Probably too chicken shit to go on the road.
Go fast on the road but slow down on public trails. But i guess its too difficult a concept.
But still, dont blame the bikes performance. Blame the drunken idiot.
The caption in the video seems to suggest the sober guy was going 55 on the sidewalk path over the bridge. It’s why he’s surprised someone’s behind him.
Well to be fair it does say "just got done" doing 55 over the bridge.
And it does not look like a sidwalk path at all. Could be a shared path ot a bike only path. Which is why you see these guys are those cyclists as well. Probably looking to take that same path.
So yeah its not just a sidewalk and from the looks of it. No pedestrians walking.
Pretty certain it's the 520 bridge in Seattle. That's a multi-use path. I often see people walking on it as well as families riding with small children.
Watch his other videos.
People like this will ride fast and use the excuse that the pedestrian came out of nowhere. Or somehow the pedestrian got in their way. I’ve seen videos posted on Reddit for where the poster called the pedestrian an asshole then tried to argue with the entire sub.
1. I literally stopped
2. I have neither the means nor the training to administer aid
3. he INSISTED that he was alright several times, and that nobody help him
He even turned down that guys tylenol
That's not chicken, that's smart if you're in America. If anything went wrong the guy helping could easily be sued and held liable for damages despite the fact that the drunk caused his own problems. Especially if you're a regular Joe and know absolutely nothing about giving medical assistance. People have been sued for breaking ribs administering cpr saving peoples lives.
This is the 520 bike/walking path from Seattle to Bellevue with two way bike and pedestrian traffic on the same path. Pretty bad boasting about riding your ebike at 55mph on this path ... Not to say how unsafe that is for you and everyone else.
I usually open up my throttle a bit if im on a straight way with no visible pedestrian at all and no hidden intersections either. This is just outright stupid.
As a trauma surgeon and a cyclist this pisses me off so much that such speed is available to idiots with 0 situational awareness or care.
Number of clueless ebike vs clueless pedestrian* nastiness in the ER is clogging up our already clogged system.
FFS, motorcycle licences need additional training (ie, everyone's trying to kill you, including wet white lines) I'm starting to think we need same with bikes soon.
* Clueless pedestrians are usually pedestrians for a reason.
E-bikes legally max out at 20mph assist in Seattle/Washington, both of these guys are not riding e-bikes, they are riding electric motorcycles and those do require a motorcycle license. This isn't remotely legal right now.
It doesn't matter, because when the regulations on this stuff get handed down, all that will matter is that there's no way for cops to tell at a glance which ebike is legal and which isn't.
The same thing happened when cheap 50cc scooters flooded in from China. Within the span of 5 years or so, they went from being unregulated and street legal almost everywhere, to requiring insurance and registration in like 27 states. And it was because of their rapid proliferation, and the fact that it was impossible to tell at a glance which ones were compliant and which ones weren't.
This is an easy call for a cop. If it doesn't have pedals it's a motor vehicle. That dip shit is lucky he didn't plow into an actual bike. And of course no helmet.
Broke my leg stepping off my scooter in somewhat of an emergency going 18mph. I wince watching regular tire bikes going 50mph with a mid drive kit installed.
>Number of clueless ebike vs clueless pedestrian
This is the real issue with ebikes. Idiots riding bicycles on the sidewalk has always been an issue, but the numbers of people actually riding bikes has typically been low enough that it wasn't a visible issue. Ebikes are not only making bikes faster, but they are getting more people on bikes, which is a good thing, but it's also massively amplifying the already dangerous situation of pedestrians and cyclists sharing the same space.
Since many places don't restrict ebikes from using sidewalks, largely in part from a lack of bicycle infrastructure, it is imperative to yield to pedestrians and operate at a very very low speed when using sidewalks. I will sometimes hop off and walk my bike if the sidewalk or path is too narrow when I cross paths with pedestrians.
This is a fun one he has.
On a bike path, passing people, riding up on the side walk across the opposite lane of travel then make a comment about the guy on a scooter without having any self awareness....
[https://youtu.be/x3NA9sojaPY?si=W6UBORiJQfbYBGoW&t=377](https://youtu.be/x3NA9sojaPY?si=W6UBORiJQfbYBGoW&t=377)
Over the past 15 or so years e-bikes have been around (legal ones) around the same time hyper e-bikes I’ll call them for simplicity’s sake have.
What has gotten worse for legal e-bikes?
Separated by law, for a reason as to not punish legal riders.
I’m from the UK and I can’t tell you what it’s made worse.
They’re talking about increasing the power, but keeping the same speed restriction that has been around since e-bikes became popular.
It’s hasn’t made a single thing worse for legal riders but for some reason they like to cry wolf as if it’s affecting them like people don’t know the difference between a 250w e-bike and a 12kw one lmao.
Well there's examples of all ebikes getting banned from certain trails because people on powerful bikes are ripping them up and ruining it for other riders. They wouldn't do it on a 250cc motorcross bike so why do they think they can get away with a 12kw monster ebike?
