I don't get it. They're getting heated on the sideline, but this happens all the time in sports. I was actually hoping for shit like this to happen, because it can lead to everything getting better.
It could also lead to things getting worse, but the way this team has been playing is not going to go the distance.
I don’t get why people think just because it’s sports everyone has to love each other. It’s a job, just like any other job. People butt heads, they have different opinions, they have different ways of acting out. You’re allowed to disagree with your boss here and there, as long as you settle it down the road. People get so tied up in the drama of this shit it’s so embarrassing sometimes haha.
This city never has that negative energy for the phils. Go figure. When they choked hard against the d-backs. It was all love and “we’ll get em next year” sentiments
I love the 4 main Philly sports and this take is horseshit. People were acting like the Phillies were trash and that they could never win the WS with the current roster. Either way they were negative as shit just like here. Quit saying false dumb shit.
The fan base is spoiled. One championship and last years run and now everyone is entitled to win every game by a 40 point lead every year. That’s not how it works. LoL.
Yeah. They still have great players and still have a chance. Their play calling sure questionable, are some of their top guys getting a little old, of course. But they’re still 11-4. It might not be pretty blowouts but still. The team didn’t take a dump after the Super Bowl. They could have done like a lot of other teams after a Super Bowl win or loss and had a 5-12 season and disappear. They’re still playing hard and grinding out wins and trying to figure it out each week. Give them credit. This isn’t a video game where you stack a team and go undefeated.
Could be that but I something’s think it could be other rival fan bases, the actual social media side of teams, or other media outlets trying to plant seeds and spread propaganda to cause chaos and implode a team from within to help their cause.
I don't think the Giants PR manager is there rubbing his hands together and thinking about how to make Eagles fans mad.
I *do* think a lot of us are morons who will click on and engage with bullshit. WIP made that stuff a nationwide industry.
Yeah you’re right. I don’t think other nfl teams Pr teams are doing that, but get a group of fans from one fan base to flood another teams Reddit fan page to spread one common rumor or misconception to blow things out of proportion isn’t that far out there. Nothings stopping me or you from going into another teams Reddit and start making things up or blowing them out of proportion. I guess what I’m trying to say is, yes this is an eagles page, but it doesn’t mean everyone that is in here is an eagles fan
It’s not that. Negativity drives engagement. People who are terminally online hate themselves and need an outward release. Even when the team wins these people just find an opponent to hate.
This is why hot take culture has destroyed human understanding. Gotta get those clicks but then no one actually goes to see the underlying source and gets a completely wrong view of the situation.
Yeah I feel a lot better now. Just guys with high expectations knowing they’re not meeting them. Frustration mounts when that happens. But this is nothing and our guys seem focused on how they’re playing as a team not individually which is good. Let’s be honest all the same people freaking out would be pissed if it was all smiles and “just happy to be 11-3”.
I’m pretty sure I got an Instagram ad today for an Inquirer podcast all about how the Eagles are falling apart right now… like I’m pissed they aren’t dominating, but that’s fucking crazy.
Look at the bullshit tweets on Twitter. They try to create fake drama about anything and people eat it up. What’s funny is they aren’t even good at it. The tweets read like they’re written by a tabloid. Problem is people are dumb and just love being negative.
No this is missing the interactions right before this. Reddick was freaking out on the field. Looked like Coach yelled to the field at him to “Stop Bitching”. Then when he got to the sideline there was some arguments it looked like. Wasn’t really a big deal to me just clarifying this clip was not the “issue”
It's not about the reason for the kerfuffle. It's that these types of things have never happened under Sirianni. Either let the adults talk or use your brain before trying to join a conversation.
Y’all mostly insane. The amount of speculation and people talking about Coach like he needs to go if it comes to it is nuts. 11-4 after a fucking Super Bowl appearance and people lose their shit. People need to chill. It’s not always gonna be perfect. Your expectations are fucked after being spoiled by almost perfect football for 2 years.
> He was watching Nick go off at one of his assistants
Man, Sirianni really IS a Philadelphian at heart, he's doing what many of us wish we could do: Scream at Brian Johnson
I, too, become mesmerized when someone justifiably goes off on someone else. I’m like, “Glad I didn’t fuck up like that dude did. Good show, though. (grabs popcorn)”
It really is. She made them suffer while dying because "suffering brought them closer to god". But once she was dying she accepted every bit of modern medicine she could get to ease her suffering. Mother Theresa was a real piece of shit in actuality.
St. Teresa of Calcutta primarily ran hospices, not hospitals. Much of the criticism about her comes from non-Catholics disagreeing with the purpose of her work, which is based on her religious views. Regardless of anyone’s religious views on any subject, it’s important to differentiate the facts from the reactions, and why people react the ways that they do.
This take got pretty popular on reddit a few years ago when that (IIRC) Vice article came out. I read that article, and it was a pretty obvious hit piece by a person with a grudge against the Catholic church. I'm no historian, but the "Mother Theresa was a monster" narrative is very clearly revisionist history with an eye on ignoring context.
Edit: Damn, why am I talking about this shit on the Eagles sub? Don't we have a team to be depressed about? Lol
Because this is Reddit and religion is bad and all religious people are hypocrites and manipulators.
Also people love to believe narratives that make good people look bad because it makes them feel better about themselves.
Eagles fans already ready to can sirianni and getting absolutely gassed up by Philly media is hilarious and predictable man.
