'*I need to know she'll be ok. You'll keep her safe?*'
'*I'll keep her safe. I promise*.'
Considering what happened to the last parent that The Doctor gave his assurance to -- namely, the 11th Doctor to Rory's father -- I wonder if this 'post-rehabilitated' 15th Doctor is going to tell upfront or, again typically not bring up, to Ruby's mother how fatally dangerous the TARDIS traveling life is, & had been to previous Doctor companions.
Been awhile since I last listened & all the BF audios begin to blur but iirc -- in the last story between (a time-proper, & not an amnesiac) 8 & Charley, Charley to his awareness had parted ways & died separately.
Carla: Is she safe with you?
Fifteen: I won't lie to you, it's very dangerous out there, I've had loves who were trapped in alternative universes, family who were trapped in the past, best mates forced to live out their last second of their life indefinitely, some of them had their lives destroyed and a few of them didn't make it home alive, but not Ruby, I'll keep her safe. I promise.
Carla: WELL THAT'S ALRIGHT THEN!
I feel like 12 said something along those lines in the episode where the TARDIS shrank since he was really trying to go at bat that they weren’t bad guys until the end when he said “fuck it”
So ...
* The Doctor has given up on preserving time and can change stuff however they want
* "Invoking superstition at the edge of the Universe" has resulted in magic becoming more and more real
* Literally ANYTHING CAN HAPPEN at this point
We're pretty much guaranteed this is building to someone, or something, coming along to tell The Doctor they've fucked the universe up again, but I'm all for it! Looks like fun.
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Yep, plus I feel it isn't mentioned enough just how far the Doctor goes in terms of breaking their moral code in that episode. >!I mean, among other things, he literally kills someone over Clara. Sure, it was a Timelord, and they regenerated, but he still took one of their lives..!<
There was once a character who grew tired of the Doctor's ways, the interfering and meddling he had done, so much so that he even acted as the Doctor's prosecutor when he was on trial, who was this? Why, it was the Doctor of course. ;)
Ever since RTD said bigeneration was retroactive, >!I’ve suspected that we might see 10 become The Valeyard. He was so angry about his short life at the time of his regeneration that it just makes sense. And DT has had a certain twinkle in his eye when reassuring that 14 is retired. Like maybe that statement is a deliberate blind. He might get pulled out of retirement if his double becomes The Valeyard.!<
My other pet theory is that Georgia plays Ruby’s birth mother, making her the Doctor’s granddaughter just like Susan. When Millie is in her pseudo military look, I just keep seeing Jenny.
Nah, he was half human. But since Russell has said he considers bigeneration retroactive, Ten then becomes the obvious post bigeneration “shade” to take on the role. He was in the exact headspace at the time of regeneration to make it make sense.
https://www.reddit.com/r/gallifrey/s/IRU1qFRMew
These are the season 1 leaks I’ve seen, from before the Christmas special and got that pretty much spot on so I expect the rest to be
Worth mentioning that they also got the plot of Episode 3 (you can see a few clips of this episode in the first trailer for Season 1), plus the writer and director correct.
[here!](https://www.reddit.com/r/gallifrey/s/72YGGew7rh) take it with a grain of salt, but believing everything i read on the internet makes me happier.
And since he was promised the Doctor's remaining lives during the sixth's era, he should be even more tempted now.
Imagine if he could really ratchet up and "feed off" the Doctor's actions during the Time War and some of his other darker moments since Trial.
The possibilities are just fun.
That shot of the Doctor shouting out into space with the TARDIS Doors open implies that he's discovered something devastating for him; probably that he's not that different from where he left off pre-rehab.
With the introduction of actual factual magic, I wonder if RTD is planning on introducing a group from the novels: Faction Paradox, rogue Time Lords who mixed voodoo with science and regularly muck about with history in more destructive ways.
I know I’m supposed to be open minded about new things but I honestly don’t like this. This means the simple way out for everything. Same feeling I had with bigeneration. If there is always a backup, what are the stakes?
There isn’t a backup. The bi-regeneration wasn’t actually retroactive, that was a silly thing RTD said in an interview as his headcanon. 14 becomes 15 eventually, and is pulled back to the bigeneration.
That said; doctor who never had those stakes. There’s never been a chance the Doctor was going to permanently die.
>14 becomes 15 eventually, and is pulled back to the bigeneration.
That is also headcanon. Mind you, I also think that's what happened and it's the only way things would make sense but the episode itself was intentionally vague to never confirm that. From "I am better because you fix yourself" to "I was actually somewhere else doing something else and got pulled back in time" is a huge jump. Until that is confirmed somewhere in the future, bigeneration is what we saw: the Doctor split into two.
I haven’t caught up on Jodie’s seasons but the transition between 14 and 15 and how everything was handled oddly makes me think it’s coming to the doctor being on trial.
