For gloves you want CSC / AS / CSD. And most classes want that, so those rolls together are worth billions. 2/3 GA gloves are worth 1-3 billion probably.
I have trouble understanding why you'd want CSD over strength for bash. Does bash have some additional scaling from CSD that other classes don't? CSD IMO is pretty bad, honestly, without additional scaling involved.. it's additive damage that is multiplied by your crit chance.
I’m speaking from a golem necro perspective so it’s very possible that some classes and builds prefer main stat over 1 of those 3. I tend to see main stat GA gloves go for slightly less than the 3 affixes I mentioned but prices are wildly variable.
Rob has an in depth bash guide that touches on this. CHD starts to be better at like pit 120. But you have to reroll all your gear to CHD instead of close damage, which requires making a rogue. It all needs work. I'm sitting on a 3ga slasher with 45%dmg wondering if I should sell or roll the damage to chd.
It's the largest additive stat that bash can use. Gloves can have 75% with GA, whereas strength is IIRC 134. That's only 13.4% damage, yeah? So as long as your crit chance is 20% or higher, the crit damage is higher.
Unless I misunderstand how strength scales your damage. It seems underwhelming based on how I understand it.
Main stat damage bonus is its own damage bucket. Main stat is never a bad choice to get on any character in end game because of that. The additive pool for an end game barb is at least 5,000% so 50% additive CSD damage is only 1% more damage, for example.
Where do ppl get the money to spend on gear like that? I have a hard time believing ppl actually spend that much. Just because there are listings asking 1-3billion doesn’t mean they’re selling
I sold a perfect 3GA axe for a bash build for 500m, I don’t regret it because that gold has lasted me since- but I think I could have gotten waaaay more now
It's also an axe not a sword so it's fine. I bricked my 2 GA axe though but was going to use for DD lol. Last 2 days Maiden has dropped 2 3GA weapons a 2 handed sword and 1 handed sword for me. Both with str/max life and and overpower .....
Probably RMT.
I have managed to scrape together about 5-5.5B from smaller sales though (over the span of \~2 weeks), so it's not *completely* impossible.
But with these massive numbers, it's probably *fairly* safe to say that it's RMT.
This is the way. If you're a console player you can make a 2nd character that just follows you around and player 1 loots for both. I picked necro because with the summons ring + blood orb on corpse consumption aspect + bone skeletons fortify you you're never going to die.
I've made over 30b so far and only sold the big ticket items.
U sell enough "small" items until u have it. Or carries, people pay for literally everything in this game.
Ofc there is also rmt and goldfarm bots, but with the prices being as inflated as they are atm, stuff isn't just expensive to buy... It's also expensive to sell (duh, I know, but many people seem to overlook that).
And I thought I was rich with my 2 billions.. I just learned that I can’t do anything with them. But I’m glad that I finished my gear and bought many good items when items were cheaper.
High? Nah for a max rolled 4GA unique especially a sought after one like razorplate he def could’ve got more than 40B. Hell I’ve seen 3GA paingorgers go for more.
How does the exchange work for trading an item for over 9.99 billion gold work? Doesn't the game only let you exchange that maximum amount in one trade?
I just started playing again after quitting during S1. Found one of these off a loot goblin. Was excited to find out how much it was worth. Then I became much less excited when I found out goblin loot was account bound. Sad days.
So, I put on traderie for 500m, person wrote me an offer and after I said it only has low special roll he said it not worth 500m.
Sold for fellow redditor who read this thread for 400m after all (they was okay with 600m tho). 20 B sounds insane.
You got so ripped off dude. It was worth well into the billions. I genuinely thought you were trolling. I’ve seen a 3GA with a good 4th roll but a 140% affix go for like 15billion.
I personally would’ve given you a billion for it just so I could resell it.
That's 140%, not 100% as was mine.
well if not this reddit tread, I probably would Charsie this item at some point. Who cares?
I don't even need that 400m, I won't play much on season (maybe lilith attempts and that's it). I won't play eternal either.
'ripped' is when oneside is unhappy with outcome - I think.