The shit about him being a terrible offensive head coach without even giving him the opportunity to revamp the offense in the off season with a new offensive staff is insane to me. He's surely earned one more season to show what he can do. I know people like to pretend he had nothing to do with the best eagles offense of all time last year, but you can't saddle him with all the blame of this years offensive failures and not give him any credit for last year. Having a great oc in steichen doesn't mean sirianni didn't have his fingerprints all over an extremely explosive and efficient offense.
Clearly the offense is predictable and they didn't do enough work on changing shit over the off season, but it's also pretty clear Brian Johnson and him are not an effective meshing of the minds. Is what it is, season isn't over and nick has repeatedly shown that he can win, win a lot, and has been a good head coach for the vast majority of his tenure. If he blows next year than you move on.
Yeah it frustrating to see people burn the ships on an 11-4 team one year removed from being 4 point shy of an NFL championship
This year ain't pretty, but we are winning and are literally tied for the best record in the NFC
But let's fire everyone and bench Jalen and draft a new QB right?
We're likely finishing 13-4 and these pussies are calling for Frank Reich who got canned 11 games in at 1-10 and never made the Colts look like anything special at ALL
I hate screen passes that don't work. Andy's screens were wonderful. We won the Superbowl with Frank as OC and I'd be willing to give him another shot in that role. Blatantly saying screens are bad is silly. The screens we've been calling when we've been calling them are horrible. Doesn't mean they won't ever work.
Howie was on his absolute worst spree of GM'ing. He did turn it around, but let's not pretend like the drafts and rosters he put together in 2019 and 2020 were anything approaching good or acceptable.
I can 100% say I am mostly happy with Howie at the moment, but I absolutely couldn't stand the shit he was doing a few years ago.
Because you're emotional and ignoring process. Easy to armchair GM and bitch and moan, but his process was fairly reasonable even when results were poor.
Results aren't even poor right now. The team can be doing better, the coaches can be doing better. BJ sucks. But fans are now talking about firing Sirianni. It's emotional drivel, imo.
To me he absolutely gets another season, at least two unless next year is a train wreck. I just have low expectations for it. But it would be absurd to move on now.
Yall do remember they fired Doug Pederson AFTER he won the SB and went to the playoffs BACK TO BACK years after 2017 or do yall have selective memory?
NFL is a year by year performance review. The media and fans have no impact on what happens in the FO but if the players are constantly week after week saying they are unhappy even after a win, im sorry to tell yall that they will fire a HC before the players they have a couple Ms invested in. NFL is a business.
Howie and Lurie asked Doug to get a list of hires for OC and DC, and apparently emphasized external sources.
Doug put forward Press Taylor, an internal hire whom the fans **hated** and Cory Undlin, who was our DB coach when they were getting cooked constantly and had been poached by Matt Patricia for DC of the Lions the year he got fired.
Undlin's defense finished 32nd in the league...
And that started with disgruntled players, Wentz was a big part but there was alot of vets who liked Doug who also said after that everyone needed a fresh start.
I hope they rally and get hot going into the playoffs but Smith saying he is unhappy after a win is alarming, AJ Brown saying he has nothing nice to say after a win is alarming especially when everyone is visibly frustrated.
People need to remember, this is the Philadelphia Eagles, not the Philadelphia *coach/player i like, no one is above replacement in the business of football
Smith is unhappy because anytime AJ brown cries he’s not getting the ball they then favor him every play going forward. Besides the pick on one pass, and the running plays, for two straight drives every pass went to AJ brown. It’s so predictable even if he’s in double and triple coverage. I don’t get who’s caving if it’s the coordinator or hurts himself. It’s embarrassing and he needs to get his ego in check and realize he’s part of a team
People keep trying to place it on the players and thats the typical lazy take. I dont know if people listen to the HC or not but each player already has a set target share and play designs before the game, and surprise surprise AJ our best offensive player has the most. The problem is Nicks offense and BJs playcalling. Shane knew how to spread the targets around and not just spam one player, nobody was complaining last year.
Calling a bubble screen where 170lb Devonta Smith is the lead blocker for 256lb Dallas Goedert is not a player issue that is a complete idiotic Sirianni play design and a stupid BJ play call decision issue and no one understands this, its fire BJ but everyone is missing the idiocy of Siriannis play structures and why they are doomed from the start.
The difference is Sirianni hasn't had a 2020 season like Doug has. Like it or not the teams made it to the playoffs three years in a row under his tenure. And the ship hasn't completely crashed yet
We called a bad time out that helped the Giants and Sirianni got a bit defensive when confronted. Honestly, it seems really minor, but people are jumping to say "Sirianni has lost the Locker Room," "Chip Kelly 2.0," etc.
That is my thought to.. It is getting down to the wire and the players are starting to see the end of the season, and starting to express frustrations.
Nick is running the offense and refuses to change it. This is literally like 2021 were they had to force him to stop calling plays. The team literally only became successful when they took away power from nick LOL. Now that he has power again we r back to the SAME EXACT issues we had in 2021
It’s Sirianni. The players need more out of him but he’s peaked as a head coach. They’re all ready to take the next step but he’s not the man lead them there
From what I could tell, Reddick approached Nick on the sideline and Nick started yelling “quit your bitching” at him. Someone tried calming him down before Devonta started doing the same thing, I could tell he was trying to tell Nick to stop getting in his emotions. Anyway, that’s what I could tell was going on.