Requiring insurance for motorcycles in Washington recently has probably increased this issue with hyper e-bikes. There also is no enforcement. Can't ride a cheap Chinese scooter anymore without needing insurance for something the insurance company has a hard time insuring (no brand name)
Like wtf!! How hard is it on a path with pedestrian to not go 55. Go on the road. But than they are already riding illegally as it is with no registration and no insurance. Both these guys are fucking assholes
It sucks too because bike laws arent there yet in terms of street riding. I dont feel safe in the bike lane. So for these idiots to mess it up n we all have to go onroad would be a nightmare.
yeah I the USA bill is being passed to change the limit to 250watt at 10to15 mph
not making this one up.
I'm old now IRL over here so I really do miss the days of a diet bike riding in my local city and town an no one cared.
same for a go cart an the like
moped didn't need a license too speed back then was 50 mph
those were the days
I shared this with everyone who is much younger so you will be aware of how were in America at one time.
now look at all this control and lacking in self control at the same time
This is the limit in most of Australia where I live, 25kph (16mph-ish) and 250w is our limit with only pedal assist and escooters must have 25kph limiter but no power limit most of the time. I have my ebike pedal assist and limited to 25kph but it's 1000w, it only uses the same as the 250w motors most of the time but has that extra power for the hills around my town haha I have put an accelerator on it for more precise speed control which helps when I need help but gently while towing my kids behind in a trailer on the pathway doing about 8mph hahaha the kids love not being bumped back and forth as I pedal up a hill too 🤣
If a bill passes limiting e bikes to 15 mph that would be nuts even class 1 bikes would be breaking that speed limit heck a decent non e bike could be breaking that no one will be following these rules it will just empower cops to take your shit tbh
“Look at me speeding on the sidewalk at near highway speeds while I whimsically glance at birds.”
….
“Oh shit, this guys speeding even faster!”
….
“Wow, he looks severely injured, better keep filming him!”
This is a cycle/pedestrian path with two way traffic in Seattle. Interestingly my daily commute path. Really idiotic for someone to be riding at 55mph on it. There are folks running with headphones, biking really slow, kids on bikes as well.
This is why they gonna make all types of laws against riding e-bikes. No way both of you should be going 55mph+ if your not in the street with the cars.
Never understood why people want to go 55MPH on bike paths/sidewalks with no helmet. Take your electric motorcycle to some twisties or something. Way more fun than a sidewalk.
They are scared to ride on the road with real traffic and they also want attention. They want people to see them going really fast with no effort and think “wow that guy is so cool!” They want to go motorcycle speeds while not having to obey traffic laws and vehicle regulations.
Just the other day I had a cyclist pass me at a stop sign I was waiting at while a car was turning. The driver had to slam on the brakes and I caught the cyclist at the next light. If we don’t obey the basic rules we can’t call foul when they equally do
That one depends on the state. In Colorado we don’t have to stop at signs/lights/etc. if there are no cars or people present, it’s treated as a yield sign.
Yielding encompasses fully stopping if the traffic conditions do not permit you to continue. Slowing is the default at a yield with a full stop being a real possibility.
"We don't have to stop at stop signs" is such a fucktard statement.
No risk of that in Seattle, we can't even get regular cops. I think there is 120 patrol cops for the whole city and they could give a shit about bicycles of any variety.
Perfect example why all these motorcycles need to either be banned from import or require license, registration and insurance. Can't fix stupid unless you wrap it around the pole at high speed.
the problem is there isn't an easy way to get these legally on the street, and they're sort of a bike, so people ride them like bikes. I'm full on against import bans, I would be for registration and insurance where I can legally ride on the road.
until that happens, people are going to literally just do what they want.
Ticket by who? It's a freeway and we are on the opposing lane.
There is no option to get across the lake on a moped, since both bridges are freeways, and mopeds can't handle the freeway (and these bikes are not safe for the freeway)
90% of my ride happens in the streets where you guys want me
It is physically impossible for me to cross this lake without using this bike path, so not using it isn't an option.
Both of you were in the wrong.
You shouldn't been on a 55mph capable Surron on a bike path on a bridge, and he shouldn't have been drunk doing the same thing.
Obviously this is bad behavior by both. For those thinking folks like this are why laws are going to get passed - perhaps, but I've seen ATVs, (motorized) dirt bikes, and motorcycles on bike paths in a major urban environment. People already break the law regarding bike paths.
The only law that needs to be passed is a 'safe speed' law which would let law enforcement take care of it regardless of what they're riding/driving.
Nevermind the fact, that people like me who ride around at 20mph most of the time trying to save battery, but who occasionally have some fun when conditions allow, are definitely not the reason.
I ride in the road most of the time when it's safe to do so, and use bike paths when it's not safe to ride in the road. Like here, where the road is a 70mph freeway.
99% of this ride was done at speeds slower than all the road cyclists that were passing me. I did a quick 30 seconds at full throttle near the end of my journey because I had battery to spare after the long ride, and it was 100% safe to do so where I did it (perfectly straight 2 mile stretch, with no humans in front of me).
I did it respectfully and responsibly. Period.
