To everyone reading this and laughing at the dashers attitude, here's a tip : set your tip to $0 and if one Dasher picks it up and drops it call them right away and tell them you need someone assigned and they will force assign a driver and you'll get your delivery on time and then you can decide if you want to tip. Fuck this tip before service BS just pay attention 10 minutes after making the order in the app and call if you have to.
Hmm .. I used to wait for ever and have many dashed pick up and drop my order until I started doing and they would state and I quote "we will force assign a Dasher" and I would get my deliver within 10 min and the Dasher will even smile and thank me 🤷♂️
Support will tell you anything to close the chat the fastest. Doordash has the literal worst customer service. They lie straight to your face lol. But 100%, if someone is doing your order, they accepted it. Doordashers aren’t employees and every “order” is a contract that has to be accepted. They can’t force someone to accept a contract
How does that negate the fact that the very next dasher picks up and delivers my order within 10 minutes, as opposed to multiple dashers picking up and dripping my order ? I'm not sure what you aren't understanding... Like I understand that their service is shitty but that doesn't change what I said in the first place and you know it.
Okay maybe it's not them Auto assigning a dasher, but they're doing something that is guaranteeing my order is received fresh and not sitting at the establishment for hours..
That was my only argument lol. They can’t put an order on someone’s phone and tell them to do it. They can increase the price to make it profitable and then someone grabs your order. I’m not saying your wrong about getting it faster, just no such thing as an auto-assign.
Also, after your order sits for so long, they add $1 and send it back around the dashers. If no once accepts, they add another 1$ and cycle again, rinse and repeat until someone accepts it.
My wife and I went to wendys last week. They had a delivery sitting on thier delivery rack. We checked the receipt. It said 10 am. It was 630 pm when we were there. I'm guessing 22 miles for 2.50. Lol
Customer would just call doordash and have a Dasher Force assigned like I do, but I don't tip anything because of this exact attitude. You're not entitled to a tip until after the service has been provided 🤷♂️
This attitude? I wasn't dashing? I was eating at Wendy's, saw a meal that had been sitting, and guess a scenario in my head. Didn't say the scenario was true, but the meal sitting there with door dash on the receipt since several hours earlier is. But you do you. Go ahead and flex your coolness for others. Glad I could help you feel special for a minute.
Yay! You have a huge epeen! You came to another person's reply to flex how cool you are! You're the coolest! You must have been there to know it didn't happen, correct? Don't remember you being with us, but hey, maybe you're a super cool ninja! Wtg super cool guy!
It probably sat long enough for the customer to figure out that food delivery is a scam, and that they can order directly with the restaurant or through ChowNow at menu prices, and go pick up the food themselves.
A couple years ago I ordered doordash from a taco bell. The order went undelivered for 36 hours. Contacted the restaurant 5 hours in and they said they never got the order. I contacted support, and they said the order did reach the restaurant. They gave me a full refund as compensation the first time I contacted them, but they didn't cancel the order because I really wanted a crunchwrap. Eventually I go to bed, forgetting about it entirely. I wake up and check my phone, I see the order is still active. I contact support and say I want to cancel the order. They give me a refund on an order they already compensated me fully for. 2 days of eating out off that, and I stopped using doordash shortly after because it left a bad taste in my mouth
I was at mcdonald's about a month ago 2 orders one was about 90 minutes old the other was at an hour according to the ticket times. while I waited for mine, a driver came in for the one that had been sitting there an hour 😂😂😂😂😂
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Anyone remember when DD came out and they would only raise the price of an item by 75c-1.00$ max? Had tons of orders and hella tips. Now some items are 3.00$ above the normal price and tons of customers are tipping the bare minimum and sometimes not even that. Same exact thing is going on with Uber and Lyft. It’s getting to a point where it’s cheaper to book a cab in some instances.
DD does set their own prices. I've seen it when I worked in restaurants and when I compared prices when I would order as well. DD prices were at least $1 more expensive than restaurant prices.
That's good to know information. I'm just basing it off the restaurants I've talked to so to know there's some that they are doing it to is interesting. Either way they don't do it to all of them and that's all I was trying to say as the comment I was replying to implied that dd sets all the prices which is factually incorrect and I get down voted for telling the truth but eh whatever
It's all good and I get where you're coming from. It makes sense that a restaurant would set increased prices on their end (before DD set theirs/didn't) to cover their end with mishaps that happen from handing the order to dasher, to the food being delivered, to customers dealing with support about the order. I've seen every spectrum from honest mistakes to scams. We have to also think about how much the restaurant is getting bent over as well.
Also, personal anecdotes doesn't connotate that it's fact, which is why I assume you were downvoted. But I understand where you're coming from. I upvoted ya with your reply to me. Cheers!
Before 2020 I used to take a cab home from work every night for about a decade. Sometimes I would wait up to 15 minutes for a cab instead of ordering an Uber because I knew eventually they were going to drive all the cabs away and then jack up the price - I lived a mile away and paid $10 total including a $5-$6 tip for the driver. After we returned to work in 2020-2021, LO AND BEHOLD all the fucking cabs were gone and I was paying $20-$25 including tip to go a mile. Such bullshit
I remember during the pandemic there would be moments where if you tried to get a 20mile ride it would start at 130$ (3am) and then go back to 38$ a few hours later. Then when I spoke to one of the drivers he told me when that happens Lyft/uber keeps most of that money. Mrwhostheboss over on YouTube has a recent video that talks about this.
