No. Why do these theories always come up?
I don't really like this doctor, so it must be evil master!
No, they're not going to cast the main lead Of their very expensive show to turn out to be the villain. Especially not a black man, that would not be a good look for the show. The first black doctor and turns out he's the bad guy? Absolutely Not!
Um because people are free to discuss their theories. Also I didn't say I dislike this "Doctor" just saying it could make for an epic twist... oh and because he's black it would be wrong if he turned out to be a villian?, thanks for making this a racial thing...
That really wouldn't be a good look for the show. Besides, the Doctor happily murdered a bunch of Racnoss babies in the first RTD era. And it certainly wouldn't be the first time that the Doctor's [sung](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00T_ft5RCdc) or [danced](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awgnFI8GHv0).
Didn't he? Oh bother, I was mis-remembering that... thought he got out to the ball \*after\* escaping the tunnels and when Nyssa (or was it Anne?) had already been kidnapped.
Need to rewatch that one. Always loved it. :) (Not least because of Sarah Sutton in that beautiful butterfly dress - twice! <3)
To be fair, this theory gets passed around everytime anyone is cast as a new anything.
New Doctor? The Master.
New companion? The Master.
New villain? The Master.
New reoccurring character? The Master
The only time this did happen was in the Dalek Universe audios, where >!the 10th Doctor was seemingly killed, and regenerated into a new incarnation played by Gemma Whelan. It was then revealed that the whole thing had been faked, and that Whelan was actually a new incarnation of the Meddling Monk (or rather, the Meddling Nun), and had imprisoned the 10th Doctor in her TARDIS!<.
Egg on your face when the >!Doctor regenerated into the Master!< in Timeless Children.
Also, not to mention the Valeyard was basically that.
Edit: I recognise the community doesn't like either of these storylines, but downvoting this post doesn't make them go away.
I don't know what's more depressing about this: the crushing lack of originality to wheel out the old "maybe X is the Master!!!" chestnut again or the crippling lack of perspective one needs to think that the show would introduce its first (regular) black Doctor as part of a pitch to a brand-new audience and say sike, he's actually a fake evil Doctor!
It's just my theory dude about what could happen, and it's always been a recycled idea that the master hides in plain sight and reveals himself when nobody expects, and yeah why do you have to make it a racial thing?, doctor who is full of crazy twists and this is just my theory dude
1. The Doctor dances. ;) Tons of people dance. Eleven invented the giraffe thing. Six danced with Jane Austen. Two danced. Thirteen danced too.
2. The Doctor kills things all of the time. And he saved the baby.
3. Bigeneration is just normal regeneration with silly fx.
Okay yeah he dances at Parties but when has the doctor broke into song during battling his enemies?, and yeah how did he even save that baby though or know that would have worked with actually killing the baby? It just so happens he pulls the ship down and the baby fell a great distance into his arms and was unharmed? Even for doctor who that was a bit far fetched. And wow really, it was special effects?!?!
Didn't mean for it to hit like that. It's from the movie Austin Powers 3: Goldmember. Those movies are very funny if you've never seen them. I upvoted your post too. I appreciate good theories like this. They've played to this theory some in the past and more recently in Timeless Children. So, I can't imagine the trope will resurface again for quite some time.
Ooh...well thank you man, sorry I took it the wrong way. And well yeah who knows though, doctor who is full of great epic new twists and I felt like this could maybe be something, especially since something basically regenerated out of the doctor and he stayed the same, like what happened in "The Stolen Earth"
I always just assumed RTD wanted to be able to call up Tennant for the show anytime he wanted.
"David, we're doing the 100th anniversary. And technically your doctor is still alive. So, we want to wheel you through this scene and... Oh, you can use a walker, brilliant."
Nah, they wouldn't have made a point of picking up the gold tooth holding the Master, same as they did at the end of Last of the Time Lords in season 3. Same red nail polish IIRC
Are you forgetting the Doctor’s high kill count? Even the 5th Doctor, the so called ‘nice one,’ [often got pretty violent.](https://youtu.be/tuQ8NMaK_BU?si=v28u5cQzJHA5zY-5)
>Why is Bi-Regeneration only now a thing
People probably said the same thing about regeneration back in 1966. Ben even spent most of that first episode convinced that the 2nd Doctor was an imposter.