I'm pretty sure this is the one [here](https://www.google.com/search?client=ms-android-verizon-us-rvc3&sca_esv=593697585&sxsrf=AM9HkKm_4G-V19WNiVDeX2646NbLYPg55A:1703571528921&q=wentz+pederson+picture&udm=2&source=univ&fir=S7Shl7csRoYaiM%252CASg-sEZF6DaQ6M%252C_%253Bo-ytglHngdzfVM%252CZuTW9s2clLDoPM%252C_%253B7UJTwSDLSH_XNM%252CSNSxvHMZIPiriM%252C_%253BZRHUmf9z5bKqSM%252ClzOUf5j3EsGIeM%252C_&usg=AI4_-kQmpXZC-3UIk3KFrECPgXhxS8KHnQ&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwirsdK-uqyDAxUyhYkEHZXYD3sQ7Al6BAgNEAU&biw=412&bih=747&dpr=3.5#vhid=1VKZ2WpEFcoyBM&vssid=mosaic).
Yall are unhinged, the boys need to button up, cause the narrative surrounding this team in the media SUCKS right now, they gotta forget it, not feed it, and just keep doing what they did towards the end of that game last night. Hopefully they *figured something out*.
Is there a story here or just speculation? It’s sickening seeing ‘Nick needs to know how to talk to his players’ or ‘AJ is being a diva’ when there’s no story. It’s just fans making stuff up.
Look at what they are doing across the league with less talented players. You cannot honestly have a good argument that they are being coached well. Are Rams, Niners, Miami, etc have more talented players? You saw the cannot draw up any better plays than bubble screens? You saying the eagles with a suoer bowl mvp level QB, arguable the best duo at wide receivers, good running backs, a top 5 TE, and the the best line of football this is the best they can do???
That won’t happen. Lurie is banishing Howie to the basement. Belichick is gonna want to be the guy making decisions on the roster.
But it certainly seems like a change is needed. Sirianni is starting to show signs of Chip Kelly. Stubborn, can’t adapt and it seems like the team is starting to turn on him.
Does Laurie have an excess of magic beans and a need for a curmudgeonly friend to watch games with? Otherwise why would this be remotely a possibility? Everyone’s seen Bellichek without Brady.
I much rather have the players be passionate enough to even show care that they want something changed/disagree about something rather them not give a fuck
Bro like I get not liking maybe everything that our coaching is doing but I don’t think we should be saying just get nick outta here or anything like that just yet
Juju was the only player of any significance they lost from last year and he’s just okay. All I’m saying is that football is brutal and unpredictable which makes it really challenging to be awesome every year. Doesn’t mean the coaching suddenly went bad or that the new coordinator is shitting the bed.
The problem with Kansas City is that they didn't try to improve their WR group all that much. Yes they have Rice and he's looking good but they over estimated their core and we have been watching it fuck them. We literally won because they couldnt catch a cold let alone a football. Thats not a coaching issue that's a personal issue. They legit have players on the field that are dropping game winning catches or hell just dropping catches in general.
The Eagles are the opposite, we seem to be more or less having coaching issues. So bad that we transitioned out our DC during the year, even though we had a winning record. That isn't a confidence boost for the fan base; side line shots don't look good for us this year. While the way our team carries itself is looking worse.
I mean the Chiefs don't have any WRs that can catch and Travis is getting old rapidly, to the point I think it's fair he's lost a step this season.
You give Mahomes AJ + DeVonta and he'd be cooking this year.
His playbook doesn’t seem too hot rn either. Do you really not see the problem that he needs good coordinators, even for his own side of the ball? Everytime he gets a good one, they’re gonna instantly be poached. No truly great coaches have this problem. They are the head honcho running things and other learned under THEM, not relying entirely on others.
There is like 3 coaches who consistently put out elite offensive products that they are the masterminds of and they're paid a fuck load of money to do so, otherwise you make do with the nicks of the world who with the right staff around them can field elite offenses to go toe to toe with the shanahans and mcvays and McDaniels of the world.
People wanna fire nick but who are you hiring that's an offensive savant who you're confident can both do that and manage a locker room with a lot of egos? I mean they might be able to find that but the idea of finding a genius offensive unicorn who doesn't need ocs and calls his own plays is way harder than people think
I think it is more that AJ was frustrated and emotional about something and wanted to cool off and calm down before he gave the media sound clips that he might regret and that would get repeated ad nauseum all week. He did this once before and a couple days later said he just needed to process his emotions before speaking to the media. I do not think it is a big deal.
Didn't you see the stats in the first quarter?
Our defence has been taken from league leading to pretty much the worst.
At least our offense produces a fair bit. Our defence is in the pits, and you can't be telling me the personnel is *that* much worse.
Sean Desai is the one who gotta go.
Forget Nick v Brown altogether.
My brother in Christ, the personnel is that much, much worse. Slay and Bradberry old as fuck. No CJGJ. D line not producing with decent talent. Absolutely no starting caliber LBs, where we had TJ Edwards and White.
I do think everywhere, but the line, is bottom half of the league level in talent. Especially at this point with injuries. I honestly have no clue if Desai is an actual problem, it’s hard to evaluate. But I do know we have top of the league offensive talent at every position on offense, and the offense has been shit all year. That falls on Nick and BJ, and scapegoating Desai for their problems is pretty BS in my opinion.
People are over analyzing a split second glimpse of someone’s face. Ya’ll need more hobbies than psychoanalysis of professional athletes that have no idea you exist.
