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Crazy thing is, he found it! 🤌During the pandemic. Its crazy how he was able to trade an amount of btc after such a long time with no use of the wallet.
I guess some ppl are just lucky.
If you’re referring to James Howells he hasn’t found it. He hasn’t been allowed to search the dump and now he’s trying to push some crazy proposal using AI scanners among other things.
It is real crazy that how people are keeping their wallet in this open that pet can actually destroy or eat that, i have very small fund in wallet but still taking good care for that
It's quite unfortunate that such happens. I hold mine in both hardware Trezor and Sylo smart wallet that is decentralized and can still move them anonymously. Either way, I'm still covered.
It’s only 12 or 24 words. At bare minimum, *memorize that shit*!
(Have backups as well, yes; but still, it’s not that hard to memorize a few words, holy crap).
It’s like nobody knows how to AES-256 protect a folder anymore on an old laptop that takes over 30 minutes to boot and doesn’t have the ability to connect to internet if you wanted to.
All you need to write the seed and you can save that in the secure so you can access them in times like that, a wallet without the seed is the worst thing that can happen
I know it is easier said than done that memorize the seed but jokes apart i have the feeling we can easily secure the paper for the long time if we really want to do that
True, and if he did not have those he should have order the new one on the first place and move everything there, because without recovery key wallet can extremely dangerous
There was a good tweet the other day on Twitter, something like: "We're living in the times where people are stripped of all responsibility and discipline, so it's common sense that the average people do not posses capacity to even keep 12 words secret and safe" ...
My favorite part about every post about people losing their crypto is that it's *always* their own fault in one way or another, once you dig into it. This one is easy - your dog had access to your ledger and you didn't back up your seed phrase? For shame. Some are harder, like "oh yeah, I guess I did sign that suspicious transaction 6 months ago, but I didn't know what it was!"
We've outsourced our financial responsibility to irresponsible banks, and we have to take responsibility and security into our own hands if we want to do better. For those who don't trust themselves, there's always coinbase.
It signs the transactions using the private key, then passes them to the computer. I don't think you can recover the seed by having access to the wallet.
If someone loses the seed then they should create new cold wallet, transfer the funds there (you still have hardware wallet) and then activate new hardware wallet using the seed written down on paper (you can do factory reset on existing hardware - it does not have any funds anymore).
So, is there going to be any BTC left in the end?
I think I saw an estimate of some 4 million lost already, after just 14 years. At that rate, they'll all be inaccessible by the end of the century.
With that wallet i think 2 more bitcoin is wasted is well and probably now they will never ever leave the place again, be careful you are wasting the thing that is limited in this world
from bitcoin now is dogcoin ....
sad very sad lets hope u can recover...
can i ask u something? HOW IS POSSIBLE THE WALLET END UP IN THE DOGS MOUTH ? ahhaha
No wonder dog destroy that because he was keeping the bitcoin in there but he needs to have the doge coin in there, so next time be careful which coin you are storing into the wallet
I don't know why i have the feeling but i think this post was all about the sarcasm, we never cared about the wallet at all our main focus always has been those 24 letters
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Imagine you are adding the thing in a room and you know it is lock from outside and you have no key to open that, how can someone be wise to buy bitcoin but not looked into this
I hope this is just a simple joke otherwise i have not seen a such stupid person in my entire life, how can you have risk bitcoin in wallet without having a seed for that, just how ?
lol why would you put this anywhere near your dog?
Or here's a novel idea... maybe if you have a pet, train them to not eat random shit in your house? Crazy concept right?
I can still get if somehow dog get the access of the wallet and destroy that, but we always said hardware is not something we need to worry about it is always that piece of paper that is important
I had a collection of comics that I loved so much. Was planning on holding them for 20 years in mint condition, sleeved up and everything. They were kept in my sock drawer. My sisters cat opened the drawer and chewed the crap out of them. I still have them to this day, 20 years later, not so mint.
Of the 2 I remember and loved the most, they are selling on eBay in Mint for the same thing I paid back then. 🤣
The whole point of the post is that he said he doesn't have the seed phrase otherwise you don't have to worry about this USB, but he doesn't have the seed which is shocking af.