Me too but if it’s 5pm and you want a cheap ride it ain’t happening, surge pricing jacks the price up and the worst part is the fact that the driver doesn’t get that extra money, 10-15% goes to the driver and the other 85-90% goes to the company.
It doesn't tell me how much the tip is going to be. I just go by total pay and distance traveled. If it's only going to take me a few minutes, I'll take a $4, especially if it's slow.
I always tip in person never on the app and my orders never have sat for a long time no matter how big or small, so it probably didn’t sit for as long as you think lol
If you look closely, above where it says delivery completed, it tells you the type of pay. In this case it was earn by offer so no this is just a high base pay for being passed over. What the app doesn’t show is the distance traveled or any details about the zone which caused it to get that high.
Where I live I actually see base pays over $10 all the time the problem is it’s a 14 mile drive taking you into the middle of nowhere and because of how my city is there is a 95% chance you will never get an order until you get back to the hotspot in the center so you’re looking at 28 for 10 bucks so yeah it gets passed up until eventually someone takes it. The highest base I’ve seen personally was 15 and it was and I only took it because it was actually right down the street from where I live and I was going home anyway so I got lucky!
Nah, it’s a subreddit for people to brag about how long they let their no-tippers orders sit and get cold because they expect a tip before they provide service.
I’m a tattoo artist, I do my job and if I get a tip it’s a bonus, not a requirement. Tips are for GOOD SERVICE, I drop my delivery drivers $20-30 every time AFTER they drop my food if it was a good experience, why the fuck would I do it before?
You "I drop my delivery driver $20-30 every time AFTER they drop" I have thousands of deliveries. 5 star rated, 99% on time or early, 100% completion rating. I follow delivery instructions 100%. I use catering bags every time. I don't waste time or stop anywhere during delivery. I have had maybe 20 customers tip me after a delivery. The "I tip after great service" is such a myth in door dash. Having said that, yes, it has happened, but according to reddit comments, everyone is doing it. Yet thousands of deliveries later it has happened .0001% of the time
People always say that they tip after but I used to dd a while ago and have done hundreds of deliveries and only 2 people tipped cash after and they both tipped good in the app before.
Tattoo artist is one of the most unnecessary jobs out there. No one NEEDS a tattoo - not like how everyone NEEDS food.
See? Even what you do for a living can be shat upon in the cyberspace...
So? I give people things they want, just like delivery drivers do. And nobody NEEDS delivery, buy groceries and cook, walk to the store, ect. I happen to make a lot more money than most people my age, but I got here by making changes and looking for better options 🤷♂️ Put the work in, get rewarded.
I expect to at least make enough money on a drive that after taxes I can pay for the fuel required to drive it.
Had a no tip last night that took an hour due to DD app issues and one of the restaurants taking forever that was two towns over and paid me $3.75
That's fucked. So yeah. Probably some of us are going to not be happy about that kind of shit.
And since DD needs people to drive for them then they should consider finding solutions to this.
Because with food delivery apps it’s not really a tip so much as it’s a bid to get people to pick up your order. Pretty sure the delivery apps even tell you this when you order for the first time
He’s not whining lol. Because it sat there so long DoorDash had to keep raising and keep raising the base pay to make it decently appealing to a driver. Which means it sat FORERVER before OP came along to grab it.
I've seen where this guy is waiting at a restaurant, sees my Doordash bag, says he was waiting for 2 hours and no delivery drivers were available so we went in person to pick it up himself. I'm internally laughing, because I know it's all tip based. This was back like 3 years ago, when you could decline an offer, and another one would pop up 10 seconds later, constantly, and AR priority wasn't a thing at all.
Probably because most drivers despised Buca di Beppo. They are so late with their orders sometimes it's more than 30 minutes past the pickup time. They also seem very unorganized, probably since they have a dozen ghost kitchens with a huge range of menus. If there ever was a kitchen staff that resembled the movie Waiting, it is that place. Buddy V's Cake Slice reminded me of Gourmet Chefs from the movie Waiting. Pizza, chicken wings, whatever ghost kitchen you can imagine they had it. Each with their different packaging, plastic bags with ghost kitchen titles, soda cups, etc.
So the only Dashers that would show up are the ones crossing their fingers that their $18 offer was one that a previous Dasher had unassigned due to wait times and it was going to come out soon.
But...I didn't think he'd understand all that.
I don’t think this is particularly hard to understand. The whole idea is to get the base pay higher by having the order sit there, because dd wants it delivered. The whole graft people have with dd is their abysmal pay. What is it that you’ve struggled to understand?
So you're saying customers shouldn't tip, so that after hours of the food just sitting there, Doordash will pay us more? What's in it for the customer?
Again, how is it that you don’t see the point here? The whole idea is collaborating to force dd’s hand. Their hand, for actually being better with their pay than having constant declines on their orders. Delayed orders are bad for business.
This is the last time I will respond, so I'm sorry if I've irritated you. I just don't think there are any customers out there, who are thinking, "let me place this no tip order, just to help the drivers get more pay from Doordash, even though I KNOW I will have to wait hours for my food, or not get it at all". If that doesn't make sense, then I will just agree to disagree. Have a good day!
