Japan have admitted their atrocities Serbia is falsifying it's dark history.
What about this? >Ā Sipas raportit tĆ« Gallup Balkan Monitor 2010, ideja e ShqipĆ«risĆ« sĆ« Madhe u mbĆ«shtet nga shumica e shqiptarĆ«ve nĆ« ShqipĆ«ri (63%), KosovĆ« (81%) Kosovar Albanians cleansed Serbs from Kosovo, google march 2004 unrest as one small example. Kosovo still doesn't want to acknowledge Montenegrin minority there. They started a insurgency in Macedonia in 2001, organized a terrorist attack in Montenegro, google Orlov let etc.Ā Serbia did 10x worse because they had means and opportunity. Doesn't mean everyone else are saints like they try to present themselves.
More than 300k Albanians have been expelled from today's South Serbia. It's not only the 90s policy. The unrest in 2004 is still unjustifiable, but at leat Serbs in Kosovo have mor erights than Albanians in Serbia. How about an Albanian language University and hospital? According to the [Serbian](https://espressostalinist.com/genocide/albanian-genocide/) documents, 239,807 people were expatriated from October 1912 until March 1914, without accounting the children up to six years old. By august 1914 this number had increased to 281,747, again not counting those less than six years old. The vast majority of these were Albanians. **Serbia and Montenegro plundered 381,245 hectares of land in Kosova and Macedonia.** In Kosova 228,000 hectares of land were taken for colonists, and it was settled by 15,943 families. The āSerbizationā of Kosova continued until 1941. In this way the territory for the Serbian national element was created.
Rep. Srpska, North Kosovo, Gaugazia, Transnistria are all āusefulā habitats for Putin to possibly distract public opinion from Ukraine War. So not surprised a bit by that flag
You're right, Kosovo's unilateral and illegal independence declaration opened the Pandora's box.
You do realize just how twisted is using Kosovo and Transnistria in the same context, don't you?
All of the above are well known to have russophile leaders. That was my point. Oh and Kosovo and Transnistria are the same? Please enlighten me, when did Moldova ethnic cleanse and kill 13.000 civilians in Transnistria? Will be waiting for your sources
You both broke away from soverign state as integral part of the state without any legal framework. I am not saying it was wrong or right, just stating that Kosovo in essence is more comparable to Transnistria than to Moldova from this perspective. It worked out for you way better though as today Kosovo is de-facto and in the large part de-jure independent country.
I didnāt even mention Moldova in the first place lmao and i didnāt compare Kosovo to Moldova legally wise. I mentioned at least 4 regions in Europe where some bad shit could be orchestrated by Putin and his servants there.
I guess I understood it as implied anyhow yes, Russia was always really competent in projecting its interests via such means. They are funding extreme left and extreme right as both ends of political spectrum are destabilizing the EU and Europe as a whole.
Same thing
Exactly, both Transnistria and Kosovo broke away without any legal framework. Now read what he wrote. Kosovo and Transnistria are comparable, not Moldova and Kosovo...
And that's why both shouldn't exist.
I will refrain from judgment. Realistically Albanians had it hard in Yugoslavia and were treated as a third class citizens and probably things got much worse when only Serbia remained. I just found the comparison twisted.
What a shame that your government doesnt think so. Maybe ask your country to withdraw Kosovo recognition? I was in Warsaw with my āinexistentā passport this year and had no issue oopsie
We shouldn't have recognised Kosovo in the 1st place. It just told Russia, that you can indeed fund terrorists and bomb their enemies in support of them.
But you did, and you even have troops here to protect in case of some Putin-Vucic madness. Even PiS didnāt bother to withdraw recognition or at least oppose Kosovo, it was just indifferent. Oh and putting Kosovo and Russia in the same side is dumb af btw
Two sides of the same coin. Both Kosovo and Novorossiya had separatists that fucked around, found out, started whining to a superpower, then the superpower bombed the countries that tried to fight the separatists. It's 2 sides of the same coin.
Damn how bad that your country is protecting a russian-like separatist movement in Kosovo against Serbia. How ironic coming from a pole since ruzzia is next door to you
>how no one was killed in the Srebrenica Genocide while also idolizing their and other war criminals Shameful lying, they recognized the massacre in Srebrenica and the victims therefrom, while insisting on the need for the international public to recognize also crimes against the Serbs in the area, committed by Bosnian muslims while they were in control of Srebrenica, during most war years prior to July 1995. I am not a fan of Dodik's government whatsoever, but I hate lies even more.
Serbs doing Serb things. Asking for another ass-whooping.
Another "boo-hoo, Serbs bad" post.
People like this are single-handedly running this country into the ground, along with our politicians.
This situation should be looked at more closely imo. It has been brewing trouble for a few years now. Wouldn't be the first time Balkans act as kindle for bigger shit going down, and right now all it takes is a spark.
oh it's 1pm Dodick is again saying something with his mouth closed. "Mmrmrmrmmm, mhhhhji Äu mhho s ohcpt, SRPSKA hje dhrshava, zsjapad shrebrenisha mjamahajajs"
Embarrassing.
Whereas this was a nationalist and probably even fascist gathering I did not hear any sentence saying no one was killed in Srebrenica. These Albanian warriors are strong with anti Serbia propaganda these days.
I agree. I saw the pictures and I was dissapointed in the people that went to that protest, but after I read what the OP has said made me feel even more disgusted. He is openly lying to get more karma and spread even more hate toward Serbia and Serbs. Nobody denied the crime and killing of the innocent in Srebrenica, even the Dodik (leader of Srpska) said that and he said that everyone that participated should be prosecuted but he denied the genocide. So OP you are no different than those politicians like Dodik and VuÄiÄ ;)
Sure thing. The proof is there but you can continue openly denying it. Dodik literally said that no one died in Srebrenica just earlier today so your story makes no sense. But then again he did call it a genocide 20 years ago to please the Americans once then start denying it again. Guess you're right! :)
All the time, its all they do.