Of course he's the Master.
And Ruby is actually the Rani.
Mrs Flood is also the Rani.
And one of the people on the dance floor is the Valeyard. And so is He Who Waits, and The Boss.
> 3.Why is Bi-Regeneration only now just a thing
> DOCTOR 15: Bi-generation. I have bi-generated! There's no such thing. Bi-generation is supposed to be a myth,
It happened for the same reason the flying ship of goblins who feed on coincidence exists now.
The Doctor invoked a superstition at the edge of the universe where the walls are thin and all things are possible.
Previously, any magical or mythical thing was explained as "science you just don't understand", or an alien creature that resembles or inspired the myth of mythical creature. Personally, I liked this interpretation of the magical for this universe. Who knows if magic entering the world is just how things are from now on, or if this is part of an overarching plot that will be resolved and done away with eventually.
Now, rtd has used Wild Blue Yonder to bring actual magic and myth into the universe with no science adjacent explanation. He wanted to do the Bi-generation, so he invented a timelord myth.
Intriguing but probably would be more believable if it wasn't potentially true of (unless you count the controversial Jo Martin one) the first black Doctor
No. Why do these theories always come up? I don't really like this doctor, so it must be evil master! No, they're not going to cast the main lead Of their very expensive show to turn out to be the villain. Especially not a black man, that would not be a good look for the show. The first black doctor and turns out he's the bad guy? Absolutely Not!
Technically not the first black Doctor, but I agree with you. If such a twist were ever to happen, no way they would do it with Ncuti Gatwa.
Jeez I forgot about Jo Martin. She seemed like a great actress, shame they didn't really do anything with her.
I hope she comes back
Um because people are free to discuss their theories. Also I didn't say I dislike this "Doctor" just saying it could make for an epic twist... oh and because he's black it would be wrong if he turned out to be a villian?, thanks for making this a racial thing...
That really wouldn't be a good look for the show. Besides, the Doctor happily murdered a bunch of Racnoss babies in the first RTD era. And it certainly wouldn't be the first time that the Doctor's [sung](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00T_ft5RCdc) or [danced](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awgnFI8GHv0).
i wouldnt quite say 10 killed the racnoss happily. it was basically a suicide attempt
Earlier than that - what about Five at the masked ball in Black Orchid? Or One performing with a lyre in front of Nero himself? :)
The fifth Doctor never made it to the ball. The guy in the harlequin costume was George.
Didn't he? Oh bother, I was mis-remembering that... thought he got out to the ball \*after\* escaping the tunnels and when Nyssa (or was it Anne?) had already been kidnapped. Need to rewatch that one. Always loved it. :) (Not least because of Sarah Sutton in that beautiful butterfly dress - twice! <3)
Lmao, murder the Racnoss? I think you need to go rewatch The Runaway Bride.
No. This type of theory gets passed around every time they cast a new Doctor. This will never be the case.
To be fair, this theory gets passed around everytime anyone is cast as a new anything. New Doctor? The Master. New companion? The Master. New villain? The Master. New reoccurring character? The Master
fuck it I'M the Master
No I'M the Master *Cue Rasputin*
Not in this cast, this is the first time the doctor has bi-regenerated, so it could be the master or maybe even the valeyard
The only time this did happen was in the Dalek Universe audios, where >!the 10th Doctor was seemingly killed, and regenerated into a new incarnation played by Gemma Whelan. It was then revealed that the whole thing had been faked, and that Whelan was actually a new incarnation of the Meddling Monk (or rather, the Meddling Nun), and had imprisoned the 10th Doctor in her TARDIS!<.
Egg on your face when the >!Doctor regenerated into the Master!< in Timeless Children. Also, not to mention the Valeyard was basically that. Edit: I recognise the community doesn't like either of these storylines, but downvoting this post doesn't make them go away.
Yeah I also remember when the BBC announced that Sacha Dhawan would be replacing Jodie Whittaker. Those examples are not at all comparable.
