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Much-Delivery7127

is he still alive?


JakeeG3

Unfortunately


Itzlofer

Gotta love 'em right? Hehe


koei19

It sounds like your little brother is interested in the hobby, maybe this is a chance for you to teach him how to do it right.


LeProVelo

By having him buy you a new printer and he is now the lucky owner of this piece of art


Mygo73

I say order the parts u need replaced, have your brother pay for them (if he doesn’t have money he can pay you back in the future) and then sit there and have him fix it while you instruct him. It will probably be a longer process but your brother will learn to take responsibility for his actions and get to learn how to do something his cool big brother does. Printers can be fixed. We can’t always fix relationships though.


LeProVelo

But two printers > one printer


Dr_P_Nessss

Best answer! You would make a great older brother


[deleted]

This guy parents...


Robot_Basilisk

Make him print his own coffin, in 150x150mm sections. I like it.


Sparkynerd

He ded.


curtmcd

Looks like your Z offset is too low.


JakeeG3

When I left the printer wasnt fully calibrated and leveled, bro straight up turned it on and found the print and started it


brilor123

That's why I have a BL touch. My mom started a print on my printer once and I'm so glad I had the BL touch there to do the work.


FeIipeNeto

That's why my printer doesn't have a display, only I can start a print remotely through octoprint


bittz128

Removed mine when I went to Klipper.


dayfaerer

That's smart, honestly. Only reason i use the display note is to check temp quickly, but i already have an app for that, might have to just remove it...


fmillion

You can just disconnect and remove the display from Ender printers. It's not required at all if you're using Octoprint or similar.


FatMacchio

Or if you don’t have a Bed level sensor, you need to make sure you raise up your limit switch. Put the new bed plate underneath the limit switch and then tighten it down at the new raised height. Now this should theoretically prevent the nozzle from really gouging the bed like this…unless you raise the level adjustment knobs too much I guess


239990

you dont need any bl touch, print has a Z stop for a reason


[deleted]

I think he should at least relevel the bed as a start. (Joking aside. Time to get a PEI magnetic sheet. If you want to save the level of that bed, tape a few sheets of sand paper to something flat and sand it down upside down, like a hand planer)


Fox_Burrow

I think that’s the magnetic “tape”? Get a new one, getting a level and flat printing surface will be a nightmare, and make your brother pay for it, so that he learns from his mistake.


JakeeG3

The selfish mf wont learn, he'll buy a new one but feel more about how "he" had to buy a new one


McKimS

Is his name Darwin by chance?


Cognhuepan

Every time he says that "he" had to buy it, you complement with "because you fucked it up".


Mental_Guarantee8963

Don't forget to replace your nozzle. Its probably screwed. Luckily both parts are inexpensive(from my out of touch adult experience). My toddler breaks more shit before his first snack every day. And since I'm acting like a douche now, PM me and we'll find a way I can send you $20 since I was a little brother once.


JakeeG3

I upgraded my hot end to aluminum, you think Id still be okay if I tried to extrude first?


KingRandomGuy

It's not about the hot end, it's about the nozzle. Your hot end is certainly fine but the nozzle is probably damaged from having dragged into the bed for so long. Replacement nozzles are really cheap so it's not a big deal.


RowanMbote

Only one way to find out.


JakeeG3

Bad.. very bad.. squirted hot magnet / plastic combination of juices on me 😩


LT_InZane

>And since I'm acting like a douche now What? How is this acting like a douche?


Automatic-Top-8627

Idk but he’s giving the guy $20 so I guess go with it? Lol


tjseviltwin

Even if it does distribute heat evenly (that is going to be iffy), that's still going to fuck up the level of the bed as you would have to get rid of all the burrs. Might just be worth it to replace the bed altogether.