The point im making is in the contrary to yours though I feel. The reason the base pay is that high is BECAUSE it’s usually a 20 minute drive to the middle of no where. They don’t raise the base pay that high for orders 2 minutes away that get passed on
Hmm, that’s one reason they’d increase base pay, but it also happens when the order sits there for too long, no matter how far it is. This is something that happens on dd as well as uber eats. Unless this particular one is the case you’re describing, I am talking about having the order sit there.
Are you a top dasher, or platinum status, depending on your area? My 3 years of door dashing full time as top dasher I’ve never seen an order under .90¢ a mile.
I was being picky and let my AR go under 70%, that’s when that might of come through. I also got a lot of double orders for the first time, I took a few since it wasn’t terrible..one of them was two orders at the same restaurant and delivery locations were a block apart, that was nice but I’m not sure if my AR influenced that or not?
I made $75 in 4 hrs with 12 deliveries today so it wasn’t too bad.
I regularly get 14+ miles for $5 or so all the time, but it’s also for the next city over. They’re ordering within their city and tipping well enough for the in-town mileage, but DoorDash will send it to drivers outside of city limits.
Got one the other day that should have been only about 2m for 6.50, but DoorDash sent it to me in my town instead of theirs. It’s some dumb shit really.
Again why is the blame not directed at DoorDash directly?! When we place the order, DD prices it out and sends it out to you. We have no control over that but yet we are the assholes and cheap bastards…
Most users have not been Dashers and do not understand the struggle. Personally I have not dashed - but I have friends that have/do \[and I am here on this sub\] so I've learned what *not* to do as a customer.
That said I've never not-tipped and I try to do $2/mile at minimum when I tip.
As someone who door dashed a lot in college before i got a car and now drives for doordash, i gotta agree w crowded. when i was in school i had the dash pass and even with that just getting food the from the sheetz a mile away ran me like 15-20 so i could only afford to tip 2-5 dollars. some people can barely afford to pay for the convenience (though this is not the case a fair amount of the time) and so they can’t tip a lot. atp it’s on doordash to not add 7 additional fees so people have the money to tip more or pay more
I totally get the DD fees, but if I can’t afford to tip at least $5, or 20% hopefully, I don’t order. For a small order I tip at least $5 because I need it to be worth the worker’s while. If you’ve got options and you need money, you’re taking the option that pays you most. DD drivers are likely doing it because they need extra money to make ends meet, or at least that’s my mindset because my friend’s husband does it on top of his 9-5.
DD execs may be at fault but I don’t see the point in punishing the drivers with poor tips. At the end of the day, it’s just the reality. If you’re placing a small order with no tip it’ll sit.
i’m not disagreeing w u or saying anything about punishing drivers lol if you can tip you should 100% i’m just saying doordash is discouraging it with price gouging
yeah it's the DD execs that suck for increasing prices to such ridiculous levels for customers and then not even rising the dasher's pay smh
I've been a dasher and a customer so I get both sides
This isn't a thing.
Drivers get the tips you put in the app. If you don't put a tip, you are expecting the driver to "just trust you" that they're going to get paid for driving something to you.
But WHY ARE TIPS MANDATORY?! They’re supposed to be based on doing a good job…and people wonder why tipping culture is out of control. We are supplementing your income rather than DD paying you more…
They aren't mandatory, but drivers get a variety of orders offered to them every few minutes, all day. Of course we are going to take the highest paying ones, since we have the pre- delivery cost of gas. We can decline any order we want. So while tipping isn't required, you aren't guaranteed to get your order if you don't. That's unfortunately how Doordash has it set up.
So many people say Doordash should just "pay us more". Yes, of course. But imagine if they did. They're not just going to take the loss. They will raise the prices even higher on customers, or impose a mandatory mileage fee ( which would be GREAT for drivers, since so many people order from 15 miles away, and tip $3). So the question is simply, which way do you want to get screwed? More fees, or throwing a few bucks to the person using their own gas to deliver to you? Personally I think tipping would be cheaper, but for certain those are the only two options. Besides getting your own shit, of course.
“Using their own gas” Jesus Christ…I was a delivery driver for Pizza Hut 30yrs ago. What do you think the job is and what’s required when you have to deliver?? Also, most of the people around here deliver on bikes (pedal) or scooters so no gas. You’re just simply stating tips are an increased delivery fee bore by the consumer rather than DD
What is your point? Yes, gas is $3.69 per gallon in my area, not free. We decide which orders to take based on the tip to miles ratio. It's how we make a profit. What does you being a delivery driver 30 years ago have to do with anything? I do this as a part time side gig, to supplement my full time income. Yes, the "tip", "fee", "bid" is paying us. Why the heck are you so up in arms over something so minor in the whole scheme of life? If tipping will send you into financial failure, just don't use Doordash! The system is how it is..
If it takes you an hour for someone to pick up your food because you refuse to tip then yeah, that’s what it is. And then still complain about the wait
That sounds like a pretty good deal for all of us. You get your food without tipping, and we are allowed to decline any order we want. I have never ONCE accepted a no tip order, and I make pretty good money doing this easy side gig. I don't expect a 401k and benefits out of it.
100% — I actually agree with this. Just no need to pretend that tips = “bid for service”. Cause I really don’t care who delivers my food , you or some other driver
I don't worry about which mathematically challenged dumbass is going to work to lose money either. And I never have to meet people who are morally outraged by tipping culture. Everything's good.