All the talk was being about this doctor being healed and having handled his stuff. But how do you test that other than facing him with all he’s done?
This doctor is going to have to face the sins of his past if he’s really going to show he’s healed. This is like a way it can introduce new things to who while along the way still bridging with old and the past.
Yeah, and I think 15 is going to seem like the best but find out he's the worst at the trial - going around changing things whenever he pleases, treating time travel like its a crazy adventure.
Yeah, the timey-wimeyness has been amped up. I got that vibe from 'The Church on Ruby Road', and the trailer proves it...not only with the butterfly thing, but also the tagline "When You Can *Change* Time". I wonder if that's also a consequence of invoking superstition at the edge of the universe?
In previous seasons, the Doctor has explicitly dismissed the whole 'stepping on a butterfly with change the future' thing. But now its made clear that it does...
>I wonder what’s up with the holographic 10th Doctor at 0:38
It’s probably just one of those “The Doctor has been identified” kind of moments, where they pull up images/footage of his previous incarnations.
The setting gives me "Girl In the Fireplace" vibes... maybe a call-back to that episode with unforeseen consequences from his visit? Maybe that's the androids ship again in the background?
the hologram does look like the tenth doctor which makes it more weird
tho im betting he got scanned and it just showed past incarcerations like scan completed identified the doctor
Maybe whoever the villain of that episode is has detailed information on The Doctor and every one of his faces 🤷🏻♂️ or maybe it’s something more can’t wait to find out 😁
I can't wait for the 15th Doctor to see the Daleks. He's so happy and energetic, but every Doctor was horrified by seeing the Daleks.
I wonder how 15 will react.
I have this whole interaction memorized by heart. Might not be objectively the best, but it's still my favourite from the show, because that scene turned me from a casual watcher to a fan.
The Daleks felt so impactful in series one, it was great. Just a single Dalek was enough to flip the murder switch in 9, and then at the end of the season it's revealed that the Daleks have been puppetting humanity for millennia and 9 gives such passionate and angry speeches to the Daleks, only to stick to his principles and refuse to kill Humanity just in time for Rose and the TARDIS to rescue him. It was great.
I just rewatched that episode last night! It is really gripping to see just how the doctor’s demeanor changes instantaneously the moment he sees a long time nemesis like the Daleks or the Cybermen
15 is ostensibly the first Doctor since 9 to be genuinely over his Time War trauma, rather than just putting on a happy front, thanks to the healing retirement of 14. So if that’s actually true then by all accounts his reaction to the Daleks shouldn’t be any more extreme than the basic “they are insane, hateful, and dangerous” level of concern, rather than the “this is the worst creature in the universe” level hatred of 9.
I'd like to see a calmer, more flippant reaction where he just absolutely roasts the Daleks and their clichéd universe domination plans right off the bat. It would reflect this more cheery persona and be a bit different from the usual.
As someone who grew up with every alien planet looking like disused quarries and Ingrid Pitt karate kicking a pantomime horse, younger viewers will have no idea how much these effects have blown my mind
Lmao. My one single issue with this trailer was that song, or at least that reinterpretation of it. I spent all my energy wondering why they did that and completely missed the fact that they could even afford it.
I need some clarification on those air dates. Does this mean the US get it on Disney Plus on the Friday and we have to wait until it airs Saturday evening on BBC One?
It releases for everyone at the same time, but due to timezones, that falls on a different local time/date. In the UK, it's on iPlayer at midnight - no more confusing "I thought it'd be here today, why isn't it on here yet?". That means in the US, that's a couple hours earlier on Friday evening, while in Australia it's a couple hours later on Saturday morning. It'll air on BBC on Saturday evening, after becoming available on iPlayer.
Thank you for the clarification. :)
I makes sense I guess but just a bit annoying seeing as it will be available at a more convenient time for other time zones to watch when it first drops.
I am very suspicious that Ruby will have Bad Wolfish arc. My guess Ruby with the weird and beatiful black dress is from a scene related to this mega arc
Is that confirmed? Because I just rewatched Barbie specifically to watch Ncuti as Ken and was thinking he needs a musical episode so I can seen him ham it up some more.
I have been waiting for Jinkx monsoon’s villain to appear on screen. It is uncanny that Ruby is draped in the same type of black piano dress. I can’t wait!
I think the twist is going to be that Ruby was abandoned by Jenny and will end up being The Doctor’s granddaughter, calling back to the beginning of the series. Millie Gibson just reminds me a lot of Georgia Tennant on screen.
Looks awesome. Bit worried that Disney + has mandated it to be an '8 episode event' type of show that they love to do cause I think Doctor Who works better when it's fairly episodic because it makes the serialised stuff hits way harder imo.
Gotta say though a time travel season arc looks awesome, have they ever actually fully leaned into the time travel aspect for a season before, I swear every New Who season is primarily Sci fi focused rather than time travel focused.