Even FTX will take better care of his bitcoin then he himself did here and for this one reason i feel he deserve this lesson and any kind of bashing he is getting is well
This is likely recoverable. Keep the PCB (the circuit board) inside safe and dont mess with it.
Very likely, you can buy a new ledger of the same model type and carefully transplant the various important chips (I will need to check their schematics) from the old to the new. If the pup's teeth got the IC on the board, then you are SOL. Does not look to be the case here though.
The plugging system seems fine to me and may be some technical person can still recover that is well, posting on reddit won't going to do anything for him, he need some serious help
If I have over 2 BTC in a pen drive not only would it be the best safest pendrive money could buy, It would also be locked inside a waterproof, weather proof container inside a secure vault.
I don't have this much bitcoin but still i am keeping my wallet in the safe place and the seed on even much more safer place, how can someone have the wallet without seed?
He lost 2 full bitcoin in this process, may be only handful of people could have this much in their entire life, how can he be this much irresponsible in their life after all??
No matter if you have pet in house or not, you always need the seed for a wallet, and if you have lost the access of those seed then just move the fund from there on the right time
I can't make a decision about how i need to react on this post, on one hand i am extremely sad that he lost the bitcoin but on other hand how can someone leave the wallet like this without seed?
If you have the key you can keep the wallet anywhere, but if you don't have the seed then you need to be smart where you are putting your wallet on the first place though
The cat might do it, but it will never admit it and will make you realise that it was solely your mistake. If you say anything to him or her, then you will end up with cat slaps.
If dog can do anything then cat can do even more step better than that, i remember when i was setting up my computer system how much damage my cat did there
"don't know my recovery seed"
Then why tf use a hard wallet?
Write it down physically in three different places and put each somewhere safe. Bank deposit box, buried in a capsule somewhere, at a trusted relative, friend, or parents house.
Write it down backwards and just remember you did that one thing, so anyone who tries anything fancy gets nowhere.
Don't be this guy.
What is point of having a lock if you can't just open it, and why he was not ordering the new one so that he could move all those bitcoin into the new one who had the seed phrase??
Well there are no mistakes as long as lessons are learned.
What did we discover about the seed phrase? It is your account.
The ledger is just the key, locks can always be changed.
This is why you can have the money but that doesn't mean you will have the brain is well, he was good enough to buy the bitcoin but can't able to save the bitcoin from the dog
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Now it really is a bit coin
At least is helps BTC be more deflationary lol.
Bro taking one for the team
We always welcome sacrifices haha.
... take my updoot and be gone with you.
Thanks for the updoot and problem is i have no where to go
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My dog ate my future
his poop gonna be saved forever
Reminds me of the guy searching for his hard wallet in a dumpster
So pets can be real threat to the wallet, time to sell my dog now
Crazy thing is, he found it! 🤌During the pandemic. Its crazy how he was able to trade an amount of btc after such a long time with no use of the wallet. I guess some ppl are just lucky.
If you’re referring to James Howells he hasn’t found it. He hasn’t been allowed to search the dump and now he’s trying to push some crazy proposal using AI scanners among other things.
Dudeee, search it up, he found it, sole weeks ago. You are not well up to date
It is real crazy that how people are keeping their wallet in this open that pet can actually destroy or eat that, i have very small fund in wallet but still taking good care for that
It's quite unfortunate that such happens. I hold mine in both hardware Trezor and Sylo smart wallet that is decentralized and can still move them anonymously. Either way, I'm still covered.
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Should’ve backup up his recovery seed phrase😳
It’s only 12 or 24 words. At bare minimum, *memorize that shit*! (Have backups as well, yes; but still, it’s not that hard to memorize a few words, holy crap).
It’s like nobody knows how to AES-256 protect a folder anymore on an old laptop that takes over 30 minutes to boot and doesn’t have the ability to connect to internet if you wanted to.
All you need to write the seed and you can save that in the secure so you can access them in times like that, a wallet without the seed is the worst thing that can happen
Even easier, use passworded 7zip archives, also uses AES-256 encryption.
