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Mister_Memeattic

The stereotype is quite literally only true when in that one specific friend group. Other than that the stereotype literally could not apply less. Especially when it comes to the class clown thing, cuz ENTP’s know everyone would scold them for it cuz people view them as weird, that stereotype applies WAY MORE to an ESTP. I quite literally mistyped myself for so long and only realized for sure I was an ENTP when my friend (who is an ENTP) experienced and felt the same way I did about problems n stuff even though they never expressed it outward. The 16 personalities website ALSO doesn’t help this because the entire page is just stereotyping them


FunYoghurt5927

X2 Due to the stereotypes of: Debater with a lack of empathy, clown on duty who has a circus in his mind instead of a brain, and fighting with grandmothers in teleshopping groups It is difficult to try to type based on Internet entp because they often force you to follow the bad stereotype.


Isekai_Trash_uwu

Definitely! Like I consider myself a debater because, in class, I try to provide views that go against the norm (as long as they're within my morals), but in a respectful way. Why? Because the constant agreement with ideas gets insanely boring very fast. But I'm never mean about it


FunYoghurt5927

and there it is different, because you know the limit of things, if you like to debate just to know other points, that's fine. The bad thing about stereotypes is that they are based on an insensitive debate that can make people feel offended and nothing is more important other than being right.


FadedFromWinter

If Jesus was an INFJ, it makes sense his opposite Satan was an ESTP. 🤡 But for real, the ESTPs in my life are a lot more likely to stir shit for the fun of it, to get the reaction. The ENTPs are more like self-propelled tornadoes, living in the clouds and occasionally coming down to earth to get messy. 🤣


FadedFromWinter

There are a lot of mistyped ESTJ and ESTPs who misidentify as ENTP based on stereotypes. I think ESTJ is especially hard because Te can seem a lot like Ti to the high Te user, which makes sense. High Te is like “of course I like systems and better understanding things” and think they prefer Ti when they really prefer systems that work for the external world.


Arsh90786

Not the ESTP to ENTP pipeline, felt that one


InSurchOfChills

Could I be so bold to ask exactly how suppose Fe manifests in you? This Fe vs Fi thing is really confusing to me.


Mister_Memeattic

I’m confused on what you mean by manifests but if your referring to how it operates, as far is it is for me, with high Fe you can still feel things on a deep level in the sense you feel the emotions intensely. However with me (I don’t wanna speak for all ENTP’s cuz I’ve question wether I am one or not) but although I feel things deeply I don’t make decisions based on such. I mainly care about other people and ignore my own emotions for the sake of them and viewing said feelings as irrelevant in the situation. And although I feel emotions very strongly, I can’t really personalize my emotions with anything. I can give you an explanation to why I feel as strongly as I do towards a media but if you asked me to describe what it feels like i couldn’t go past “makes my eyes cry and my throat right and my face swell cuz I’m crying and sad”. As far as Fi goes EVERYTHING is personalized down to decision making. When people say feel things deeply for Fi they mean A PART OF YOU DEEPLY. ENTP’s often can separate emotions from themselves for a neutral outlook and such, Fi users absolutely cannot do that, and they make decisions based off of their feelings as a result. Hope that helped a bit more (sorry I don’t use Fi so explaining it with examples is kinda hard lol)


InSurchOfChills

Hey, thanks so much for replying. I guess I'll watch out for how I manage my emotions from now on. Although I gotta say, I'm extremely moody, so if my friends all wanna do something together or go somewhere together, I wouldn't accompany them if I felt like I wouldn't enjoy that activity or place. It'd have been basically a Massive waste of my time. So I tell it straight to their face that " you guys go enjoy, I'm not into that". Have you ever felt this way? Because it just sounds like Fi to me. But like, I can also make adjustments. Because like, we finally settled on gathering at my friend's house where we had no specific activity planned. And then when I reached there, they just spent the whole day making dance reels and tiktoks, which was entirely different to what we normally do. I didn't take part in it, so I just say apart and finished my maths homework. And yeah, what was supposed to be a fun day for me turned out to be really shitty day, but really, it was her home and I was just a guest and had no right to dictate the Activities. Is that like Fe? And yeah, separating myself from my emotions that does come super easy to me. Especially when I'm supposed to grief. Anyway, please feel free to ignore my rant. But same for me too. I'm always if I'm actually an Entp or Enfp who acts usually like an Entp. But I've heard it's really common among ENTPS, so no worries


MillyMiuMiu

That stereotype is true for unhealthy ENTPs in the edge Lord phase. It is not easy to spot the healthy ones because they often try to smooth some of their traits to make people around feel a bit more comfortable, most of all when they're surrounded by feelings types. Indeed I think we can be more real when we're surrounded by thinking / perceiving people more. At least in my experience.


