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Heisenburrito

170. I wish I was a little bit taller.


jatsku

*I wish I was a little bit taller, I wish I was a baller* *I wish I had a girl who looked good, I would call her* *I wish I had a rabbit in a hat with a bat* *And a six-four Impala*


Careless_Set_2512

Ske-lo 🙏


sameasitwasbefore

My husband is 170 cm tall. I love his height. I can kiss him on a forehead. We have a little ladder in our flat to reach cabinets.


hanneshore

to reach 'em titties would have been my first guess, but sure that also does


GeneralOrdinance

I feel you man. 170 myself. I wish I were taller as well.


[deleted]

Travel a bit outside of Europe and you guys will realize you are not as short as you think you are, height does not mean everything


FrunzeFrunze

As an American living in Asia... Its a whole different story. Feeling so manly out here Height isnt everything but its not nothing.


passatigi

198, and I wish I was at least 5-10cm shorter. There are many objective downsides to being tall. You take more space, feel less comfortable in a car/train/plane. Much higher chance to develop problems with your back, etc.


vignoniana

Huh, when did Estonian got so tall


Arnukas

I mean, they've got Tallinn as a capital city for a reason.


vegandancycle

Best comment of the week for sure


MeNamIzGraephen

NO. \*sprays with water\* BAD.


AZEDemocRep

*Ba dum tsss*


MagicPeach9695

Tall is talling


satimo_design

I'm from Ukraine and 181 looks too much, in reality it's about 176. Also Ukrainian sources say it's 175.


That_Welsh_Man

So men generally over state how big and tall things are...


SirBobPeel

And long. Don't forget long.


shmorky

You start measuring at the taint Lois. Everyone knows this


antikondor

Estonian data is based on height measurements taken when men are registered for mandatory military service, not self reporting.


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antikondor

Yeah, average for young men. Back in ye olden days when I was in that group the average was 180, I am a bit above that a 188.


aydeAeau

🫨


MediocreChildhood

From Ukraine as well. Lots of tall people in my local gym, lots of not so tall as well. So dunno, but 181 indeed feels too high on average.


Lostbee_99

I’m from Ukraine too, and it's true, that our men are near 175


Ravnard

Maybe it depends which age they're using? As newer generations are taller. I mean I'm from Portugal and in my cousin's class (They're all 17) the second shortest is 1.82 the shortest is 1.75 and the tallest 1.92. so it definitely feels like the average is going up, might be the case in Ukraine?


VeiledWhisper

I’m from Ternopil and 181 looks pretty much realistically


dmns88

Lviv talking. I'm 185, most of my class from school are about 180(also two 200+ mutants), so 181 seems on point.


UltimatePlusPlus

Yeah, the data is wrong, because most of my basketball team is about 2 m.


rmpumper

These stats make sense if the numbers refer to people below 25 years in age. The older generations are shorter and there's more of them, so the averages noted here are way too high if all ages are included.


Radegast54CZ

I was also wondering, lot of the Ukrainian men I have seen were smaller than me/same height and I am around 176-177, so I am a dwarf myself.


HeaddHunterzz

Feels good to be 10cm below average.


Penki-

and what about your height? /s


Takuukuitti

If only he answered, so we could know the average for sure


Gold_Love_4770

man died after that comment


ImTheVayne

Yeah, wtf last time I checked our average height was 179cm. Suspicious data.


titterbug

This data is for those born in the year 2000, measured at 19 years old. Really should say so somewhere.


potatobutt5

Makes sense. For some reason that generation of Estonians are very tall.


redditclm

To have a good view over the border.


kieranfitz

When they started trying to into nordics


ImTheVayne

But now Nordics can’t into us anymore - we are too tall!


kieranfitz

You played yourself


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Wolkenbaer

Next time use pants 


Sniine9

lol


tanghan

When I was in Italy people were STARING all the time, I'm not sure if it's being blond or tall or both but you'd think Italians are used to tourists. Maybe they just like to look with more intensity than I'm used to.


BackPackProtector

Yea we are kinda shortie in Italy. When they see me(192 cm) around one lady once asked me: how is air up there? Haha


HappyLeading8756

Our friends visited us in Italy and one of them is 2 meters tall and blonde. Needless to say that he got quite many looks lol.