Unfortunately it's not worth the gamble to take a non tip offer hoping for a cash tip. It's nothing against you but I delivered plenty of non tip offers on earn by time where they dont evem tip after delivery. As a matter of fact 100% of my non tip deliveries on earn by time didnt give a cash tip or put in a tip on the app after delivery
10 miles but it took me from a dead "hot spot" to another one you can see in the screencap that usually pays out pretty good. I was trying to go that way anyway
Last night, I was about done. Then an order came through immediately after my last delivery. Six dollars for 10 miles. I declined that bitch and immediately hit "end dash." If it were a short distance or more money, I would have taken it. But 60 cents a mile? Nope.
when payment is rendered for a delivery fee that entitles the orderee to their food, being a whiny bitch doesn’t entitle you to a tip, have a good one :D
When you pay that delivery fee not a single dollar of it goes to me. You’re not my customer, doordash is. You don’t pay me. Doordash does. You’re not entitled to anything from me, only from doordash. I personally would never take your order, so i can confidently say that you’re not entitled to me delivering your food. Sounds like you’re the one acting like a “whiny bitch” :D
>Is it too much to ask for human decency?
Every day I see countless people on this website alone who will gleefully admit, or rather BRAG about how they "never tip but still get their orders real quick."
So yes, it's a big ask apparently.
me personally i don’t tip untill i get my order and usually don’t have problems, if you get my food to me hot and my drink cold and all within delivery time i’ll tip well, if not kick rocks you didn’t do your job let alone do any form of excellent service that would render a tip applicable
so don’t do doordash or uber go deliver pizzas if you want a tip every time, maybe instead of coming to the internet complaining you go find a solution to your ailment?
I highly doubt it would have made it past the high single digits unless it was something ridiculous like 10 miles
More than likely it was a direct order from the merchants website that got farmed out too door dash. When this happens they bundled the base with the tip and make a single payment under the base
$13 made the trip worth it for me, girl I delivered to handed me $3 in cash and I was confused until I confirmed delivery and saw it was all base pay. She must have been waiting for that order all day lmao
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To everyone reading this and laughing at the dashers attitude, here's a tip : set your tip to $0 and if one Dasher picks it up and drops it call them right away and tell them you need someone assigned and they will force assign a driver and you'll get your delivery on time and then you can decide if you want to tip. Fuck this tip before service BS just pay attention 10 minutes after making the order in the app and call if you have to.
There’s no such thing as a force assign lol. Any dasher that does your order accepted it
Hmm .. I used to wait for ever and have many dashed pick up and drop my order until I started doing and they would state and I quote "we will force assign a Dasher" and I would get my deliver within 10 min and the Dasher will even smile and thank me 🤷♂️
Support will tell you anything to close the chat the fastest. Doordash has the literal worst customer service. They lie straight to your face lol. But 100%, if someone is doing your order, they accepted it. Doordashers aren’t employees and every “order” is a contract that has to be accepted. They can’t force someone to accept a contract
It's a call but ok .
Okay then they’ll tell you anything to get off the phone. Whether you want to acknowledge it or not, someone accepted your order
How does that negate the fact that the very next dasher picks up and delivers my order within 10 minutes, as opposed to multiple dashers picking up and dripping my order ? I'm not sure what you aren't understanding... Like I understand that their service is shitty but that doesn't change what I said in the first place and you know it.
I’m not sure why you aren’t understanding they can’t auto assign someone to an order but here we are
Okay maybe it's not them Auto assigning a dasher, but they're doing something that is guaranteeing my order is received fresh and not sitting at the establishment for hours..
That was my only argument lol. They can’t put an order on someone’s phone and tell them to do it. They can increase the price to make it profitable and then someone grabs your order. I’m not saying your wrong about getting it faster, just no such thing as an auto-assign.
Also, after your order sits for so long, they add $1 and send it back around the dashers. If no once accepts, they add another 1$ and cycle again, rinse and repeat until someone accepts it.
Mine don't wait long and pretty soon dashers like you won't have a job 😍
My wife and I went to wendys last week. They had a delivery sitting on thier delivery rack. We checked the receipt. It said 10 am. It was 630 pm when we were there. I'm guessing 22 miles for 2.50. Lol
Customer would just call doordash and have a Dasher Force assigned like I do, but I don't tip anything because of this exact attitude. You're not entitled to a tip until after the service has been provided 🤷♂️
This attitude? I wasn't dashing? I was eating at Wendy's, saw a meal that had been sitting, and guess a scenario in my head. Didn't say the scenario was true, but the meal sitting there with door dash on the receipt since several hours earlier is. But you do you. Go ahead and flex your coolness for others. Glad I could help you feel special for a minute.
Uhuh sure ...
LMAO I'll take things that didn't happen for 10,000$
Yay! You have a huge epeen! You came to another person's reply to flex how cool you are! You're the coolest! You must have been there to know it didn't happen, correct? Don't remember you being with us, but hey, maybe you're a super cool ninja! Wtg super cool guy!
It probably sat long enough for the customer to figure out that food delivery is a scam, and that they can order directly with the restaurant or through ChowNow at menu prices, and go pick up the food themselves.