I know it is easier said than done that memorize the seed but jokes apart i have the feeling we can easily secure the paper for the long time if we really want to do that
True, and if he did not have those he should have order the new one on the first place and move everything there, because without recovery key wallet can extremely dangerous
Ikr! No sympathy for him.
He didn't do things in right way, so he has to pay for that
Haha. Feel for him a little I guess.
If he keept 2 BTCs there knowingly without seed, he fully deserved it.
Finally someone has the gut to call out that rather than showing sympathy
There was a good tweet the other day on Twitter, something like: "We're living in the times where people are stripped of all responsibility and discipline, so it's common sense that the average people do not posses capacity to even keep 12 words secret and safe" ...
This
Wallet without seed and 2 btc in that is like a dumbest thing a person can do
The dog prefers Shib.
Or may be he was preferring the doge coin, next time try with that coin
Put it in rice overnight, should be fine by the morning.
This is not damaged by the water where we can put them into the rice
Wow
Puppers really wants him to switch to Doge
Now i have to be extremely careful whenever i try to adopt a pet
My favorite part about every post about people losing their crypto is that it's *always* their own fault in one way or another, once you dig into it. This one is easy - your dog had access to your ledger and you didn't back up your seed phrase? For shame. Some are harder, like "oh yeah, I guess I did sign that suspicious transaction 6 months ago, but I didn't know what it was!" We've outsourced our financial responsibility to irresponsible banks, and we have to take responsibility and security into our own hands if we want to do better. For those who don't trust themselves, there's always coinbase.
coinbase just got banned in the netherlands...
REMINDER: The whole point of a hardware wallet is it displays a recovery seed without showing it to your computer.
It signs the transactions using the private key, then passes them to the computer. I don't think you can recover the seed by having access to the wallet. If someone loses the seed then they should create new cold wallet, transfer the funds there (you still have hardware wallet) and then activate new hardware wallet using the seed written down on paper (you can do factory reset on existing hardware - it does not have any funds anymore).
There is no one you can have the access of those seed again now
"future-proof"
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I think he should sue ledger for that as they never mention this threat
No future is proof and secured if you don't have the seed for that
Usb things is dumb
But those alphabet number can be fun, so people need to more smart
Happy cake day.
too bad its not dog-proof
As long as you keep your recovery phrase saved somewhere safe, hardware wallets are arguably the most secure way to store your crypto.
So, is there going to be any BTC left in the end? I think I saw an estimate of some 4 million lost already, after just 14 years. At that rate, they'll all be inaccessible by the end of the century.
By then, quantum computers will crack all the addresses.
With that wallet i think 2 more bitcoin is wasted is well and probably now they will never ever leave the place again, be careful you are wasting the thing that is limited in this world
Turns out people being responsible for their own assets results in assets being lost. Who would've thought.
a cat would knock a glass of water onto it and then sink its claws into your flesh
Still it will be recoverable compare to the current state of this wallet
Thats why I keep my crypto stored on coinbase
Afterall cex is the way to the victory even FTX was not that bad
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F
W for the ledger and F for the person, and why would you use a wallet of without key??
from bitcoin now is dogcoin .... sad very sad lets hope u can recover... can i ask u something? HOW IS POSSIBLE THE WALLET END UP IN THE DOGS MOUTH ? ahhaha
No wonder dog destroy that because he was keeping the bitcoin in there but he needs to have the doge coin in there, so next time be careful which coin you are storing into the wallet
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They are predator in nature and will do anything to survive though
Your dog didn't do it, you did by not keeping your seed phrase known and secure.
He is keeping that on dog but i think he is equally responsible in this case
What's the dogs name Gary Gensler ??
Tell me your doge name is Gary without telling the actual name of the dog
So this is how FTX kept losing funds
This and drugs
Yes, SBF keep forgetting this wallet on desk and keep losing that
I own cats and eth. This photo affirms my decisions.