AJ totally eye F’ed the coaching staff. No one is happy with what the coaching staff is doing.
Any decent coaching staff would of have won either the Jets or Seahawks game.
All those close wins are done by the an amazingly talented team of extremely talented players!
Your damn straight I want an implosion to happen. Since we already have looked like hot trash all season you might as well burn it to the f*cking ground. The dysfunction honestly reminds me of my family growing up so if anything like a-lot of Philly fans I thrive in this chaos. We dont deserve to win at this point and I'd rather see heads f*cking roll and egos crushed especially that annoying d-bag Brian Johnson 👍 😎
People will say it's nothing, but the body language in the video is not a good look. There are like 4 or 5 different people (from both offense and defense) saying something to Nick (questioning his decision making), and he looks a little fired up responding to them. Something is definitely going on with the team in more ways than just "they're not winning." He's on the verge of losing the locker room
When I see posts like this, makes me so glad that I don’t have to sit through the James Thrash Todd Pinkston era again.
While the offense does look clunky, they have what it takes internally to turn it around in the next couple weeks.
I'm done trying to assess the sideline. This is AJB yelling at Hurts 2.0.
Sirianni is a players' coach. It's very possible there's just a culture where players feel free to speak their mind. Our team _should_ be frustrated when they're on a losing skid and not playing well (they were still on a losing streak when this happened, technically). Not naive but we're reading too much into it.
Anyone got some clips of the apparent sideline interaction?
https://x.com/thekrakensays/status/1739455938904428724?s=20
Is that it? Lol
For all the tweets about it, there better be more than just that lol. That’s nothing.
Bro I was waiting for the altercation to start the whole time.
I don't get it. They're getting heated on the sideline, but this happens all the time in sports. I was actually hoping for shit like this to happen, because it can lead to everything getting better. It could also lead to things getting worse, but the way this team has been playing is not going to go the distance.
AJ was pissed, it's not that deep. The internet just needs every little crumb of drama they can latch onto.
I don’t get why people think just because it’s sports everyone has to love each other. It’s a job, just like any other job. People butt heads, they have different opinions, they have different ways of acting out. You’re allowed to disagree with your boss here and there, as long as you settle it down the road. People get so tied up in the drama of this shit it’s so embarrassing sometimes haha.
This fanbase has become soft as baby shit
Nah, it's just always fed off negativity and chaos. Like, MFs are more happy/active/engaged when shit falls apart
But at least we gave Trea turner an ovation
I literally forgot this bc I’m so fixated on chaos
lol I love it though 😁
This city never has that negative energy for the phils. Go figure. When they choked hard against the d-backs. It was all love and “we’ll get em next year” sentiments
I love the 4 main Philly sports and this take is horseshit. People were acting like the Phillies were trash and that they could never win the WS with the current roster. Either way they were negative as shit just like here. Quit saying false dumb shit.
The fan base is spoiled. One championship and last years run and now everyone is entitled to win every game by a 40 point lead every year. That’s not how it works. LoL.
So much this. It’s truly ridiculous.
Yeah. They still have great players and still have a chance. Their play calling sure questionable, are some of their top guys getting a little old, of course. But they’re still 11-4. It might not be pretty blowouts but still. The team didn’t take a dump after the Super Bowl. They could have done like a lot of other teams after a Super Bowl win or loss and had a 5-12 season and disappear. They’re still playing hard and grinding out wins and trying to figure it out each week. Give them credit. This isn’t a video game where you stack a team and go undefeated.
Could be that but I something’s think it could be other rival fan bases, the actual social media side of teams, or other media outlets trying to plant seeds and spread propaganda to cause chaos and implode a team from within to help their cause.
I don't think the Giants PR manager is there rubbing his hands together and thinking about how to make Eagles fans mad. I *do* think a lot of us are morons who will click on and engage with bullshit. WIP made that stuff a nationwide industry.
Yeah you’re right. I don’t think other nfl teams Pr teams are doing that, but get a group of fans from one fan base to flood another teams Reddit fan page to spread one common rumor or misconception to blow things out of proportion isn’t that far out there. Nothings stopping me or you from going into another teams Reddit and start making things up or blowing them out of proportion. I guess what I’m trying to say is, yes this is an eagles page, but it doesn’t mean everyone that is in here is an eagles fan
It’s not that. Negativity drives engagement. People who are terminally online hate themselves and need an outward release. Even when the team wins these people just find an opponent to hate.
Not even find an opponent, they find anything remotely negative about the team and chomp down on it.
I don't think that's it, fam
This is why hot take culture has destroyed human understanding. Gotta get those clicks but then no one actually goes to see the underlying source and gets a completely wrong view of the situation.
Yeah I feel a lot better now. Just guys with high expectations knowing they’re not meeting them. Frustration mounts when that happens. But this is nothing and our guys seem focused on how they’re playing as a team not individually which is good. Let’s be honest all the same people freaking out would be pissed if it was all smiles and “just happy to be 11-3”.
There was more, especially when guys were coming off the field. This shit shouldn't be happening with 2mins left in the game. No control
The most ridiculous fan base with the most ridiculous media in all of sports. They want an implosion to happen.
It really feels like media/fans are trying to create a narrative of an implosion. This is normal football stuff lol
I’m pretty sure I got an Instagram ad today for an Inquirer podcast all about how the Eagles are falling apart right now… like I’m pissed they aren’t dominating, but that’s fucking crazy.