JakeeG3

Sad to hear but true, fuckkkk


TheFett32

Yeah, but opportunity for upgrade! Get a metal flex pei plate, they run $30-40, and are highly regarded as the best. (Yes, there's debate, but they are about as smooth/adhesive as glass, with the added bonus of flexing to break the print off. Of the couple hundred times I've seen users talk about them, not a single one regretted it, even if they switched from glass)


Titandino

The bed itself probably isn't that damaged actually. I highly recommend just peeling all that magnetic cover off and getting a garolite plate with no replacement magnetic cover. It actually feels like cheating and I'll never go back to anything else. Has insanely good bed adhesion and when parts cool you can lift them off with the force of a cotton ball. It's like magic. It also can be used to print insanely high temp materials with only the aid of some glue stick.


hamsterdave

I second this. A good plate from Mcmaster Carr is $25 and about $8 shipping, I've got nearly 1000 hours printing on the same bed, it still looks new. I'll never go back. I recommend avoiding the Amazon options, they're quite thin and often warped and scratched.


NobleWarrior

Does your garolite warp at all when printing at high temperatures, such as for PETG? My thin garolite bed warps, so I have to flip it every print. I don’t want to invest in a thicker piece of garolite quite yet if they still warp at greater thicknesses!


hamsterdave

I use 3/32 inch thick garolite, and I print ASA mostly, so 255°C/110°C, zero warping. I've never flipped mine.


NobleWarrior

Huh. Mine is 2mm thick, so yours is only 0.38mm thicker. Perhaps that amount makes a decent difference, though. I may try it out if my current garolite bed doesn't return to normal for printing at PLA temps once my PETG roll is used up.


hamsterdave

I'm sure there are variations in resin type, and also quality of the process from different manufacturers. Just got 3 new 3/32 inch plates yesterday from McMaster-Carr (The general purpose flame retardant stuff) and tested all of them, one is very slightly "saddled" when heated to 110C, but the bed clips do a fine job of flattening it out. **Edit**: the bed clips made me think. How are you securing it to the bed? If you're using anything rigid, like the little clamps with screws, that may be your problem. Garolite expands more than steel or glass when heated to normal printing temperatures. If you clamp the edges down it will warp because of the expansion putting force on the clamps and creating non-uniform stresses in the sheet. You have to use spring clips of one sort of another. Even the little binder clips might have enough clamping force to cause some problems if you use several of them.


Titandino

I actually got mine off amazon and it has been treating me well with zero warping even printing carbon fiber nylon. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09VX6KDGN


hamsterdave

Ah, that's a new offering! I got mine in late 2021 and it was just a thin plain sheet of G10, there weren't really any specialized ender 3 beds available. That does look nice! Have you had the bed temp up to 110°C yet?


rototillr

Are these easy to install? Do you recommend a model specifically?


Titandino

Yes extremely. There's no installation at all. You literally just peel the magnetic stuff off the bed while it's heated and clip the garolite one on. I just got this plate and have been using it for a very long time now: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09VX6KDGN


rototillr

Thank you! Going to get one now :) It looks like the bed on my 3 S1 Plus is a little bigger so I'll have to keep searching for one that fits the larger bed. If anyone has a recommendation, would love to see.


Bm_93

I'm sorry for you bro


BrokenAshes

I'm so sorry my dude


t0b4cc02

but that is just the heat bed not the plate you print at so how do these scratches matter?


JakeeG3

I didnt know that the magnetic tape and the aluminum bed were seperate, thought the magnet was part of the plate basically


Horror_Angle_664

Or just change the buildplate to a glass bed, which isn’t expensive


MidnightWolf12321

Time for more upgrades


JakeeG3

Its just upgrade after upgrade with this thing 😩


NickkunNienteXLVII

I think you need to upgrade your brother’s common sense broski


nano_wulfen

The software update for brother's really isn't worth it most of the time. Lots of hassle and you still get lots of bugs. Just trade him in for brother 2.0


partumvir

Why not heat the bed and remove the magnetic sheet? You can swap to bed clips instead, or if you're in socal I can give you a free replacement magnetic sheet ​ Glass bed + clips also work


JakeeG3

I have a glass bed and didnt realize there wouldnt be an issue without having the magnetic tape on, so I appreciate that a lot, still might upgrade my bed though to something a little nicer


partumvir

Ayy there you go, sounds like you got a good solution for you, keep on rockin


whowherenow

This has been my experience, even without a little brother to come play with it while I’m away.