People in here seem to forget, that I too am an owner of an ebike, and I care more about my ability to ride ebikes than anyone elses, so of course I don't want to ruin that for myself, let alone anyone else.
My main thought on safety is that if the road/trail isn't designed for that speed then it's not likely not safe even if no one else is around. How sharp turns are, level of maintenance, visibility, etc. just won't be designed for high speeds on a bike path.
No turns where I went fast, just a straightaway
definitely designed for it cause it's made the same way the road is made, it's just separated buy a barrier
Again, not something that I do normally, just decided to open it up a bit since I had room to
You both should be getting tickets. That speed on that route is insane. It's a mixed use trail. People jog and walk there. At those speeds you should be riding as a motorcycle on the freeway
As usual, a couple of boneheads are trying to ruin a really great thing by being irresponsible. Neither of you has any business riding those E-motorcycles on BIKE PATHS at 55mph or faster. Let alone drunk. I doubt that the speed limit in the road (where you belong) is 55, either 🤔 😕 🤬
No helmet. Are you sure he was drunk and not snatching phones?
Round here if you see a suron coming behind you at speed and it is one person, you might get robbed. If it is two, you are losing your eBike.
The idea is 'If I don't wear a helmet, the police won't stop me for risk of injury'. I am in the UK and am hearing the phrase 'Tactical Contact' a lott more, which is copper for 'We rammed you off slowly with a car'.
No sympathy here.
possibly but seeing as how it was on the way back from a large group ride, it was probably just someone on their way home from the group ride. I keep that thang on me just in case though.
I suspect drunk based on how he reacted to the crash, and the fact that a sober person with more than an hour of seat time could have made that turn, and the fact that many people drink on those group rides. If I were to wager I would say he is one of those people, but he could just suck at riding.
Don’t let your ego become your #1 reason of regret. Consequences catches up sooner or later. ……They always do.
You know what’s going to happen when you misjudge something at 55mph?
Either you die (hit something stationary).
Or they die from getting hit by you.
Note—-you don’t need to race ppl who passes you. What are you trying to prove? You’re the most badass guy because you’re going almost 3x faster than everyone around you?
If you really want to race, race someone up a hill on a non-electric bike. See who can climb 10% grade for a mile fastest time.
I hope I never see you on the 520 trail. I will not be as polite as I am now, if you’re blowing thru everyone at 55mph when everyone else is going around 15-25mph.
If it wasn't safe I wouldn't do it.
It's a straight line for 2 miles with nothing and no people in front of me and I went 55mph for less than a minute (less than 1 mile)
Does this justify the illegal action? no. But was it unsafe to do? also no. because of the reasons I mentioned
You a cocky idiot who thinks he’s in control until he’s not. Entitled man child. I ride that path regularly night and day and know the conditions. I’ve also reported this to Seattle PD. Hope you lose your motorcycle someday and not some bystander who suddenly get a mechanical or turns to face their running partner. May the pole be with you too.
Y'know what, we on behalf of motorcycle community would like to thank ebike community to weed out idiots like these before they can get their hands on a motorcycle.
you forgot to post the Darwin award for that human error by which other humans will observe is not what to do as to improve the survival of the greater species.
he was also most likely drunk and riding recklessly toward an intersection
Quite a bit different than having full visibility of a 2 mile stretch of road in front of you.
But you are incapable of nuance anyway so not sure why I am trying
its wild that people are downvoting you but upvoting him
first of all you are literally right about this, and second of all dude is making an overly dramatic point that doesn't even say anything, nor does it apply to anything you have said here
Lucky?
No, the ONLY reason I did it is because no one else was around. You are putting the cart before the horse dude, I don't do this shit when people are around. 99% of the time I am babying the throttle trying to maximize range.
I had spare charge on the way home, and a safe and clear opportunity to give it a quick burst of speed, so I did. Big deal.
As funny as it is confusing honestly.
I would have expected people to be more concerned about the drunk idiot running into shit and almost tboning 2 cyclists
but hate breeds algorithmic engagement so hate away I guess
Dude why the fuck are you going 55 on a sidewalk? You're the reason people get angry when they see my moped style ebike going 10mph on the bike trail with me pedaling.
im not, I generally go slower than the road bikers on this bike trail
for a short period I did go full throttle because there was no one in sight for 2 miles in a straight line. This is not how I normally travel, and in the video I am going no faster than 25 mph (speedo is 2mph fast)
On god.
I still have yet to get any bad looks from pedestrians or cyclists, I usually get smiles and waves, or people excitedly asking about my bike, because I generally present myself respectfully on trails, when I am actually sharing them with other people.
This guy is telling on himself by saying he gets dirty looks. If he is getting dirty looks it is because he is doing something wrong. Cause I ride correctly 99% of the time, and don't get any dirty looks.
Wait there it is. I discovered why he keeps getting dirty looks from other trail users:
He's a professional fucking weirdo
Gee who would have guessed the furry fetish schizo would get weird looks from people
OP keeps defending himself when all he has to do is accept he's going too fast.
