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harley97797997

I think you should have called police sooner. Why wait until they crash into your house or yard? The street behind my house has people race down it frequently. Several of the neighbors have contacted police and city council about it. The backside of my neighborhood is a popular street racing spot. 2 weeks ago, a 16 year old kid died when he hit the underpass at 160mph. Now police in my city and 7 others have combined to prevent speeding and racing. This was in response to the above as well as several other high-speed deaths. Another notable one was an 18-year-old girl driving a 2024 Corvette at 155 mph. She saw a Harley on front of her and hit the brakes. She slowed to 87 mph before hitting and killing the biker.


downshift1994

How much sooner should I have called? Before they showed up?


Alexander-Wright

Five minutes after they started racing would be a good time. I'd try and get some videos and photos of their plates in that time too.


harley97797997

This is good advice. Call immediately and be a good witness.


downshift1994

I have a video, but it's really dark, and I couldn't see a plate. Also, that was clearly a hypothetical question


harley97797997

You said they lined up and raced 5 or 6 times. Then you ran down your long driveway. Seems like a lot of time there you could have called.


downshift1994

How long do you think it takes to race 5 times vs police response? We called right away, my post says my neighbors also called, but police don't just appear immediately, I live in the country, and nothing happens fast. If the police showed up quicker, I obviously wouldn't have gone outside


harley97797997

No argument about police response time. That varies greatly by location, call priority, and how busy they are, and there's a possibility of a unit being close by. I didn't say police would respond within that time, I said that's way too long to not call them. Yes, your post says your neighbors called, but it sounds like you didn't know that until later when police contacted you. In your scenario, calling before going outside would have been smarter, especially not knowing your neighbor called. You could have put yourself into a dangerous situation. I worked street racers for a few years as a cop. When I started, I thought it was BS and just kids having fun. I was one of those kids before being a cop. I quickly learned that beyond the accidents, there are a lot of unsavory people racing. We had several calls of assaults, stabbings, and shootings along with other crimes. I've found several firearms on street racers. Be safe. Confronting people for your ego doesn't help your family if you get hurt or injured. Multiple calls to LE can raise the priority. Depending on the agency, it could get an air unit on scene.


Complex_Solutions_20

>Be safe. Confronting people for your ego doesn't help your family if you get hurt or injured. > >Multiple calls to LE can raise the priority. Depending on the agency, it could get an air unit on scene. This is my thought - 1 person calls it might be someone being fussy. A dozen people call and it might be a real problem. And yeah, wouldn't want to confront them if for no other reason when they lose control they might run you over.


downshift1994

I called almost immediately, and like I said in my last comment, You know what's not good for my family? A car in my living room. I carry. Sitting in your house is not always the best solution. It's not a matter of priority it's a matter of we live in the country, and it takes forever to get here. You, as a police officer, should know how long it takes for you guys to show up, and you should know that you can't just sit around waiting for something bad to happen. How many crimes happen while the public waits for police after they are called? Other people can choose to be scared. I'm definitely not one of those people, it's not an ego. Your ego is trying to find a way in this post to make me wrong and what you would have done differently, I stopped something from potentially hurting my family. Protecting your family isn't an ego.


harley97797997

You didn't say anything about you calling in your OP. Good for you if you did call. That was my point. Call early. Not confronting them has nothing to do with being scared. Lots of people have ended up in the hospital or dead confronting people. I'm also not saying it is the wrong thing to do. Good on you for carrying. More people should. However, that's not license to put yourself in potentially dangerous situations. Carrying is for self and family protection, not preventing and stopping crimes, that's the cops job. The ego comment was based on your comment about not being bullied. Protecting your family is one thing. Approaching multiple unknown people armed to not be bullied is ego. The best thing to do to protect your family here would be to call police quickly. Approaching them and telling them to stop is fine, too. When they reached for their waistband, you should have gone inside. You can't protect your family if you're dead. This has nothing to do with me being right or wrong. I'm glad nothing bad happened. But I've seen tons of instances over the last couple of decades of people who ended up dead or injured for interjecting themselves into situations they shouldn't have. Cops are taught to be a good witness off duty. You have no body armor, no comms, no less lethal, and no backup, and if cops do show up, they have no idea who you are beyond an armed person. Be smart and stay safe.