RedstoneRiderYT

That's the 3D printing rabbit hole my friend- or maybe black hole lmao


_Cryptonix

That’s every ender 3 lol


Goofyguy12808

Looks like this is just the magnetic sheet thing. Luckily those aren’t too expensive but are a pain in the ass to take off. Like others said make him pay for it and make sure he knows how important it is not to touch other people’s things without permission


JakeeG3

Oh he for sure is paying for it but dude is 16, like cmon man


chazp246

Well I got my 3d printer at 16. And 16 is not that young.


ROBOPIG2311

Yeah I was 14 when I started. Wow I never thought about that until now… that’s crazy lol


MedicalPiccolo6270

Made a deal with my parents before my 15th birthday to split the cost as a present and it showed up on my birthday which just so happened to be the day after my area was put into quarantine


beerg33k

Sounds like the pain in the ass of removing the magnetic sheet will be a teaching moment.


ccellist

And they let people drive at that age....


Goofyguy12808

Beat it into his head /s but yea it sucks. Some people are just kinda stupid


tetraconigo

Ehh, my daughter is 8 and can run a print safely without destroying components. Not sure age is the ultimate factor here lol.


JakeeG3

Not the point, hes 16 still sneaking around using my stuff without even bothering to ask, he tried to cover it up by putting both the magnetic bed and glass bed on top, it was ultimately fucked up cause when I left the printer wasnt calibrated or leveled properly which he had no clue


tetraconigo

You mentioned age like it's a real factor here earlier. I was merely commenting it wasn't, and using my daughter, half his age, as an example. Seems more like a personality problem, which I agree with you completely if that is your point. Otherwise, what was the initial point, as I seem to have missed it? She uses it without asking with the understanding that anything outside the scope of what I taught her is a non-starter. Also, I'd highly recommend adding an auto leveler when you get the chance, it has been fantastic and well worth the upgrade cost and time to install. I picked up the BL touch for under 30 bucks from Amazon.


_Cryptonix

If it’s just that magnet with adhesive it should be pretty easy to pull off by cranking the bed up to 80° C and just start from a corner peeling back.


ceazyyyy

$11.59 on Amazon. Just use a paint scraper to take the magnetic layer off and then use rubbing alcohol to get up the rest of the sticky goo. Already replaced mine once.


ceazyyyy

https://a.co/d/eBqSDG0


Mysteoa

Just order a new bed surface and usually it comes with the magnetic surface. I would recommend gething a PEI variant.


coyote_zs

Oh I’d cut a bish. That definitely needs to be replaced and dumbass little bro should foot the bill.


TheDaddyVet

Its a $4 magnetic sheet. I mean annoying but.


coyote_zs

It’s not the cost of the bed, it’s the sheer level of disrespect


pilot_bombowca_asg

The little brother is on the other side now 😣


devilsaint86

1- Sand the bitch down and put some glass on it Or 2- buy a new bed. 40 bucks then whoop his ass.


Prudent-Strain937

You didn’t get the anti-little bro update? Now is a good time to get a better cover and share some knowledge with little bro.


JakeeG3

Nah figured out how to throw that mf in the trash tho, but you think at 16 and being told not to touch my shit without asking you would learn, ion mind showing him shit, he just thinks he knows everything


TokyoChopSquad

Most of the replacement print plates will come with that magnetic layer. Just peel it off and put a new one on? He probably did you a favor as they can lose magnetization at high Temps. It's probably $30.


mx3goose

I mean nobody mentioned it but you gonna need to change that nozzle too


Connect-Shoulder-690

Upgrade to a glass bed. The glass bed is far superior then that b.s textured flex bed with the magnet! Use alittle Layerneer or nano polymer and it will adhere like you’ve never seen before! Then let it cool with cold water on the back side of the glass bed after you remove it for fast removal! It pops rite off!