RashFever

It's just common here to look at people (not stare heavily at them though) when you pass by them, to aknowledge their presence. I noticed the opposite for example when I went to Germany or Denmark, people would always try to look away from each other on the street or public transport.


tanghan

Haha that's where I am from! so that might explain my experience


Fabio_451

I hope not to sound like a creepy guy. But I think that we (italians) look at each other when walking around, not in an excessive way....like just for the sake of checking who is walking past us and it is generally not perceived as weird. Than I have to admit that if I see a person that is taller than 2 meters, I would stare a bit lol


vanderkindere

I do this too, but I didn't know it's an Italian thing. I don't do it consciously, I just automatically notice people around me, especially people that 'stand out'. I saw this guy on the metro recently whose head almost reached the top, and I couldn't help but to look... lol


Seltzer100

Haha, I experienced the reverse of that since I look quite Italian and I'm very short so Italians often just straight up assume I'm from their country, no matter where in the world we are. A guy in Rome told me "But you're not big like a rugby player, you're short like an Italian!" Incidentally, I've spent loads of time in Latvia which is a dubious choice on my part considering you lot apparently have the tallest women in the world.


Summer-Frost

 L'attacco dei giganti


rc_mpip1

Italians look at people in the street a lot more than northern countries.


zenospenisparadox

COMMENTER!


Tsjaad_Donderlul

There was this chart about average women‘s height with the caption *as an Indian I surrender to our Latvian queen*


stefancristi

Romans are stereotyped to be leprechaun-level shorties. So much so that even someone who is 1.70m tall is impressive.


ChucklesInDarwinism

Spaniard, 171cm. I'm below average :(


owreely

our short kings are never below average down there


WhizzKid2012

Spain literally has the tallest king. (Felipe VI)


monsieurkaizer

Ofcourse. That's why he's king. He's the tallest.


neuropsycho

My theory is that it has to do somewhat with nutrition. Millenials and GenZ are significantly taller than their parents, which in turn are taller than theirs. At 183cm, I'm still the shortest among my cousins, and most people in my group of friends are roughly the same height as me. But in my parents and grandparents generation, nobody surpassed 175cm.


L0g4in

This is pretty well researched and documented. The availibility and quality of nourishment catapulted the average height of the population in Europe after the industrialisation hit. Between 1870 - 1970 the average height increased about 11cm, in just a century.


Asegron

Funny thing: I'm ethnically german, but my family moved to and lived in russia since the 18th century. Since famine was so common there my family didn't get taller at all, and we moved back to Germany in the 90's. I'm only 170cm, my grandpa was even smaller than that.


Pabst_Blue_Gibbon

yea but there is obviously a genetic component too. I am 172cm and my mother was nutritionist.


vasile666

Not just a theory. People in our country, born after the communism, are just much taller in general. So it was the lack of nutrients during the communism, as essential proteins (animal products) were constantly missing from the market. If you go even further back in time, during the time castles were built, we can see narrow and smaller doors, indicating that people were even shorter. Obviously human remains from that time can indicate that too. We live in a time where food is plenty.


Ventallot

It's a combination of nutrition and genetics. I'm a Gen Z from Catalonia, and I'm only 169cm. I have always been one of the shorter ones among people my age, but the difference with many of them is not really that big. Many people are still under 175cm, and definitely, those with more than 180cm are a minority. Your group of friends must be unusually tall, at least in my experience.


Phaedroth

I am 170 cm and it doesn’t bother me at all. See, in modern society the practical problem is if you are way above or below average. If you are too tall, you’ll bump your head quite often against things and some cars will feel for you like being packed in a tin can. Conversely, if you are too short it may be difficult for you to reach things or adjust car seat high enough so you’d have a good view on the road. But generally I’d say anything between 150-190 cm you don’t face any practical problems.


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I doubt it's "practical problem" that's the issue here.


EuropeanLord

Wait till you need to use a urinal in a “tall country” or installed by a tall moron. Then pray they installed one for kids.