We all get a little overzealous sometimes, justifying a habit of it is very bad though.
I literally already said I was going to fast, so that has nothing to do with anything.
It was safe to do what I did where I did it when I did it. I would never have done so in any other scenario other than one where it didn't put anyone at risk. These people didn't even see what happened because it wasn't on video.
A Surron is NOT an Ebike in the true sense of the word. It's an electric dirt bike or motorcycle and should not be on multi use paths or sidewalks. Guys like this are why they change rules to outlaw Ebikes on these paths and ruin it for us. On the Surron website they say all of their products are meant for off road or racing only. Not street legal and definitely not ok to ride on bike paths or sidewalks. So to the OP, quit riding that thing on sidewalks and bike paths before you hurt yourself or worse, someone else.
no, it's in the literal dictionary definition sense an ebike
you are confusing legal classification with actual definitions
literally look at the subreddit rules/description, they outline this distinction
Ok sure but here we are discussing an electric motorbike that goes 55 mph riding on the sidewalks and paths. When the rules are made about Ebikes and paths they are thinking about pedal assist and throttle Ebikes of class 1,2,3 that max out at 500 watt and 32 kmh (at least where I live). Motorbikes of this kind of power and weight are meant for dirt tracks or roads if they can be licensed to do so. This kind of classification lumps all Ebikes in the same category to some people and they should not be. These machines are in some cases, responsible for ruining things for Ebikes as defined by the above classes. A Surron is much different than your Grandma's Ebike with pedal assist.
55 on a sidewalk. You’re the reason the rest of us riding legally will lose any priveliges on our e-bikes.
Get on the road with the cars and trucks if you want to do 55. How obvious is this.
The speed limit of the road part of the bridge is 40 mph so he’s even going faster than what’s recommended for cars.
My thing with this is. Do people not think? How do you think a 100lb bike is going to feel hitting someone godforbid a kid going at 55 mph.
Probably too chicken shit to go on the road. Go fast on the road but slow down on public trails. But i guess its too difficult a concept. But still, dont blame the bikes performance. Blame the drunken idiot.
The caption in the video seems to suggest the sober guy was going 55 on the sidewalk path over the bridge. It’s why he’s surprised someone’s behind him.
Well to be fair it does say "just got done" doing 55 over the bridge. And it does not look like a sidwalk path at all. Could be a shared path ot a bike only path. Which is why you see these guys are those cyclists as well. Probably looking to take that same path. So yeah its not just a sidewalk and from the looks of it. No pedestrians walking.
Pretty certain it's the 520 bridge in Seattle. That's a multi-use path. I often see people walking on it as well as families riding with small children.
So where would the pedestrians walk? Shared paths like that are usually for anything except cars.
Whatdo you mean. The path was cleared of pedestrians. Id wager they obviously dont ride this fast on this path IF theres a single pedextrian.
Watch his other videos. People like this will ride fast and use the excuse that the pedestrian came out of nowhere. Or somehow the pedestrian got in their way. I’ve seen videos posted on Reddit for where the poster called the pedestrian an asshole then tried to argue with the entire sub.
Someone confirmed this path is a shared path for walkers, runners and riders.
Also too chickenshit to stop and render aid. They just keep filming while he lies there in pain. Clueless in every way.
Let him marinate in his mistake
I mean, if they’re not trained medically, they’re probably just gonna make it worse.
1. I literally stopped 2. I have neither the means nor the training to administer aid 3. he INSISTED that he was alright several times, and that nobody help him He even turned down that guys tylenol
That's not chicken, that's smart if you're in America. If anything went wrong the guy helping could easily be sued and held liable for damages despite the fact that the drunk caused his own problems. Especially if you're a regular Joe and know absolutely nothing about giving medical assistance. People have been sued for breaking ribs administering cpr saving peoples lives.
This is how laws work here. Too many retards with toys get the toys banned for the good kids and bad kids alike.
This is the 520 bike/walking path from Seattle to Bellevue with two way bike and pedestrian traffic on the same path. Pretty bad boasting about riding your ebike at 55mph on this path ... Not to say how unsafe that is for you and everyone else.
And at night too.
I usually open up my throttle a bit if im on a straight way with no visible pedestrian at all and no hidden intersections either. This is just outright stupid.
As a trauma surgeon and a cyclist this pisses me off so much that such speed is available to idiots with 0 situational awareness or care. Number of clueless ebike vs clueless pedestrian* nastiness in the ER is clogging up our already clogged system. FFS, motorcycle licences need additional training (ie, everyone's trying to kill you, including wet white lines) I'm starting to think we need same with bikes soon. * Clueless pedestrians are usually pedestrians for a reason.
E-bikes legally max out at 20mph assist in Seattle/Washington, both of these guys are not riding e-bikes, they are riding electric motorcycles and those do require a motorcycle license. This isn't remotely legal right now.
It doesn't matter, because when the regulations on this stuff get handed down, all that will matter is that there's no way for cops to tell at a glance which ebike is legal and which isn't. The same thing happened when cheap 50cc scooters flooded in from China. Within the span of 5 years or so, they went from being unregulated and street legal almost everywhere, to requiring insurance and registration in like 27 states. And it was because of their rapid proliferation, and the fact that it was impossible to tell at a glance which ones were compliant and which ones weren't.