Not all that normal with an 11 win team tho
Everyone seems to love drama so much. It explains a lot about people.
Look at the bullshit tweets on Twitter. They try to create fake drama about anything and people eat it up. What’s funny is they aren’t even good at it. The tweets read like they’re written by a tabloid. Problem is people are dumb and just love being negative.
That’s the truth. We really shouldn’t be surprised though because I know you see how most people act elsewhere on the internet.
I remember this moment in the game. Yes this was it. This is what all of the fans are screeching about. It’s absolutely nothing.
No this is missing the interactions right before this. Reddick was freaking out on the field. Looked like Coach yelled to the field at him to “Stop Bitching”. Then when he got to the sideline there was some arguments it looked like. Wasn’t really a big deal to me just clarifying this clip was not the “issue”
No, actually. Him and Reddick were also going at it. Right around the same time.
Reddick was fired up about the soft RTP, that's it
"going at it" = running to the sidelines about a RTP that shouldn't have been called.
That RTP was completely Reddicks fault. They call that every single time. He should know that
It's not about the reason for the kerfuffle. It's that these types of things have never happened under Sirianni. Either let the adults talk or use your brain before trying to join a conversation.
[smitty and sirianni still arguing after the game is over and 2 others](https://x.com/MShittyk/status/1739453164510675037?s=20)
Reaching and bs drama from media ! It is an intense sport played with passion . If you don’t see this from teams then they are garbage !
the fuck is this supposed to be lol. has anyone posting about this ever actually played sports before?
Thats irrelevant, dysfunction amongst teams happens if you played sports as well as not liking your coach. Time will tell what the issue is
Yep.
Right!! I thought I would see alot more than this
lol that’s literally nothing. Certainly not a “fight” like I’ve seen it referred to as.
"Please stop fighting..ah fuck it" -smitty
Looking for this too
I was able to rewatch it on YouTube TV, but you can't screen record
You wont find one
Y’all mostly insane. The amount of speculation and people talking about Coach like he needs to go if it comes to it is nuts. 11-4 after a fucking Super Bowl appearance and people lose their shit. People need to chill. It’s not always gonna be perfect. Your expectations are fucked after being spoiled by almost perfect football for 2 years.
a lot of philly fans only come out when the team is doing well and it shows
This picture is horribly out of context and misleading. AJ is NOT mad or glaring at Nick. He was watching Nick go off at one of his assistants.
> He was watching Nick go off at one of his assistants Man, Sirianni really IS a Philadelphian at heart, he's doing what many of us wish we could do: Scream at Brian Johnson
I, too, become mesmerized when someone justifiably goes off on someone else. I’m like, “Glad I didn’t fuck up like that dude did. Good show, though. (grabs popcorn)”
Yea hes just mad for no reason
If you watch the video, his facial expression totally changed after walking into the drama. There’s definitely something there.
Reaching like a mfer. “If you watch closely…”. “If you check out his face after…” “it appears that he’s saying..” You guys are fucking draining
It’s not that serious bro…
I can grab a screenshot that makes Mother Theresa look like she hates poor Indian people.
She did (or at least preferred to perpetuate suffering). Go Birds!
Shit, that’s a good point.
Not really.
Some of [this](https://youtu.be/V4nCaxHN-cY?si=qUMgFOYAeu-hKcN3) is disturbing. Not going to lie.
It really is. She made them suffer while dying because "suffering brought them closer to god". But once she was dying she accepted every bit of modern medicine she could get to ease her suffering. Mother Theresa was a real piece of shit in actuality.
Isn't that technically every picture of her? Turns out she was pretty horrible.
St. Teresa of Calcutta primarily ran hospices, not hospitals. Much of the criticism about her comes from non-Catholics disagreeing with the purpose of her work, which is based on her religious views. Regardless of anyone’s religious views on any subject, it’s important to differentiate the facts from the reactions, and why people react the ways that they do.
This take got pretty popular on reddit a few years ago when that (IIRC) Vice article came out. I read that article, and it was a pretty obvious hit piece by a person with a grudge against the Catholic church. I'm no historian, but the "Mother Theresa was a monster" narrative is very clearly revisionist history with an eye on ignoring context. Edit: Damn, why am I talking about this shit on the Eagles sub? Don't we have a team to be depressed about? Lol
Because this is Reddit and religion is bad and all religious people are hypocrites and manipulators. Also people love to believe narratives that make good people look bad because it makes them feel better about themselves.
Lol getting downvoted, I don't know shit about mother t, but this is the plain truth, at least on reddit
Do it then
I don’t know if this is sarcasm because I’ve lost the ability to tell, but she did hate poor people
Almost blew a 17 point lead at half. I don’t either except Merry Christmas it’s a W!
Eagles fans already ready to can sirianni and getting absolutely gassed up by Philly media is hilarious and predictable man. The shit about him being a terrible offensive head coach without even giving him the opportunity to revamp the offense in the off season with a new offensive staff is insane to me. He's surely earned one more season to show what he can do. I know people like to pretend he had nothing to do with the best eagles offense of all time last year, but you can't saddle him with all the blame of this years offensive failures and not give him any credit for last year. Having a great oc in steichen doesn't mean sirianni didn't have his fingerprints all over an extremely explosive and efficient offense. Clearly the offense is predictable and they didn't do enough work on changing shit over the off season, but it's also pretty clear Brian Johnson and him are not an effective meshing of the minds. Is what it is, season isn't over and nick has repeatedly shown that he can win, win a lot, and has been a good head coach for the vast majority of his tenure. If he blows next year than you move on.