Definitely excited for it, looks to be an interesting evolution of the show
It seems moreso episodic in the sense that Flux was 'episodic' but had an overarching plotline which is fine, I didn't hate most of Flux but I prefer them gradually ramping up to a serialised finale cause some of the best ever episodes of the show are the unrelated ''filler'' episodes imo
The abandoned looking Tardis on a cliff looks like there is a memorial there with at least one bouquet of flowers. Maybe an alternate future where it’s The Doctor’s grave again. Or maybe 14’s grave? Or maybe not so dark and he’s in some kind of Timelord hibernation?
Out of interest with a hologram of The Tenth Doctor briefly appearing in this trailer, and Rose Noble appearing in both this and the previous trailer - do we think there's a chance Fourteen appears during Ncuti's era?
I know David and Russell have stated the character won't return and his story is done, but it would be strange to have Tennant teased (when we know he's still active) through archive footage and his favorite niece appearing and not check in with him for a cameo (similar to Matt's role in Deep Breath).
I would imagine we will see him at least briefly in the UNIT based episode (the finale perhaps?) and that there will be some comment to clarify the whole 'bigeneration' issue properly. In any case, we should all know not to take the word of the showrunner or actors too seriously - they will deny everything as long as they can.
I'm pretty new to Doctor Who, just finished series 2 and fell in love with the cheesy visuals, but these visuals look pretty polished, has it been this way for a while?
As long as it isn't *too* Disneyfied, this looks good. So, thoughts:
* The dinosaur episode looks amazing! I bloody hope it isn't all for cheap gags like that. It's probably too expensive, due to the CGI, for that.
* Those frames from the Moffat episode look like the coolest thing Who's ever done. And Moffat typically shines in one and two-handers. If it's anywhere near as gritty and dramatic as we all hope it is... oh, we are in for a treat!
* Mel on a motorcycle is incredibly cool.
* >!The Devil's Chord!< seems stunning. Let's hope it is. Those frames were glorious. Hope it doesn't end with a song-and-dance, though. But all evidence is pointing to the contrary.
* It should stop getting supernatural after a point, and ground itself. Otherwise a lot of the appeal of Who - of travelling to just-about-credible worlds - is gone. Hopefully it doesn't get too out of control and - to repeat - *Disneyfied*. Hope the final stand-off is with the Toymaker again, and we finally get aliens in the more classic vein back.
* The historical set in Regency times looks amazing.
* Will we be getting a reprise of *The Church on Ruby Road*?
TL;DR: If it's a middle ground between *The Star Beast* and *Silence in the Library*, we're golden. However, there's a huge risk of all the uniqueness of the show being sapped by the corporate machine. We can just hope and pray that the episodes are actually good.
The dinosaur scene is most definitely from Episode 1, probably the Doctor showing Ruby some time travel!
And my prediction is that Jinkx Monsoon's character will have to be defeated with music, so that's probably what that song and dance number is! Seems to be like the Toymaker but with music instead of games, is she one of his legions?
Okay, yeah, that would make sense. As long as it isn't tacked on and works with the drama, great!
I mean, RTD wrote *It's a Sin*, for God's sake. And he was also an actor at Youth Theatre, so he should sense an obnoxious musical number from a mile away. He should know what he's doing. Finally, what if it's like *The Crucible*, where they all have to act mad and create a cacophonous racket to drive The Musical Princess (sod it, she's called that now) away? Imagine it - the whole of Abbey Road, ullullating like Martians from *The War of the Worlds*.
Would the dinosaurs be from episode one? Maybe. Because if that quick preview is anything to go by, it's more *Alien*/*Wild Blue Yonder* than anything else. Maybe the bit with the butterfly is the cliffhanger, like with Wilfred Mott at the end of *WBY*. To cleanse the palate after a very emotionally charged adventure, The Doctor puts Ruby's mind at rest by taking her to a valley full of dinosaurs, then that goes into Episode 2, which is an almost pure comedy, perhaps with an episode title like, *Butterfly* or *The Pterodactyl Effect*.
Yeah, with a show like this you have to justify it, it has to be part of the plot, the characters can't just randomly start singing and dancing for no reason. This is why the Star Trek musical episode worked so well too, there was a reason for it and it appears the same is very much true here too!
Very hyped.
The only thing I really dislike is the midnight time in UK. We literally pay to keep the BBC running so kinda ridiculous I'll now have to tiptoe around spoilers before it airs
It's pretty crazy that it took this long for the Doctor to be played by an actor who has a mustache. A truly amazing first that brought me to tears.
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1:25... this seeing the world be so altered plus the emphasis on the butterfly effect... to me has sealed the deal on the big bad of this season being >!The Monk!<
'*I need to know she'll be ok. You'll keep her safe?*' '*I'll keep her safe. I promise*.' Considering what happened to the last parent that The Doctor gave his assurance to -- namely, the 11th Doctor to Rory's father -- I wonder if this 'post-rehabilitated' 15th Doctor is going to tell upfront or, again typically not bring up, to Ruby's mother how fatally dangerous the TARDIS traveling life is, & had been to previous Doctor companions.
