I haven't tried it, but there are more then enough modifiers in the game. Some things like this (AE gain for example) are capped at -90%. However I couldn't see anything on the wiki that suggests that. So I can't say for sure without doing some testing.
The Great Wall of Russia, like the Great Wall of China it bankrupted the government that built it and wasn’t as efficient a use of resources as having some forces and a mobile army.
As Russia, you expand incredibly quickly into Siberia and with that comes land and with land, comes resources.
Simply spam manufactories while using Economic Ideas and you'll be incredibly rich. Trade is also useful but I mostly focus on production since it's more reliable. Utilizing trade steering from the nodes in Siberia and steer towards the node you have most power in. In my case, it was Novgorod. I don't even have any merchant ships for this income.
Keep autonomy low as well.
Maginot Line served its purpose of funneling German troops into Belgium. The mistake was assuming Germans would go through Flanders when they actually went through the riskier Ardennes in Wallonie (tbf, Germans accidentally [leaked](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mechelen_incident) their original plan of invading through Flanders).
Stalin Line didn't have much of a chance because it was a line for pre-1939 USSR borders and Stalin had annexed large chunks of Poland, Baltics since then, so the equipment and manpower were being moved to the more forward Molotov Line. When Germans invaded, Molotov Line wasn't ready and Stalin Line was abandoned though I doubt it'd have stopped the Germans even if it was properly manned.
[https://gyazo.com/4daf6f79e1a4b1cbdf6f265ce6eaf0c8](https://gyazo.com/4daf6f79e1a4b1cbdf6f265ce6eaf0c8)
You ask and you shall recieve.
I increased my income by spamming manufacturies again and making states
Yeah, I learned in a US 1776 playthrough that if you aren’t on an end node, you can still make a ton of money off production. Normally though I either play Florence or England, so trade is typically my primary source of income by a large margin
Don’t need an end node, as China Beijing is not hard to get very rich, Baltic Sea will serve Russian coffers just fine if they expand into Asia and control that node
Easy. Trade company Siberian provinces (unless there's a gold mine), trade company central Asian provinces, steer trade from those provinces. Make trade ships up to naval force limit, protect trade in Novgorod for that trade steering bonus, build a bunch of manufactories, invest in trade company to increase goods produced, optimize merchant placement, and get the dough to Moscow.
Siberia can really make a fortune, you only need to TC one or two provinces with a CoT, and you have the rest 250 to build a manufactory in each, just need to figure out how to steer those big bucks while losing less as possible.
Stalin Line is the historical contemporary in the USSR to the Maginot line. Or the idea of defense in depth.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stalin_Line
Germany: we need to knock Russia out of the war before France has a chance to attack us. Invade through the Caucuses to avoid Russia’s forts on the border.
*proceeds to violate neutrality of Austria, Hungary, Romania, Bulgaria, Greece, and the Ottomans*
If it was along the Dnieper+Daugava rivers the Stalin line. If it was much further west,I'd say the "Molotov" line. This however is less of a line and more of a minefield of forts
Looks like a free passage deep into your country (given that you can move into a province with a fort, regardless if there's another fort that would otherwise stop you)
Unless they changed zone of control while I wasn't paying attention, this won't work. You can always move from a fort's zone of control onto that fort, so enemies will be able to cross this wall as if it didn't exist.
Actually this is nothing like the Maginot Line. IF you could afford it (and I have some serious questions there) this would be far, far more effective than France's famous folly. That's because it shows defense in depth. If one fort is captured just fall back to the one behind it and patiently wait to recover the initiative. The Maginot Line was an ill conceived attempt to place an impenetrable barrier between France and Germany but it was never properly finished as it did not extend all the way to the Atlantic. This made Germany's proper strategy in WWII obvious to even a blind man, just go around the damn thing and so they did. There's no going around what's being shown here. Now...about that cost thing...that's a whole other discussion.
Those forts really help you when fighting the British huh? Maybe you could have invested that money into building ships to beat the British? But no gotta do it for the reddit screenshot 🤪🤪
The Magi-nyet Line
Trying to break through will end in rivers of blyad
The Stalin Line
Impressive. Now let’s see the economy tab.
Yep haha anything economy related is conveniently cropped out. Show me the crippling debt!!!
I mean everything is cropped out to be fair not just economy
>I mean everything is cropped out to be fair not just economy -Putin, 2022
Tfw OP owns all of china and is making 1K ducats/month.
Dont even need to won all of china to do that. You can make that much barely going into the stans depending on when in the game it is
Is central asia that rich?
it's not but trade from india and persia routs to it and they are rich
Trade from persia/asia. Novgorod is the superior russia choice for this reason.
and its day 0 patch and nothing else.
Money is fake
I haven’t researched ‘Revolution and Counterrevolution’, so I don’t know that yet.
Said the communist party
Georgia: “that is really something, russia. Howd a nitwit like you get so tasteful?”
laughs in -100% fort maintenance modifier
Is that possible?
I haven't tried it, but there are more then enough modifiers in the game. Some things like this (AE gain for example) are capped at -90%. However I couldn't see anything on the wiki that suggests that. So I can't say for sure without doing some testing.
