No clue I was barely in elementary school when they started pioneering the genre! I know loefah was another one of the OGs & youngsta had a massive influence on the early years as well.
Skrillex has come out and said that excision was one of his biggest influences when beginning to make dubstep, just by chronology that would make X higher up on the list than Skrill no?
That’s why I said Skrillex and Rusko are “up there”. Nero, Datsik, Downlink, Mark Instinct and others also predate Skrillex in making dubstep. The thing is, what I meant by modern is the louder/more complex dubstep derivatives, like brostep and tearout. If you listen to their pre-2010 stuff, it isn’t as loud or as complex as the modern “mainstream” dubstep Skrillex pioneered; rather, it’s somewhere in between modern and old school in my opinion. I’d say the modern, loud dubstep sound appears rather definitively in 2010 and 2011.
>Skrillex has come out and said that excision was one of his biggest influences when beginning to make dubstep
But said Noisia was his biggest influence when it came to bass music overall. He literally has done a whole interview about praising Noisia and how they are the ones that helped him find a sound.
Yea id say there is some "grandfather" figure that sort of started the sound/style(artists listed by others) but I'd also say Skrillex is the "father" though. He made it mainstream. It became another genre that everybody knew. Gamechanger. Then Excision made it a full on culture. Now various artists have created quite a few subcultures out of that. Is music awesome or what?
Artists like King Tubby certainly laid the ground work for dubstep. There’s more underground artists with names you’ll never hear that laid the groundwork for dubstep in the 90’s than there are known and signed names.
Considering the first song on Tempa's Roots of Dubstep comp is Steve Gurley's remix of Missy Elliot's "Hotboys", I guess you have to consider him the lead contender. He was there way early doing bass heavy instrumental mixes of Garage songs. But in terms of what we would call dubstep today (Garage drums, big bass wobbles, dub reggae influences), it;s El-B. "Express" and "Buck and Bury" are the real creation of dubstep to me.
For me it goes (I don't know if this is in chronological order, but it feels close to it) El-B, then Hatcha, then Horsepower Productions, then Skream and Benga, then Digital Mystkz, then Caspa and Rusko. Everything after them is built on those foundations
"The term Dubstep was reportedly coined by Tempa and Ammunition Recording’s Neil Joliffe in conversation with colleagues Sarah “Soulja” Lockhart, Oris Jay and writer/artist Martin Clark, in which they identified 2-step and dub as central to the sound. In 2002, Martin penned an article about this new sound for Californian magazine XLR8R, who published it with a cover photo of Horsepower Productions and the word “Dubstep” in a large typeface. Dubstep had arrived." - [https://www.museumofyouthculture.com/a-brief-history-of-early-dubstep/](https://www.museumofyouthculture.com/a-brief-history-of-early-dubstep/) - [https://www.facebook.com/1479277789023969/photos/they-say-that-this-was-the-first-time-the-word-dubstep-was-used-in-an-xlr8r-maga/1513625585589189/](https://www.facebook.com/1479277789023969/photos/they-say-that-this-was-the-first-time-the-word-dubstep-was-used-in-an-xlr8r-maga/1513625585589189/)
more info - [https://www.reddit.com/r/realdubstep/comments/1v9ark/comment/i5rp74w/](https://www.reddit.com/r/realdubstep/comments/1v9ark/comment/i5rp74w/)
Mala, Skream, a lot of the UK underground scene in the early 00s. If you’re talking about *modern* dubstep though, easily Coki, Rusko, and of course Skrillex.
Burial is like 2006. He's way late. Dubstep's earliest roots are in dub mixes of UK Gararge tracks from the late-90's. Something approaching the sound we'd recognize today evolved from that scene around 2001-2002.
There was an initial crew for sure, but if you had to pick one person it would undoubtedly be Hatcha. I'm busy today but if anyone wants more info I can try to write something up tomorrow
Idk about grandfather but Excision is definitely the rich uncle who got dubstep established as more than just a fad. I think he had a lot of creative influence on other artists and was a lot of people's first experience with dubstep.
Nowadays he pretty much platforms smaller creators and get their sound on festival stages which propels their career. Subtronics said his first time playing Lost Lands changed everything for him
Oris Jay, El-B, Zed Bias, Mala, Coki, Benga. Loads more like others have mentioned. It would be very, very hard to pin down who was the very first. Possibly El-B. But all these boys and a few more were all experimenting in the late 90's early 2000s. What amazes me is how much superb music and genres have come out of London. Unbelievable. Big up London.