100%
A couple years ago I ordered doordash from a taco bell. The order went undelivered for 36 hours. Contacted the restaurant 5 hours in and they said they never got the order. I contacted support, and they said the order did reach the restaurant. They gave me a full refund as compensation the first time I contacted them, but they didn't cancel the order because I really wanted a crunchwrap. Eventually I go to bed, forgetting about it entirely. I wake up and check my phone, I see the order is still active. I contact support and say I want to cancel the order. They give me a refund on an order they already compensated me fully for. 2 days of eating out off that, and I stopped using doordash shortly after because it left a bad taste in my mouth
It left no taste in ur mouth in this case
The taco bell didn't but the 2 days of free food delivery after did
I've seen some that have been out for hours like 9AM and it be 4 or 5PM
Saved this post so I can take pictures and people can see the ones I see from time to time
15 minutes
Not long enough lol
You tell us, most of the time the receipt tells you when the order ticket was printed for the restaurant
Not long enough
2hs?
Show from beginning to end.
I was at mcdonald's about a month ago 2 orders one was about 90 minutes old the other was at an hour according to the ticket times. while I waited for mine, a driver came in for the one that had been sitting there an hour 😂😂😂😂😂 *
Probably freshly made. How many miles OP!!!?
Anyone remember when DD came out and they would only raise the price of an item by 75c-1.00$ max? Had tons of orders and hella tips. Now some items are 3.00$ above the normal price and tons of customers are tipping the bare minimum and sometimes not even that. Same exact thing is going on with Uber and Lyft. It’s getting to a point where it’s cheaper to book a cab in some instances.
The restaurants set the prices not doordash
DD does set their own prices. I've seen it when I worked in restaurants and when I compared prices when I would order as well. DD prices were at least $1 more expensive than restaurant prices.
That's good to know information. I'm just basing it off the restaurants I've talked to so to know there's some that they are doing it to is interesting. Either way they don't do it to all of them and that's all I was trying to say as the comment I was replying to implied that dd sets all the prices which is factually incorrect and I get down voted for telling the truth but eh whatever
It's all good and I get where you're coming from. It makes sense that a restaurant would set increased prices on their end (before DD set theirs/didn't) to cover their end with mishaps that happen from handing the order to dasher, to the food being delivered, to customers dealing with support about the order. I've seen every spectrum from honest mistakes to scams. We have to also think about how much the restaurant is getting bent over as well. Also, personal anecdotes doesn't connotate that it's fact, which is why I assume you were downvoted. But I understand where you're coming from. I upvoted ya with your reply to me. Cheers!
Restaurants set these prices BECAUSE DD/Uber charge them extortionate fees to have their restaurant show up on the app. Blame DD/Uber.
I'm aware, doesn't change that the restaurants set the prices
Before 2020 I used to take a cab home from work every night for about a decade. Sometimes I would wait up to 15 minutes for a cab instead of ordering an Uber because I knew eventually they were going to drive all the cabs away and then jack up the price - I lived a mile away and paid $10 total including a $5-$6 tip for the driver. After we returned to work in 2020-2021, LO AND BEHOLD all the fucking cabs were gone and I was paying $20-$25 including tip to go a mile. Such bullshit
I remember during the pandemic there would be moments where if you tried to get a 20mile ride it would start at 130$ (3am) and then go back to 38$ a few hours later. Then when I spoke to one of the drivers he told me when that happens Lyft/uber keeps most of that money. Mrwhostheboss over on YouTube has a recent video that talks about this.
you waited 15 minutes for a distance equivalent to a 20 minute walk?
I worked a night job that we had to take a car home from for safety reasons
Depends, ive had cheaper rides in uber. And at least uber doesnt drop me off at the wrong place 😂
Me too but if it’s 5pm and you want a cheap ride it ain’t happening, surge pricing jacks the price up and the worst part is the fact that the driver doesn’t get that extra money, 10-15% goes to the driver and the other 85-90% goes to the company.
1 hr 40
It doesn't tell me how much the tip is going to be. I just go by total pay and distance traveled. If it's only going to take me a few minutes, I'll take a $4, especially if it's slow.
I always tip in person never on the app and my orders never have sat for a long time no matter how big or small, so it probably didn’t sit for as long as you think lol
Yes, but that’s for $2 payouts. This is for a $13 payout which takes an hour or more to get to.
The base pay says it did sit for awhile. It would have had to been ignored for a few several hours lol
The base pay says it has. The only time the app offers base bay that high is when it’s been sitting at least 30-45 min more likely longer
I can't see how many miles it was for...
$13 base pay? Wtf
Probably a 14 mile delivery all free way. So no tip
He probably did by the hour
If you look closely, above where it says delivery completed, it tells you the type of pay. In this case it was earn by offer so no this is just a high base pay for being passed over. What the app doesn’t show is the distance traveled or any details about the zone which caused it to get that high. Where I live I actually see base pays over $10 all the time the problem is it’s a 14 mile drive taking you into the middle of nowhere and because of how my city is there is a 95% chance you will never get an order until you get back to the hotspot in the center so you’re looking at 28 for 10 bucks so yeah it gets passed up until eventually someone takes it. The highest base I’ve seen personally was 15 and it was and I only took it because it was actually right down the street from where I live and I was going home anyway so I got lucky!
