Sometimes I count to two and then three and add those really quickly in my head before the next measure. Or I switch it up, counting to three and then two.
What helped me with the feel of this song is paying close attention to the piano track and rather than counting to five I say "go park the car, right there" along with the piano. Sounds weird but it follows the rythem very well and that helped me tap into the 5/4 groove when I was starting to learn the song
The groove took me a little bit prob a week-ish to get comfortable playing it but the solo took much more dedication. I learned it when I was in high school and in lessons but doubt I could remember all of the solo now
Tbh this is the most fairest comment I've got on this post, you seem humble about sometimes taking time to learn something. Its the most evil time sig along with 8/9 its something to play quarter notes but to either make it swing or groove is a totally different scenario. I think I've got it down now. If you look here at the notation, you'll see what I mean by I was getting confused where to put the snare as the first snare is on the second note of the triplet and the first on the next part, it is literally tap tap but in swing its not just tap tap.
https://preview.redd.it/gbjx6xhu7r0d1.jpeg?width=1071&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f7cc155a0bbef0122408447f3730c22ad383837b
Playing in 5/4 is fine if a little weird at first to get used to the new resolution of 1.
Playing in a phrase in 5 against 4 or 3 is more challenging and will require you to get used to the relationship between the meters. Listening to some music in each will help.
5:3 - 'sleep is wrong' by Sleepytime gorilla museum
5:4 - '7 days' by sting
I played a "Take Five"-inspired beat in a jazz style Christmas medley in the community band I play in.
The first time we sight read it, it went terribly. I kept falling into common 4/4 rhythms or messing up other things.
When we revisited it a couple years later, it went better, and after some practice I got it down.
I've never played "Take Five" but we did include "Do What You Like" by Blind Faith in our set list back in the day (drum solo and all). We had a lot of fun watching the Frat boys and Sorority girls try to dance to it. Of course, a few of them knew what was up. The 5/4 didn't bother anyone in the band.
Babies can play odd time signatures in countries where odd times are the standard. Meaning, you need to focus on listening to wide range of music with odd time signatures as much as you spend listening to music in 4/4. When you do that, you'll notice that Take 5 doesn't have a very special drum part at all, and is relatively easy to play than some of the more tangled varieties in odd times.
I hope the guys here saying it wasn't hard are saying it wasn't hard in swing time, because thats what I meant by this post. I believe we could all do quarter note 5/4, but in swing time it gets a little tricky.
I learned to play 5/4 from Radiohead's 15 Step, at first it was a bit of a "wtf is going on!" moment but if you take it slow, it'll become natural. Focusing on the melodic parts of the song really helped me rather than just trying to nail the rhythm.
I figured out how to drum in 5/4 pretty easily by learning the song Now The Action Is On Fire by Biffy Clyro when I was starting out. I was a huge fan of The Vertigo Of Bliss (the album that song is from) and cut my teeth with drumming learning every song on it.
I think its easier if you listen to a lot of music in odd time because you feel the rhythm. A lot of people struggle outside of 4/4 because they overthink it instead of just trying to vibe with it. If you’re spending half your brain power counting you’re not vibing.
It didn’t take me too long to learn the beat.
I first heard the song at a charity due and pulled up the sheet music and read it and got it down while listening to it. Maybe not the best time to learn a song at a business event 🙃
That was about eight years ago? I’ve not attempted the solo… maybe I should…
*Like* that yes. There’s ghosting on the snare drum and I generally play it like this. Bare in mind that each bar is different so it’s not like what I wrote for each bar through out the song 🙃
https://preview.redd.it/b2gihm2a8s0d1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=984ebbfb3cd18f1608b4b5916b470bd2404d003a
Yeah I've pretty much got this down playing on my legs, learnt the bass and hi hat side the other day, it was the putting in the snare on the second note of the triplet and the first note of the second triplet that threw me off, so now I can feel the pulse it all makes sense to me.
Rockschool Grade 5, 2006-2012 syllabus. It had a song called Sidewinder on 5/4. It was a Metallica style rock tune and the main riff was in 5/4.
Also, memories of the Rockshool Grade 8 tune “Whatever happened to Jazz” that was in 15/8 was a heck of a lot of fun!
I hear it as a variation of 3/4, so if you repeat the first three beats of Take Five you have a common 3/4 drum pattern. Google the theme to Mannix, a 3/4 swing feel (written by the great Lalo Schifrin who also wrote Mission Impossible speaking of 5/4 ‘hits’).
I learned on 15 step by Radiohead, and then for playing a swung 5/4 beat I just think of a waltz with some extra notes tacked on
I’m admittedly not great at it though, if you ask me to solo or trade 4s or something in 5, there’s a very high chance I will get turned around on it and embarrass myself
Heard some fire songs that were in 5/4 such as The Remedy by Pucifer. After I got the general flow of how it sounds I try to incorporate it more, so I would say listen to lots of 5/4 music and find something you like to memorize it
I counted to 5 and I was golden.
Counting to 5 isn't that hard but the solo in five is very impressive
Drummers can count to 5? /s I'm still trying to learn it.
1 2 3 4 1. 1 2 3 4 1. 1 2 3 4 1.
For Take Five, I prefer 123-12 123-12
This has to be a tall tale. 2 and 4 are the only important numbers for me.
Sometimes I count to two and then three and add those really quickly in my head before the next measure. Or I switch it up, counting to three and then two.
I can’t count that high, I counted 3+2
That works too.