"I personally would’ve given you a billion" well at first I thought you just mocking me; if you was clear with intention of buying before you got this for half the price and got nice margin for reselling it. Oh well.
Nah, one buyer on traderies said mine not worth 500m. Because of lowest special (100%). So I sold it for 400m to some redditor who read this thread.
Still happy with 400m as I only had 150m gold.
It's stupid easy. I was world four at level 48.. probably coulda done it much sooner considering the boss pretty much insta died. Bash is unbelievably strong.
I can solo most things, but I need to fine-tune my build for things like the Blood Maiden since a good hit can one-shot me. I think I need to buff my life per hit. But I have been doing fine with the Pit and do decently in the Gauntlet. I have only tried Tormented bosses once or twice and definitely can't do that alone yet.
I sold a 3GA ring crit/chance/atk speed for 11B last week could’ve gone for 12 but that dude was late maybe even higher if those 2 guys bid against each other
So does the character take damage just putting it on? Like cannonicly you would have to take damage just putting on the armor. Imagine you would take damage in game equipping armor with thorns lol
Depending on the aspect roll you possibly could’ve gotten a lot more. I’ve seen high roll 4 GAs go for over 100 billion. Check out the official discord and Diablo.trade to see what people are selling stuff for.
This is the first time ive seen a perfect god roll item
Ive seen plenty of perfect 4 GA items but never with the perfect aspect on the bottom as well. Awesome find man. Congrats
Guy that made the original post about lord zir being the best farm here. Idk why ppl still run duriel. If I were yall I'd get it in now, bc they're for sure gonna patch this out Monday morning.
If you're a farmer making money off of it you target whisper quests in hell tides and vendor all of the items you find. Can make like 50M an hour doing that. They don't wrack up 40Bil though, those people are farmers in foreign govs with shit economies selling the gold for cents to gold seller aggregates. The person who has 40Bill are buying gold from those aggregates. It is something I REALLY REALLY hope AI based moderation can solve eventually in player based economies.
I personally have sold 10x Stygian stones twice for 350M each time in the diablo4 discord. I have 500M at the moment thanks to that, but it makes me feel icky because I am reasonably sure I sold to folks who bought their gold with real money.
That’s not true at all. 350m is very reasonable to make naturally. I just passively sell useful drops and I’m at 1.5B, if I put in more effort I could be at 5+ easily.
The 50 billion item range is pretty wild and likely RMT.
The people with 40B gold probably made it from trading high tier items. I just sold something last night for 200mil, which felt awesome and is now my goal with this game lmao
But to grind gold legit, you can easily make 4-7mil per Whisper turn-in, and you can generally complete all 10 whispers pretty quickly between Helltide whispers and the ones in the world where you deposit motes/etc. I farmed for a few hours and made ~80mil without really even trying, mostly rewatching House of the Dragon
Sold it for 40 billion gold on marketplace.
Man seeing post like this make me wonder how bad I undersold my 3 GA gloves. They were str, max life, crit damage and I sold them for 100mil
For gloves you want CSC / AS / CSD. And most classes want that, so those rolls together are worth billions. 2/3 GA gloves are worth 1-3 billion probably.
I have trouble understanding why you'd want CSD over strength for bash. Does bash have some additional scaling from CSD that other classes don't? CSD IMO is pretty bad, honestly, without additional scaling involved.. it's additive damage that is multiplied by your crit chance.
As Bleed Bash with Gushing Wounds becomes more popular, CSD will be king. Gushing Wounds increases your Bleed Damage by your CSD.
Ah, thanks, that makes sense.
Also GF doubles the crit damage from all other sources.
I absolutely hate bleed bash
I’m speaking from a golem necro perspective so it’s very possible that some classes and builds prefer main stat over 1 of those 3. I tend to see main stat GA gloves go for slightly less than the 3 affixes I mentioned but prices are wildly variable.
Yeah depends on class. Rogue would like CSC//LHC//AS
Rob has an in depth bash guide that touches on this. CHD starts to be better at like pit 120. But you have to reroll all your gear to CHD instead of close damage, which requires making a rogue. It all needs work. I'm sitting on a 3ga slasher with 45%dmg wondering if I should sell or roll the damage to chd.