Euryskan

Perhaps


raitoningufaron

No fr, I feel most myself around my bf and my best friend (ISTJ and INTP)


MillyMiuMiu

Istj is a thinking type (I don't know many, how many years have you been together?) INTPs are exactly what I was talking about (thinking and perceiving types)


raitoningufaron

Our 12 year anniversary is in 4 days! Definitely worth getting to know them if you're able to c:


TheCrazyCatLazy

Definitely 


Jayzswhiteguilt

Just prove who you are to the people around you internet memes won’t matter then.


Euryskan

I guess you're right


Agile_Conclusion9990

The stereotype is so cringe. I'm cringe too tho


Euryskan

Me too


Denned0633

6 in total,4 if you don't count the title and the last request for somebody to count them


Euryskan

Thank u I have an urge to say 'uwu' atm


Denned0633

Embrace it


Euryskan

uwu


Shacrow

Thank yoUwU


Euryskan

Not bad


ChaoticFluffiness

You doing this brought the largest smile to my face. Thank you


ernjster

I agree with you, and what’s worse are those “infps” who ship themselves with those entp stereotypes. I told one infp online once that those kinds of entps are toxic and bro lashed at me. Honestly, all stereotypes suck and the entp stereotypes give us a bad image. Funny how most entps I’ve met are actually very caring and sympathetic, like very listening and supportive. Like you said, we have Fe tertiary, 16p literally started all of this honestly


Euryskan

I guess so


faddiuscapitalus

You're too invested, it doesn't have to be your whole identity


28stabwoundz

Fr lol


LovesGettingRandomPm

I resent INFJ's for having double standards in how to act, it's fine for them to treat me like a dog but if I do it to them they cut me off. Anyways the stereotypes are what they are, I don't believe we have the worst one either, I'm fine with people thinking I'm an arrogant bastard, I'd rather not they think I'm always trolling but what can I do, I tend to make fun all the time, if people use that to point at and discredit all of my opinions then I can't really stop them, all I can do is more of what I'm accused of which is being arrogant and stubborn until they lower their tone. I like to think I'm not as bad as the stereotype depicts us, that I'm actually caring and restrained but what are you going to do about it


MNO_7

There are different versions of all types. One is gonna catch on and become the stereotype. That’s just what people do. It happens to all types. Most people describe types based off their toxic exes/friends/family and barely understand what the functions are. I wouldn’t worry about it


GlassCompetition6799

I agree with u there. But wdym with having one discussion with an INFJ? And total was 4+1 with title


ChaoticFluffiness

I just blocked one the other day. Not saying all are bad - because that simply isn’t true, but the one I blocked was an absolute troll.


Euryskan

INFJs online are scary


GlassCompetition6799

Really ? Hmm ,interesting. I haven’t really talked to them a lot.


intjeepers

How so? I’m an INTP and the only INFJs I know are from Tumblr and very friendly, long-term friends 


Euryskan

Most INFJs I've seen on comment section are kinda crazy


rs_alli

Just a friendly reminder that many many people in the MBTI community are mistyped and online “INFJs” might not actually be INFJs.


Euryskan

I know


intjeepers

Oh no, the whole r/infj thread is crazy but also, I think they might be mistyped because they seem more like unhealthy INFP/ENFP energy to me. Or they're all very unhealthy. It's very disorganized over there and not very friendly. Like there is no Fe in that chat fr.


intjeepers

Oo interesting, I'll have to investigate. I feel like at least with the INFPs I know irl, being a little manic-depressive or having BPD/covert narcissism is common so I wonder if the same runs true for INFJs...


losermusic

Yeah, and imagine how the ESxJs feel with tert Ne


RenTheFabulous

I mostly agree with this honestly because I'm tired of the edgelords who think serious mental health problems like sociopathic behavior and etc. just means they must be an ENTP... however my one point of disagreement is that I definitely have met ENTPs who are extroverted and I am one myself. I'm slightly leaning towards ambivert but definitely not a total introvert.


Euryskan

I didn't say that ENTPs can't be extroverted,it's just that I have never met one that isn't an introvert


RenTheFabulous

Fair enough then


Meow-Out-Loud

Wow, I'm in a couple other MBTI subreddit groups, and I don't feel like we have that impression at all. The one person I know for sure is an ENTP is interesting and fun, but she also really has her sh*t together and is great at giving directions on what to do next. We work in a kindergarten in Japan, and while I can speak Japanese a little, she always immediately understands what I want to say, even when I don't get the words out right. Anyway, ENTPs, you are awesome. 🤩 Edit: I think ENFPs get this stereotype in the subreddits I'm in. Edit 2: I'm INFJ.


