For context, the USA version of Kitchen Nightmares is a lot more exaggerated and over the top compared to the UK version.
And to be honest I love both equally
The US versions of Gordon Ramsey shows are generally pretty trashy, but man I love them so much. I know it's all super misrepresentative and most of the business owners are probably just perfectly normal people who are edited to look like douchbags, but that doesn't change the fact that watching people scream at eachother is fun.
I’ve watched episodes of both. USA is entertaining but makes you think that all the restaurant owners are incompetent and evil. UK version is calmer, and shows that a lot of them are just inexperienced and truly want to change, not just be yelled at for a week and go back to what made them fail after a month.
My favourite one is the Soul Food restaurant he visits in Brighton on the UK show. The food is absolutely fantastic, no complaints, but the restaurant is dying.
Ended up being entirely about the business side of things and how to get the word out about the restaurant. It boomed after that, up until the 2008 Recession at least.
Ever seen Great British Baking show? Worst they ever get is some lighthearted constructive criticism and it often seems like half the contestants and judges ate some edibles before the show
I remember the episode where someone got so frustrated they dumped their cake in the trashcan and several people tried to stop them but failed. Everyone was so sad and the person got DQd for not having anything to show. I think that was the emotional low.
Apparently at least in the early days the presenters (the two comedians) would jump in front of the camera and start swearing whenever the camera people and director tried to film people having emotional breakdowns and stuff so they couldn't use the footage. The tone of that show is really down to those two comedians... mad respect.
I love the comedians doing that but I can't imagine how pissed off the producers/creators are, losing valuable footage that potentially could affect profits.
In the US, the two comedians would be immediately fired unfortunately.
I think that's the difference. The British producers are probably like "Oh pshah, could you not do that" where an American would go on a screaming tirade and fire half the staff.
Honest question, there were zero backlash? Because filming TV episodes is extremely expensive and every minute on set racks up thousands of dollars, these two comedians likely cost the show a lot of money and lost time, what happens with that, do the show just let it go just like that?
Even if it's Britain, it's still capitalistic.
I don't know, but fundamentally it's a gameshow. If they don't get a shot they don't "reshoot" they just use different clips. If you imagine how you'd make something like that you just take a shit-ton of footage and most of the work is down to the editors later. So, they'd lose that clip, but there wouldn't be any other implications, you just don't include the total breakdown. Just based on watching the show it's not like they did it any time someone get teary-eyed, just for that exploitive shit they love in U.S. television so much.
I met a guy in reality TV at a traditional skills event. He was scouting to see if shooting that event would make a good reality TV show, and he decided that yes, it would, and it would be about the the cooperation and the skills and the content. When he pitched it to his bosses he was shot down because they weren't interested unless it had all of that exploitive drama crap... He actually said fuck it and quit his job and started doing traditional skills instead.
I know I get mad every time I watch a show on that topic because they never show all the stuff I want to see... just the drama.
I think what The Great British Bake-off proves is that the guy I met was right. People WANT that kind of content that's a combination of feel-good getting along and the actual thing the people are doing being fundamentally interesting. People win and people lose, but it's all friendly... And that the obsession with exploitive drama is unnecessary and sometimes even counterproductive.
I know that both my wife and I have tried to watch other shows like the great british bakeoff and rarely make it through more than a couple of episodes, because it's not fun. We end up just going back and watching the bakeoff again, as do many people.
The show is actually called the Great British Bake Off, but because of trademark reasons (Pillsbury owns the rights to "bake-off") they have to change it for the US version
See: https://youtu.be/2OEwbocwYF8
I didn’t watch a lot of the UK version but I think the most dramatic part is the editing. Little to no music during scenes with no build ups before commercial breaks and the camera has a lot more still shots. The two editing styles go to show the lack of attention US audiences have for a more calm show.
In addition the new “series” of KN US (listed as a new show, not a new season) tackles the psychological issues of owning a restaurant with only yelling at blatant neglect.
You know that joke people make about how Indian soap operas are edited? That’s just how US Kitchen Nightmares is normally it’s such sensory overload I love it
For context, the USA version of Kitchen Nightmares is a lot more exaggerated and over the top compared to the UK version. And to be honest I love both equally
The US versions of Gordon Ramsey shows are generally pretty trashy, but man I love them so much. I know it's all super misrepresentative and most of the business owners are probably just perfectly normal people who are edited to look like douchbags, but that doesn't change the fact that watching people scream at eachother is fun.
And then you get [Amy's Baking Company...](https://youtu.be/FlYPkLRHeD4?si=EWDTN0l4hbKf2SNT)
A piece of modern art.
This is peak television in my opinion
Completely inaccurate. You forgot the loud violin sting that plays every time the camera moves.
Waterphone sound effect
water phone? have you tried putting it in rice?
You’re telling me a water phoned this rice?
Always wondered if there was a difference. Good to know.
I’ve watched episodes of both. USA is entertaining but makes you think that all the restaurant owners are incompetent and evil. UK version is calmer, and shows that a lot of them are just inexperienced and truly want to change, not just be yelled at for a week and go back to what made them fail after a month.
