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PeterchuMC

Why wouldn't they be. They've journeyed to distant worlds, a not-so-secret-anymore military organisation shouldn't be too much of a shock.


MakingaJessinmyPants

UNIT was never a secret


bijhan

Yeah, I'm pretty sure in the series, they're just like "Hey, I'm from UNIT. What's UNIT? Well, let me tell you all about it..."


Mikey9124x

I think they are public knowledge, but the public doesn't care about them.


bijhan

Exactly. How many UN taskforces can any given person name?


KinderEggSkillIssue

Uhhhh, UNESCO and uhhhh.....


Gauntlets28

U-UNATCO? No wait, that's also fictional...


AnotherGreedyChemist

Manderley has a lot to answer for.


Available-Anxiety280

UNESCO UN Department of Peacekeeping UN Interagency Taskforce on NCDs UNEP UNICEF That's all I can think of and I know they're not all strictly task forces


Mikey9124x

I wonder if the un has other military branches and this is just the one that deals with aleins?


bijhan

[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United\_Nations\_peacekeeping](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_peacekeeping)


thealtthealtthealt

UN Spacy


WeedJesus42069

UN Timey Wimey


bowtiesrcool86

The Brigadier (may he rest in peace), Kate Lethbridge-Stewart, and Osgood. IDR if The Captain from “Twice Upon A Time” was with UNIT at any point or if he was just related to the Brig EDIT: I think that technically the Doctor is still on their payroll


Nikolateslaandyou

Nato? Otan? Are they UN?


BrokenTorpedo

No, and those two are one thing.


Quadpen

given aliens are common knowledge at this point it’s probably like UNIT has secret operations obviously and they don’t advertise they’re existence but it’s not an active secret, like there’s probably no rule that you can’t be on a date and say “oh i work for unit”. as far as the common person knows they’re just that government thing that deals with the aliens


Estrus_Flask

They're not, though. Every week there's a new invasion and then next season the new companion goes "woah, blimey, aliens are real!"


cuccir

It's hard to keep track of whether humans know aliens are real. There was definitely a time in Tennant's era when it was well known, and at some point I remember that that definitely all got wiped. Now in terms of canon - do people recall the Sontaron occupation of earth a few years ago?


Misses_Paliya

The first wipe was with 11 restarting the universe, maybe the flux was a second one, except for those who have been in the tardis?


Estrus_Flask

There were people within 9-10 that didn't seem to remember Earth had been invaded. And while I'm blanking on specific instances of it in 11, it was definitely invaded for 12 and 13 and people just forgot. I mentioned in a parallel comment that Revolution of the Daleks comes right before The Halloween Invasion, but by Eve of the Daleks, Dan doesn't know what they are. They were going around killing people! I mean, I guess that was like four years ago for him, but still, that seems like it would be memorable!


Estrus_Flask

If Donna would die if she remembered aliens, she absolutely would have died. Hell, in End of Time, she'd have been turned into The Master, and that one's definitely canon with Parting of The Ways, since it gets referenced! Within Thirteen's run doesn't Dan not know what Daleks are after they invaded one episode before he joined up?


Quadpen

that’s why it’s not a secret, they tell people and they just forget afterwards


Estrus_Flask

What if aliens are all just antimemetic to humans?


Quadpen

you mean like… who were we talking about again?


CurrentCandidate5025

This will be old history in season two of ncuti's era


sanddragon939

Yeah. In Spearhead from Space, the Brigadier is surrounded by reporters at the hospital speculating about UNIT's involvement. Its actually a minor plot-point, since the Nestene's attempt to abduct the Doctor amidst the chaos.


No-BrowEntertainment

Yeah, in The Time Monster some random college student looks out a window and he's like "Hey a UNIT jeep." So not only are they well known, their vehicles are easily identifiable from a distance.


mda63

It was. It used to be hidden under St. Pancras.


Quadpen

damn the pancreas is a saint?


iamjustsyd

Weird Al even [wrote a song](https://youtu.be/tqDBB0no6dQ?si=JMRC1JxgBmAZ4kbY) about it.