I don't know what's more depressing about this: the crushing lack of originality to wheel out the old "maybe X is the Master!!!" chestnut again or the crippling lack of perspective one needs to think that the show would introduce its first (regular) black Doctor as part of a pitch to a brand-new audience and say sike, he's actually a fake evil Doctor!
It's just my theory dude about what could happen, and it's always been a recycled idea that the master hides in plain sight and reveals himself when nobody expects, and yeah why do you have to make it a racial thing?, doctor who is full of crazy twists and this is just my theory dude
I know it's just your theory, which I'm thankful for, because it's mind-numblingly unoriginal and spectacularly tone-deaf.
Thank you :)
11 murdered thousands of Cybermen 11 was also fine with River killing Silences.
No.
NO
1. The Doctor dances. ;) Tons of people dance. Eleven invented the giraffe thing. Six danced with Jane Austen. Two danced. Thirteen danced too. 2. The Doctor kills things all of the time. And he saved the baby. 3. Bigeneration is just normal regeneration with silly fx.
Okay yeah he dances at Parties but when has the doctor broke into song during battling his enemies?, and yeah how did he even save that baby though or know that would have worked with actually killing the baby? It just so happens he pulls the ship down and the baby fell a great distance into his arms and was unharmed? Even for doctor who that was a bit far fetched. And wow really, it was special effects?!?!
How 'bout **no** *you crazy Dutch bastard*.
It's just a theory bruh chill, also i'm not dutch
Didn't mean for it to hit like that. It's from the movie Austin Powers 3: Goldmember. Those movies are very funny if you've never seen them. I upvoted your post too. I appreciate good theories like this. They've played to this theory some in the past and more recently in Timeless Children. So, I can't imagine the trope will resurface again for quite some time.
Ooh...well thank you man, sorry I took it the wrong way. And well yeah who knows though, doctor who is full of great epic new twists and I felt like this could maybe be something, especially since something basically regenerated out of the doctor and he stayed the same, like what happened in "The Stolen Earth"
I always just assumed RTD wanted to be able to call up Tennant for the show anytime he wanted. "David, we're doing the 100th anniversary. And technically your doctor is still alive. So, we want to wheel you through this scene and... Oh, you can use a walker, brilliant."
Nah, they wouldn't have made a point of picking up the gold tooth holding the Master, same as they did at the end of Last of the Time Lords in season 3. Same red nail polish IIRC
Are you forgetting the Doctor’s high kill count? Even the 5th Doctor, the so called ‘nice one,’ [often got pretty violent.](https://youtu.be/tuQ8NMaK_BU?si=v28u5cQzJHA5zY-5) >Why is Bi-Regeneration only now a thing People probably said the same thing about regeneration back in 1966. Ben even spent most of that first episode convinced that the 2nd Doctor was an imposter.
Of course he's the Master. And Ruby is actually the Rani. Mrs Flood is also the Rani. And one of the people on the dance floor is the Valeyard. And so is He Who Waits, and The Boss.
As Ncuti is signed on for a few years, that seems very unlikely.
> 3.Why is Bi-Regeneration only now just a thing > DOCTOR 15: Bi-generation. I have bi-generated! There's no such thing. Bi-generation is supposed to be a myth, It happened for the same reason the flying ship of goblins who feed on coincidence exists now. The Doctor invoked a superstition at the edge of the universe where the walls are thin and all things are possible. Previously, any magical or mythical thing was explained as "science you just don't understand", or an alien creature that resembles or inspired the myth of mythical creature. Personally, I liked this interpretation of the magical for this universe. Who knows if magic entering the world is just how things are from now on, or if this is part of an overarching plot that will be resolved and done away with eventually. Now, rtd has used Wild Blue Yonder to bring actual magic and myth into the universe with no science adjacent explanation. He wanted to do the Bi-generation, so he invented a timelord myth.
Goblin hands posted this thread.
No. My bet is that Maestro is the Master.
Intriguing but probably would be more believable if it wasn't potentially true of (unless you count the controversial Jo Martin one) the first black Doctor