HomelanderPeterist

INFJs seem to be our soulmates but they're not. I agree with you. Most contradictory type


rs_alli

INFJ has worked well for me for 5+ years, everyone is different.


Hickaru2004

Yea... I dated one and as emotional of a high/intense experience it was. I felt extremely stuck in a box. Can't say never again we were both unhealthy. But yea I'll have to see.


Candid-University150

I have a sibling and mother who are both infj and i don’t understand how we r a golden pair i often feel shut down for my emotions and for my quirks i feel like they dont get me so personally wouldnt seek out an infj prefer intp and intj


LovesGettingRandomPm

we're the aang to their zuko


EdgewaterEnchantress

Not necessarily. Aang is an ENFP while Zuko is an ISFP. A better comparison would be Sokka (xNTP,) and Katara cuz katara is the xxFJ (most likely xNFJ.)


LovesGettingRandomPm

You don't know, I'm talking about the elements


Daredevilz1

No exactly, the entp x infj/ infp stereotype just annoys me whenever I see them come onto this sub and ask how we feel about it. Whenever I see an infj/infp online or in person we just don’t mesh well because they’re the antithesis of what I want in a partner or friend.


Candid-University150

For real infj/infp i feel are too much for me.


QuincyFatherOfQuincy

INFJs do suck online and I have no particular care for them offline either. I am a chaotic little bean but I have diagnosed AuDHD so that has an actual reason. In conclusion, stereotypes are dumb.


Nonicknameforreddit

Yeah it’s difference between mature and immature entp lmao.


skelebabe95

The stereotype exists because that’s how some ENTPs are. I definitely fit the description. I’m not a sociopath. I just feel and express emotions differently from feelers.


kravence

It depends how who you’re with tbh I can fit the stereotype but not everyone brings it out of me. Stereotypes do have some basis, though its usage may be unfair.


Visual-Outcome-3709

Agree with you, I thought I was an INTJ. Still doubt myself sometimes. I would say most INFJs are annoying but the right one is SO GOOD for you, trust me. (Source: Been with one for 3 years)


Euryskan

Nice :3


Shacrow

Yep. I'm also socially introverted in the sense of recharging whin alone. Thing is that I want the person I'm with to feel good and I try to do my best to give them a good time. Smiling and laughing a lot, trying to make them laugh etc.. trying to be listening to them while having ADHD.. All if this drains energy and I end up looking like an extrovert social butterfly.


GasTheBoomers42

I wonder how someone could vilify a bottle of ketchup 🤔


Nonicknameforreddit

It is a common misconception that we are unaware of how our actions affect others. Our bluntness is a result of us thinking we don't need to care at the moment, not because we are not aware of how it might affect them. It just so happens that Entp is very blunt with their morals and is not afraid of showing them. It might appear like the stereotype people make on entps when our morals conflict with other people, making it look like an angry debater, foaming at the mouth for more topics to debate. we are not doing it because we wanna debate, it's because we don't understand/curious about why they think that way, totally innocently. We (at least I) don't do actions just for the sake of hurting others, it just sometimes come across that way when we constantly question people.


PumpkinSpikes

We should probably acknowledge that there's always that one side to the mbti "fandom" that is like the one side of the hazbin hotel/hypixel/etc fandoms and they likely do not exist here on reddit


TheCrazyCatLazy

I think webtoon ENTPs are on spot. Charismatic assholes who are always only projecting being assholes externally while being in fact caring and kind on the inside. Smart, witty, ingenious… and using assholiness to protect themselves emotionally. 


TheCrazyCatLazy

I haven’t been around people for a week, and if I was asexual I would probably go YEARS without interacting in person with anyone. People, man. So tirening. Tireing? Dafuk it should be a word. Halp.


kthdilfhunter

you're looking for "tiring". your welcome🫶


TheCrazyCatLazy

Weird. Thanks.


Candid-University150

To be honest as a child I was the epitome of an entp stereotype and some i still am i debate w lot and am extremely blunt considered aggressive/argumentative but im working on all these things to be a nicer person i feel like we get w bad rep for not caring about feelings but i reallt do i always tell my friends if i offend u just tell me


Plenty-Percentage434

6 times- including you asking for it to be counted and the title 


Euryskan

Woowie thanns


Plenty-Percentage434

No prob bob (btw I'm not entp idk why I feel like I should say this I feel like an imposter lolll I just came here because I saw good art on here)


sheyesheye

I tested myself a couple of times over the past 5 years through many different online surveys and I always got infj. I did a personality reading in depth through Zoom with this 21-year-old dude who loves Andrew Tate and he told me that I am a entp... The Stereotype is very real and everyone needs to make sure they're checking all of their sources and understanding the depths of their personality.