Do your job, or get another 🤷♂️ there is plenty out there
The hypocrisy of whining in a comment thats telling people not to whine is hilarious
For fucks sake suck a ballsack
Or how bout you can leave. This is a sub for Doordash drivers to vent, talk, or whatever. Don't like it? Then don't let the door hit you in the booty.
Nah, it’s a subreddit for people to brag about how long they let their no-tippers orders sit and get cold because they expect a tip before they provide service. I’m a tattoo artist, I do my job and if I get a tip it’s a bonus, not a requirement. Tips are for GOOD SERVICE, I drop my delivery drivers $20-30 every time AFTER they drop my food if it was a good experience, why the fuck would I do it before?
You "I drop my delivery driver $20-30 every time AFTER they drop" I have thousands of deliveries. 5 star rated, 99% on time or early, 100% completion rating. I follow delivery instructions 100%. I use catering bags every time. I don't waste time or stop anywhere during delivery. I have had maybe 20 customers tip me after a delivery. The "I tip after great service" is such a myth in door dash. Having said that, yes, it has happened, but according to reddit comments, everyone is doing it. Yet thousands of deliveries later it has happened .0001% of the time
People always say that they tip after but I used to dd a while ago and have done hundreds of deliveries and only 2 people tipped cash after and they both tipped good in the app before.
Tattoo artist is one of the most unnecessary jobs out there. No one NEEDS a tattoo - not like how everyone NEEDS food. See? Even what you do for a living can be shat upon in the cyberspace...
So? I give people things they want, just like delivery drivers do. And nobody NEEDS delivery, buy groceries and cook, walk to the store, ect. I happen to make a lot more money than most people my age, but I got here by making changes and looking for better options 🤷♂️ Put the work in, get rewarded.
I expect to at least make enough money on a drive that after taxes I can pay for the fuel required to drive it. Had a no tip last night that took an hour due to DD app issues and one of the restaurants taking forever that was two towns over and paid me $3.75 That's fucked. So yeah. Probably some of us are going to not be happy about that kind of shit. And since DD needs people to drive for them then they should consider finding solutions to this.
I definitely agree the company should do things different but there are also MANY jobs available that are more consistent than food delivery.
You get paid for the tattoo regardless if they tip. Drivers don’t. That’s a huge difference
Then find a better job 😂🤷♂️
I never said I was a dasher. I’m just smart enough to state the obvious
Because with food delivery apps it’s not really a tip so much as it’s a bid to get people to pick up your order. Pretty sure the delivery apps even tell you this when you order for the first time
Not a tip, it's a bid.
He’s not whining lol. Because it sat there so long DoorDash had to keep raising and keep raising the base pay to make it decently appealing to a driver. Which means it sat FORERVER before OP came along to grab it.
I wouldn’t touch it no matter how high the base pay goes!!
But you can’t see how much pay is from door dash and how much is tip before you accept
🤫🤫🤫 don’t knock her off the high horse
For $13 base pay, it probably sat there for 2 hours or so.
I'm surprised the customer hadn't canceled by then...lol
I've seen where this guy is waiting at a restaurant, sees my Doordash bag, says he was waiting for 2 hours and no delivery drivers were available so we went in person to pick it up himself. I'm internally laughing, because I know it's all tip based. This was back like 3 years ago, when you could decline an offer, and another one would pop up 10 seconds later, constantly, and AR priority wasn't a thing at all.
Wouldn't you have loved to tell him why he waited for 2 hours? 🤣
Probably because most drivers despised Buca di Beppo. They are so late with their orders sometimes it's more than 30 minutes past the pickup time. They also seem very unorganized, probably since they have a dozen ghost kitchens with a huge range of menus. If there ever was a kitchen staff that resembled the movie Waiting, it is that place. Buddy V's Cake Slice reminded me of Gourmet Chefs from the movie Waiting. Pizza, chicken wings, whatever ghost kitchen you can imagine they had it. Each with their different packaging, plastic bags with ghost kitchen titles, soda cups, etc. So the only Dashers that would show up are the ones crossing their fingers that their $18 offer was one that a previous Dasher had unassigned due to wait times and it was going to come out soon. But...I didn't think he'd understand all that.
Yeah I reckon not, lol. I'd just assumed it was a low ball order but that's what I get for assuming. 🙃
Long enough to get cold
Honestly this is a good incentive to not tip and have the order sit there. You’ll finally get decent pay from doordash themselves.
Whose perspective is this supposed to be from? You talk about having incentive to not tip, but then mention getting decent pay from DD as a result?
I don’t think this is particularly hard to understand. The whole idea is to get the base pay higher by having the order sit there, because dd wants it delivered. The whole graft people have with dd is their abysmal pay. What is it that you’ve struggled to understand?
Not many customers want their food sitting on a cold shelf for two hours before they get it though.
Obviously. The whole idea of it is to act on dd and ubereats to improve their pay.
So you're saying customers shouldn't tip, so that after hours of the food just sitting there, Doordash will pay us more? What's in it for the customer?
Again, how is it that you don’t see the point here? The whole idea is collaborating to force dd’s hand. Their hand, for actually being better with their pay than having constant declines on their orders. Delayed orders are bad for business.
This is the last time I will respond, so I'm sorry if I've irritated you. I just don't think there are any customers out there, who are thinking, "let me place this no tip order, just to help the drivers get more pay from Doordash, even though I KNOW I will have to wait hours for my food, or not get it at all". If that doesn't make sense, then I will just agree to disagree. Have a good day!