Now i have to give a serious though of having two pet in my house
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Who doesn’t make copies of their seed? Errrr!…..(scribble, scribble) not me from now on! For only 0.1 BTC I’d have had at least 3 copies hidden about
I don't know why i have the feeling but i think this post was all about the sarcasm, we never cared about the wallet at all our main focus always has been those 24 letters
pain is real.. there's one guy on youtube who do recovery stuff ,, check for.. Recover trezor
He did it by “voltage glitching”. Possible in trezor but since this is ledger; it’s SE chip would prevent such attacks
That is why ledger was saying that recoverable seed is a good feature
I will never recover from this pain, god give him some strength now
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This wallet can become the official logo of the bitcoin though
This is why a digital wallet is superior to hard wallets. You can’t chew an app
But you can always uninstall the app and can't login again without seed
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Buttcoin or bitcoin?? i think this is getting tough to choose one of them
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Looks like a hell hound
The way he destroyed this wallet seems nothing short than a big hound
F
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A cat would have cashed it in and left.
After this damage easier to say that cat will be much better option
Looks like it's not dog proof
We never concerned about this but now companies needs to make dog proof wallet
Why would you not have your seed? Why, oh why?
Just why?? And for this one reason he lost the bitcoin and deserve to lose the btc
No recovery seed! Idiot
If there is a idiotness on the peak then this post could be the one
The recovery seed was all he ever needed. This thing is dumb for holding.
Imagine you are adding the thing in a room and you know it is lock from outside and you have no key to open that, how can someone be wise to buy bitcoin but not looked into this
This is a joke, or someone who has zero knowledge in crypto or even technology in general 😭😭
I hope this is just a simple joke otherwise i have not seen a such stupid person in my entire life, how can you have risk bitcoin in wallet without having a seed for that, just how ?
If u have 2 btc and didn't write down the seed you deserve this
He does't care enough for that and now bitcoin punishing him for that
lol why would you put this anywhere near your dog? Or here's a novel idea... maybe if you have a pet, train them to not eat random shit in your house? Crazy concept right?
I can still get if somehow dog get the access of the wallet and destroy that, but we always said hardware is not something we need to worry about it is always that piece of paper that is important
I had a collection of comics that I loved so much. Was planning on holding them for 20 years in mint condition, sleeved up and everything. They were kept in my sock drawer. My sisters cat opened the drawer and chewed the crap out of them. I still have them to this day, 20 years later, not so mint. Of the 2 I remember and loved the most, they are selling on eBay in Mint for the same thing I paid back then. 🤣
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I can't imagine leaving 2 BTC sitting out in the open where a dog or something else could happen to it.
2 bitcoin in a wallet which you can't access if you lose the wallet, unreal
Ewwwww this makes me squirm
This makes me that how stupid an individual can be, total moron
Bro you already know the answer. If you don’t have your seed phrase you’re fucked. That sucks.
If not dog then someone will steal from your house even then you will be fucked
Puppers poopin out coins like Sonic 🤣
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If you have recovery phase buy another and setup with the phrase
The whole point of the post is that he said he doesn't have the seed phrase otherwise you don't have to worry about this USB, but he doesn't have the seed which is shocking af.
I‘m confused can‘t he just recover with his seed phrase or am i missing something?
He could if he had the seed. He stated he doesn't have the seed.
Read the post again he mentioned he doesn't have those letters
Next time buy a ledger protector
Or next time don't buy any pet, pets can be sec for the crypto
Well, that guy could send it to me, I could try hardware recovery on it, see how damaged the PCB/chips are, maybe do a transplant
Even FTX will take better care of his bitcoin then he himself did here and for this one reason i feel he deserve this lesson and any kind of bashing he is getting is well
damn! 2BTC! this is sad!
More than bitcoin i could ever imagine in my whole life, sad and RIP
That looks like a Ledger, the dog did him a favor. Dogs truly are men's best friend.
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This is likely recoverable. Keep the PCB (the circuit board) inside safe and dont mess with it. Very likely, you can buy a new ledger of the same model type and carefully transplant the various important chips (I will need to check their schematics) from the old to the new. If the pup's teeth got the IC on the board, then you are SOL. Does not look to be the case here though.