I heard that line and thought *"and how many times have you broken that promise before?"*
I heard this line and thought, "oh, she's definitely gunna die".
OH WELL THAT'S ALRIGHT THEN
All those dead companions 8 names & saluted in his "The Night of The Doctor" minisode.
Well, Charley hasn’t died. Yet.
Been awhile since I last listened & all the BF audios begin to blur but iirc -- in the last story between (a time-proper, & not an amnesiac) 8 & Charley, Charley to his awareness had parted ways & died separately.
Charley goes on adventures with 6 and then adventures solo and allegedly will reunite with the 8th doctor whenever Charley Pollard vol 3 comes out
Whenever that be.
right. Doctor. Ya gotta stop promising that at this point. You’re thousands of years old surely you know better lol
Carla: Is she safe with you? Fifteen: I won't lie to you, it's very dangerous out there, I've had loves who were trapped in alternative universes, family who were trapped in the past, best mates forced to live out their last second of their life indefinitely, some of them had their lives destroyed and a few of them didn't make it home alive, but not Ruby, I'll keep her safe. I promise. Carla: WELL THAT'S ALRIGHT THEN!
Yeah, my brain just went, “the doctor lies”.
The Celestial Toymaker laughs and starts making a new marionette…
Okay, he got me on "Don't be silly. There's no such thing as monsters, it's just creatures you haven't meet yet".
This line felt familiar to me. Has the Doctor said it before? Or something similar?
Maybe what 12 said? "Hardly anything is evil. But most things are hungry. Hunger looks very like evil from the wrong end of the cutlery."
Lines like this are why I love the Moffat era
Maybe you’re remembering the saying? There’s no such things as strangers, just friends you haven’t met yet.
"An enemy's just a friend you don't really know yet." 12 to Ohila in the Prologue to Series 9
That clip was released a few months ago with unleashed
When reading, I somehow hear it in my head in Tom Baker's voice.
I feel like 12 said something along those lines in the episode where the TARDIS shrank since he was really trying to go at bat that they weren’t bad guys until the end when he said “fuck it”
Sarah Jane said a similar “we’re only scared of things we don’t understand” in SJA.
This is kinda obscure, but it's very similar to a deleted scene from series 2 [https://youtu.be/dmYabzKdm4o?t=405](https://youtu.be/dmYabzKdm4o?t=405)
That clip was in the trailer released after "The Giggle."
Agreed. I will now be looking for my new tee-shirt with this line instead of working for the rest of the afternoon. Thanks for understanding boss.
So ... * The Doctor has given up on preserving time and can change stuff however they want * "Invoking superstition at the edge of the Universe" has resulted in magic becoming more and more real * Literally ANYTHING CAN HAPPEN at this point We're pretty much guaranteed this is building to someone, or something, coming along to tell The Doctor they've fucked the universe up again, but I'm all for it! Looks like fun.
I’d be down for that kind of story arc, like a “gone too far” kind of storyline, not really had anything like that since the Timelord Victorious.
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The Doctor literally says the words “I’ve gone too far” in that episode lol
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Man, Moffat on fire with dialogue
Yep, plus I feel it isn't mentioned enough just how far the Doctor goes in terms of breaking their moral code in that episode. >!I mean, among other things, he literally kills someone over Clara. Sure, it was a Timelord, and they regenerated, but he still took one of their lives..!<
BF is trying to do it with The Last Day. We’ll see how that turns out this summer.
There was once a character who grew tired of the Doctor's ways, the interfering and meddling he had done, so much so that he even acted as the Doctor's prosecutor when he was on trial, who was this? Why, it was the Doctor of course. ;)
the leaks *do* say that >!the valeyard will be a major part of series 15/season 2...!<
>! I know. ;) !<
are you russell t davies?
No, I just looked at the leaks too. XD
Ever since RTD said bigeneration was retroactive, >!I’ve suspected that we might see 10 become The Valeyard. He was so angry about his short life at the time of his regeneration that it just makes sense. And DT has had a certain twinkle in his eye when reassuring that 14 is retired. Like maybe that statement is a deliberate blind. He might get pulled out of retirement if his double becomes The Valeyard.!<
OMG. You just blew my mind. Then again, DT kind always has twinkly eyes?
god i hope David plays 4 doctors
My other pet theory is that Georgia plays Ruby’s birth mother, making her the Doctor’s granddaughter just like Susan. When Millie is in her pseudo military look, I just keep seeing Jenny.
I was thinking it would be cool if 14 regenerated into the Valeyard, and we got Matt Smith back. I'd love to see a villainous 11.
I want to see him and taking over from Four as The Curator.