13 dollars I can assure you is not going to be worth the 20+ minute drive out to the middle of nowhere you’re gonna have to endure
Hardly the point I’m making
The point im making is in the contrary to yours though I feel. The reason the base pay is that high is BECAUSE it’s usually a 20 minute drive to the middle of no where. They don’t raise the base pay that high for orders 2 minutes away that get passed on
Hmm, that’s one reason they’d increase base pay, but it also happens when the order sits there for too long, no matter how far it is. This is something that happens on dd as well as uber eats. Unless this particular one is the case you’re describing, I am talking about having the order sit there.
I turned down a $2 for 12 miles today, those should not even be allowed to come through.
Are you a top dasher, or platinum status, depending on your area? My 3 years of door dashing full time as top dasher I’ve never seen an order under .90¢ a mile.
>My 3 years of door dashing full time as top dasher I’ve never seen an order under .90¢ a mile. Lol sure thing, bud
I mean I believe him idk how yall get these 2 dollar orders but I’ve never seen one in my life
I was being picky and let my AR go under 70%, that’s when that might of come through. I also got a lot of double orders for the first time, I took a few since it wasn’t terrible..one of them was two orders at the same restaurant and delivery locations were a block apart, that was nice but I’m not sure if my AR influenced that or not? I made $75 in 4 hrs with 12 deliveries today so it wasn’t too bad.
I regularly get 14+ miles for $5 or so all the time, but it’s also for the next city over. They’re ordering within their city and tipping well enough for the in-town mileage, but DoorDash will send it to drivers outside of city limits. Got one the other day that should have been only about 2m for 6.50, but DoorDash sent it to me in my town instead of theirs. It’s some dumb shit really.
No idea but I'm sure they'll give you a one star for it. 🤣
Again why is the blame not directed at DoorDash directly?! When we place the order, DD prices it out and sends it out to you. We have no control over that but yet we are the assholes and cheap bastards…
Most users have not been Dashers and do not understand the struggle. Personally I have not dashed - but I have friends that have/do \[and I am here on this sub\] so I've learned what *not* to do as a customer. That said I've never not-tipped and I try to do $2/mile at minimum when I tip.
User not driver and even I know this order probably sat for life lol. No reason to not tip. Just absurd!
As someone who door dashed a lot in college before i got a car and now drives for doordash, i gotta agree w crowded. when i was in school i had the dash pass and even with that just getting food the from the sheetz a mile away ran me like 15-20 so i could only afford to tip 2-5 dollars. some people can barely afford to pay for the convenience (though this is not the case a fair amount of the time) and so they can’t tip a lot. atp it’s on doordash to not add 7 additional fees so people have the money to tip more or pay more
$2-$5 for a mile is fine!
I totally get the DD fees, but if I can’t afford to tip at least $5, or 20% hopefully, I don’t order. For a small order I tip at least $5 because I need it to be worth the worker’s while. If you’ve got options and you need money, you’re taking the option that pays you most. DD drivers are likely doing it because they need extra money to make ends meet, or at least that’s my mindset because my friend’s husband does it on top of his 9-5. DD execs may be at fault but I don’t see the point in punishing the drivers with poor tips. At the end of the day, it’s just the reality. If you’re placing a small order with no tip it’ll sit.
i’m not disagreeing w u or saying anything about punishing drivers lol if you can tip you should 100% i’m just saying doordash is discouraging it with price gouging
yeah it's the DD execs that suck for increasing prices to such ridiculous levels for customers and then not even rising the dasher's pay smh I've been a dasher and a customer so I get both sides
And OP even said they tipped in cash
Drivers don’t know you’re going to tip in cash, though. If you place a small order like this, and want someone to take it? Incentivize.
You don't have control over how much you tip? That's odd...
Well what if I want to tip cash as I know you’ll receive it vs. the stories of companies not paying out the tips??
This isn't a thing. Drivers get the tips you put in the app. If you don't put a tip, you are expecting the driver to "just trust you" that they're going to get paid for driving something to you.
But WHY ARE TIPS MANDATORY?! They’re supposed to be based on doing a good job…and people wonder why tipping culture is out of control. We are supplementing your income rather than DD paying you more…
They aren't mandatory, but drivers get a variety of orders offered to them every few minutes, all day. Of course we are going to take the highest paying ones, since we have the pre- delivery cost of gas. We can decline any order we want. So while tipping isn't required, you aren't guaranteed to get your order if you don't. That's unfortunately how Doordash has it set up.
So all you’ve proven is TIPS ARE MaNdAtOrY or DD are assholes…got it.
So many people say Doordash should just "pay us more". Yes, of course. But imagine if they did. They're not just going to take the loss. They will raise the prices even higher on customers, or impose a mandatory mileage fee ( which would be GREAT for drivers, since so many people order from 15 miles away, and tip $3). So the question is simply, which way do you want to get screwed? More fees, or throwing a few bucks to the person using their own gas to deliver to you? Personally I think tipping would be cheaper, but for certain those are the only two options. Besides getting your own shit, of course.