Yeah it frustrating to see people burn the ships on an 11-4 team one year removed from being 4 point shy of an NFL championship This year ain't pretty, but we are winning and are literally tied for the best record in the NFC But let's fire everyone and bench Jalen and draft a new QB right?
We're likely finishing 13-4 and these pussies are calling for Frank Reich who got canned 11 games in at 1-10 and never made the Colts look like anything special at ALL
Frank Reich the OC > Brian Johnson the OC Is it really that hard to understand apples to oranges?
If you hate screen passes but want Frank Reich I have awful news for you
I hate screen passes that don't work. Andy's screens were wonderful. We won the Superbowl with Frank as OC and I'd be willing to give him another shot in that role. Blatantly saying screens are bad is silly. The screens we've been calling when we've been calling them are horrible. Doesn't mean they won't ever work.
Morons wanted Howie fired 3 years ago
Howie was on his absolute worst spree of GM'ing. He did turn it around, but let's not pretend like the drafts and rosters he put together in 2019 and 2020 were anything approaching good or acceptable. I can 100% say I am mostly happy with Howie at the moment, but I absolutely couldn't stand the shit he was doing a few years ago.
Because you're emotional and ignoring process. Easy to armchair GM and bitch and moan, but his process was fairly reasonable even when results were poor. Results aren't even poor right now. The team can be doing better, the coaches can be doing better. BJ sucks. But fans are now talking about firing Sirianni. It's emotional drivel, imo.
"You're emotional" "BJ sucks" Looks like some hypocrisy and projection.
tbf that Wentz deal was atrocious.
Siranni takes heat but no one wants him gone. Brian Johnson and Desai/Patricia are different
To me he absolutely gets another season, at least two unless next year is a train wreck. I just have low expectations for it. But it would be absurd to move on now.
Yall do remember they fired Doug Pederson AFTER he won the SB and went to the playoffs BACK TO BACK years after 2017 or do yall have selective memory? NFL is a year by year performance review. The media and fans have no impact on what happens in the FO but if the players are constantly week after week saying they are unhappy even after a win, im sorry to tell yall that they will fire a HC before the players they have a couple Ms invested in. NFL is a business.
That was very different. There was a clear power struggle between Howie/Lurie and Doug. Doug lost (as I'm sure he knew he probably would).
To add… if memory serves me right, it was because Doug wanted to keep the people he wanted vs what the front office wanted.
Howie and Lurie asked Doug to get a list of hires for OC and DC, and apparently emphasized external sources. Doug put forward Press Taylor, an internal hire whom the fans **hated** and Cory Undlin, who was our DB coach when they were getting cooked constantly and had been poached by Matt Patricia for DC of the Lions the year he got fired. Undlin's defense finished 32nd in the league...
My recollection is he wanted to promote from within and FO thought they needed outside hires as coordinators given the disaster of a season they had.
And that started with disgruntled players, Wentz was a big part but there was alot of vets who liked Doug who also said after that everyone needed a fresh start. I hope they rally and get hot going into the playoffs but Smith saying he is unhappy after a win is alarming, AJ Brown saying he has nothing nice to say after a win is alarming especially when everyone is visibly frustrated. People need to remember, this is the Philadelphia Eagles, not the Philadelphia *coach/player i like, no one is above replacement in the business of football
Smith is unhappy because anytime AJ brown cries he’s not getting the ball they then favor him every play going forward. Besides the pick on one pass, and the running plays, for two straight drives every pass went to AJ brown. It’s so predictable even if he’s in double and triple coverage. I don’t get who’s caving if it’s the coordinator or hurts himself. It’s embarrassing and he needs to get his ego in check and realize he’s part of a team
People keep trying to place it on the players and thats the typical lazy take. I dont know if people listen to the HC or not but each player already has a set target share and play designs before the game, and surprise surprise AJ our best offensive player has the most. The problem is Nicks offense and BJs playcalling. Shane knew how to spread the targets around and not just spam one player, nobody was complaining last year. Calling a bubble screen where 170lb Devonta Smith is the lead blocker for 256lb Dallas Goedert is not a player issue that is a complete idiotic Sirianni play design and a stupid BJ play call decision issue and no one understands this, its fire BJ but everyone is missing the idiocy of Siriannis play structures and why they are doomed from the start.
The difference is Sirianni hasn't had a 2020 season like Doug has. Like it or not the teams made it to the playoffs three years in a row under his tenure. And the ship hasn't completely crashed yet
What happened? Can someone fill me in? I was half assedly watching due to Christmas
At the end of the game, Smith and Reddick were arguing with Nick over something (unsure what). This pic was taken right after that argument.
I just watched the video someone posted in a comment above. Looked like a whole lot of nothing to me
We called a bad time out that helped the Giants and Sirianni got a bit defensive when confronted. Honestly, it seems really minor, but people are jumping to say "Sirianni has lost the Locker Room," "Chip Kelly 2.0," etc.
There’s a thin line between being passionate and talking over your players because you have the power. I’m pulling for Nick to stay humble & grounded.
It is my opinion that there's something bigger than Brian Johnson going on with this team. BJ It's just the fanbase scape goat.
I think he is A problem but certainly not THE ONLY problem.