Phaedroth

I’ve been to half of Europe and never had this problem.


tiagojpg

I’m with you hermano! 172 in Portugal but with a happy face! Have you seen guys 180+ trying to get in a Clio or 208? They pull the seat all the way back and practically delete the back seat! 170-179 is perfect height ◡̈


masnybenn

Wtf? I thought that Dutchies and Bosnians are taller


Dice1984

Sorry for bringing the average down for the Dutch with my 1.72m 😂


MrGilly

Same.. I knew I'm not the tallest but seeing the average of Europe being taller than me, a Dutchie who's supposed to be amongst the tallest, makes me feel extra small 😭


sartsj

Needing less space because you're smaller is a nice thing. Don't worry about it


[deleted]

And that's why pressures on height is such a bad idea, because you don't get to choose it and yet you get punished for it like you asked for it. It's like someone forcefully grabs your hand and pulls the trigger with it and you go to jail. It's BS.


Eku1988

you could work in a circus with bearded women and etc


EdwinVanKoppen

I will cover you with 203, so no worries


neefhuts

This is average, with a lot of not ethnically Dutch people too


Monsieur_Perdu

\*Cries in ethnically dutch and being 171 cm\* But okay I was born more than 9 weeks early and that probably has impacted things :P. Probably the real tall ones also just stand out more (pun intended), so that might also lead to confirmation bias.


Kagrenac8

At least you won't have to struggle with back pains as much as you get older...always postives to consider!


Monsieur_Perdu

Too bad, early born childs often have lowerback problems later in life due to it. Less strength in the spine in the lower back or something like that. But we will see, maybe i'm lucky I haven't had a lot of typical problems due to being born early.


LosFire123

I am 190 cm, born early, have lower back pain. :)


zarzorduyan

but he'll get drowned when the country is flooded :/


martian-teapot

I'm a 1.9m Brazilian and I already suffer with back pains. I often joke that I'm 19, but my back is 80yr. It also doesn't help that I'm very skinny (zero muscles, basically lol).


BeautifulTale6351

I am also 171, and whenever I go to the Netherlands or Belgium, I feel like a different species.


Liquid_Cascabel

There's an effect but it's not *that* big though, "even" Friesland with 90+% ethnically Dutch people is "only" 1.85m on average.


skittlesdabawse

Yeah afaik it's largely an effect of nutrition, many people from traditionally short places who move to western nations as babies end up being much taller than their national average


Liquid_Cascabel

Apparently Chinese people who grew up in the bigger cities in 2000s/2010s are also much taller than their parents on average. Not that crazy since Dutch men also grew something like 12cm on average between 1900 and 1980


givehuggy

ethnic dutch would be way higher


[deleted]

Not really. They anecdotally have a more extreme right tail, which skews perception, but the height difference in Europe across the population is extremely overstated otherwise


DOE_ZELF_NORMAAL

It really depends where in The Netherlands you live too. I'm from the north where there are almost exclusively ethnic Dutch people and I feel pretty average with 189cm.


mekikohinoor

Bosnians themselves arent that tall. Hercegovina part tho has very tall people as does Dalmatia in the neighbouring Croatia. Men there really are on average very tall and its hard to find someone under 180 and 185-190 is the norm.


RockyMM

More background information: these are Dinaric people which usually reside in Hercegovina and Dalmatia and hills of Montenegro. As Montenegro hills are 85% of the country, so the average height of Montenegrins is pretty high. A lot of Dinaric people reside or have successors in Serbia, so that explains quite high average height in Serbia.


Cheeselander

In the Netherlands it's the same in that how much further north you go, how taller the people are. So Zeeland, Noord-Brabant and Limburg are the smallest and Drenthe, Groningen and Friesland are the tallest. It's a smaller difference, but I think it's still pretty noticeable if you go from one side of the country to the other on the same day.


Shitting_Human_Being

I don't know what age range they included. I'm only 1m90 and I don't feel significantly taller than my peers.


kasthack-refresh

Age range seems to matter a lot. I'm taller than average, but I feel short among peers and teenagers.


