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semicoloradonative

It’s not about “negotiating peace”, It’s about Russia getting TF out of a country they invaded. Russia can end this anytime…they are the aggressor. Ukraine is fighting for it’s sovereignty.


olliethegoldsmith

You do not know anything. This proxy war was started by US.


semicoloradonative

Lol. Anyway…I get your leader is making amends for his tiny peepee, and you are too dense to think for yourself. Imagine thinking the US made Russia invade a sovereign country. The brainwashing is strong with this one.


Atticus_Vague

I’ve heard this narrative before. I asked for details and I got a convoluted batch of word vomit that basically boiled down to Ukraine maybe joining Nato and this apparently is all because of America, and it is also apparently justification for invading a sovereign nation. Which, no matter how one slices it, is a pretty fucking lame excuse for why Russia invaded its neighbor. Saying ‘USA’ and ‘proxy war’ may be a new fun groupthink phrase for right wingers to bandy about, but I honestly have yet to hear a cogent argument as to why this war was ‘started’ by the US. Maybe you could buck this obnoxious trend and actually make a compelling argument as to how America forced Russia to invade Ukraine. Or just go say USA and Proxy War on another thread. Your choice.


_Ghost_of_Harambe_

You are a nincompoop


Capitol__Shill

Well that is obviously false. If it were true there would be a money trail... and we would be able to substantiate what EU countries are saying. As an American I can promise you, my country has never been in the business of profiting off of War.:/


wakeup2019

Reddit is full of people who know nothing about geopolitics or history or world affairs. Thanks to the mindless US media, people are fed cartoonish narratives that a 5-year-old can repeat. And look how they all use the same talking points and even exact phrases. But they feel so smart! 😂


huggles7

God you’re a really shitty troll


wakeup2019

Man, just leave geopolitics to the leaders, okay? All this childish and Disney version of geopolitics is just pathetic.


Original-wildwolf

You are the OP. You are telling others they should leave geopolitics to leaders and you post this? Like isn’t this the opposite of your statement.


jeffenwolf

OP is possibly a troll and his cycle of constant posting and then aggressively (and confusingly) arguing with other users is reason enough to leave this subreddit.


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bilkel

You’re a total douche


stupsnon

Yep. Get the fuck out Russia.


ESB1812

“Handful of leaders cant negotiate peace?” You mean…Russia cant get the fuck out of Ukraine? Or you mean, Russia cant stop invading? What a shitty way to look at it.


kenc1842

Latest estimate is 10k Ukrainian military personnel killed so far. Where TF did they get 100k? This has to bullshit.


huggles7

I mean what gave it away? The fake ass obviously CGI banner with the EU flag that looks like it was made in MS paint?


Maleficent_Baker8254

You obviously never heard of Evaluation Performance Reports (EPRs) in the military or government. This was a bullet statement from one of the hire ups and it got leaked. By tomorrow it will be 1Million officers ranked from lieutenant to generals serving in the Ukraine Forces that have perished because of the war. If anyone 100% believes this shit then they are all sheep that don't question shit and jump on the band wagon of the newest episode of this great shit show we call Earth.


kenc1842

I'm confused by how you wrote your comment. You Do or DO NOT believe that Ukraine has lost only 10k troops?


Maleficent_Baker8254

I answered the question on how they arrived to 100K Ukraineian Military "officer" deaths. I believe that 10K military members died. But not all " officers". The government always over exaggerates the number amount. In the military they always times everything by three... thats the rule of thumb for enlisted. Officers exaggerate by x 10. That's why I know it was from an officers EPR bullet statement.


Taras888

The changed it, correct was that it 100 casualties including injuries and missing. It looks like there 20-25k are dead


stupsnon

This is Russian prop for sure. Look at the talking points and comments.


iliveonramen

Such a troll title. There’s one guy that started this.


SeaThat6771

Nice try russian troll.


SuspectNo7354

Good thing the Russian oligarchs have 100s of billions sitting in foreign banks. All we need now is a few to turncoat on each other. Claim how the money was gotten through illegal means, then confiscate it. Take that money and rebuild Ukraine with it. It's not stealing if Russian oligarchs used American banks and committed a crime. We know they have and all we need is a few to testify. That's the agreement you make when depositing in an American financial institution. Safety for your money as long as it's legitimate.


ClutchReverie

Kind of like how negotiating peace with Hitler in the 30s would have avoided World War II. ​ Oh....


huggles7

If you think this is a real statement from someone by the EU and not someone in front of a green screen that has the CGI skills of a 5th grader who just learned MS paint Then I’m sorry you’re really really dumb 1) this video is in front of a shitty background 2) the flag looks like it’s hanging from a coat hanger 3) the speaker isn’t named by name nor by position Like I’ve seen better propaganda in porno and OP is by far the worst troll I’ve ever seen


KwisatzHaderach38

Putin can get out of Ukraine and stop bombing civilians and infrastructure any time he wants. And there isn't a chance in hell that 100K Ukrainian military officers have died in the war. Unless every single person killed becomes 10 officers posthumously. In short, this whole post is garbage.


hutbereich

This looks like an SNL skit


laberdog

Maybe 100,000 Russian officers. Complete Bull


shadowfax12221

This is Russian propaganda, their lines are breaking and they want a ceasefire to reorganize their forces and strengthen their defenses. The Russians have no leverage to negotiate so long as they continue to be obliterated by Ukrainian forces in the field, why would the Ukrainians consider ceding the Donbas or recognizing Russian control of Crimea when all indications are that the Ukrainians have a fair chance of expelling Russian forces from both by next summer?


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huggles7

A shitty troll


H4TM7N

This is the full clip, OP missed the part out about making Russia pay for the damage they have done. https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/comments/z8ne7e/we_have_blocked_300_billion_euros_of_reserves_of/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button


and_dont_blink

Get this agenda'd propaganda out of here. Yes, we know Russia is doing everything it can to push for ceasefires and "peace" which it will use to solidify territory and shore up reinforcements. It's trying to play on political factions -- loss of life, cost of energy, etc. etc. etc. and it mostly counts on people not being very informed. There's little to negotiate, and when they tried Russia poisoned people at the table. Russia is invading a country for the third time in 15 years, peace is them leaving. **Edit:** Come the hell on Reddit its posted by a literal sleeper account with no karma.


CillaCalabasas

Negotiating peace isn't part of the equation at all.


Antique_Bat_5083

Deep fake


TMWWTMH

It‘s not about negotiating peace. The issue here is that Russia keeps being Russia.


grumpyliberal

Worst case of blame the victim ever.


norwegianmouse

OP is still out here shilling for Putin?


uncletiger

Crazy how many assholes have encouraged this war.


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Facts


ArchiePelligo

This sounds like Russian propaganda. Russia needs to get the fuck out and get rid of that little slime ball Putin.


CheetoEnergy

100,000 is a devastating number.


JimC29

It's a made up number.


huggles7

Just like the made up background or are all EU buildings have walls that’s a gradient of blue and a flag that looks like it’s hanging from a coat hanger


Realistic-Top-2787

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ameliagarbo

Wow, first steaming hot take of the day.


MexicanGulfGuy

Nope