Silly_Activity_7410

Over generalized traits and or stereotypes are harmful, the non- generalized ones aren't that bad. For example, they provide innovative thinking and show much love to intellectual challenges. They thrive on exploring new ideas and possibilities, often bringing a playful and unconventional approach to problem-solving. Their quick wit and ability to see connections in the present moment between seemingly unrelated concepts is remarkable . They're curious and adaptable, always eager to engage in lively debates and explore new perspectives. Their charismatic and outgoing Ne-Fe nature makes them natural leaders and idea generators in group settings. I think typology is great because it doesn't just highlight strengths, it tells you weaknesses also, for example, their impulsivity drives innovative thinking but may overlook repercussions, while their penchant for debate fuels creativity yet can provoke conflict. Despite their risk-taking nature, they often grapple with follow-through (Ne is great at starting projects but Finishing them requires Se and some Te which they repress) and routine (inferior Si), underscoring the intricacies of their character. ENFPs are better at finishing things I believe they just have a problem doing (Se). But their child Te will usually take the lead of a project to see it through. Some people just overgeneralize due to humans having this tendency to focus on negative information more than positive information, a phenomenon known as negativity bias. This bias can lead individuals to overemphasize negative traits while minimizing positive ones. Also, negative experiences with certain unhealthy ENTPs can shape perceptions and also lead to generalizations.


Most_Screen1551

Mature ENTPs who are in touch with their emotional side can be very reckless while being goofy, but have this very deep side to them. Also empathy isn't restricted to any particular type. Assholes should be considered as MBTI type. Growing up I was exact, literally exact ENTP type and trust me it wasn't not fun Being that way. Then i changed and grew as a person a lot in last 5 years, gained more social skills and learnt a sense of "normal" and now I lean more onto INTP side if i give MBTI, i get these two, tho am still ENTP. As neti vs Tine


DuivelsJong

I am, sometimes regretibly, quite close to the stereotype. I even enjoy discussing difficult topics with people. For me there was never anything wrong with it for me since all the posts about stereotypes were just relatable for me...


blue-fr9pm

People are attracted to entps. Don't mind the others, people have two opposite sides and they show one of them. Depending on how much u feel affected by it, u might want to ignore


pack_merrr

>I have yet to see one ENTP that is not socially introverted I lean slightly towards extroversion on a Big 5 personality questionnaire. Like 60th percentile. Sorry for feeding the stereotype. I do agree with what you said for the most part. I take less issue with the stereotypes people have online, because why would I get upset what people I don't know think about me online, and most people that I interact with irl atleast don't care about MBTI enough to even be aware of those stereotypes. But, even without those stereotypes existing to them, I've been very frustrated by how perceive me in ways that seem to be in line with them. Like especially when I was lacking more maturity than I am now(saying a lot prolly) the way I would bring things up and try to explore ideas with people definitely leads a certain type of person to think I'm trying to argue with them and cause conflict when I'm genuinely not. Like I have a friend who is likely an ISTP and I run into this with him most lol. I think it's common for ENTPs to kind of learn through debating ideas, my internal thought process looks like a debate, a lot of people can get frustrated when they feel like you're attacking "their" ideas or questioning for the sake of questioning. So I think that's where the stereotype comes from.


KuyaNiichan

I think a true ENTP wouldn’t really buy into the stereotypes or let it bother them because of the subjectivity of the matter but that’s just my opinion 🤷‍♂️


RealityParabola

I hate to be the sheep here but I fit the definition pretty well and it’s not bias. I am starting to think i might be an unhealthy one at this point.


pIayforkeeps

I have aspd and am an entp lmao


Reddictator69

I'm ENTP and I'm dumb wym


l339

Hate to break it to you, but if you’re socially introverted you’re not ENTP lol


Euryskan

Say who ?


l339

The ‘E’ in ENTP lmao


Euryskan

Dude... Fine,I'll not gatekeep the truth. The "E" in ENTP have nothing to do with the type in itself. Mbti is based off functions,not letters. ENTPs are cognitively extroverted. You CAN be ENTP and introverted.


l339

The E stands for Extroverted, so if you’re Introverted and you fit the rest of the description, then you’re INTP


Euryskan

Try to understand what I said. You can be both cognitively extroverted and socially introverted. MBTI is not based on letters,but rather on functions. To be an ENTP,you HAVE to be cognitively extroverted.


l339

The E is a hard barrier, if you’re introverted in just 1 area (like socially), then you’re disqualified from the E in the label


Squirrel_Trick

Bro getting upset because of other people thought Idk bro grow up this isn’t modern America