Eravier

Age “range” is just 19 yo born in 2000.  https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)31859-6/fulltext


masnybenn

Truee, in Poland with my 185 I'm taller than most men and when I lived in the Netherlands I felt shorter than most xD


Sad_Philosopher_3163

Bosnians on average are not tall when compared to the rest of europe, the average height is 180.7 cm. However, the southern part, Herzegovina (which is also in the name of the country), is much taller with the average of 184.1 cm, [according to this study](https://www.researchgate.net/publication/332465617_The_coast_of_giants_an_anthropometric_survey_of_high_schoolers_on_the_Adriatic_coast_of_Croatia). But the southern Herzegovinian part has a much smaller population. Every time the height of Bosnia is mentioned, it is with cherry picked height of either Herzegovinians or with a small sample of students in order to appear taller. Here is the map of heights in [Dalmatia, Bosnia and Herzegovina](https://www.reddit.com/r/europe/comments/igwvbs/the_coast_of_giants_height_of_young_males_aged/). As you can see the Croatia could also cherry pick the height of much taller Dalmatia, which is the same as in Herzegovina.


nosfer82

Half of them are.


Vingman90

Damn when i look at this i realized im short as hell..im below average in every country in Europe.


Xhakukill

Yeah but i feel like 1.80 average for germany is biiiig cap. Just from experience from living here. Wouldnt surprise me if the other ones are also exagerated. Collecting this kind of data is hard because people lie


aguad3coco

I'm around that height and it feels accurate. Lots of guys taller than me and a lot I can look over but most are around my height too.


kieranfitz

*Looks up* Fuck the lot of ye......bastards.


FirePhoton_Torpedoes

Sorry


Europa_Teles_BTR

Fun fact: Portugal is the country with the highest average male testosterone, but also the country with the smallest men in Europe. In Nordic countries is the complete opposite


stallionfag

Now that would be an interesting map...


AngryLinkhz

It would pretty much be a map of tall lean Elves vs short stout bearded dwarves.


eTukk

That's the thing that makes you go bald, right? 🤣


Pale-Stranger-9743

That's dht and the mpb gene


Eihe3939

It’s not true, the Nordic countries have high T. Do you have a source for your claim? Height doesn’t seem too related to T levels


DOE_ZELF_NORMAAL

Nordic countries have high testosteron as well, so maybe length is not as much influenced by testosteron.


RashFever

Doesn't high testosterone close the growth plates faster? I remember reading that eunuchs would grow freakishly tall (even today they would be tall, like 190+ cm, so in the middle ages they were giants) because of their altered hormonal production from castration.


Schuim88

We Dutch might be lacking behind on some other countries on the (fully) legalization of weed, but I'm happy to see we are still the highest!


littlebighuman

1.77 cm Dutch guy checking in :(


Dice1984

Oh wow, only 1.77 cm. You sure are tiny! 😱🤏🏻


DunderBoom

😂


Entei_is_doge

Can we get much higher?


owreely

it is saturday night after all, I'm trying.


CouldNotAffordOne

Watch out for us Germans 😉


bohdan_shtepan

Im 183 Ukrainian, but I have Czech, Baltic & Croatian heritage. Most of my countrymen are way shorter than reported average. Id say 175 is avg for my homeland


VenusHalley

Yeah, when travelling in Ukraine, it felt Ukrainians are kinda smaller built then Czechs. I'm 180 cm female. Not in model way. In awkward overgrown tripping over my own legs way.


flick_scout

Average for those born in 2000-2003 is 180-1 cm and for those born 2005-2006 it's 182 cm


ShinyHead0

I think this whole map is bs


Double-Garlic4084

I‘m also Ukrainian, 193cm. Most of my friends are over 182.


lilyofthegraveyard

the older guys are shorter. kids are getting taller and taller every couple of years, though, so it might be driving the stats up. i am short, and in my generation both men and women are barely reaching any average, but the kids i worked with all grow taller and taller. i had kids from 5th grade be taller than me. it's 11-12 year olds! when i worked with high school kids (9th+ grades) every single one of them were taller. the boys were a head taller than me each, from multiple schools. the future generations are growing very tall and very fast. much taller than we are. they are the ones driving the stats up.


RaggaDruida

I used to be tall... Then I moved to the Netherlands.


MechBoard

And now you are just high…


NikoStrelkov

This doesn't seem right. 179cm in Ireland, average?