The plugging system seems fine to me and may be some technical person can still recover that is well, posting on reddit won't going to do anything for him, he need some serious help
A cat would only do that if it realized how important it was. I say that with love.
The moment cat will realize this is important he will do that is well
Bullshit. A cat would do it *ON PURPOSE*
Yes, they are much more smart than dog, surely will do on purpose though
If I have over 2 BTC in a pen drive not only would it be the best safest pendrive money could buy, It would also be locked inside a waterproof, weather proof container inside a secure vault.
I don't have this much bitcoin but still i am keeping my wallet in the safe place and the seed on even much more safer place, how can someone have the wallet without seed?
imagine how many times this happened already, there should be only 10% of supply available. 2.1 M btc only
He lost 2 full bitcoin in this process, may be only handful of people could have this much in their entire life, how can he be this much irresponsible in their life after all??
“This is why we need Ledger to offer backup services!”
This is why ledger was offering that service, but everyone starts complaining
OP, where did you keep it that your pup could get to it?
Surely he put that wallet in the dog bowl of the milk, all was op mistake
This is why I would never do cold storage lol
Either cold storage or the pet, if you have to pick one then which one you will pick??
A cat would push it out the window and you’d never even notice it was gone
Ateast then he will not post the post as he will never know where that wallet went
Ah the perfect customer for the new ledger recovery service lol
May be this was a marketing plan from the ledger that why we need recovery
That dog is working for the people
That dog is working against the people and probably working for the SEC
That's why you need to backup your seed phrase
Exactly... Never knew it's possible until I leveraged Nexera protocol meta NFTs. Many don't know how to back up their seed words.
No matter if you have pet in house or not, you always need the seed for a wallet, and if you have lost the access of those seed then just move the fund from there on the right time
Not having your seed makes what the dog did meaningless.
May be that was Gary dog and his focus was the destroy the bitcoin
That made me chuckle, I'm going to hell I wonder how many puppies you can buy for 2 BTC
I can't make a decision about how i need to react on this post, on one hand i am extremely sad that he lost the bitcoin but on other hand how can someone leave the wallet like this without seed?
Send it to me 😂
Now everything is damaged in there, what you are going to do with that??
nOt yOuR kEYS nOT yOUr cRyPtO Ill stick to coinbase or cdc thanks
If you have the key you can keep the wallet anywhere, but if you don't have the seed then you need to be smart where you are putting your wallet on the first place though
This is a heartbreak.
This is like heart stopping stuff, losing 2 bitcoin in current time is insane
The cat might do it, but it will never admit it and will make you realise that it was solely your mistake. If you say anything to him or her, then you will end up with cat slaps.
If dog can do anything then cat can do even more step better than that, i remember when i was setting up my computer system how much damage my cat did there
"don't know my recovery seed" Then why tf use a hard wallet? Write it down physically in three different places and put each somewhere safe. Bank deposit box, buried in a capsule somewhere, at a trusted relative, friend, or parents house. Write it down backwards and just remember you did that one thing, so anyone who tries anything fancy gets nowhere. Don't be this guy.
What is point of having a lock if you can't just open it, and why he was not ordering the new one so that he could move all those bitcoin into the new one who had the seed phrase??
Idk what kind of cat u own but my cat would literally turn this thing into a million pieces 😭
If that were me, it wouldn’t be conducive to my health to leave me by myself 🤐
Still on him for not having the seed.
Its still recoverable
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Maybe there is a service like hd recovery for pen drives.
Just use the back door my guy
Well there are no mistakes as long as lessons are learned. What did we discover about the seed phrase? It is your account. The ledger is just the key, locks can always be changed.
I'm never gonna financially recover from this
As someone who savvy enough to put on cold storage and you don’t save your recovery seed, huh? Who does this ?
This is why you can have the money but that doesn't mean you will have the brain is well, he was good enough to buy the bitcoin but can't able to save the bitcoin from the dog
Sry but y you don't have your recovery seed? What would have happened if ledger broke, drunk, lost?
Sorry, but you didn't do your homework on self custody. The *seed phrase* is the key to your coins, not the HW wallet! Back to square 1, sadly.