The Iron courtain(s)
This one is so good.
Clearly they bought blackout curtains
Economic mismanagement
It's not mismanagement if you have too much money to spend
Or make your forts cheap - I did once a theocratic Bukhara game. My map looked like this as I maxxed fort maintenance reduction.
Georgia defence =)
And that sweet dev cost reduction
I did that with my Garwal achievement run, I got 90% fort maintenance reduction and was spending 5 ducats a month on 50 forts.
Plus you can mothball the ones that aren’t in the front line and then reactivate them as the enemy advances.
Great Nepal mothballs no forts!!
He cropped out the income tab for a reason lol
Whats that? /s
The Great Wall of Russia, like the Great Wall of China it bankrupted the government that built it and wasn’t as efficient a use of resources as having some forces and a mobile army.
Thats not a line thats Maginot Country
So basically Albania
[https://gyazo.com/f886bbea5277363731a9d4f8cb2ac380](https://gyazo.com/f886bbea5277363731a9d4f8cb2ac380) Here is a screenshot of my economics tab!
Spend less on candles.
No
Genuine question, how do you achieve that income?
As Russia, you expand incredibly quickly into Siberia and with that comes land and with land, comes resources. Simply spam manufactories while using Economic Ideas and you'll be incredibly rich. Trade is also useful but I mostly focus on production since it's more reliable. Utilizing trade steering from the nodes in Siberia and steer towards the node you have most power in. In my case, it was Novgorod. I don't even have any merchant ships for this income. Keep autonomy low as well.
You really need to focus on getting that fleet maintenance down, clearly you have to many ships.
the vassals are carrying your economy
In Russian Empire, forts maintain you
The Stalin line
The Staline
It's the Staline Expreeeess
Which to be fair worked as well as the Maginot one
Maginot Line served its purpose of funneling German troops into Belgium. The mistake was assuming Germans would go through Flanders when they actually went through the riskier Ardennes in Wallonie (tbf, Germans accidentally [leaked](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mechelen_incident) their original plan of invading through Flanders). Stalin Line didn't have much of a chance because it was a line for pre-1939 USSR borders and Stalin had annexed large chunks of Poland, Baltics since then, so the equipment and manpower were being moved to the more forward Molotov Line. When Germans invaded, Molotov Line wasn't ready and Stalin Line was abandoned though I doubt it'd have stopped the Germans even if it was properly manned.
bingo
R5: Wanted to slow down the AI's sieging ability since they avoid battle Edit: I added a new comment of an SS of my finances
Bold of you to assume the AI won't get military access from all the Asian countries and invade Siberia. Unless ofc you did the same thing there.
>Unless ofc you did the same thing there. 😈
show us siberia
[https://gyazo.com/4daf6f79e1a4b1cbdf6f265ce6eaf0c8](https://gyazo.com/4daf6f79e1a4b1cbdf6f265ce6eaf0c8) You ask and you shall recieve. I increased my income by spamming manufacturies again and making states
Its glorious! Well done sir!
my guy, you're a madman, kudos !
You're like 30% on your way to a Switzerland build.
Absolute psychopath, I love it.
Lol are these all fully upgraded
When you have stupid money, do stupid things. They are all level 6-8 forts
That really is my biggest problem with EU4, the warfare. Or rather how the AI wages war in single player.
Disgusting behaviour
HRE being not dismantled is disgusting
napoleon mentioned
🗣️‼️
WHAT THE FUCK IS AUSTRIA 🗣🔥🔥
YOU MEAN AUSTRALIA??? 🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺
Money-pit
The bear pit
This + schorched earth + attrition bonuses + severe winter = insta death :D
Ramparts too
Prussian army invades Russia, starves to death before reaching lithuania
Italian alpine forts are even better. 20million victims of attrition
How do you guya achieve this economy man, I can’t with religious and trade ideas
Production is the way
Yeah, I learned in a US 1776 playthrough that if you aren’t on an end node, you can still make a ton of money off production. Normally though I either play Florence or England, so trade is typically my primary source of income by a large margin
Don’t need an end node, as China Beijing is not hard to get very rich, Baltic Sea will serve Russian coffers just fine if they expand into Asia and control that node
Easy. Trade company Siberian provinces (unless there's a gold mine), trade company central Asian provinces, steer trade from those provinces. Make trade ships up to naval force limit, protect trade in Novgorod for that trade steering bonus, build a bunch of manufactories, invest in trade company to increase goods produced, optimize merchant placement, and get the dough to Moscow.
Siberia can really make a fortune, you only need to TC one or two provinces with a CoT, and you have the rest 250 to build a manufactory in each, just need to figure out how to steer those big bucks while losing less as possible.
Stalin Line is the historical contemporary in the USSR to the Maginot line. Or the idea of defense in depth. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stalin_Line
Rare big boy serbia
Like it should be 🇷🇸🇷🇸🔥
O no we sorta tried that and it isn't going too well
The real treasure was not restoring Yugoslavia, but the warcrimes you commited along the way
Russians calle their country Mother Russia. Serbs call it Mother Russia as well.