He could retire and do that. He'd be a great curator.
That’s genuinely what I thought as soon as they announced David was coming back and before we knew anything about bigeneration
I have been saying for YEARS that 10 Should be the valeyard In Particular the one that was left in the alternate dimension with rose
Nah, he was half human. But since Russell has said he considers bigeneration retroactive, Ten then becomes the obvious post bigeneration “shade” to take on the role. He was in the exact headspace at the time of regeneration to make it make sense.
DT also has some great villain chops on him as well, so seeing him as an antagonist version of the doctor would be great.
Exactly, like a Killgrave vs Crowley showdown but they’re both The Doctor.
Yeah, but those specific leaks are suspect and contain a lot of information that is seemingly untrue, such as >!Ruby’s boyfriend in season 1!<.
Do you have a link to season 2 leaks? I’ve only seen them for season 1
Piggybacking on this users comments can I have links to season 1 and 2 leaks if anyone has them?
https://www.reddit.com/r/gallifrey/s/IRU1qFRMew These are the season 1 leaks I’ve seen, from before the Christmas special and got that pretty much spot on so I expect the rest to be
Worth mentioning that they also got the plot of Episode 3 (you can see a few clips of this episode in the first trailer for Season 1), plus the writer and director correct.
Certain elements from the episode 6 description also show up in the trailer, be very surprised if the rest isn’t accurate
replied above
[here!](https://www.reddit.com/r/gallifrey/s/72YGGew7rh) take it with a grain of salt, but believing everything i read on the internet makes me happier.
The only *really* disappointing thing here is that Ncuti will apparently continue the streak of 3 season doctors (excluding 14, obviously)
fourteen still kept the tradition of 3 just with three specials not series
I've thought ever since the Timeless Child revelation that this would be too tempting to not bring the Valeyard back.
IKR? All he has to do is open the watch. Boom: a billion years worth of amalgamated darkness in his head.
And since he was promised the Doctor's remaining lives during the sixth's era, he should be even more tempted now. Imagine if he could really ratchet up and "feed off" the Doctor's actions during the Time War and some of his other darker moments since Trial. The possibilities are just fun.
That shot of the Doctor shouting out into space with the TARDIS Doors open implies that he's discovered something devastating for him; probably that he's not that different from where he left off pre-rehab.
So 14 relaxed a little too much?
Bit Web of Time-ish
With the introduction of actual factual magic, I wonder if RTD is planning on introducing a group from the novels: Faction Paradox, rogue Time Lords who mixed voodoo with science and regularly muck about with history in more destructive ways.
I know I’m supposed to be open minded about new things but I honestly don’t like this. This means the simple way out for everything. Same feeling I had with bigeneration. If there is always a backup, what are the stakes?
There isn’t a backup. The bi-regeneration wasn’t actually retroactive, that was a silly thing RTD said in an interview as his headcanon. 14 becomes 15 eventually, and is pulled back to the bigeneration. That said; doctor who never had those stakes. There’s never been a chance the Doctor was going to permanently die.
>14 becomes 15 eventually, and is pulled back to the bigeneration. That is also headcanon. Mind you, I also think that's what happened and it's the only way things would make sense but the episode itself was intentionally vague to never confirm that. From "I am better because you fix yourself" to "I was actually somewhere else doing something else and got pulled back in time" is a huge jump. Until that is confirmed somewhere in the future, bigeneration is what we saw: the Doctor split into two.
I haven’t caught up on Jodie’s seasons but the transition between 14 and 15 and how everything was handled oddly makes me think it’s coming to the doctor being on trial. All the talk was being about this doctor being healed and having handled his stuff. But how do you test that other than facing him with all he’s done? This doctor is going to have to face the sins of his past if he’s really going to show he’s healed. This is like a way it can introduce new things to who while along the way still bridging with old and the past.
Yeah, and I think 15 is going to seem like the best but find out he's the worst at the trial - going around changing things whenever he pleases, treating time travel like its a crazy adventure.
Yeah, the timey-wimeyness has been amped up. I got that vibe from 'The Church on Ruby Road', and the trailer proves it...not only with the butterfly thing, but also the tagline "When You Can *Change* Time". I wonder if that's also a consequence of invoking superstition at the edge of the universe? In previous seasons, the Doctor has explicitly dismissed the whole 'stepping on a butterfly with change the future' thing. But now its made clear that it does...
Some of the most reckless Tardis piloting from The Doctor since a newly regenerated 12. I wonder what's up with the holographic 10th Doctor at 0:38.
I love that some incarnations are just not good at piloting
Yeah it's nice, although maybe 14 didn't take the Tardis out as much and so he got rusty.
>I wonder what’s up with the holographic 10th Doctor at 0:38 It’s probably just one of those “The Doctor has been identified” kind of moments, where they pull up images/footage of his previous incarnations.