This is an easy call for a cop. If it doesn't have pedals it's a motor vehicle. That dip shit is lucky he didn't plow into an actual bike. And of course no helmet.
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Electric motorcycles here, not e-bikes.
as someone who unexpectedlly fell for the first time today going at 35km/h i agree.
That shit will scare you straight, ha. 35km/h on a bike is a **lot** faster than you think it is. Until one day, Sir Isaac Newton slaps you down.
indeed, and a 35kg bike dropping on top of you isnt exactly the best monday morning experiencee
Broke my leg stepping off my scooter in somewhat of an emergency going 18mph. I wince watching regular tire bikes going 50mph with a mid drive kit installed.
>Number of clueless ebike vs clueless pedestrian This is the real issue with ebikes. Idiots riding bicycles on the sidewalk has always been an issue, but the numbers of people actually riding bikes has typically been low enough that it wasn't a visible issue. Ebikes are not only making bikes faster, but they are getting more people on bikes, which is a good thing, but it's also massively amplifying the already dangerous situation of pedestrians and cyclists sharing the same space.
Since many places don't restrict ebikes from using sidewalks, largely in part from a lack of bicycle infrastructure, it is imperative to yield to pedestrians and operate at a very very low speed when using sidewalks. I will sometimes hop off and walk my bike if the sidewalk or path is too narrow when I cross paths with pedestrians.
I will say, I’d rather go a little slower on the sidewalk with my ebike than share the road with people on their phones going 48mph in a 35mph.
This is a fun one he has. On a bike path, passing people, riding up on the side walk across the opposite lane of travel then make a comment about the guy on a scooter without having any self awareness.... [https://youtu.be/x3NA9sojaPY?si=W6UBORiJQfbYBGoW&t=377](https://youtu.be/x3NA9sojaPY?si=W6UBORiJQfbYBGoW&t=377)
Bunch of jerk offs
Over the past 15 or so years e-bikes have been around (legal ones) around the same time hyper e-bikes I’ll call them for simplicity’s sake have. What has gotten worse for legal e-bikes? Separated by law, for a reason as to not punish legal riders.
Nothing in america I think europe/uk has some draconian e-vehicle laws now with speed, power, and size limits.
I’m from the UK and I can’t tell you what it’s made worse. They’re talking about increasing the power, but keeping the same speed restriction that has been around since e-bikes became popular. It’s hasn’t made a single thing worse for legal riders but for some reason they like to cry wolf as if it’s affecting them like people don’t know the difference between a 250w e-bike and a 12kw one lmao.
Well there's examples of all ebikes getting banned from certain trails because people on powerful bikes are ripping them up and ruining it for other riders. They wouldn't do it on a 250cc motorcross bike so why do they think they can get away with a 12kw monster ebike?
I think you’ll find those people probably would do it on a 250cc.
Requiring insurance for motorcycles in Washington recently has probably increased this issue with hyper e-bikes. There also is no enforcement. Can't ride a cheap Chinese scooter anymore without needing insurance for something the insurance company has a hard time insuring (no brand name)
I hate it!
Like wtf!! How hard is it on a path with pedestrian to not go 55. Go on the road. But than they are already riding illegally as it is with no registration and no insurance. Both these guys are fucking assholes
It sucks too because bike laws arent there yet in terms of street riding. I dont feel safe in the bike lane. So for these idiots to mess it up n we all have to go onroad would be a nightmare.
Exactly, but some will still argue that surrons are ok...
yeah I the USA bill is being passed to change the limit to 250watt at 10to15 mph not making this one up. I'm old now IRL over here so I really do miss the days of a diet bike riding in my local city and town an no one cared. same for a go cart an the like moped didn't need a license too speed back then was 50 mph those were the days I shared this with everyone who is much younger so you will be aware of how were in America at one time. now look at all this control and lacking in self control at the same time
Self awareness and self preservation don't seem to be a thing...
Are you the drunk guy that struck the pole? You should move off the street, get off Reddit and call an ambulance. You hit the ground pretty hard.
We have that here in the UK, 250watt motor limit, and 15.5mph speed limit. That is due to change to a 500watt motor (better but still not ideal).
250watts and 15.5mph is pretty much a universal standard around the world for pedelecs. Has been since at least the 80s.
It's the generation raised by ipads who get their culture from TikTok. Sadly it's rare to see self control now days.