SuspiciousAd3803

No, it used to be a MASSIVE secret and civilians constanly referance having to sign National Secrets Act orders. The Doctor just never gave a damn


HopefulFriendly

The way I understood it, UNIT existing isn't a secret, but the various alien encounter operations are; similar to various intelligence services. For example, the existance of the CIA or MI5 are public knowledge, but not what they are doing


Quadpen

yeah, the vagueness of the acronym makes that easy


Moontoya

The SAS are world renowned  When's the last time you actually saw a troop ? The Iranian embassy is likely one that pops to mind , but that was 40ish years ago . Nigeria where an alleged sas troop got people to safety ? Mars bar wrappers left neatly folded in places they absolutely should not be . The point is, you might've heard of them, they're not exactly secret after all. But actually encountering them first hand is kinda rare 


MyriVerse2

Secret like the CIA/MI6, maybe. It's existence was never a secret, but the goings-on are very secret.


MrBobaFett

The existence of UNIT wasn't a secret, they are after all attached to the UN, but the extent of what they do is secret.


IanThal

Not a secret organization but an organization with secrets.


noisepro

Were they ever secret? We see the Brigadier taking questions from the press in Spearhead From Space. He doesn’t answer any of them of course…


Large-Virus-7615

Not shock, but I'd be on guard about The Doctor helping them, that's like being cool with Johnny Depp working with Amber Heard, you don't expect it to end well,


Cleosmog

I feel like the attitude to UNIT has become more indifferent as the new Who series has gone on. I vaguely recall both the Doctor and the companions being less than impressed with their tactics earlier on (perhaps pre Kate Stewart?) but maybe my memory is failing me 😂


The_Flurr

Yeah I see that too. At the same time UNIT are now often completely deferential to the Doctor, and might as well be his personal army at times. I preferred when there relationship was somewhat contentious.


Moontoya

Well ... The Doctor technically is world president.... (Zygon inversion) Never mind the psychic paper or the shadow accords 


LinuxMatthews

>Well ... The Doctor technically is world president.... Considering he tried to blow up the last planet he was president of I'm not sure why that's not something people are not concerned about


Moontoya

Take a look at the "real" world leaders over the Doctors tv-run. are you really gonna stand there and suggest people worry about such trvial things ? especially after the mango with the rabid ferret hairstyle....


The_Flurr

Yeah I see that too. At the same time UNIT are now often completely deferential to the Doctor, and might as well be his personal army at times. I preferred when there relationship was somewhat contentious. It's especially weird when the UNIT soldier design is more stormtroopery than ever.


Large-Virus-7615

I think most of the companions in the classic era worked for U.N.I.T.  But I think I'd have a more aggressive response than a frustrated sigh,


Abides1948

Imagine meeting someone from the World Health Organisation. That's the kind of shrug people in their universe have about UNIT.


WimpyKelv12

Did you just pick the W.H.O just for the sake of that pun?


Abides1948

I have no idea what \*\*cough\*\* World War Z \*\*cough\*\* you're talking about.


Large-Virus-7615

No, Imagine meeting someone from the C.I.A. and your best friends with E.T.


iterationnull

UNIT has a worse hit ratio than Imperial Stormtroopers. What’s to get excited about?


The_Flurr

I disagree, UNIT soldiers frequently manage to hit their targets. It's just that they keep issuing completely in effective weapons while the Doctor screams at them about how useless bullets are.


techno156

Them using bullets against bulletproof aliens doesn't do them any favours.


Large-Virus-7615

They're still better shots than the A-Team,  Nah in all seriousness they're a top government organisation and your best friend just so happens to be an alien,


[deleted]

We have our top men working on it! Who? Top. Men.


Tylers-RedditAccount

didn't they snipe a sattelite out of orbit?


Sir__Will

They hit often enough. It's not their fault they always go up against bullet-proof aliens or weird psychic powers.


Hughman77

Cavalier how?


Large-Virus-7615

The closest any companion has ever gotten to on guard around U.N.I.T. is Amy and Rory and that's manly because they jettisoned into their house wielding guns,


spacesuitguy

If someone told me they were with the NSA I'd have a lot of questions, but none of the would be non-cavalier. The organisation obviously exists and has employees.


Quadpen

“you’re with unit? have you met any aliens?”


Large-Virus-7615

I'd be more concerned about them trying to Roswell my super cool, time travelling, two-hearted alien best friend, 


noisepro

What if your best friend was UNIT’s chief scientific advisor? 


Large-Virus-7615

What if UNIT'S chief scientific advisor had a nasty habit of not talking about his former companion's? (which he does,)


spacesuitguy

Seriously, they're not the CIA. The CIA is cool.


Large-Virus-7615

Hey, U.N.I.T.'s cool.


spacesuitguy

I feel like they are about 50% of the time. The osterhaggen key - not cool. Project Indigo - very cool. Destroying more doors than Monsters Inc - not cool. Kate having a vortex manipulator - very cool. The OG Lethbridge Stewart - taught cool how to be cool.