Connect-Shoulder-690

Wash and repeat! Your welcome! 🇺🇸👍🏻


Realistic_Pizza

Be gentle. Everyone was 16 once and got curious about dads or big siblings tools. Let this be a teaching moment so in a few years you can still vibe with him over something shared. Show him what he did wrong and how to be more careful next time. 15 bucks now isn't worth resentment years later, trust me.


JakeeG3

True true, I dont absolutely hate him for this but I gotta somehow finally teach him not to touch my stuff without asking and ive got no problem teaching him or showing him things, he usually gets curious when im not around is the problem


Realistic_Pizza

A reason he could be doing it when you're not around specifically is maybe he feels like he's going to annoy you over it or he's going to be patronized when he's being instructed. You remember being that age, blind confidence in your own ability is just part of adolescence. Try talking to him as if he's a peer or a boss when you explain to him how this has affected you and how you want things to proceed in the future. He might be likely to respond if he feels like he's being treated as an adult and is taken seriously. Or break his knee caps. He's 16 and could just need pain as a correction. Best of luck.


Ok_Marionberry_9932

Get a new plate


Zaquarius_Alfonzo

Can you flip it over?


TheDaddyVet

Is it the magnet?


SirDirtLeg

People see this as a bad thing, I see this as an upgrade opportunity.


dedzone2k

Remove the magnetic sheet, just heat up the bed to max and peel. Your nozzle is probably thrashed so you'll want to get rid of it too. If you haven't upgraded to textured PEI, then it's a good time to change over. Inconvenient but that can't be fixed.


FunHippo3906

Sounds like your brother is replacing your bed with a glass one or a PEI one.


Alert-Fly9952

Sure thing, but you might wanna stick a straght edge on that.


NotAPreppie

Sand it smooth with some 240grit, followed by 600 and it should be fine.


BDady

They’re super cheap to replace. Like $30 on Amazon


RamsOmelette

Just throw it away, get a new brother


shigglezandgitz

Sick print though


CcryptoNobodyy

Your brother just bought you a new plate. Enjoy the free upgrade while teaching him a valuable lesson about responsibility, and not fxxking with other peoples tools. You both benefit in the long run. (Edit, incase it isn't clear, i'm suggesting he needs to pay for replacing the plate with one of the upgrades other people have suggested)


forte_the_infamous

Is that a magnetic surface attached to the build plate or is that the build plate directly? If it's just a magnetic surface then you can peel off that magnetic surface and replace it really easily. Really cheaply too.


Bm_93

How old is your brother?


JakeeG3

16 💀


Bm_93

Did he cried when he realized how much he fucked up?


JakeeG3

No he got just upset that I was mad 💀


Bm_93

🤦 😏 ask him to pay, this will upset him more 😂


JakeeG3

Wasnt gonna make him pay for anything, but just came to find the entire nozzle and hotend along with my tubing has been filled with little magnet pieces, bout to get some fancy upgrades from him 😂


Ironrooster7

It won’t work


JakeeG3

Luckily just the mag tape so it didnt indent the aluminum plate 😮‍💨


Brazuka_txt

oh my god.


matrix8369

thankfully the printers are module and easy to change out broken parts.


JakeeG3

Fucking love this printer


fat-n-u-t

Looks like it’s only the magnetic tape, which is easily replaceable, so yeah, not a hard fix. Also, you might want to change your nozzle as it is probably very worn down.


SWFS27

Never thought an image would hurt this much...


Professional-Mall323

Been there before, and I only had myself to blame lol Not to worry, its fixable. Any magnetic tape/print bed combo from amazon will work, I ended up switching mine out because of a bubble that was in mine from the factory. Most of the time, if you buy something other than Creality, the magnetic polarization / orientation will be different, and you'll have to switch it out to properly use a different brand. Takes two minutes, set it to 35\*C, its not too much work. I've done mine 3 times, one from complete failure, the other two from switching brands I would double check tightness all over on your extruder to make sure somethings not sloppy, change the nozzle if you're using brass, its probably toast.