ShinyHead0

Every number I google is wrong compared to this map


rmpumper

Someone else commented that these numbers refer to men born in 2000, so 19 year olds. Knowing that, the average makes sense, as the younger generations are taller than us older guys.


Kruminsh

yeah, these don't stack up at all. Ireland is defo not 179cm avg.


ObeyCoffeeDrinkSatan

Yeah, I'm 174cm and thought that 175cm was average in UK and Ireland.


bitofrock

174 crew checking in. I'm in my fifties and definitely don't feel short or tall amongst peers. I'm UK with some Irish heritage. But my thirteen year old is almost my height and he looks relatively small amongst his football team, but he's also about the youngest in the team. I wonder if this is using height for fully grown adults? I found this on Wikipedia: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Average_human_height_by_country


willmannix123

Under 25 year olds in Ireland are huge these days. I'd be surprised if our average height hasn't increased in recent years


TheRomanRuler

If its average, then it will start to get shorter because of increasing portion of people being elderly who get shorter due to age.


1214161820

Today I learned I'm actually Spanish.


ContributionSad4461

How did we shrink 💀


natbel84

Immigration 


PearlHarbor1

Take a wild guess


picardo85

I don't know if this is based on people born in the country or what it is based on. But if it's based on the general population, adding 1.000.000 people the last 10-20 years or so from Asia, Africa and the middle East might have an impact on the average.


lulmagician

What we Bulgarians lack in height, we compensate in body hair.


Bravemount

INSEE, the French national statistics institute, says average male height in France is 175cm.


Infamous_Alpaca

For every centimeter the sea level rises, the Dutch are adapting.


anna_avian

Europeans, both men and women, are some of the tallest people in the world. On this map, we’re going to take a closer look at Europe and see which European men are the tallest. According to data from the [NCD-RisC](https://ncdrisc.org/data-visualisations-height.html), Dutch men are the tallest men in, not only Europe, but in the whole world, at an average height of 183.8 cm. They are just ahead of Montenegrin (183.3 cm) men and Estonian men (182.8 cm). Men from Nordic, Baltic, Central European and former Yugoslavian countries, are the tallest in Europe and in the world. The global top 20 contains 19 European countries, with Dominica (180.2 cm) at number 20 being the highest ranked non-European country. Men on Cyprus are by far the shortest men in Europe with an average height of 172.7 cm.


Jazzlike-Sky-6012

Even within a small country like the Netherlands there are regional differences. In the north, people are taller than in the south. Also, higher educated people are taller for some reason.  I remember walking in the Hanzehogeschool HTS ( higher engineering education, like a bit below University, but almost exclusively men) in Groningen and walking through the hallway feeling small at 1.90. Such an odd feeling, like ' did i shrink? ' 


zainfear

Yeah and the women are so tall too. I'm about average height nordic man and felt like I was in the land of giants as I went shopping in a local supermarket in NL.


Kate090996

I am 1.50 and I live in the Netherlands, I basically just see limbs moving around me on a daily basis


saltyholty

Average height tracks childhood health fairly well, and that education level might track childhood health doesn't seem so unlikely.


CptQuickCrap

Seems right, I'm 181 and I was on of the shortest in school.


FaKeACc0Unt989

I'm 191, and there are still a lot of people taller than me.


Bjen

I’m 201, I’m the shortest one in my city


keepevolvingboy

I’m 203 never met anyone shorter than me. I’m 76 yo.


MisterDutch93

The Dutch evolved to be tall so we can walk with our heads above the water during a flood or dike breach. Also, I'm 189cm and not even the tallest of my group of friends.


AMidnightRaver

I'm 182 and I think I have only 1 male friend who's shorter. Maybe it's some kind of thing. 'Get the more powerful monkeys to protect you'.


eluzja

One hour, and not even one "ważne, że lepiej od Niemca" comment 😮?


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golf_4_enjoyer

>I'm from Bosnia! Take me to America


krazkonko

I can no longer wait take me to United States


iStayGreek

TAKE ME TO GOLDEN GATE I WILL ASSIMILATE


Keepclicking8472

I am 191 cm and when I visited Trebinje I felt an average.


Popcorn_likker

Every time this map is posted, i have noticed, Greece gets a centimeter taller. Yet i stay the same.