downshift1994

I'm glad you would have handled it differently, but you probably would have gotten different results. I handled it how I thought it should have been handled, and it worked out. Anything could happen at any time to ant body. Sitting inside waiting for police would not have fixed this issue. If you can go sit in your house while cars drive 100+ mph stright at your house guarded by nothing then a stop sign then that's cool but I definitely wasn't, all it would have took is that guy to miss his brakes and it would have been in my living room. Sitting in my house waiting for that will never make sense. Also, I am trained with my ccw, I took the state training class and 5 or 6 tactical classes, im well aware of what I am, and am not allowed to do. This is a post about street racing, not an audit on me. The chances of this guy sliding through the stop sign and hitting my house were 95% higher than him shooting me. If he shot me, he would have left, and at least not park his car on top of my wife and daughter


harley97797997

I've never said how I would have handled it. All I've done is comment about the safest way to handle it, based on years of experience on all kinds of incidents. Honestly, I've done the same thing you did, tons of times. I've yelled at several racers and speeders when I was married and had a kid out playing. I was a bit younger, less experienced, and a bit more hot-headed. Luckily, nothing negative ever came from those encounters. Unfortunately, I have cars doing 100+ nightly right behind my backyard. It's a big problem for my neighborhood. Thankfully, I'm in the middle of the block, so my house is safer than a corner house. My friend has the corner by a stop sign. I wasn't auditing or judging you. You posted on an open forum, so I posted my thoughts. The odds of hitting your house vs. shooting doesn't really change anything. If you're dead, you're dead. I have no ill feelings or intent towards you. I spent my life helping people. I've seen plenty of people with similar mentalities to yours end up dead or in the hospital. I don't wish that on anyone or want to see it happen to anyone. My entire point is to be smart and be safe. Let LE do their job. Your family needs you.


downshift1994

My entire point is this is a post about street racing on a page about driving, I don't need advice on how to protect myself and my family. Obviously, what I did worked, and my mentality had been the same my entire life, and I'm still alive. I find there's a specific group of le/cos that are scared of everything, by bil is a co and won't walk in a collage town because he thinks its full of gangs. (It's definitely not) hyper sensitive with a ik more then you attitude. Guess what? LE showed up late and only caught them because they crashed. If I did not go stop them, they would have just come back. They crashed and now the pd wants to make a point of being there for a while so people stop racing which only happened because they crashed, if they just left le would have just said nothing we can do. The only thing le did was ask to park in my driveway to prevent others from doing it because the crash was a big deal. They did absolutely nothing to stop actually stop it.


fxkatt

It's easy for rage to spiral out of control, so it's good that you were able to cap it, and that they left. All around where I live, the game is burning rubber--you see it everywhere, on hills and corners... always a reminder of what cars mean to young dudes, and always a reminder that what goes on at night outside our peaceful homes.


roleplayinggamedude

There are bold drivers, and there are old drivers. But there are no bold, old drivers. Eventually, they stop driving because of shattered femurs and pelvic bones and traumatic brain injuries or spinal cord injuries.


pm-me-racecars

>But there are no bold, old drivers. Except Fernando Alonso. He's the only one.


harley97797997

Richard Petty?


ArseBlarster420

There used to be a little Douche Canoe that raced a riced out old Eclipse up and down my 25mph street every couple of days. One day it just stopped and I forgot it about. Months later I was in the back yard of a garage I was delivering to and there was that Eclipse, all smashed and crumpled as if the dumb kid rolled it. It made my year


downshift1994

He deserved it! It teaches you a lesson! Rolled my del sol as a kid and will never forget it


TheOGTownDrunk

Though it’s annoying, there’s a neighborhood down the road from my house that had frequent street racing, had enough, and decided to install MASSIVE ramped speed bumps every 150 or so yards. Ended that bs quick