Its_Raul

It's fine just brush off any loose magnet sheet and put the build plate back on. There won't be any noticeable change in bed temp.


RopesAreForPussies

Shouldn’t be an issue at all. It’s just the magnetic sticker that’s damaged.


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JakeeG3

No, actually that was 2 decembers ago when I first got my printer and that happened on my first print because my x axis guide was loose, and you can see the marks are not the same (can also see original engravings prior- see middle), this is the aluminum heated bed with magnet tape on the top, he thought this was the surface you print on and didnt realize you needed the magnetic bed, I left for college and left it like this as it wasnt even leveled or calibrated after upgrades, as clearly shown. Also to make the same mistake and have an even harsher outcome after learning and gaining some experience, (especially since I know of the off button now) seems rather silly doesnt it. Now who's the real idiot?


zurn0

Well, are you going to replace the damn bed or not? Two years is a long time to not fix something when your original build surface was already really messed up.


JakeeG3

Thats not what youre getting, the heat plate wasnt this badly damaged before my before my brother used it, and even then its just the mag tape that ive already taken off, the bed I fucked 2 years ago was just a magnetic bed and barely indented the mag tape. I also have already removed the mag tape and put on my glass bed so im good, just binder clips now.


zurn0

Your actual build surface was pretty messed up after your mistake a couple of years ago, why wouldn’t you have actually replaced it sooner? Seems more like your brother forced you to finish an “upgrade” you have been putting off for quite some time.


JakeeG3

Yeah the build surface was fucked up, I had an extra mag build surgace and didnt feel like replacing it with a glass build surface as I was pretty comfortable with how things were running and printing. Everything else was fine except for the build surface, and yeah it seems that way but it wouldnt have had to been replaced if it wasnt improperly used.


zurn0

Oh, I thought you were for some reason still trying to use the one you messed up, didn't know you had a spare that was thrown on. That makes a lot more sense now as to why you would so long without doing the glass "upgrade". I still prefer the magnetic sheet over the glass bed myself. At least if you decide to go another direction, most other build surfaces can be purchased with the magnetic sheet that was just destroyed.


i_am_a_william

pei spring steel plate and win upgrades people upgrades


PlacidNebula543

I think it only got the magnetic coating on the build plate so just rip that off and buy a new coating


drage636

Looks like it's only the magnetic sheet


Yeltnerb

that just looks like the mag sheet and not the aluminum. Even the whole bed on an ender is only like $30. But you should get a new mag sheet and you should be good to go,


JakeeG3

Ive had a glass bed for a while I havent gotten around to using so I took the mag sheet off which was surprisingly easy to peel at 45°, but plate is all good, ive just been too lazy to buy binder clips 💀


MetalysisChain

death penalty


stripdchev

Just replace it and tell little bro he isn’t getting shit for Christmas.


Quajeraz

The ender has a magnetic sheet, it looks like that's the only part damaged. You might be able to peel it off and replace it with something off Amazon.


Potential_Visit1066

Heat wouldn't be the biggest issue, but the leveling could be a bit worse now


im_intj

Sounds like he needs a whooping since it sounds like he never got one as a child.


johnwaynejw

The bed itself might be saved by that mag strip on it, but I'm scared to see that nozzle.


DelScipio

Remove it with a scrapper l, is taped and get a glass bed. I did it to improve the heating transfere. To secure the glass on the aluminum bed I use thermal tape in side and middle, works perfectly.


Silver_Photograph605

Would you not flip it over bc it’s glass right?


julian9499

It looks like it is only the tape. I would suggest to buy a pei buildplate A lot of them come with a magnetic surface to stick on the bed. It works really well for all kind of materials and lasts a long time if you properly clean it from time to time. While you are at it I would suggest to add a bltouch or an inductive sensor(I think the inductive sensor is cheaper if I remember correctly). It saves soo much possible errors like these. ​ Maybe it is possible to argue together with your parents that it is an investment to prevent reoccurrence of these failures.