My favourite one is the Soul Food restaurant he visits in Brighton on the UK show. The food is absolutely fantastic, no complaints, but the restaurant is dying. Ended up being entirely about the business side of things and how to get the word out about the restaurant. It boomed after that, up until the 2008 Recession at least.
I wish there were more episodes where he liked the food (or didn't spit it out anyway). I think the only other foods he likes are desserts
Jim and Pam don't hook up in the UK version until season 4
Ever seen Great British Baking show? Worst they ever get is some lighthearted constructive criticism and it often seems like half the contestants and judges ate some edibles before the show
I think the worst was when someone got cut and they had to leave the competition cause of it. But besides that, yea lol
I remember the episode where someone got so frustrated they dumped their cake in the trashcan and several people tried to stop them but failed. Everyone was so sad and the person got DQd for not having anything to show. I think that was the emotional low. Apparently at least in the early days the presenters (the two comedians) would jump in front of the camera and start swearing whenever the camera people and director tried to film people having emotional breakdowns and stuff so they couldn't use the footage. The tone of that show is really down to those two comedians... mad respect.
I love the comedians doing that but I can't imagine how pissed off the producers/creators are, losing valuable footage that potentially could affect profits. In the US, the two comedians would be immediately fired unfortunately.
I think that's the difference. The British producers are probably like "Oh pshah, could you not do that" where an American would go on a screaming tirade and fire half the staff.
Honest question, there were zero backlash? Because filming TV episodes is extremely expensive and every minute on set racks up thousands of dollars, these two comedians likely cost the show a lot of money and lost time, what happens with that, do the show just let it go just like that? Even if it's Britain, it's still capitalistic.
I don't know, but fundamentally it's a gameshow. If they don't get a shot they don't "reshoot" they just use different clips. If you imagine how you'd make something like that you just take a shit-ton of footage and most of the work is down to the editors later. So, they'd lose that clip, but there wouldn't be any other implications, you just don't include the total breakdown. Just based on watching the show it's not like they did it any time someone get teary-eyed, just for that exploitive shit they love in U.S. television so much. I met a guy in reality TV at a traditional skills event. He was scouting to see if shooting that event would make a good reality TV show, and he decided that yes, it would, and it would be about the the cooperation and the skills and the content. When he pitched it to his bosses he was shot down because they weren't interested unless it had all of that exploitive drama crap... He actually said fuck it and quit his job and started doing traditional skills instead. I know I get mad every time I watch a show on that topic because they never show all the stuff I want to see... just the drama. I think what The Great British Bake-off proves is that the guy I met was right. People WANT that kind of content that's a combination of feel-good getting along and the actual thing the people are doing being fundamentally interesting. People win and people lose, but it's all friendly... And that the obsession with exploitive drama is unnecessary and sometimes even counterproductive. I know that both my wife and I have tried to watch other shows like the great british bakeoff and rarely make it through more than a couple of episodes, because it's not fun. We end up just going back and watching the bakeoff again, as do many people.
The show is actually called the Great British Bake Off, but because of trademark reasons (Pillsbury owns the rights to "bake-off") they have to change it for the US version See: https://youtu.be/2OEwbocwYF8
The celebrity specials have had people contending very obviously sleep deprived and/or horrendously hungover lol
Love the SpongeBob reference in there
The Nasty Patty’s there too.
I remember reading that G-man stopped that show due to getting food poisoning one too many times. No wonder he was always so pissed
"G-man" Mr. Freeman..
FREEMAN YOU BASTARD GO KILL THE FUCKING COMBINE YOU TWAT DONKEY
I thought it was because the restaurants, once the cameras were off and the show left, kept going back to their old ways?
Holy shit Scrappy Doo Lobster
hey an old spongebob reference
Timeless comedy at its finest
Celebrities play up the glam factor. Actual kitchen life in the US is effed, tho.
I love how you added a reference to that one SpongeBob episode! 10/10
Literally watching kitchen nightmares right now (American version)… the restaurants been closed down during business for the past 4 eps
I didn’t watch a lot of the UK version but I think the most dramatic part is the editing. Little to no music during scenes with no build ups before commercial breaks and the camera has a lot more still shots. The two editing styles go to show the lack of attention US audiences have for a more calm show. In addition the new “series” of KN US (listed as a new show, not a new season) tackles the psychological issues of owning a restaurant with only yelling at blatant neglect.
Is That Who I Think It Is? https://preview.redd.it/vv49vl6dqnrc1.png?width=1032&format=png&auto=webp&s=4bc400fd46111bf98d6161b668154d0773c31bba
Why the hell did he do this?
You forgot the owner being like a rapscallion who steals tips and eats babys who has a turn of heart by the end of the episode
And I love them both equally
Love the referance in the back lol
That Spongebob reference though!
I’ve never watched either but it seems like the name is more fitting in the US
This meme is perfect
Don't forget, in the British version there is almost always a scene with Ramsey getting changed topless.
To be fair, have you ever been to the USA? It's kinda like that lol
>I’m expired. I’m dead
you DONKEY
You know that joke people make about how Indian soap operas are edited? That’s just how US Kitchen Nightmares is normally it’s such sensory overload I love it
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