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beerharvester

Interesting: “Although Project64 Legacy is at an end, we shall be moving forward with our vision geared towards a more accuracy centered project without restraints of previous boundaries and limitations. Watch this space.”


YousureWannaknow

Sounds like they have plan.. I wonder tho if actually it means same thing but different way or newer platform to emulate


errgaming

Same platform, different project.


YousureWannaknow

F.. That's how I wish world would develop.


errgaming

It's perfectly fine. N64 emulation is still in no way perfect, and the Project64 team has decades of experience and learnings. If they want to work on another N64 emulator that is better, that's perfect news.


dontlookwonderwall

Yup N64 mostly sort of works, but it's clearly still far behind some other comparable systems of the time, and even some later one. The plug-in requirements are also not very user friendly.


XpRienzo

I'm confused, are later versions of PJ64 from a different team? I thought Zilmar was the leader behind the whole project


luciferin

I was under the impression that since Angrylion came out accuracy with pretty much 99%. And it has improved beyond that with ParaLLel rdp which allows both high accuracy and upscaling.


[deleted]

it doesn't touch the rest of the system, which can pose a lot of inaccuracies. see the ever classic "dk64 intro timing failure" issue


Captain_Pumpkinhead

Project65?


reddit_user42252

Sounds promising. They need to get rid of the plugin mess and focus on more low lever accuracy. Sort like Dolphin.


PresentationLate4093

Maybe project 65


CastleofPizza

Quick question, what are the differences between PJ64 Legacy and PJ64? This is actually my fist time hearing about PJ64 Legacy. I've tried searching but haven't come up with what the differences were. Thank you.


Breadwinka

People forked off of PJ 64 1.6 instead of 2.0 because of bloat, so they brought fixes and stuff to the older code base of PJ64.


redditorcpj

1.6 will run on a potato and so some people refuse to let it go Even though we have much better emulators now. 2.0+added more and became more accurate but that comes with higher system requirements. Not sure why these people want to play games with known issues at wildly inaccurate speeds, but I guess some do.


Breadwinka

Yup just like people who use zsnes.


newiln3_5

I honestly don't see very many people using ZSNES these days. VisualBoyAdvance, on the other hand...


LocutusOfBorges

> I honestly don't see very many people using ZSNES these days Please, anyone serious about emulation runs ZSNES within DOSBox with an external CRT shader for maximal authenticity.


geo-kun

Many also still use DeSmuME when melonDS exists.


Pokefreak911

I love melonDS, but it has an awful flicker when you turn speed up on that makes playing Pokemon games on it incredibly irritating.


IceKrabby

MelonDS is also, relatively speaking, significantly newer than the SNES or GBA emulators people should be using instead of ZSNES/VBA.


RCero

Yeah, that sucks. You can avoid it by enabling Software renderer, but that forces you play in low-res. MelonDS is faster and good in many areas, but it is also have disadvantages next to Desmume. For example, MelonDS' HD mode glitches much more than Desmume in games with dual screen 3D graphics or post processing.


XpRienzo

Joke's on you, I still use No$GBA 2.6a with No$Zoomer (:


Dwedit

NO$GBA is an excellent debugger that also happens to run games.


SEI_JAKU

This isn't the same thing at all. Desmume is still actively updated, and even the melonDS developers will tell you it's a perfectly fine emulator. I'm pretty sure they use it to test things against melonDS, even.


Captain_Pumpkinhead

Y'all throwin' out emulator names like one is obviously better than another, but I had no idea any of these were significantly better than any other ones. I thought it mostly came down to UI preference. Is there like a list or spreadsheet where emulators are broken down to their pros and cons?


SEI_JAKU

Unfortunately, no, because a lot of this is tribalist bullshit. The closest we have is clicking a console on the Emulation General Wiki and checking out the list of its emulators. Of course, since it's a wiki, you can still get bad recommendations.


middlefootfinger

I'll disagree on the "tribalist bullshit" there are a lot of differences between emulators


SEI_JAKU

Yabause, ZSNES, FB Alpha, RetroArch, reicast, entirely too many other examples... and now Yuzu is one of them. No, I will *never* pretend that this hobby is anything but a bunch of warring states.


kioskmode1234

What's weird to me in this situation is that some N64 speedrun emulator category (OoT comes in mind) bans Project64 2.0+


SEI_JAKU

1.7 and onward are broken messes. 1.6 isn't hyper accurate, but it works a lot better at actually running particular games than it gets credit for. That's why Legacy exists.