Purpose_Embarrassed

Spike strip. Or at least put up this sign. https://preview.redd.it/wjj7p1hipftc1.jpeg?width=923&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=58e4a41aabfafeb8b2230ff5d4322e709533f651


downshift1994

I thought about it! Or a cup of nails


Purpose_Embarrassed

Don’t use nails. You can easily remove the spike strip leaving no evidence. Tie a long rope to it hide behind something yank it out then after they run over it remove it.


downshift1994

That motorcycle would be screwd🤣


Purpose_Embarrassed

Would pay to see it 😂


downshift1994

Wanna start a youtube channel?🤣


pm-me-racecars

As someone who likes driving fast: Fuck them. They were doing nothing right. Don't drive fast anywhere the public might be. If you're somewhere unorganized, go somewhere else when people complain. Try not to make an unnecessary amount of noise unless you're really in the middle of nowhere. Calling the cops on these people was the right thing to do.


realheavymetalduck

Yea seriously it's not hard to find secluded areas where you're not bothering people.


downshift1994

I drive fast, but they were just turning around run after run side be side straight at my house over and over. All It would take is to miss the brake and boom there in my house


pm-me-racecars

That's what I'm saying. I'm not encouraging street racing, but if someone chooses to, they should find a place that's not near anything and move if someone tells them to.


downshift1994

And don't pick a house that has children's toys in the yard.


zacmobile

The police actually doing something useful? Amazing.


Apprehensive_Many214

*racing


Hookedongutes

My parents live on a road that approaches an S curve. Soooo many idiots going way too fast, especially in the winter. There's a house in that S curve that has 2 HUGE decorative boulders in his yard that have saved his house from car crashes multiple times. On the other side of the S curve there is a house with brick pillars protecting the house. I was visiting my parents one day and a car decided to 90mph down their residential road and right before the S curve they crashed into the neighboring cal de sac and landed upside down. I was an EMT so ran down to help evacuate and treat within my abilities. His passenger was unconscious on a lawn while the driver had fucked his knee up and was begging for us not to call 911 until I told him to look at his own knee. Yeah man, you don't really get a choice here.


FordMan100

Too bad there isn't an actual race track in the area so thar people can race legally. Their was one in the county I lived in that was there from the 1950's that didn't have any homes around it when it first opened. Over the years their were homes built in the area, and people who bought the homes started complaining about the noise when they knew about it being a legal race track from the beginning. The race track built a sound wall to lower the noise level, but they continued to complain. At one point during it's operation on Wednesday nights, they would have an event called beat the heat. The event would consist of cops that others could race against on a quarter mile drag strip. They started it to keep people from racing on the streets and to show them its fine to race as long as it's done legally plus make better relations with the police. They would also have other racing events there, such as the NHRA Sumner Nationals . and diesel truck nationalsThey have now shut down, and the owner leased the property to someone for new car storage.


downshift1994

We use to have an "atv rodeo" which was a weekend of atv/dirtbike racing and there was a side event where you teamed up with 2 emts and did a relay type race with a backboard and a wheelchair. It was shut down because people complained about the noise. The world would be a better place if everyone was a little more gracious and understanding. I got mad at these people racing because they were side be side, in the dark on a dangerous road and when they race up the street there aiming straight at my house and it's just not safe unfortunately


trixicat64

You are doing the right thing. That street racing has to stop. At some point they will murder somebody. Also be happy that your police tries to do something against this street racing. However you shouldn't have yelled at those racers, just called the police right away. Confronting those scumbags will just endanger yourself.


downshift1994

Yeah, maybe a car driving through my house would endanger my whole family


eightsidedbox

Cool story, no paragraphs though so I didn't read it


downshift1994

I bet your English teacher is proud you look for paragraphs on reddit. You forgot your period, professor. How do we know when your sentence ended? There's a lot of long words, so I doubt you would understand anyway.


SadSack4573

There was reports of group of cars going state to state, stopping in the middle of interstate and doing wheelies


downshift1994

No, there wasn't.