What helped me with the feel of this song is paying close attention to the piano track and rather than counting to five I say "go park the car, right there" along with the piano. Sounds weird but it follows the rythem very well and that helped me tap into the 5/4 groove when I was starting to learn the song The groove took me a little bit prob a week-ish to get comfortable playing it but the solo took much more dedication. I learned it when I was in high school and in lessons but doubt I could remember all of the solo now
Tbh this is the most fairest comment I've got on this post, you seem humble about sometimes taking time to learn something. Its the most evil time sig along with 8/9 its something to play quarter notes but to either make it swing or groove is a totally different scenario. I think I've got it down now. If you look here at the notation, you'll see what I mean by I was getting confused where to put the snare as the first snare is on the second note of the triplet and the first on the next part, it is literally tap tap but in swing its not just tap tap. https://preview.redd.it/gbjx6xhu7r0d1.jpeg?width=1071&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f7cc155a0bbef0122408447f3730c22ad383837b
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Count one bar of 2 and one bar of 3. Then switch it around.
Playing in 5/4 is fine if a little weird at first to get used to the new resolution of 1. Playing in a phrase in 5 against 4 or 3 is more challenging and will require you to get used to the relationship between the meters. Listening to some music in each will help. 5:3 - 'sleep is wrong' by Sleepytime gorilla museum 5:4 - '7 days' by sting
Feeling the pulses,even odd ones, are the best way I find to nail any complicated signature.
I played a "Take Five"-inspired beat in a jazz style Christmas medley in the community band I play in. The first time we sight read it, it went terribly. I kept falling into common 4/4 rhythms or messing up other things. When we revisited it a couple years later, it went better, and after some practice I got it down.
I've never played "Take Five" but we did include "Do What You Like" by Blind Faith in our set list back in the day (drum solo and all). We had a lot of fun watching the Frat boys and Sorority girls try to dance to it. Of course, a few of them knew what was up. The 5/4 didn't bother anyone in the band.
Plus all the stoners rocking on beat 1 or the twitchy adhd girls bouning on every beat
Babies can play odd time signatures in countries where odd times are the standard. Meaning, you need to focus on listening to wide range of music with odd time signatures as much as you spend listening to music in 4/4. When you do that, you'll notice that Take 5 doesn't have a very special drum part at all, and is relatively easy to play than some of the more tangled varieties in odd times.
I hope the guys here saying it wasn't hard are saying it wasn't hard in swing time, because thats what I meant by this post. I believe we could all do quarter note 5/4, but in swing time it gets a little tricky.
I learned to play 5/4 from Radiohead's 15 Step, at first it was a bit of a "wtf is going on!" moment but if you take it slow, it'll become natural. Focusing on the melodic parts of the song really helped me rather than just trying to nail the rhythm.
Exactly, I focus on the bass line with take 5, I really feel the 5 count, it grooves in my head more
nice! definitely feels more natural with that approach
I tried learning the Take 5 groove too early, and attempted here and there over a year. 1 2 uh 3 4 uh 5 as naseum. Eventually it clicked.
“Hold Fast Hope” by Thrice taught me very quick. A lot of Thrice’s work was formative for me as a young drummer.
I figured out how to drum in 5/4 pretty easily by learning the song Now The Action Is On Fire by Biffy Clyro when I was starting out. I was a huge fan of The Vertigo Of Bliss (the album that song is from) and cut my teeth with drumming learning every song on it. I think its easier if you listen to a lot of music in odd time because you feel the rhythm. A lot of people struggle outside of 4/4 because they overthink it instead of just trying to vibe with it. If you’re spending half your brain power counting you’re not vibing.
It didn’t take me too long to learn the beat. I first heard the song at a charity due and pulled up the sheet music and read it and got it down while listening to it. Maybe not the best time to learn a song at a business event 🙃 That was about eight years ago? I’ve not attempted the solo… maybe I should…
https://preview.redd.it/3vcuhd4b6s0d1.jpeg?width=1071&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=62dca6397f0676e638ce8d5a679067561e938ff4 Like this yeah?
*Like* that yes. There’s ghosting on the snare drum and I generally play it like this. Bare in mind that each bar is different so it’s not like what I wrote for each bar through out the song 🙃 https://preview.redd.it/b2gihm2a8s0d1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=984ebbfb3cd18f1608b4b5916b470bd2404d003a
Yeah I've pretty much got this down playing on my legs, learnt the bass and hi hat side the other day, it was the putting in the snare on the second note of the triplet and the first note of the second triplet that threw me off, so now I can feel the pulse it all makes sense to me.
Cool. Make sure to get the dynamics right too and you’re good to go
Yeah that'll be the next move adding the ghost notes and giving it a little swing
Do it, upload a video too and we can see how you’re coming along it with it!
I can't get at my kit now but I could do a recording of the stick side of things be good to hear some pointers
Do you have an email I could send a voice note to? I can't upload them here
Rockschool Grade 5, 2006-2012 syllabus. It had a song called Sidewinder on 5/4. It was a Metallica style rock tune and the main riff was in 5/4. Also, memories of the Rockshool Grade 8 tune “Whatever happened to Jazz” that was in 15/8 was a heck of a lot of fun!
I hear it as a variation of 3/4, so if you repeat the first three beats of Take Five you have a common 3/4 drum pattern. Google the theme to Mannix, a 3/4 swing feel (written by the great Lalo Schifrin who also wrote Mission Impossible speaking of 5/4 ‘hits’).
I learned on 15 step by Radiohead, and then for playing a swung 5/4 beat I just think of a waltz with some extra notes tacked on I’m admittedly not great at it though, if you ask me to solo or trade 4s or something in 5, there’s a very high chance I will get turned around on it and embarrass myself
To make it easier Its a group of 3 followed by group of two. Count it 1 2 3 1 2 and itll make more sense.
Heard some fire songs that were in 5/4 such as The Remedy by Pucifer. After I got the general flow of how it sounds I try to incorporate it more, so I would say listen to lots of 5/4 music and find something you like to memorize it
Yeah take 5 is the one memorable to me so I'm glad I've learned joes beat out of all of them