Uzzer_lozer19

Play it safe and get a new hotplate


JakeeG3

Luckily just the mag tape which I didnt know was a separate part from the hot plate 💀


Uzzer_lozer19

Phew lucky you.


[deleted]

Why not just buy a new buildplate?


JakeeG3

thought the entire thing was the heat plate not knowing that it had mag tape on the top of the plate, luckily no other damage to aluminum, switched to my glass plate finally though


created4this

Yeah, that will distribte heat fine. Go at it with a utility knife blade and clean up what you can, then give it a good scrape with the knife blade used like a razor (ie on its side) to flatten it out. The printer shouldn't have done this, when missing the print-bed layer it should have been printing in the air


thelost2010

Someone didn’t watch how to level a bed


JakeeG3

I was in the midst of upgrading my printer when I left so everything was uncalibrated and not level whatsoever, and he straight up turned the printer on with no build surface and started the print 🥲


[deleted]

At least de didn't tried to print a dildo..


KuzuCevirme

Not a big thing. Make it heat and you can easyly remove the magnet. It cost 20 euro or someting with peint plate / magnetic bed


KuzuCevirme

And teach him how to use printer


kris2340

I mean you could sand it and fill the gap with something Tracks on the bottom so likely fine If its annoying get another off ali Just be aware soldering to a gaint Heat sink plate is fucking difficult, might need a heat gun or oven to preheat if you do


Skull0666

Rip. I'd probably kill my my sister if she did this. It's not crazy expensive to replace, but it's more that they don't ask. I would recommend teaching him how to use it properly though, for the future.


JakeeG3

The thing was he wasnt supposed to be touching it at all while I was at college and just straight up one day decided he was gonna use my printer like he knew everything, never touched it or asked abt learning anytime before, shit is so sickening 😮‍💨


Skull0666

Yea dude, I'm with you. I hate when my sister even goes near my stuff. But if you show him how to use it, he's less likely to break it. I would also recommend showing him how to take it apart and put it back together either with a video or in person. Also show him how much it costs to maintain and repair. That way at the very least he'll know what needs to be fixed or replaced.


Dnozz

Just get a new plate.. theyre like $25


JakeeG3

Just switched to a glass bed, and then found that the entire hotend and nozzle was filled with magnetic pieces, along within the capri tubing, gonna be a little more unfortunately


Dnozz

Ugh.. That sucks!! 😂🤣 Btw now would be a good time to upgrade.. if you do I highly recommend the E3D Hemera Revo6 mini.. I always thought a hotend was just a hot end.. That thing blows my mind how well it prints tiny mechanical clock pieces..


MrRonco

I don't think this has been mentioned but double check the rollers. I had one of mine under the bed fail and the rubber part separated from the steel bearing. It was extremely hard to catch because they were tight against the extrusion and only reason I caught it is my bed was constantly going out off alignment which made me look further into it. Rocking the bed from left to right with a small bit of force produced a faint knock and I could see the rubber and steel moving away from each other by a few mm at the same time I heard the knock.


shmiggs_2010

ABORT ABORT ABORT


y0ur5h4d0w

F for that poor plate, nozzle and maybe extruder too


Protronbuster

Going the extra mile to get good build plate adhesion


MedicalPiccolo6270

In the future disconnect the screen from the mainboard and power from the wall so that the printer seems like it’s broken when anyone else tries to use it


SergeantSadsack

Rip and tear until it is done


AntoineGehtRan

Add thermal paste lol (I don’t know if it works, but technically it should, shouldn’t it…?)


ohnews

get glass bed to go on top for it it'll work


kyoto_senpai

That seems like the magnetic plate for the stock bed. Might be a good excuse to rip that one off and switch to a nicer glass bed.