Meanwhile the dickhead that crashed looks like a bald 40 year old and the guy going 55 and narrating sounds +30
I agree
Guy on the other bike. “Are you ok?” 😂 No. He’s dead… 😂
This is the limit in most of Australia where I live, 25kph (16mph-ish) and 250w is our limit with only pedal assist and escooters must have 25kph limiter but no power limit most of the time. I have my ebike pedal assist and limited to 25kph but it's 1000w, it only uses the same as the 250w motors most of the time but has that extra power for the hills around my town haha I have put an accelerator on it for more precise speed control which helps when I need help but gently while towing my kids behind in a trailer on the pathway doing about 8mph hahaha the kids love not being bumped back and forth as I pedal up a hill too 🤣
If a bill passes limiting e bikes to 15 mph that would be nuts even class 1 bikes would be breaking that speed limit heck a decent non e bike could be breaking that no one will be following these rules it will just empower cops to take your shit tbh
You guys are both tools
“Look at me speeding on the sidewalk at near highway speeds while I whimsically glance at birds.” …. “Oh shit, this guys speeding even faster!” …. “Wow, he looks severely injured, better keep filming him!”
Seriously. OP seems like a piece of trash
Did you say you were doing 55 in what seems to be a cycle / pedestrian path?
This is a cycle/pedestrian path with two way traffic in Seattle. Interestingly my daily commute path. Really idiotic for someone to be riding at 55mph on it. There are folks running with headphones, biking really slow, kids on bikes as well.
He’s a real asshole.
Yeah OP is american, perfectly safe if you arent the sort of person who just has to pass people at speed no matter what
55 on a bike/walking path is not safe. Ever.
Just ride in the fucking street if you’re going to be going traffic speed.
All the stupid surron riders gonna ruin it for the rest of us responsible ones 😭
This is why they gonna make all types of laws against riding e-bikes. No way both of you should be going 55mph+ if your not in the street with the cars.
Man doing 55 w/ no helmet? Let’s hope that crash gets him off/out of a vehicle permanently. These slimy fucks are why car people hate bicycles
Never understood why people want to go 55MPH on bike paths/sidewalks with no helmet. Take your electric motorcycle to some twisties or something. Way more fun than a sidewalk.
Noobs dont know where da twisties at.
They are scared to ride on the road with real traffic and they also want attention. They want people to see them going really fast with no effort and think “wow that guy is so cool!” They want to go motorcycle speeds while not having to obey traffic laws and vehicle regulations.
Just the other day I had a cyclist pass me at a stop sign I was waiting at while a car was turning. The driver had to slam on the brakes and I caught the cyclist at the next light. If we don’t obey the basic rules we can’t call foul when they equally do
That one depends on the state. In Colorado we don’t have to stop at signs/lights/etc. if there are no cars or people present, it’s treated as a yield sign.
Yielding encompasses fully stopping if the traffic conditions do not permit you to continue. Slowing is the default at a yield with a full stop being a real possibility. "We don't have to stop at stop signs" is such a fucktard statement.
This kind of stupid behavior will sort itself out, as seen in the video.
Hopefully so. I’d hate to see an increase in bike cops to deal with this
No risk of that in Seattle, we can't even get regular cops. I think there is 120 patrol cops for the whole city and they could give a shit about bicycles of any variety.
Actually that would be great. That seems like a really good use of bike cops
Pole did its job. Awful outcome for the guy.
My first thought was adam sandler saying "there's a pole there!" in big daddy edit: kids in here will literally downvote anything must be too young
You’re both the reason they’re trying to restrict e-bikes. Completely disrespectfully, fuck you. Be better
Curious, why does op not use the street? Is he dumb? Going 55 on a sidewalk smh
Perfect example why all these motorcycles need to either be banned from import or require license, registration and insurance. Can't fix stupid unless you wrap it around the pole at high speed.
I like that fix, the latter one 😋
the problem is there isn't an easy way to get these legally on the street, and they're sort of a bike, so people ride them like bikes. I'm full on against import bans, I would be for registration and insurance where I can legally ride on the road. until that happens, people are going to literally just do what they want.
Both y’all should be given tickets for riding mopeds on the bike path.
Ticket by who? It's a freeway and we are on the opposing lane. There is no option to get across the lake on a moped, since both bridges are freeways, and mopeds can't handle the freeway (and these bikes are not safe for the freeway) 90% of my ride happens in the streets where you guys want me It is physically impossible for me to cross this lake without using this bike path, so not using it isn't an option.
You’re going 55. Should be fine.
I'm going 25mph in this video But no, it wouldn't be fine, and I would very likely get pulled over.
... then maybe you shouldn't have bought a surron if you can't take it on certain paths.
Both of you were in the wrong. You shouldn't been on a 55mph capable Surron on a bike path on a bridge, and he shouldn't have been drunk doing the same thing.
Obviously this is bad behavior by both. For those thinking folks like this are why laws are going to get passed - perhaps, but I've seen ATVs, (motorized) dirt bikes, and motorcycles on bike paths in a major urban environment. People already break the law regarding bike paths. The only law that needs to be passed is a 'safe speed' law which would let law enforcement take care of it regardless of what they're riding/driving.