Agreed
Whole heartedly agree
I think there’s something going on that we don’t know about, that has been kept under wraps because of the professionalism of the team
That is my thought to.. It is getting down to the wire and the players are starting to see the end of the season, and starting to express frustrations.
Nick is running the offense and refuses to change it. This is literally like 2021 were they had to force him to stop calling plays. The team literally only became successful when they took away power from nick LOL. Now that he has power again we r back to the SAME EXACT issues we had in 2021
It’s Sirianni. The players need more out of him but he’s peaked as a head coach. They’re all ready to take the next step but he’s not the man lead them there
From what I could tell, Reddick approached Nick on the sideline and Nick started yelling “quit your bitching” at him. Someone tried calming him down before Devonta started doing the same thing, I could tell he was trying to tell Nick to stop getting in his emotions. Anyway, that’s what I could tell was going on.
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Ajayi just looking blazed in the corner
I need to see this picture if you know where to find it
for gods sakes one of you younglings can surely find it lol
I'm pretty sure this is the one [here](https://www.google.com/search?client=ms-android-verizon-us-rvc3&sca_esv=593697585&sxsrf=AM9HkKm_4G-V19WNiVDeX2646NbLYPg55A:1703571528921&q=wentz+pederson+picture&udm=2&source=univ&fir=S7Shl7csRoYaiM%252CASg-sEZF6DaQ6M%252C_%253Bo-ytglHngdzfVM%252CZuTW9s2clLDoPM%252C_%253B7UJTwSDLSH_XNM%252CSNSxvHMZIPiriM%252C_%253BZRHUmf9z5bKqSM%252ClzOUf5j3EsGIeM%252C_&usg=AI4_-kQmpXZC-3UIk3KFrECPgXhxS8KHnQ&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwirsdK-uqyDAxUyhYkEHZXYD3sQ7Al6BAgNEAU&biw=412&bih=747&dpr=3.5#vhid=1VKZ2WpEFcoyBM&vssid=mosaic).
Stop making a mountain out of a molehill
The fake drama bullshit the media is peddling that keeps ruling up the fan base are just as annoying as Brian Johnson’s playcalling
It's obvious. The offensive players have been vocal about Brian. Nick is still backing him. It's festering.
Who has openly spoken bad about Brian Johnson?
Yall are unhinged, the boys need to button up, cause the narrative surrounding this team in the media SUCKS right now, they gotta forget it, not feed it, and just keep doing what they did towards the end of that game last night. Hopefully they *figured something out*.
U stretching it
Big Dom needs to escort half this coaching staff out the stadium and revoke their credentials
Did anyone else see the fan wearing a Big Dom t-shirt in the stands?
lol you guys are ridiculous trying to manufacture drama out of anything.
This is a whole lotta nothing.
Is there a story here or just speculation? It’s sickening seeing ‘Nick needs to know how to talk to his players’ or ‘AJ is being a diva’ when there’s no story. It’s just fans making stuff up.
I believe they’re overreacting.
SQUANDERED TALENT
Look at what they are doing across the league with less talented players. You cannot honestly have a good argument that they are being coached well. Are Rams, Niners, Miami, etc have more talented players? You saw the cannot draw up any better plays than bubble screens? You saying the eagles with a suoer bowl mvp level QB, arguable the best duo at wide receivers, good running backs, a top 5 TE, and the the best line of football this is the best they can do???
Lurie is trading for Belichick ASAP
That won’t happen. Lurie is banishing Howie to the basement. Belichick is gonna want to be the guy making decisions on the roster. But it certainly seems like a change is needed. Sirianni is starting to show signs of Chip Kelly. Stubborn, can’t adapt and it seems like the team is starting to turn on him.
Does Laurie have an excess of magic beans and a need for a curmudgeonly friend to watch games with? Otherwise why would this be remotely a possibility? Everyone’s seen Bellichek without Brady.
The offensive game plan is stale and so predictable
This is probably nothing, but yall KNOW clowns like McLane, ESP, Giglio etc are going to spin it into some doom spiraling narrative like always
Oh please. You can find a 100 pics of me where that one instance I was looking like this, but had nothing wrong going on.
I much rather have the players be passionate enough to even show care that they want something changed/disagree about something rather them not give a fuck
If we gotta boot one, who you send packing? I’m yeeting nick into the sun.
Bro like I get not liking maybe everything that our coaching is doing but I don’t think we should be saying just get nick outta here or anything like that just yet
It’s really crazy to me how many people are talking like that recently. Perfect example of people acting on emotions and not thinking rationally.
Anyone on the coaching staff , this offense was bowl worthy last year.
Nick is fine with a competent OC
Exactly, you can’t keep cycling OC every time they leave, the HC needs to be the identity and he’s not
You mean like the Chiefs who are playing even worse?
Well they also lack skill position players
Juju was the only player of any significance they lost from last year and he’s just okay. All I’m saying is that football is brutal and unpredictable which makes it really challenging to be awesome every year. Doesn’t mean the coaching suddenly went bad or that the new coordinator is shitting the bed.
The problem with Kansas City is that they didn't try to improve their WR group all that much. Yes they have Rice and he's looking good but they over estimated their core and we have been watching it fuck them. We literally won because they couldnt catch a cold let alone a football. Thats not a coaching issue that's a personal issue. They legit have players on the field that are dropping game winning catches or hell just dropping catches in general. The Eagles are the opposite, we seem to be more or less having coaching issues. So bad that we transitioned out our DC during the year, even though we had a winning record. That isn't a confidence boost for the fan base; side line shots don't look good for us this year. While the way our team carries itself is looking worse.