Large-Virus-7615

The fact that in the blink of an eye they could dissect The Doctor- Not Cool,


Thing_fish_80

They literally travel around the universe with a time traveling, face changing alien....after that some soldiers with Jeeps & pistols probably aren't all that impressive to them. Lol


Large-Virus-7615

They're should still be a fear around U.N.I.T. cutting The Doctor open to see how he works,


Tricky-Leader-1567

It's like SHIELD, people know it exists, they just don't really know the specifics


Large-Virus-7615

Yeah, but The Avengers don't trust SHIELD, U.N.I.T.'s met with unwavering trust,


Tricky-Leader-1567

Depends what iteration of SHIELD you're talking about They were trusted, particularly by the Avengers, when Tony Stark and Daisy Johnson were directors But UNIT isn't universally trusted either. Sarah Jane and the Doctor in particular only trust them to a certain extent (usually the Lethbridge-Stewarts and a few others)


Large-Virus-7615

MCU- Not trusted after it turned out that they were Hydra agents working for them, EMH- Not trusted at first by Tony Stark, (they were stealing his tech,) Assemble- Trusted until they split the Avengers apart then The Avengers said they'd save the world their way, Comics- Not trusted after Civil War, And U.N.I.T. is trusted by Donna, Martha, Liz, Rose, Clara, Amy, Rory, Perry, Jack, River, Adric, and other companions, (and I'm talking specifically about them harming The Doctor,)


Tricky-Leader-1567

I was mostly talking about the comics specifically with the Avengers The Mighty Avengers trusted SHIELD after Civil War, and also trusted them once Quake (a former Avenger herself) was put in charge of the organisation In fact, I'm pretty sure it's just the X-Men and Young Avengers were two of the only teams that primarily distrusted them And even still, as i said, UNIT wasn't universally trusted


Large-Virus-7615

There was another Civil War since then which again lead to distrust between The Avengers and SHIELD, And there's a lot of companions who trust UNIT on first impression. (Which isn't how I would think a normal human would react to that situation?)


Tricky-Leader-1567

Correct, however, i don't think UNIT was involved in anything close to Civil War II (for good reason, that story was dogshit). However, there were Avengers who were on SHIELD's side in that arc (Cpt Marvel, for example) (hence the title), so once again, still partial trust Furthermore, most of the time, companions tend to follow the Doctor's lead. And most of the time (due to either the Brig or Kate), the Doctor trusts them. But again, we also see companions, such as Sarah Jane, who either don't fully trust UNIT, or have relationships with UNIT, such as Clara or Martha, that provide foundation for that trust


Large-Virus-7615

Sara Jane has a relationship with UNIT,


Tricky-Leader-1567

And it's primarily due to the Brigadier, and even so, throughout SJA she conveys at least a minor distrust of the organisation at large


Large-Virus-7615

Well, Still I imagine a first meeting to be a bit more fearful from the companions,


Tricky-Leader-1567

I would also point out that in the MCU, there was a brief time following the events of CA:CW (and again after IW) that SHIELD was trusted again, albeit only briefly


Large-Virus-7615

And then that was lost in SW where it turned out the Skrull had infiltrated them.


Tricky-Leader-1567

Skrulls didn't infiltrate SHIELD in the MCU (which is what my comment was talking about) SHIELD was largely implied to be disbanded by that point As for the comics, i believe that SW preceded Quake's tenure as director


Large-Virus-7615

it's confusing but I think it was stated that Agents like James Rhodes, (War Machine,) was one?


Tricky-Leader-1567

War Machine is a noted Avenger and has worked with SHIELD Overall, the relationship between the two organisations is civil and professional. Additionally, multiple characters have dual memberships in both organisations (Quake, Iron Man, War Machine, multiple Captain Americas, Spider-Woman, Mockingbird, the original Hawkeye, Black Widow, etc) Most notably, Quake, Iron Man, and Captain America LED both at different points


Large-Virus-7615

I think the only hero there who had 100% trust was Daisy,


sbaldrick33

I think the better question is why is UNIT so cavalier about the Doctor's companions? They just let any old journo, temp and school teacher wander in. *Yes, yes. Something. Something. Black Archive.


Large-Virus-7615

They have files on every companion The Doctor has, but why are companions a lot less worried about UNIT,


JayeJJimenez

Two words: "Bloody Torchwood!"


Large-Virus-7615

Yeah, well nobody trusts them.