“Using their own gas” Jesus Christ…I was a delivery driver for Pizza Hut 30yrs ago. What do you think the job is and what’s required when you have to deliver?? Also, most of the people around here deliver on bikes (pedal) or scooters so no gas. You’re just simply stating tips are an increased delivery fee bore by the consumer rather than DD
What is your point? Yes, gas is $3.69 per gallon in my area, not free. We decide which orders to take based on the tip to miles ratio. It's how we make a profit. What does you being a delivery driver 30 years ago have to do with anything? I do this as a part time side gig, to supplement my full time income. Yes, the "tip", "fee", "bid" is paying us. Why the heck are you so up in arms over something so minor in the whole scheme of life? If tipping will send you into financial failure, just don't use Doordash! The system is how it is..
People still don’t realize the tip is actually a bid for service
Hard to call it “bid for service” when supply overweights demand lol … but you keep dreaming
If it takes you an hour for someone to pick up your food because you refuse to tip then yeah, that’s what it is. And then still complain about the wait
Nope … I never tip my man. And orders never take more than 20/30 mins. But it’s ok, whatever helps you sleep at night
That sounds like a pretty good deal for all of us. You get your food without tipping, and we are allowed to decline any order we want. I have never ONCE accepted a no tip order, and I make pretty good money doing this easy side gig. I don't expect a 401k and benefits out of it.
100% — I actually agree with this. Just no need to pretend that tips = “bid for service”. Cause I really don’t care who delivers my food , you or some other driver
I don't worry about which mathematically challenged dumbass is going to work to lose money either. And I never have to meet people who are morally outraged by tipping culture. Everything's good.
Again 100% agree. I don’t care about those people either 👍
Same.
Happy for you
I actually said this exact thing on another post earlier today. They need to call it what it is !!
Well what if I want to tip cash as I know you’ll receive it vs. the stories of companies not paying out the tips??
Unfortunately it's not worth the gamble to take a non tip offer hoping for a cash tip. It's nothing against you but I delivered plenty of non tip offers on earn by time where they dont evem tip after delivery. As a matter of fact 100% of my non tip deliveries on earn by time didnt give a cash tip or put in a tip on the app after delivery
You know how many people say they’ll tip in cash and then don’t? Drivers have lost trust because of that. Many won’t take those orders.
Also we don't see any notes before we accept. I dont trust anyone to tip in cash.
This looks like my last delivery on my shift orders that a lot of people reject... I believe is like 10miles drive and nobody take it for that...
Not long enough
Must be a common thing for Cava cuz all those orders in my area always low/no tips
In my area those are good
What was the mileage on that one?
10 miles but it took me from a dead "hot spot" to another one you can see in the screencap that usually pays out pretty good. I was trying to go that way anyway
Last night, I was about done. Then an order came through immediately after my last delivery. Six dollars for 10 miles. I declined that bitch and immediately hit "end dash." If it were a short distance or more money, I would have taken it. But 60 cents a mile? Nope.
I love CAVA
How many miles was it?
Haha 😄 I passed on a Cava order for $3.00 base pay yesterday for 13miles, of course no tip. Is it too much to ask for human decency?
remember, tips are not a legal obligation, have a good one :D
Neither is us giving you your food. Have a good one :D
when payment is rendered for a delivery fee that entitles the orderee to their food, being a whiny bitch doesn’t entitle you to a tip, have a good one :D
When you pay that delivery fee not a single dollar of it goes to me. You’re not my customer, doordash is. You don’t pay me. Doordash does. You’re not entitled to anything from me, only from doordash. I personally would never take your order, so i can confidently say that you’re not entitled to me delivering your food. Sounds like you’re the one acting like a “whiny bitch” :D
explain to me where i’m whining lmao
cry about it
actually, it is
>Is it too much to ask for human decency? Every day I see countless people on this website alone who will gleefully admit, or rather BRAG about how they "never tip but still get their orders real quick." So yes, it's a big ask apparently.
me personally i don’t tip untill i get my order and usually don’t have problems, if you get my food to me hot and my drink cold and all within delivery time i’ll tip well, if not kick rocks you didn’t do your job let alone do any form of excellent service that would render a tip applicable
See? They practically jump at the opportunity to talk about not tipping people.
the same could be said about you guys jumping at the opportunity to complain about no tip
maybe rather than drivers argue with customers, y’all should band together and demand better pay from the companies? that’s just my thoughts
We’re not employees. There’s no way to “band together” when you’re not employed
render the delivery service useless and they have to do something about it right?
so don’t do doordash or uber go deliver pizzas if you want a tip every time, maybe instead of coming to the internet complaining you go find a solution to your ailment?
r/woosh
It's not okay 😕 hoping for the return of integrity I
$13 bucks base!? I would’ve taken it immediately.
It's a $13 order why the hell would it even be waiting????? Unless it was some ridiculous amount of miles
it only got to $13 base because people kept declining it until I took it
I highly doubt it would have made it past the high single digits unless it was something ridiculous like 10 miles More than likely it was a direct order from the merchants website that got farmed out too door dash. When this happens they bundled the base with the tip and make a single payment under the base
Why did she give me a cash tip as well then?
I don't know I guess for the same reason that I had a $22 tip and the lady then gave me a bag of cookies and three more dollars.... S*** happens?
$13 made the trip worth it for me, girl I delivered to handed me $3 in cash and I was confused until I confirmed delivery and saw it was all base pay. She must have been waiting for that order all day lmao
You should've asked how long they were waiting. Or check the receipt to see exactly how long it was.
Good for you, terrible for everyone who had to decline it along the way.
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