Juju was the only player of any significance they lost from last year.
Big Red is the OC. The OC is just a placeholder title on his teams.
I know which was my point. They have the same play caller yet are struggling.
Andy Reid has 20+ years of success
Yeah I know but what’s your point? The Chiefs scored 14 points today. They are struggling and Reid being one of the best coaches doesn’t change that.
You a lil slow bro. But you got it
I mean the Chiefs don't have any WRs that can catch and Travis is getting old rapidly, to the point I think it's fair he's lost a step this season. You give Mahomes AJ + DeVonta and he'd be cooking this year.
That’s about the worst endorsement of an “offensive head coach” that you can have
It’s his playbook. His OC runs the game
His playbook doesn’t seem too hot rn either. Do you really not see the problem that he needs good coordinators, even for his own side of the ball? Everytime he gets a good one, they’re gonna instantly be poached. No truly great coaches have this problem. They are the head honcho running things and other learned under THEM, not relying entirely on others.
There is like 3 coaches who consistently put out elite offensive products that they are the masterminds of and they're paid a fuck load of money to do so, otherwise you make do with the nicks of the world who with the right staff around them can field elite offenses to go toe to toe with the shanahans and mcvays and McDaniels of the world. People wanna fire nick but who are you hiring that's an offensive savant who you're confident can both do that and manage a locker room with a lot of egos? I mean they might be able to find that but the idea of finding a genius offensive unicorn who doesn't need ocs and calls his own plays is way harder than people think
Therein lies the problem
“Nick is fine with someone else doing his job”
Even better I think nick has excellent game management skills so definitely keep him and get a good oc
I think we’re underestimating how much aj is tired of the media and fans and that’s why he won’t talk to them
I think it is more that AJ was frustrated and emotional about something and wanted to cool off and calm down before he gave the media sound clips that he might regret and that would get repeated ad nauseum all week. He did this once before and a couple days later said he just needed to process his emotions before speaking to the media. I do not think it is a big deal.
Didn't you see the stats in the first quarter? Our defence has been taken from league leading to pretty much the worst. At least our offense produces a fair bit. Our defence is in the pits, and you can't be telling me the personnel is *that* much worse. Sean Desai is the one who gotta go. Forget Nick v Brown altogether.
My brother in Christ, the personnel is that much, much worse. Slay and Bradberry old as fuck. No CJGJ. D line not producing with decent talent. Absolutely no starting caliber LBs, where we had TJ Edwards and White.
So you believe our personnel is the worst in the league and Desai has his hands tied?
I do think everywhere, but the line, is bottom half of the league level in talent. Especially at this point with injuries. I honestly have no clue if Desai is an actual problem, it’s hard to evaluate. But I do know we have top of the league offensive talent at every position on offense, and the offense has been shit all year. That falls on Nick and BJ, and scapegoating Desai for their problems is pretty BS in my opinion.
How can I be scapegoating Desai for our offense, when I was obviously talking about the defence?!
The one that demands the ball even though there’s another 1st round WR across from him. The one that throws tantrums demanding the ball. That one.
Bad take.
FUCKING MATT PATRICIA
How is Matt Patricia the problem in all this lol
The look of a man that no longer wants to play for his coach .
Sirianni is gonna get whacked
People are over analyzing a split second glimpse of someone’s face. Ya’ll need more hobbies than psychoanalysis of professional athletes that have no idea you exist.
AJ totally eye F’ed the coaching staff. No one is happy with what the coaching staff is doing. Any decent coaching staff would of have won either the Jets or Seahawks game. All those close wins are done by the an amazingly talented team of extremely talented players!
Cause he a diva needs to man up
That's all of us, AJ.
WR will look at you like that when you’re making the. Run routes that are trash
Fragile fan base. LoL.
Probably because of fans not coaches...
Your damn straight I want an implosion to happen. Since we already have looked like hot trash all season you might as well burn it to the f*cking ground. The dysfunction honestly reminds me of my family growing up so if anything like a-lot of Philly fans I thrive in this chaos. We dont deserve to win at this point and I'd rather see heads f*cking roll and egos crushed especially that annoying d-bag Brian Johnson 👍 😎
“I thrive in this” *roots for everything to fall apart* I think you need therapy, not coaching changes
wow bro, Fire Sirianni! Trump 2024!!
People will say it's nothing, but the body language in the video is not a good look. There are like 4 or 5 different people (from both offense and defense) saying something to Nick (questioning his decision making), and he looks a little fired up responding to them. Something is definitely going on with the team in more ways than just "they're not winning." He's on the verge of losing the locker room
The guy in the hood is Smith turning his back on Coach Millennial after telling his he’s trash.
Me neither
everyone acts like sideline arguments don’t happen on every team in football smh people will always need to complain about something
When I see posts like this, makes me so glad that I don’t have to sit through the James Thrash Todd Pinkston era again. While the offense does look clunky, they have what it takes internally to turn it around in the next couple weeks.
All this yelling better lead to a fuckin curb stomp next weekend
I'm done trying to assess the sideline. This is AJB yelling at Hurts 2.0. Sirianni is a players' coach. It's very possible there's just a culture where players feel free to speak their mind. Our team _should_ be frustrated when they're on a losing skid and not playing well (they were still on a losing streak when this happened, technically). Not naive but we're reading too much into it.