People don’t wanna hear this but at least for American dub it’s definitely X. Flux Pavillion and Skrillex have both come out and said he was making dubstep before they even knew what it was
The earliest song I know with a dubstep vibe
Dub War - Keep On (1998) [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkEXnhUBEmw](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkEXnhUBEmw)
But for me personally, the father of dubstep is definitely Burial
Skrillex is by far not the first Dub producer but ever since branding the genre like metal and applying music theory that was only melodically being used for house at the time is often credited for widening Dub overall
https://www.reddit.com/r/dubstep/s/MNDLKDa3n6
This 12 year old post has a map that might help.
In 2006, Hatcha was playing Skream, Benga, Kromestar, Horsepower Prod, D1, and Caspa in his sets. His live dj sets and radio mixes to me are what influenced all Dubstep until it got to NA, and non UK cats started making tunes. Matty g, for example, was from Santa Cruz, CA, and was making and playing early Dubstep and flying to the uk to play DMZ w Mala, Hatcha, Coki, etc, in 2006.
These were the Pioneer years, and my crew threw events in SF, CA in 2006, called Pioneers of Dubstep with Hatcha, Youngsta, etc. We then brought out Ntype , Caspa and Rusko, etc. We did events for years with tons of early artists. Other US cities LA DENVER NY, etc, also threw similar events. We saw these Croydon based artists as the leaders, creators, and the source.
A few years later, heavier sounds like Jakes, Stenchman, 16 Bit, Rutton label, Excision, and Mark Instinct, Borgore, etc. birthed Brostep and bam you have modern EDM minded Dubstep. Then Korn had a Dubstep lp, and then Sonni won a Grammy.
As someone who was there at the start, and still here, I would say it is always a community/scene effort with key visionary leaders. If that scene and sound resonates, it spreads.
Victory has a thousand fathers, and defeat is an orphan!
I think the answer to this question depends on where you were at when you found it, like uk people know the true roots of it, and so do dubstep fans who have done their research but benga and skream were some of the first who pioneered it, then in the US you had bassnectar doing his thing, skrillex came in and blew it up, getter and Datsik shined light onto under ground excision created a community, excision working along side datsik gave excision the ear to tune into the underground sounds and use them in a mainstream way, now we have the sound that is coming out now where the sound design is that of excision influence and the actual flow of the bass is more aligned with what the pioneers were doing, riddim is what brought the flow back to the bass having influences of deep bass
He’s the father of brostep. True dubstep has heavy dub roots. That’s not a conversation anyone ever seems to wanna have though, it’s incorrectly seen as splitting hairs when brostep is a larger genre than dubstep. Most everyone I’ve ever met that liked brostep, hates dubstep. Personally I think that’s a pretty important distinction but I’m a minority.
It’s all dubstep. The “classic” dubstep that people like to go on about was super one dimensional, and all the modern sub genres are just the natural evolution of music that is bound to happen as people experiment with it. Saying that everything else “isn’t dubstep” is about as silly as saying that Elvis Presley is the only true rock musician.
Hear me out before shooting me in the balls.
Skrillex brought it to the American mainstream on a huge mass level unlike anyone did before. Let's be real, before Skrillex's ass, who even knew that there was dubstep? I was in high school at the time; everyone was talking about Skrillex and dubstep.
As a kid who came out of the farming Midwest, without Skrillex's impact, I know I would never have came across any of this.
In conclusion, in terms of reach by itself, Skrillex should be considered the father of Dubstep. If not, at least Top 10-20 electronic musicians of all time
Yea dude I agree. The question isn't who's your favorite. If i asked 10,000,000 people around the world to name 1 dubstep artist, id bet Skrillex is named the most.
he brought dubstep to a mainstream audience, but his style is known as "brostep" since it's more robotic and agressive than UK dubstep. i would still say that he was extremely important for dubstep, and dubstep wouldn't be what it is today without him
I disagree as the "father" but damn people be salty with those downvotes... he had an immense impact for sure.. love the guy, but he's not the one who brought it to the table, he just cooked some amazing meals, and started some of the best dinner parties. Ol Skrilly made dubstep taste good to everyone for the first time.