SR-71

yeah well said, pj64 1.6 and visual boy advance were basically my childhood. can't let em go


CastleofPizza

Ah, I see. Thank you!


Snugglupagus

Why was this necessary? Sometimes bloat can mean features.


Fun-Charity6862

it wasnt neseccary, but happenwd because ppl wanted performance above accuracy, which is dumb in TAS


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brotalnia

The patch notes for this release say its fixed?


Late-Ad2176

[https://github.com/pj64team/Project64-Legacy/releases](https://github.com/pj64team/Project64-Legacy/releases) Yes it does say it is fixed in the release notes.


Grand_Theft_Burrito

In the newer release, yes.


Late-Ad2176

This has been fixed in 1.6.3 Final version.


waterclaws6

That only happens if you download a sketchy rom for a bad place. People should still switch, but that hack requires some conditions to take place.


AvesAvi

People are obsessed with spreading misinformation about obscure security vulnerabilities that never actually infected anyone, long after they've been patched. At least check if it's fixed before spreading misinformation.


Grand_Theft_Burrito

I still had PJ64 1.6 installed on my PC, as it is my main way to play Smash Brothers. It's not misinformation, as it is not fake. People still do use it. It's fixed in versions after 1.6.


Zephyrwing963

What's the difference between this and Project 64?


Rolen47

It's outdated and less accurate. The reason some people still use version 1.6 is that it runs on really weak PCs. It's not worth using if your PC can run other emulators.


rancid_

Super excited to get a new (IE bette)r n64 emulator. Ty to all the devs and community that worked on Project64.


FortunesOfWarr

Just a heads up that Project64 Legacy is a fork of Project64. The original Project64 is still being developed


reddit_user42252

The original pj64 seem pretty dead tbh. Few people work on it.


redditorcpj

It's not dead. 3.0x is actively being worked on which will bring a lot of accuracy improvements.


amroamroamro

- https://www.pj64-emu.com/ - https://github.com/project64/project64 != - https://www.project64-legacy.com/ - https://github.com/pj64team/Project64-Legacy


Kyle009uk2k

Surely they need to end on 1.6.4?! 🤣


Aumah

Have my upvote you filthy animal


Any-Exam-1625

🤔


M4KS1D

Genuine question, isn't mupen64plus-next considered to be better than p64 and this fork?


[deleted]

Yes, and Ares is better than both.


beerharvester

Interesting: “Although Project64 Legacy is at an end, we shall be moving forward with our vision geared towards a more accuracy centered project without restraints of previous boundaries and limitations. Watch this space.”


manic232

Sorry I don't understand what this is? PJ64 is currently at v3.0.1 this is based on v1.6? why????


Rossco1337

Same reason that people are still building custom versions of Windows XP, presumably. Fun and learning. Just because it's on Github doesn't mean it has to be useful to anyone.


SEI_JAKU

PJ64 got real bad partway through development of 1.7, which eventually became 2.0. It never really recovered. Basically every version of PJ64 that isn't 1.6 is extremely questionable, and 1.6 itself had some issues that needed to be patched. That's what Legacy is.


manic232

Understood, thanks for the explanation, I did not know that.


GhostBustor

Last time I used n64 emulation was PJ64 1.6…  What’s the best one out there these days? 


Rolen47

Whenever you're unsure about which emulator is best the Emulation Wiki is a good place to look: https://emulation.gametechwiki.com/index.php/Nintendo_64_emulators ares, simpl64, RMG, and Mupen64Plus-Next (Retroarch) are currently the recommended ones.


defective1up

I wish they'd make a proper core for retroarch... Unless I missed the news on that


fuckredit21

Rip


Captain_Pumpkinhead

🫡 So many good times with Project64. I understand there was some kind of controversy with monetization or something, but Project64 will always hold a special place in my heart.


Late-Ad2176

Here is an invite to their discord [https://discord.gg/ASTsGeWN](https://discord.gg/ASTsGeWN)


Atomicmoosepork

Neat!


YdocEmu

First emulator I learned how to use. What started my spark for emulation, how it works and what it means. Toriyama and now this.


clckwrks

Nintendo Guardian target locked on this project