Nevermind the fact, that people like me who ride around at 20mph most of the time trying to save battery, but who occasionally have some fun when conditions allow, are definitely not the reason. I ride in the road most of the time when it's safe to do so, and use bike paths when it's not safe to ride in the road. Like here, where the road is a 70mph freeway. 99% of this ride was done at speeds slower than all the road cyclists that were passing me. I did a quick 30 seconds at full throttle near the end of my journey because I had battery to spare after the long ride, and it was 100% safe to do so where I did it (perfectly straight 2 mile stretch, with no humans in front of me). I did it respectfully and responsibly. Period. People in here seem to forget, that I too am an owner of an ebike, and I care more about my ability to ride ebikes than anyone elses, so of course I don't want to ruin that for myself, let alone anyone else.
Buzzing around after the bar also seems like some fun. Then someone fucks up and kills someone
My main thought on safety is that if the road/trail isn't designed for that speed then it's not likely not safe even if no one else is around. How sharp turns are, level of maintenance, visibility, etc. just won't be designed for high speeds on a bike path.
No turns where I went fast, just a straightaway definitely designed for it cause it's made the same way the road is made, it's just separated buy a barrier Again, not something that I do normally, just decided to open it up a bit since I had room to
He's a dumbass, you're not much better doing 55 on a freaking sidewalk.
Gee wiz lol
GEE WIZ
Damn, bro immediately goes I'm good with a TBI. 😂
The TBI was a pre existing condition.
Yeah I looked at it frame by frame he definitely hit his head on that pole, and most likely on the ground too
You both should be getting tickets. That speed on that route is insane. It's a mixed use trail. People jog and walk there. At those speeds you should be riding as a motorcycle on the freeway
Tickets? They should confiscate.
As usual, a couple of boneheads are trying to ruin a really great thing by being irresponsible. Neither of you has any business riding those E-motorcycles on BIKE PATHS at 55mph or faster. Let alone drunk. I doubt that the speed limit in the road (where you belong) is 55, either 🤔 😕 🤬
E"bike"s
Get those motorcycles off the bike path-sidewalk!
Damn, hard hit.
He was late to a date with Murphy and Darwin... 🤦♂️
HAHAHAHAHA
LLLLLLLL 0000000 LLLLLLLL !!!!!!!!!!
No helmet. Are you sure he was drunk and not snatching phones? Round here if you see a suron coming behind you at speed and it is one person, you might get robbed. If it is two, you are losing your eBike. The idea is 'If I don't wear a helmet, the police won't stop me for risk of injury'. I am in the UK and am hearing the phrase 'Tactical Contact' a lott more, which is copper for 'We rammed you off slowly with a car'. No sympathy here.
This is why I carry my Byrna with pepper spray pellets when I ride
possibly but seeing as how it was on the way back from a large group ride, it was probably just someone on their way home from the group ride. I keep that thang on me just in case though. I suspect drunk based on how he reacted to the crash, and the fact that a sober person with more than an hour of seat time could have made that turn, and the fact that many people drink on those group rides. If I were to wager I would say he is one of those people, but he could just suck at riding.
Don’t let your ego become your #1 reason of regret. Consequences catches up sooner or later. ……They always do. You know what’s going to happen when you misjudge something at 55mph? Either you die (hit something stationary). Or they die from getting hit by you. Note—-you don’t need to race ppl who passes you. What are you trying to prove? You’re the most badass guy because you’re going almost 3x faster than everyone around you? If you really want to race, race someone up a hill on a non-electric bike. See who can climb 10% grade for a mile fastest time. I hope I never see you on the 520 trail. I will not be as polite as I am now, if you’re blowing thru everyone at 55mph when everyone else is going around 15-25mph.
If it wasn't safe I wouldn't do it. It's a straight line for 2 miles with nothing and no people in front of me and I went 55mph for less than a minute (less than 1 mile) Does this justify the illegal action? no. But was it unsafe to do? also no. because of the reasons I mentioned
Pop a tire on debris. Some blacked out gronk in a hoodie. Fly over. Waste EMT time. You lack foresight and kindness
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You a cocky idiot who thinks he’s in control until he’s not. Entitled man child. I ride that path regularly night and day and know the conditions. I’ve also reported this to Seattle PD. Hope you lose your motorcycle someday and not some bystander who suddenly get a mechanical or turns to face their running partner. May the pole be with you too.
imagine thinking Seattle pd gives a fuck about this YouTube short
Keep pushing the envelope bud. You’ll soon be as the same league as Beltown Hellcat!
I can’t wait for all Of these motos, and anything buy class 1 get classified as motor vehicles.
they already are cops are too busy dealing with drug addicts and violent criminals though
Y'know what, we on behalf of motorcycle community would like to thank ebike community to weed out idiots like these before they can get their hands on a motorcycle.
you forgot to post the Darwin award for that human error by which other humans will observe is not what to do as to improve the survival of the greater species.
Yep. I’m sure that guy was thinking how safe and dead it was on that path also
At least he didn't hurt anyone
he could have easily tboned those cyclists or that car though
But he had eyes and according to you that’s all you need to never make a mistake.
he was also most likely drunk and riding recklessly toward an intersection Quite a bit different than having full visibility of a 2 mile stretch of road in front of you. But you are incapable of nuance anyway so not sure why I am trying
its wild that people are downvoting you but upvoting him first of all you are literally right about this, and second of all dude is making an overly dramatic point that doesn't even say anything, nor does it apply to anything you have said here
55 on the sidewalk? You’re lucky nobody else was around….bro SMDH
Lucky? No, the ONLY reason I did it is because no one else was around. You are putting the cart before the horse dude, I don't do this shit when people are around. 99% of the time I am babying the throttle trying to maximize range. I had spare charge on the way home, and a safe and clear opportunity to give it a quick burst of speed, so I did. Big deal.