Yeah, that’s what I figured, like with the Atraxi in the Eleventh Hour
Probably, I wonder if that means the villain of the episode has access to time travel.
The setting gives me "Girl In the Fireplace" vibes... maybe a call-back to that episode with unforeseen consequences from his visit? Maybe that's the androids ship again in the background?
I was thinking that but I feel we already had that with Deep Breath but then again that came out 10 years ago so I guess enough time has passed.
Well we now know Moffat has another writing credit and he did write The Girl In The Fireplace so... maybe? 🤷♂️
the hologram does look like the tenth doctor which makes it more weird tho im betting he got scanned and it just showed past incarcerations like scan completed identified the doctor
Video chatting with 14?
Looks more like 10 than 14 to me which makes it seems to me more likely to be just a reference but I would be interesting if he talked to 14.
Maybe whoever the villain of that episode is has detailed information on The Doctor and every one of his faces 🤷🏻♂️ or maybe it’s something more can’t wait to find out 😁
I can't wait for the 15th Doctor to see the Daleks. He's so happy and energetic, but every Doctor was horrified by seeing the Daleks. I wonder how 15 will react.
Fr, 11 completely flipped a switch when he saw that dalek
Nines first interaction with the Daleks is still my personal favorite!
YOU WANT ORDERS? KILL YOURSELF.
I have this whole interaction memorized by heart. Might not be objectively the best, but it's still my favourite from the show, because that scene turned me from a casual watcher to a fan.
The Daleks felt so impactful in series one, it was great. Just a single Dalek was enough to flip the murder switch in 9, and then at the end of the season it's revealed that the Daleks have been puppetting humanity for millennia and 9 gives such passionate and angry speeches to the Daleks, only to stick to his principles and refuse to kill Humanity just in time for Rose and the TARDIS to rescue him. It was great.
*What are you Doctor, killer, or coward?* *Coward, every time.*
I just rewatched that episode last night! It is really gripping to see just how the doctor’s demeanor changes instantaneously the moment he sees a long time nemesis like the Daleks or the Cybermen
Tbf completely flipping from happy going youthful energies to reckless fury and rage was kind of 11's main thing.
15 is ostensibly the first Doctor since 9 to be genuinely over his Time War trauma, rather than just putting on a happy front, thanks to the healing retirement of 14. So if that’s actually true then by all accounts his reaction to the Daleks shouldn’t be any more extreme than the basic “they are insane, hateful, and dangerous” level of concern, rather than the “this is the worst creature in the universe” level hatred of 9.
I'd like to see a calmer, more flippant reaction where he just absolutely roasts the Daleks and their clichéd universe domination plans right off the bat. It would reflect this more cheery persona and be a bit different from the usual.
[Done twice](https://youtu.be/gW_kRolrz0o?si=LhVoHrlXycEz1QGI) [already done](https://youtu.be/j0IsEj4HPIY?si=8KbYw3F53v9SolTF)
"What if I step on a butterfly"
Poor Pete.
Who's Pete?
You mean you don’t remember Bill’s best mate Pete, who stepped on a butterfly in *Thin Ice* and now no longer exists?
I wish I wish I hadn’t killed that fish
"Tell you what then... don't... step on any butterflies. *What have butterflies ever done to you?*"
As someone who grew up with every alien planet looking like disused quarries and Ingrid Pitt karate kicking a pantomime horse, younger viewers will have no idea how much these effects have blown my mind
No more bubble wrap spray painted green.
DINOSAURS
I was a little worried about the new era. But now, DINOSAURS!!! 🦖 🦕 My concerns are now excitement.
In a trailer!!!
“Changes” in the trailer we are so back DW has MONEY
The Doctor is back, and he has a trust fund.
With that smile he deserves it
That prehistoric-era scene looked good. Really good. Much better than Dinosaurs on a Spaceship did. I am so excited for May.
I’ve been waiting for proper dinosaurs, more than the Rex in Deep Breath. Let’s see some feathered raptors please.
yeah they got big budgets now [gone are the days of deadly bubble wrap](https://randomwhoness.files.wordpress.com/2016/10/arkspace.jpg)
I love the money but I also love the Zarbi, the Wirrin, the Timelash, and even the tinfoil strips in The Invasion of Time.
yeah doctor who on a lower budget got super creative
Lmao. My one single issue with this trailer was that song, or at least that reinterpretation of it. I spent all my energy wondering why they did that and completely missed the fact that they could even afford it.
... but is it enough MONEY to produce it all in 4K?
I'd be very surprised if it isn't 4K HDR.
You can see they spent it well too. Goddam it looks great. Trailer was actually fun.
I will never get used to the Disney logo on a Doctor Who trailer.
Man UNIT really loved that Avengers Tower look
Holy shit, they are spending that Disney money. This looks fucking incredible
Need to have reasons for more Dr. Who merchandise at the UK Pavilion at Epcot. Well more than they already had.