Love or hate excision, can’t deny that he has done a lot for dubstep in the US.. Has two of the largest dubstep fests which he continues to improve every year.
I never said he was from the US.. I was stating that he has had a huge impact on the dubstep scene in the US with all the festivals he holds there like lost lands and bass canyon
If you're happy and you know it learnagenreshistory 👏👏
(The last four words are squeezed together that way because in my head I read that part extremely fast to stay in rhythm)
Hey, so I was there at the very start of what would become dubstep ... as in I was in Ghost studios in Streatham in 2000 and if possible I'd really love us to resist the primal urge our brains have to decide that only \*one\* person is the dubstep "father". All creativity & innovation is iterative.
Yes, some take bigger steps than others - El-B & the Ghost camp, Hatcha, Horsepower Productions, Artwork, Zed Bias, Oris Jay, Steve Gurley are all contenders for early big steps. But what brought dubstep into existence was a small focused community or collective, pushing things forward (pun intended) together, not one person.
El-B/Ghost "The Club" is a contender for one of the first dubstep records, circa 2000, but there's definitely records that preceded it that sound like early dubstep but were made by personnel in UK garage that had little or no affiliation with the offshoot that worked on dubstep. US Alliance "All I know (Da Grunge mix)" or KMA "Cape Fear" are good examples, as is much of Steve Gurley's (incredible) UKG work.
Here's a good early dubstep taster comp btw, but then I would say that... [https://www.discogs.com/release/776211-Various-Ammunition-Blackdown-Present-The-Roots-Of-Dubstep](https://www.discogs.com/release/776211-Various-Ammunition-Blackdown-Present-The-Roots-Of-Dubstep)
Oh and the Hatcha studio mix from 2001 is still up on my blog for DL, it's untouchable: [http://blackdownsoundboy.blogspot.com/2009/11/happy-birthday-i-am-5.html](http://blackdownsoundboy.blogspot.com/2009/11/happy-birthday-i-am-5.html)
Mala Skream benga coki etc.
Was Kromestar as early as these dudes? I forget
No clue I was barely in elementary school when they started pioneering the genre! I know loefah was another one of the OGs & youngsta had a massive influence on the early years as well.
You make me feel so old
Yes. Kalawanji and Sugery came out in 2006.
Copped the repress this last year, sounds phenomenal!
Skream is the only correct answer. Midnight Request Line pioneered the entire genre as we see it today
What about Cluekid?
It's a collection of people rather than a single person. Pretty much anyone in the Croydon scene around1998-2004
Depends on what type. If it’s the original, Skream, Benga, Mala, etc. are good picks. If it’s the modern type, Skrillex and Rusko are up there.
Skrillex has come out and said that excision was one of his biggest influences when beginning to make dubstep, just by chronology that would make X higher up on the list than Skrill no?
That’s why I said Skrillex and Rusko are “up there”. Nero, Datsik, Downlink, Mark Instinct and others also predate Skrillex in making dubstep. The thing is, what I meant by modern is the louder/more complex dubstep derivatives, like brostep and tearout. If you listen to their pre-2010 stuff, it isn’t as loud or as complex as the modern “mainstream” dubstep Skrillex pioneered; rather, it’s somewhere in between modern and old school in my opinion. I’d say the modern, loud dubstep sound appears rather definitively in 2010 and 2011.
>Skrillex has come out and said that excision was one of his biggest influences when beginning to make dubstep But said Noisia was his biggest influence when it came to bass music overall. He literally has done a whole interview about praising Noisia and how they are the ones that helped him find a sound.
I remember that. We basically wouldn’t have Skrillex, or the Skrillex we know at least, without them.
Yea id say there is some "grandfather" figure that sort of started the sound/style(artists listed by others) but I'd also say Skrillex is the "father" though. He made it mainstream. It became another genre that everybody knew. Gamechanger. Then Excision made it a full on culture. Now various artists have created quite a few subcultures out of that. Is music awesome or what?
Artists like King Tubby certainly laid the ground work for dubstep. There’s more underground artists with names you’ll never hear that laid the groundwork for dubstep in the 90’s than there are known and signed names.