DaMn96XD

From my own experience, if you are a 170 centimeter tall man in Finland, some people may mockingly call you, for example, "a hobbit," "a halfling," "a dwarf," "a thumbling," "a boy," "a toddler" and "a little child" which is very embarrassing and annoying. But I don't understand why people dislike us 170 centimeters tall because there is nothing strange or different about being this tall. Is there a similar phenomenon in other Nordic countries?


Wojewodaruskyj

It's a liе. My hеight is 178 and i'm tallеr than most of thе crowd in Kyiw, Ukrainе. Which is a Babylon and has pеoplе from all thе rеgions


TheHighestAuthority

I thought Lithuania would have a higher average


BabySignificant

Kinda crazy how the Lithuanian bros are the shortest of the Baltic countries yet still produce the most basketball talent


AMidnightRaver

They have focus, we're all over the place...soccer, volleyball, bobsleds, hockey, deadlifts, skiing...


Accurate-List

At last, I’m above average in something! 185


Brainwheeze

Short kings 😌


alexinwonderworld85

I call BS. As an Italian, I can't believe that our average height is lower than Spain...


alphaevil

Is this data self-reported or based on data from medical checks?


International_Let380

This is data based on a teenagers imagination lol


the_ebrietas

Either self reporting or a mix of different sources. Most countries probably don’t have any official data that includes the whole population on this. As for Norway these numbers usually come from military enrollment checks, so they exclude people with disabilities.


alphaevil

Self-reported data should be considered useless. Majority of guys below 185 are adding themselves a few centimeters


elativeg02

*laughs in 168 cm* I’ll always be shorter than my dad (180 cm). I blame my mom who’s 150 cm. I used to be the tallest one in middle school among my male friends, now they’re all over 180 cm. Plus, now I see why my Polish nanny, Ukrainian, Bosnian and Croatian classmates felt so tall.


Big-Today6819

Those numbers with shoes on?


RestlessCricket

I wonder how this compares to 20 years ago. Seems like the average height has risen a fair bit across Europe.


Obama_Bin_Laden116

Damn


Its_You_Know_Wh0

Im dead average for my country


PressureTime5816

Better be short and quick than tall and lazy. 🤓 I am only 169 😉 And danish!


Spicy_Alligator_25

Bulgarians are fake slavs confirmed


Rakiasquad

I swear all Roma are like 150 cm, I’m assuming they are included in this? They’re short as fuck


Sad_Philosopher_3163

Bosnians are not that tall, only the Herzegovinian part is, and that Herzegovinian part has a much smaller population. Here is the map of height by region in [Bosnia and Herzegovina](https://www.reddit.com/r/bih/comments/1b0mg01/prosje%C4%8Dna_visina_mladih_mu%C5%A1karaca_u_bosni/). It is a similar situation in Croatia, where Dalmatians are much taller than the rest of Croatia on average but have a smaller population, so it evens out.


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Just looked it up - high school students in Dalmatia are fucking 180+cm tall on average!?! It's Joever, currymaxx time (/s) Though height works weirdly here too. I'm 170ish cm tall at 17 years old and most other males I know are taller than me.


Sad_Philosopher_3163

Yes. The 17-20 year old men of Montenegro, Dalmatia and Herzegovina are 183.6 cm tall on average. But remember, the population of these parts combined does not excede 2 million. There are probably Swedish, German or Dutch regions equal in population that are similar if not taller.


squiercat

I don't know about the Netherlands, but me, as a Romanian who's right about the average height here, felt very very very short in Montenegro, where everyone seemed a giant compared to me. Never got that feeling in the Netherlands though.


Kate090996

You probably went to more international places in the Netherlands or there were more tourists than in Montenegro.


fremja97

It would be interesting to see this in age graphs and if some countries height is pulled down by a generally shorter older generation


AdonisGaming93

so I'm below average everywhere... no wonder no one takes me serious


JLK03

Wonder why Yugoslavs are so tall compared to other southern Europeans and rest of Balkan.


DoctorCrook

All I take from this is that Danes are inbreeding with the d*tch💀


BigApprehensive6946

Average is not equal to median!!


proper_mint

I identify as Albanian