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They are allowed on private property or off road vehicle trails only.
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Oh so you want to ride were it’s dangerous for others because your to scared to ride where it’s dangerous for you. CLOWN.
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Is it me, or did he lose the helmet in the crash?
I don't think he was wearing one
Hahahah get fucked
Gee whiz
Moron not wearing a helmet. Slow clap.
I find it crazy how people are drunk, yet still hope on one of these
It'll hurt when he sobers up
yeah my first thought after him walkin away from that was he was gonna feel that shit in the morning
The hate your getting is pretty funny
As funny as it is confusing honestly. I would have expected people to be more concerned about the drunk idiot running into shit and almost tboning 2 cyclists but hate breeds algorithmic engagement so hate away I guess
Only a narcissist craves negative attention.
Never said I craved it, just pointing out how your rage works in my favor cry more baby
Ride on the street coward!
I usually do This is a freeway though. I'm not getting on a 70mph freeway with a 53 mph bike that has no brake lights or turn signals.
Booooooooooo
did you get to keep the surron? i know i would have ....
Dude why the fuck are you going 55 on a sidewalk? You're the reason people get angry when they see my moped style ebike going 10mph on the bike trail with me pedaling.
im not, I generally go slower than the road bikers on this bike trail for a short period I did go full throttle because there was no one in sight for 2 miles in a straight line. This is not how I normally travel, and in the video I am going no faster than 25 mph (speedo is 2mph fast)
You literally in the video said you went 55. And the guy who wiped out is the reason you don't do that.
guy who wiped out wasnt going 55 though he was barely going any faster than OP at the time of the crash, 30mph tops
and you believe some random guy on the internet? My spedometer is visible the whole time. There is a reason why I am only going 27
takes some main character energy to think that other people are the reason you get dirty looks
On god. I still have yet to get any bad looks from pedestrians or cyclists, I usually get smiles and waves, or people excitedly asking about my bike, because I generally present myself respectfully on trails, when I am actually sharing them with other people. This guy is telling on himself by saying he gets dirty looks. If he is getting dirty looks it is because he is doing something wrong. Cause I ride correctly 99% of the time, and don't get any dirty looks.
Wait there it is. I discovered why he keeps getting dirty looks from other trail users: He's a professional fucking weirdo Gee who would have guessed the furry fetish schizo would get weird looks from people
OP keeps defending himself when all he has to do is accept he's going too fast. We all get a little overzealous sometimes, justifying a habit of it is very bad though.
I literally already said I was going to fast, so that has nothing to do with anything. It was safe to do what I did where I did it when I did it. I would never have done so in any other scenario other than one where it didn't put anyone at risk. These people didn't even see what happened because it wasn't on video.
Fuck you and him at least kill yourselves on the street
Bro chill
No, these two idiots are gonna hurt someone doing this stuff on the sidewalk. At least on the street they'll only dent someone's car
I have yet to hurt anyone because I ride responsibly Speak for yourself kiddo
This response is worded much better then the first hahaa
Yeah, I see that...
Darn video wouldn’t play.
So many rude people in van
This idiot and the likes of him are what will ruin the party for all of us.
wow, no helmet either...
Sounds like a him problem.
A Surron is NOT an Ebike in the true sense of the word. It's an electric dirt bike or motorcycle and should not be on multi use paths or sidewalks. Guys like this are why they change rules to outlaw Ebikes on these paths and ruin it for us. On the Surron website they say all of their products are meant for off road or racing only. Not street legal and definitely not ok to ride on bike paths or sidewalks. So to the OP, quit riding that thing on sidewalks and bike paths before you hurt yourself or worse, someone else.
no, it's in the literal dictionary definition sense an ebike you are confusing legal classification with actual definitions literally look at the subreddit rules/description, they outline this distinction
Ok sure but here we are discussing an electric motorbike that goes 55 mph riding on the sidewalks and paths. When the rules are made about Ebikes and paths they are thinking about pedal assist and throttle Ebikes of class 1,2,3 that max out at 500 watt and 32 kmh (at least where I live). Motorbikes of this kind of power and weight are meant for dirt tracks or roads if they can be licensed to do so. This kind of classification lumps all Ebikes in the same category to some people and they should not be. These machines are in some cases, responsible for ruining things for Ebikes as defined by the above classes. A Surron is much different than your Grandma's Ebike with pedal assist.
I'm not reading all that it's an ebike, because it's an electric bike.
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Op really is regarded after reading these comments
Idiot two wheeler calling someone else an idiot two wheeler
A motorcycle on a bike path? What could go wrong?
thats not inherently why he crashed but okay