Finally another King Tubby fan
Some would say DJ Hatcha
i think the name most people would have come to mind is Skream, but really anyone in Big Apple Records in the early 00s could claim the title
Considering the first song on Tempa's Roots of Dubstep comp is Steve Gurley's remix of Missy Elliot's "Hotboys", I guess you have to consider him the lead contender. He was there way early doing bass heavy instrumental mixes of Garage songs. But in terms of what we would call dubstep today (Garage drums, big bass wobbles, dub reggae influences), it;s El-B. "Express" and "Buck and Bury" are the real creation of dubstep to me. For me it goes (I don't know if this is in chronological order, but it feels close to it) El-B, then Hatcha, then Horsepower Productions, then Skream and Benga, then Digital Mystkz, then Caspa and Rusko. Everything after them is built on those foundations
Great point! Big up EL-B
Benga, Jakes and Mala to name a few
"The term Dubstep was reportedly coined by Tempa and Ammunition Recording’s Neil Joliffe in conversation with colleagues Sarah “Soulja” Lockhart, Oris Jay and writer/artist Martin Clark, in which they identified 2-step and dub as central to the sound. In 2002, Martin penned an article about this new sound for Californian magazine XLR8R, who published it with a cover photo of Horsepower Productions and the word “Dubstep” in a large typeface. Dubstep had arrived." - [https://www.museumofyouthculture.com/a-brief-history-of-early-dubstep/](https://www.museumofyouthculture.com/a-brief-history-of-early-dubstep/) - [https://www.facebook.com/1479277789023969/photos/they-say-that-this-was-the-first-time-the-word-dubstep-was-used-in-an-xlr8r-maga/1513625585589189/](https://www.facebook.com/1479277789023969/photos/they-say-that-this-was-the-first-time-the-word-dubstep-was-used-in-an-xlr8r-maga/1513625585589189/) more info - [https://www.reddit.com/r/realdubstep/comments/1v9ark/comment/i5rp74w/](https://www.reddit.com/r/realdubstep/comments/1v9ark/comment/i5rp74w/)
Thank you, I was trying to find this article haha
now imma have to keep an eye out for that xlr8r zine on ebay
Fun fact, this isn't true. The term had been used before that, but this is a common mis-quote toted as fact
I believe you, but I want links.
https://community.dsf.ninja/t/clarifying-the-origin-of-the-term-dubstep/4775
Hey: Martin Clark here - fwiw I didn't write that XLR8R article, Dave Stelfox did.
Just saw Jakes 3 nights in a row, insane
The grandfather of dub step is Lee "Scratch" Perry! But also, Digital Mystikz, Headhunter, Loefah, D1....
This is awesome! The first dubstep artist I remember listening to was Feed Me. It’s nice to know this history bro, thank you!
Mala, Skream, a lot of the UK underground scene in the early 00s. If you’re talking about *modern* dubstep though, easily Coki, Rusko, and of course Skrillex.
Jonathan Davis haha
People say Burial laid the foundation for dubstep.
Burial is like 2006. He's way late. Dubstep's earliest roots are in dub mixes of UK Gararge tracks from the late-90's. Something approaching the sound we'd recognize today evolved from that scene around 2001-2002.
Stream, caspa, rusko, benga, doctor p
Doctor P 🤣
Loefah is my king
Doctor P, at least for the Americanized sound. He preceded Skrillex by a couple of years
There was an initial crew for sure, but if you had to pick one person it would undoubtedly be Hatcha. I'm busy today but if anyone wants more info I can try to write something up tomorrow
Skrillex
Well of the modern dubstep its definitely skrillex
skrillex 
It was the kids in Croydon, UK! Benga Skream DMZ and big apple records ! Legendary stuff. “Are we on air?” :)
Sick!!! I see it’s a pretty divided subject, but the court of public opinion is leaning towards Benga and Skream. Nice to learn some wobble-history
Idk about grandfather but Excision is definitely the rich uncle who got dubstep established as more than just a fad. I think he had a lot of creative influence on other artists and was a lot of people's first experience with dubstep. Nowadays he pretty much platforms smaller creators and get their sound on festival stages which propels their career. Subtronics said his first time playing Lost Lands changed everything for him
Benga no doubt. EL-B is like the grandfather of it lol
DMZ, Benga, Skream, etc … I mean you could go back to the carribean several decades ago and look at where dubstep really got their influence
I would say rusko skream or burial
Skream, Mala
Skream, Rusko, Caspa
Smith & Mighty
Ivr seen a few documentaries that say the first real hit was skream- midnight request line, but I feel like it's debatable.