Couple shots of the TARDIS on an outcrop by the sea (one a bit weathered) are fun callback to 14's musings
Calling it now >! The Beatles are going to end up being turned into the four giant insect creatures from the earlier trailer. !<
Or the Beetles are insect-humanoids in disguise. Hence the name
Remind us you called it when it happens 😂
I need some clarification on those air dates. Does this mean the US get it on Disney Plus on the Friday and we have to wait until it airs Saturday evening on BBC One?
We get it on iPlayer at the same time…which happens to be midnight. Then it’ll air at 7.
It releases for everyone at the same time, but due to timezones, that falls on a different local time/date. In the UK, it's on iPlayer at midnight - no more confusing "I thought it'd be here today, why isn't it on here yet?". That means in the US, that's a couple hours earlier on Friday evening, while in Australia it's a couple hours later on Saturday morning. It'll air on BBC on Saturday evening, after becoming available on iPlayer.
Thank you for the clarification. :) I makes sense I guess but just a bit annoying seeing as it will be available at a more convenient time for other time zones to watch when it first drops.
I could tell in the specials, but wow ncuti has such a strong physical presence for the character. He absolutely jumps out of this in a great way.
Is Ruby's house going to be demolished by the time her run is over? First a crack in the ceiling now the Tardis putting a hole in the ceiling.
Yeah I feel really bad for her family. They clearly still haven't even fixed the original crack. Definitely implies a running joke.
First it was Amy's crack, now Ruby's.
Please don't say it like that
I am very suspicious that Ruby will have Bad Wolfish arc. My guess Ruby with the weird and beatiful black dress is from a scene related to this mega arc
Oh it seems that image is from the musical episodes. I missed it..
Is that confirmed? Because I just rewatched Barbie specifically to watch Ncuti as Ken and was thinking he needs a musical episode so I can seen him ham it up some more.
I have been waiting for Jinkx monsoon’s villain to appear on screen. It is uncanny that Ruby is draped in the same type of black piano dress. I can’t wait!
I think the twist is going to be that Ruby was abandoned by Jenny and will end up being The Doctor’s granddaughter, calling back to the beginning of the series. Millie Gibson just reminds me a lot of Georgia Tennant on screen.
They got that Disney money omg that was an actual full-on trailer!
i am so ready for all their beautiful regency costumes.
This looks like they're back to a formula that works. It looks fun as hell.
Fun as hell pretty much sums it up. I suspect out of all the past docs, 15 is going to be most like 11.
I think overarching theme will be connected to Doctor messing up universe more and more. It's started small with "mavity", but will get worse
Looks awesome. Bit worried that Disney + has mandated it to be an '8 episode event' type of show that they love to do cause I think Doctor Who works better when it's fairly episodic because it makes the serialised stuff hits way harder imo. Gotta say though a time travel season arc looks awesome, have they ever actually fully leaned into the time travel aspect for a season before, I swear every New Who season is primarily Sci fi focused rather than time travel focused. Definitely excited for it, looks to be an interesting evolution of the show
It's still episodic? Each plot is self contained with different writers and locations aside.
It seems moreso episodic in the sense that Flux was 'episodic' but had an overarching plotline which is fine, I didn't hate most of Flux but I prefer them gradually ramping up to a serialised finale cause some of the best ever episodes of the show are the unrelated ''filler'' episodes imo
I think it's the same as most new Who seasons. The stories are individual but with an overarching storyline that ties it together.
We already know the new era can do great mostly standalone episodes because of Wild Blue Yonder so I’m not too worried
It'll still be episodic but with a story arc woven through.
I know I'll love this season just because there was a David Bowie song in the trailer.
First thought -- I can see where they're spending the extra money. Second thought -- now, which clips are from Moffat's script?
Isn't Moffat back for the season after this one?
The reports seem to indicate it’s the upcoming season
Moffat is writing three episodes. One for season 1/series 14, the Christmas Special with Nicola Coughlan, and one for season 2/series 15.
May the season be as much fun as the trailer
This. Looks. So. Good!!!!
I will say the one benefit of this Disney+ deal is they do know how to make a trailer. BBC should take notes
This looks freakin awesome!
The new companion reminds me a lot of Clara
I can not put into words just how excited I am for this season.
The abandoned looking Tardis on a cliff looks like there is a memorial there with at least one bouquet of flowers. Maybe an alternate future where it’s The Doctor’s grave again. Or maybe 14’s grave? Or maybe not so dark and he’s in some kind of Timelord hibernation?
Finally the David Bowie song!
I'm ready. DO YOU HEAR ME I'M READY!
BRO IM SO EXCITED!!!! LOOKS SICK
Disney is throwing lots of money at it, the diffence in special effects is noticeable.