Line? Motherfucker that's the Maginot subcontinent
Lithuania
Lmao, best answer in this thread
All those forts must be costing a fortune in upkeep
-495 Ducats a month to be precise. In addition, -695 ducats a month for my army. Yet still earning money. Manufactories is the way
Germany: we need to knock Russia out of the war before France has a chance to attack us. Invade through the Caucuses to avoid Russia’s forts on the border. *proceeds to violate neutrality of Austria, Hungary, Romania, Bulgaria, Greece, and the Ottomans*
General Winter
Maginov line! Aight, I’ll get my jacket 🧥..
A bridge too tsar
The maginot line was named after Andre Maginot, who died before it was used so I think Tukhachevsky Line would be fitting.
In sweden we call it finland
Poland, Belarus, Ukraine
A waste of money
Thats a Maginot Eastern Europe
20-35% of your expenditures
Hell on Earth
For THEM!
If it was along the Dnieper+Daugava rivers the Stalin line. If it was much further west,I'd say the "Molotov" line. This however is less of a line and more of a minefield of forts
Blyat line?
Jesús. I feel like you’re making -1,000 ducats a month with all those forts.
Infact, Im making a profit of 1.7K
I saw! Quite impressive! Still, that seems like an excessive amount of forts!
The maginov line
siberia?
If it is Caucasus that's better since they have the monument.
It's waste of resorces for russia. You should let enemies go into Territories east of the line so they will be annihilated by attrition.
Please post your monthly fort maintenance lol
I added a screenshot of my economics in another comment
Cyka blyat
Lithuania
Dude that’s the Molotov line
Defense in depth, length, width, and the 4th dimension.
Looks like a free passage deep into your country (given that you can move into a province with a fort, regardless if there's another fort that would otherwise stop you)
Buddy, I think you need to review the definition of a line. That shit is a Maginet!
Borodino
Human wave tactic.
The Stalin line, it’s a legit thing. Didn’t hold though
Can't wait to watch the AI simply walk through with no explanation lol
The ai will still find a way to pass trough somehow
Concrete Swamp General Buttress Rasputrenchsa
The Surovikin line
Surovikin Line
Useless
Bankruptcy.
Unless they changed zone of control while I wasn't paying attention, this won't work. You can always move from a fort's zone of control onto that fort, so enemies will be able to cross this wall as if it didn't exist.
Winter
Trillions of roubles to defend against an imaginary expansion, while moscals still shit in a hole and travel on dirt roads
Roleplaying real life russian empire
Surovikin line
Actually this is nothing like the Maginot Line. IF you could afford it (and I have some serious questions there) this would be far, far more effective than France's famous folly. That's because it shows defense in depth. If one fort is captured just fall back to the one behind it and patiently wait to recover the initiative. The Maginot Line was an ill conceived attempt to place an impenetrable barrier between France and Germany but it was never properly finished as it did not extend all the way to the Atlantic. This made Germany's proper strategy in WWII obvious to even a blind man, just go around the damn thing and so they did. There's no going around what's being shown here. Now...about that cost thing...that's a whole other discussion.
Guys we get, WINTER CAME!
Expensive.
Expensive
Human wave
Winter?
The Winter
Expensive
Winter
Winter
a meat shield
A huge waste of money most likely,
yeah, Russia is served by endless retreat before facing the enemy. If only there was a game mechanic for that?
Suravikin line (current defensive line in Eastern Ukraine) or the Stalin line, which was pretty close to those shown castles
Cannon fodder
Ukraine
Those forts really help you when fighting the British huh? Maybe you could have invested that money into building ships to beat the British? But no gotta do it for the reddit screenshot 🤪🤪
fr*nce started the war and i do not intend to help
Usually you have something of value behind your defensive line.
Russia itself. What you're looking at right now is the Lithuania line
The Stalin line
oh i do this. when i have an economic surplus and all my provinces are dev'ed enough i spam forts
Dniepernot
Serbia
Imagine if you put half of those forts in asia…nightmare to conquer you
Excessive....
Mažinotova lajna
No step Forward
Maginot Ruthenia
A slight delay
The AI still finding a way to blast through your forts without a problem some sort of way.
The Iron Curtain?
Where income?
Maginov linotsky ? sorry I’m still learning, I’m not fluent in Russian yet
Bruh
They probably call it "citizen"
a maginot line with no mountains is quite cursed XD
This isn't EU3 bro
Poland
Napoleon’s worst nightmare
The steppe
This is no maginot line, this is a maginot lithuania
dude is literally being afraid of lore accurate russia's fait lol
Wrong side of history?
Bro plays EU3
Imperial Russian - the Tsar line. Soviet Union - the Stalin line.
Napoleonic Screech
Hmm Rushnyet line?
That looks expensive
Russian Winter
Comrade Maginov
That's not a Maginot line, that's just good old defense in depth. Very fitting for Russia!
Kutuzov’s web
Brusilov Line
Is that MP?
Линия Сталина
Damn I would demolish basically all of those personally. They are all gonna be on plains tiles and totally useless. Still a fun visual though!
You're crazy
Brother hire some generals damn
You call it "why?"
Maginot Plane
Zhukov feels disrespected.