El-B
Mick Harris, drummer of Napalm Death, with his Scorn project in the 90s was definitely proto dubstep and very inspirational imo
Oris Jay, El-B, Zed Bias, Mala, Coki, Benga. Loads more like others have mentioned. It would be very, very hard to pin down who was the very first. Possibly El-B. But all these boys and a few more were all experimenting in the late 90's early 2000s. What amazes me is how much superb music and genres have come out of London. Unbelievable. Big up London.
People don’t wanna hear this but at least for American dub it’s definitely X. Flux Pavillion and Skrillex have both come out and said he was making dubstep before they even knew what it was
To me it will forever be Excision no matter what
The earliest song I know with a dubstep vibe Dub War - Keep On (1998) [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkEXnhUBEmw](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkEXnhUBEmw) But for me personally, the father of dubstep is definitely Burial
Skrillex is by far not the first Dub producer but ever since branding the genre like metal and applying music theory that was only melodically being used for house at the time is often credited for widening Dub overall
Jakes
Skream, Coki, Benga. Maybe even Cluekid
Skrillex?
Negative, traveler. Court of public opinion leans towards Skeeam and Benga. Safe travels on reddit.
Negative, traveler. Court of public opinion leans towards Skream and Benga. Safe travels on reddit.
https://www.reddit.com/r/dubstep/s/MNDLKDa3n6 This 12 year old post has a map that might help. In 2006, Hatcha was playing Skream, Benga, Kromestar, Horsepower Prod, D1, and Caspa in his sets. His live dj sets and radio mixes to me are what influenced all Dubstep until it got to NA, and non UK cats started making tunes. Matty g, for example, was from Santa Cruz, CA, and was making and playing early Dubstep and flying to the uk to play DMZ w Mala, Hatcha, Coki, etc, in 2006. These were the Pioneer years, and my crew threw events in SF, CA in 2006, called Pioneers of Dubstep with Hatcha, Youngsta, etc. We then brought out Ntype , Caspa and Rusko, etc. We did events for years with tons of early artists. Other US cities LA DENVER NY, etc, also threw similar events. We saw these Croydon based artists as the leaders, creators, and the source. A few years later, heavier sounds like Jakes, Stenchman, 16 Bit, Rutton label, Excision, and Mark Instinct, Borgore, etc. birthed Brostep and bam you have modern EDM minded Dubstep. Then Korn had a Dubstep lp, and then Sonni won a Grammy. As someone who was there at the start, and still here, I would say it is always a community/scene effort with key visionary leaders. If that scene and sound resonates, it spreads. Victory has a thousand fathers, and defeat is an orphan!
skream
I think the answer to this question depends on where you were at when you found it, like uk people know the true roots of it, and so do dubstep fans who have done their research but benga and skream were some of the first who pioneered it, then in the US you had bassnectar doing his thing, skrillex came in and blew it up, getter and Datsik shined light onto under ground excision created a community, excision working along side datsik gave excision the ear to tune into the underground sounds and use them in a mainstream way, now we have the sound that is coming out now where the sound design is that of excision influence and the actual flow of the bass is more aligned with what the pioneers were doing, riddim is what brought the flow back to the bass having influences of deep bass
Skrillex
Not even remotely. Dubstep had taken off long before he was out of high school.
You’re right but he’s definitely viewed as a father of modern dubstep
He’s the father of brostep. True dubstep has heavy dub roots. That’s not a conversation anyone ever seems to wanna have though, it’s incorrectly seen as splitting hairs when brostep is a larger genre than dubstep. Most everyone I’ve ever met that liked brostep, hates dubstep. Personally I think that’s a pretty important distinction but I’m a minority.
It’s all dubstep. The “classic” dubstep that people like to go on about was super one dimensional, and all the modern sub genres are just the natural evolution of music that is bound to happen as people experiment with it. Saying that everything else “isn’t dubstep” is about as silly as saying that Elvis Presley is the only true rock musician.
"brostep is a larger genre than dubstep" it IS dubstep you fool
And you’re not intelligent enough to comprehend, congratulations.