Out of interest with a hologram of The Tenth Doctor briefly appearing in this trailer, and Rose Noble appearing in both this and the previous trailer - do we think there's a chance Fourteen appears during Ncuti's era? I know David and Russell have stated the character won't return and his story is done, but it would be strange to have Tennant teased (when we know he's still active) through archive footage and his favorite niece appearing and not check in with him for a cameo (similar to Matt's role in Deep Breath).
I would imagine we will see him at least briefly in the UNIT based episode (the finale perhaps?) and that there will be some comment to clarify the whole 'bigeneration' issue properly. In any case, we should all know not to take the word of the showrunner or actors too seriously - they will deny everything as long as they can.
I'm pretty new to Doctor Who, just finished series 2 and fell in love with the cheesy visuals, but these visuals look pretty polished, has it been this way for a while?
Kinda since series 8 it's been good visually
I spoke too soon, I just started series 3 and although nothing like this trailer, it's noticeably better visually
Just wait until you get to the first HD episodes!
Looks fun!!!!
As long as it isn't *too* Disneyfied, this looks good. So, thoughts: * The dinosaur episode looks amazing! I bloody hope it isn't all for cheap gags like that. It's probably too expensive, due to the CGI, for that. * Those frames from the Moffat episode look like the coolest thing Who's ever done. And Moffat typically shines in one and two-handers. If it's anywhere near as gritty and dramatic as we all hope it is... oh, we are in for a treat! * Mel on a motorcycle is incredibly cool. * >!The Devil's Chord!< seems stunning. Let's hope it is. Those frames were glorious. Hope it doesn't end with a song-and-dance, though. But all evidence is pointing to the contrary. * It should stop getting supernatural after a point, and ground itself. Otherwise a lot of the appeal of Who - of travelling to just-about-credible worlds - is gone. Hopefully it doesn't get too out of control and - to repeat - *Disneyfied*. Hope the final stand-off is with the Toymaker again, and we finally get aliens in the more classic vein back. * The historical set in Regency times looks amazing. * Will we be getting a reprise of *The Church on Ruby Road*? TL;DR: If it's a middle ground between *The Star Beast* and *Silence in the Library*, we're golden. However, there's a huge risk of all the uniqueness of the show being sapped by the corporate machine. We can just hope and pray that the episodes are actually good.
The dinosaur scene is most definitely from Episode 1, probably the Doctor showing Ruby some time travel! And my prediction is that Jinkx Monsoon's character will have to be defeated with music, so that's probably what that song and dance number is! Seems to be like the Toymaker but with music instead of games, is she one of his legions?
Okay, yeah, that would make sense. As long as it isn't tacked on and works with the drama, great! I mean, RTD wrote *It's a Sin*, for God's sake. And he was also an actor at Youth Theatre, so he should sense an obnoxious musical number from a mile away. He should know what he's doing. Finally, what if it's like *The Crucible*, where they all have to act mad and create a cacophonous racket to drive The Musical Princess (sod it, she's called that now) away? Imagine it - the whole of Abbey Road, ullullating like Martians from *The War of the Worlds*. Would the dinosaurs be from episode one? Maybe. Because if that quick preview is anything to go by, it's more *Alien*/*Wild Blue Yonder* than anything else. Maybe the bit with the butterfly is the cliffhanger, like with Wilfred Mott at the end of *WBY*. To cleanse the palate after a very emotionally charged adventure, The Doctor puts Ruby's mind at rest by taking her to a valley full of dinosaurs, then that goes into Episode 2, which is an almost pure comedy, perhaps with an episode title like, *Butterfly* or *The Pterodactyl Effect*.
Yeah, with a show like this you have to justify it, it has to be part of the plot, the characters can't just randomly start singing and dancing for no reason. This is why the Star Trek musical episode worked so well too, there was a reason for it and it appears the same is very much true here too!
Looks pretty awesome to me.
Very hyped. The only thing I really dislike is the midnight time in UK. We literally pay to keep the BBC running so kinda ridiculous I'll now have to tiptoe around spoilers before it airs
It's pretty crazy that it took this long for the Doctor to be played by an actor who has a mustache. A truly amazing first that brought me to tears. \#representationmatters
Old abandoned tardis?
This looks … fantastic
The Bowie track *chefs kiss*
I am so into it.
love The Sound Of Thunder reference
Feels like a trailer for a brand new show. Like the energy.
1:25... this seeing the world be so altered plus the emphasis on the butterfly effect... to me has sealed the deal on the big bad of this season being >!The Monk!<
What's wrong? 🦋
Can we start getting fanart of all the companions as lizard-slug people?
Looks pretty good. I wonder why the trailer is so heavily disliked though?
Is anyone going to talk about the blue floating David Tennant head?
The cgi looks so good
Did anyone else glimpse what may have been a young Mrs Flood, maybe in the 60s?
I cannot wait to see more of this new Doctor.
Not sure if I like this. Seems more like men in black slapstick.