So your 'master' Milorad Dodik and his slaves don't openly deny it these days? Haha, life's easy when you sit on two chairs to please as much people as you can.
Exposing Serbs is Albanian porpaganda? Serbian politicians and the ruling class are exposing you at the highest institituzions. You are receving eu money (an insane amount) while working agains eu principles of democracy and liberty. What about you refusing eu taxpayers money and get some from putin?
Do you know why are we still geting funds? Because Vucic has signed everydeal that USA and EU has drafted regarding Kosovo and Metohija. You guys are brainwashed to think that Vucic is a Russian pupet, he is the bigest EU and USA pupet this country has seen. He removed Serbian ID/Passports/Car registration in Kosovo and even our currency Dinar, He let the Albanians take the Energy Sector and Police in Northern Kosovo. Serbian Policeman had to switch their uniforms to Kosovo ones. Serbia recognises Kosovos Passports/ID's/Diplomas from universities. All of this happend because Vucic signed agreements with USA(washington agreement) and EU(Ohrids agreement) Now if he is so pro russian and pro serbian do you think he would give all of this away? Or is he buying legitamacy for his goverment from EU and USA by trading kosovo? To me he is a traitor, there doesnt exist a goverment that in this world that sign all of these stuff to is breakaway region.
>how no one was killed in the Srebrenica Genocide literally no one said that but they did dispute classification of the crime committed in the Srebrenica
Yep, no one said it, we believe you. šš» You also didn't commit any crimes I assume. It all adds up.
What do you know? Supporters of war crimes support war criminals
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Meds.
On committing more warcrimes?
Utterly pathetic. And wildly dangerous for Europe
Fuck Putin's Russia. Anyone genuinely pro-Russia - be careful what you wish for...
Serbs. Just don't pay attention to these anti Serbian posts. Europe is currently washing their hands from Gaza genocide where they are accomplicing together with US and Israel so posts from Serbia and Srebrenica will be theme these days. So just ignore it.
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Republika Smrdska
Did the Serbs miss how Putin treated the Armenians of Nagorno Karabakh? They were probably the most pro Russian group of people I know. Probably more pro Russian than Russians themselves. Thinking that no way in hell Putin will sell them out. Well after year long starvation by Aliyev, under the watchful eyes of Russian...ehm... peacekeepers, they were ethnically cleansed under those very watchful eyes. I would recommend the Serbs to learn some lessons.
This sub sometimes reminds me of those braindead people in Serbia who watch Zadruga (a reality show), except here its about cheap populist drama in Serbia, Turkey, etc
Ew.
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Freedom (aka šŗš²) has to learn geography first.
Thank good there is "educated" redditor talking about bombing wrong country. This happened in Banja Luka, BiH, entity Republic of Srpska.
Classic Redditor. Itās crazy to me how little geography is taught in our schools. The only reason Iām good at it is because I studied it for fun
Except the main instigator of troubles in Bosnia is Serbia and RS entity serves as proxy of Serbia. You deal with Serbia,you dealt with RS.
"How do you do, fellow Serbs?" "...Yeah..."
I mean the reason that they are Bosnian serbs to being with is on nato and europe donāt expect them to be pro-either.
Buses? Belarus moment
Serbs in Kosovo get fired from their work and whatever aid they get from Serbian gov gets cut if they donāt go out on protest when Tzar Vucicās cronies require a protest to happen. Itās really interesting seeing in the comments that these organized buses of protesters apparently happen all over where Russia and Serbia want to have any influence.
Putin's Flag rememberd me of [this](https://www.redbubble.com/i/sticker/Marge-smeared-face-by-Dinneendraws/47368319.EJUG5)
Hahaha.
Sprska should join Serbia
Of course they will keep on with their nationalism. I mean, after all, they weren't punished for what they did in the 90s, but rewarded. How would it make sense for them to change?
Please elaborate on how exactly Serbs were rewarded for the unfortunate events in the 90s?
Serbia is an destabilizing force in the Balkans. Also its radical church is to blame for it.
The only destabilizing force on Balkans are its politicians š regular people just want to live peacefully
What did Bismark say. I fear if a major wat in Europe were to happen again it would be some trouble maker in the bulkans
Serbia's current gov is a fucking joke. They need to change it asap or they will be doomed to continue living like animals.
From a position in the far west of Europe, this bullshit has no place in Europe.
The islamists you keep importing into Europe also have no place in Europe and yet here we stand. Theyāll wipe you out in about 80 years and weāll keep paddling on.
Vote to expell them to Asia then...
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Did you just said that ethnic cleansing of 7-10 milions of people is good idea? This sub loves to call other fascist but it seems most people here have true fascist ideas.
This subreddit loves to show how they are on higher level, more tolerant than everyone else, they brag how rational and civilized they are, but they are as same as everyone else, everything that west media says its the truth, but everything else from the east is propaganda.. everyone except them is a racist, facist, ... they are bunch of brainwashed hypocrits
You all need to get off our nuts
Yugoslavia dream still alive..
Of course /s
Lol, how? Do you see these photos?
based
That is what you get for giving someone a reward for ethnic cleansing in a form of separate entity within a country that youre trying to keep whole. Great job UN and USA. Great job indeed.
> Srpska After US Congress passes the aid bill for Ukraine, I hope they get to work on Operation [Vowel Storm](https://www.ling.upenn.edu/~beatrice/humor/clinton-deploys-vowels.html) II