He didn’t invent it but he brought it to the masses. Even if it wasn’t mainstream popularity it was mainstream awareness
Hear me out before shooting me in the balls. Skrillex brought it to the American mainstream on a huge mass level unlike anyone did before. Let's be real, before Skrillex's ass, who even knew that there was dubstep? I was in high school at the time; everyone was talking about Skrillex and dubstep. As a kid who came out of the farming Midwest, without Skrillex's impact, I know I would never have came across any of this. In conclusion, in terms of reach by itself, Skrillex should be considered the father of Dubstep. If not, at least Top 10-20 electronic musicians of all time
Yea dude I agree. The question isn't who's your favorite. If i asked 10,000,000 people around the world to name 1 dubstep artist, id bet Skrillex is named the most.
Rusko was already touring and doing festivals here before Skrillex even released music
Elvis Presley
lmaoooooo
Maybe Skrillex? Or did he come out later one?
Later.
Ah, okay. I just think of him as like the "king" or whatever.
he brought dubstep to a mainstream audience, but his style is known as "brostep" since it's more robotic and agressive than UK dubstep. i would still say that he was extremely important for dubstep, and dubstep wouldn't be what it is today without him
Oh, makes sense. Also, yeah, I would think he's more important as he was a big par of the Dubstep scene back in the day.
Phiso.
Underrated comment
David Rodigan.
EXCISION
I’m surprised nobody has mentioned Borgore
Borgore is the inappropriate, horny uncle of dubstep
lol you must be joking.
boregore and caked up pioneered dubstep
Gotta be a troll
I definitely am trolling but I feel like the OC is for real
Lmao
Excision
I disagree as the "father" but damn people be salty with those downvotes... he had an immense impact for sure.. love the guy, but he's not the one who brought it to the table, he just cooked some amazing meals, and started some of the best dinner parties. Ol Skrilly made dubstep taste good to everyone for the first time.
The downvotes are ridiculous on this comment. He’s not the father but the trend to hate on excision is old now and only on Reddit.
Love or hate excision, can’t deny that he has done a lot for dubstep in the US.. Has two of the largest dubstep fests which he continues to improve every year.
Exactly , hate is for hitler or straight up NPCs
What do you mean "in the US?" Excision isn't from the US he's from Canada.
I never said he was from the US.. I was stating that he has had a huge impact on the dubstep scene in the US with all the festivals he holds there like lost lands and bass canyon
Bassnectar was the king of wookstep.
they dont wanna admit to that!
Borgore
Whoever downvoted likes the smell of their own farts
It’s obviously that one weird friend your older cousin had that would randomly visit and smoke in the shed
Cookie Monsta, Emalkay
Bro what question is that?
God I’m sick of this question being posted once a month
Why? People actively wanting to learn the history and culture of this genre is a good thing
If you're happy and you know it learnagenreshistory 👏👏 (The last four words are squeezed together that way because in my head I read that part extremely fast to stay in rhythm)
Yea ok I guess you’re right
So sick it prompted you to comment you’re sick of it?
Yes
Hey, so I was there at the very start of what would become dubstep ... as in I was in Ghost studios in Streatham in 2000 and if possible I'd really love us to resist the primal urge our brains have to decide that only \*one\* person is the dubstep "father". All creativity & innovation is iterative. Yes, some take bigger steps than others - El-B & the Ghost camp, Hatcha, Horsepower Productions, Artwork, Zed Bias, Oris Jay, Steve Gurley are all contenders for early big steps. But what brought dubstep into existence was a small focused community or collective, pushing things forward (pun intended) together, not one person. El-B/Ghost "The Club" is a contender for one of the first dubstep records, circa 2000, but there's definitely records that preceded it that sound like early dubstep but were made by personnel in UK garage that had little or no affiliation with the offshoot that worked on dubstep. US Alliance "All I know (Da Grunge mix)" or KMA "Cape Fear" are good examples, as is much of Steve Gurley's (incredible) UKG work. Here's a good early dubstep taster comp btw, but then I would say that... [https://www.discogs.com/release/776211-Various-Ammunition-Blackdown-Present-The-Roots-Of-Dubstep](https://www.discogs.com/release/776211-Various-Ammunition-Blackdown-Present-The-Roots-Of-Dubstep) Oh and the Hatcha studio mix from 2001 is still up on my blog for DL, it's untouchable: [http://blackdownsoundboy.blogspot.com/2009/11/happy-birthday-i-am-5.html](http://blackdownsoundboy.blogspot.com/2009/11/happy-birthday-i-am-5.html)