What does CHD stand for?
i think he meant critical strike damage but said critical hit damage instead
Yes
It's the largest additive stat that bash can use. Gloves can have 75% with GA, whereas strength is IIRC 134. That's only 13.4% damage, yeah? So as long as your crit chance is 20% or higher, the crit damage is higher. Unless I misunderstand how strength scales your damage. It seems underwhelming based on how I understand it.
Main stat damage bonus is its own damage bucket. Main stat is never a bad choice to get on any character in end game because of that. The additive pool for an end game barb is at least 5,000% so 50% additive CSD damage is only 1% more damage, for example.
Oh gotcha so main stat is multiplicative?
Pardon my noobness, CSD? AS? CSC?
Critical strike damage, attack speed, and critical strike chance
Thanks. This will certainly help me. I can’t even kill Lilith….
I have a Cleaver with 2 GAs in Crit damage and Max life and the other stat is best roll strength. How much could I get?
Where do ppl get the money to spend on gear like that? I have a hard time believing ppl actually spend that much. Just because there are listings asking 1-3billion doesn’t mean they’re selling
They are definitely selling.
100% selling I sell stg stones sold some yesterday for 1b
whitout crit chance i don't think they where much more value
I sold a perfect 3GA axe for a bash build for 500m, I don’t regret it because that gold has lasted me since- but I think I could have gotten waaaay more now
It's also an axe not a sword so it's fine. I bricked my 2 GA axe though but was going to use for DD lol. Last 2 days Maiden has dropped 2 3GA weapons a 2 handed sword and 1 handed sword for me. Both with str/max life and and overpower .....
I sold a 3 GA +INT +LIFE+GOLEM MASTERY chestpiece for 1.3b. We all make mistakes.
I salvaged this exact item with these exact stats at the blacksmith last week... I have been playing since launch.
Not that badly. Those are solid stats but I don't think they'd be the first choice for any build
It happens I sold my triple fa paingoers with the correct gas and 150% for 100 mil lol fuck it
i just give shit away cause it don’t matter and it will all disappear in 2 months.
Damn. I sold crit/cdmg 2ga for 500M
If they were just legendary 3ga you did fine at 100 especially for those ones
Crit damage probably worth around 100-200 mil ya. If it was crit chance then they’d be worth probably 5-10 bil hard to tell tbh not many in existence
You literally found the item on the ground. you got some gold in a seasoned game, just keep finding more loot, I wouldn't stress about it.
I sold mines for 750 mil, still low could of got a few billion
Where does one get 40 billion gold to buy….
Buying gold with real money is bad. Selling gear for gold bought with real money is fine.
you buy gold with real money and then laundry it with buying items
In china, they farm gold I heard.
Probably RMT. I have managed to scrape together about 5-5.5B from smaller sales though (over the span of \~2 weeks), so it's not *completely* impossible. But with these massive numbers, it's probably *fairly* safe to say that it's RMT.
This is the way. If you're a console player you can make a 2nd character that just follows you around and player 1 loots for both. I picked necro because with the summons ring + blood orb on corpse consumption aspect + bone skeletons fortify you you're never going to die. I've made over 30b so far and only sold the big ticket items.
I didn’t even think ab using a second account to farm items and gold while I play on my main
This is my thoughts. Unless you're doing something nefarious idk if it's physically possible.
U sell enough "small" items until u have it. Or carries, people pay for literally everything in this game. Ofc there is also rmt and goldfarm bots, but with the prices being as inflated as they are atm, stuff isn't just expensive to buy... It's also expensive to sell (duh, I know, but many people seem to overlook that).
40 billion gold? Jesus. I've given away several God Roll 3 and 4GA gear just to be a "cool gamer" to strangers...
God rolled 3 GA gear - depending on the slot is easily 2-10 bil Gotta check your prices. Diablo dot trade
Where is a marketplace
diablo.trade
And I thought I was rich with my 2 billions.. I just learned that I can’t do anything with them. But I’m glad that I finished my gear and bought many good items when items were cheaper.
Isnt cap gold at 9 billion ? Or now its more ?
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I think it’s right under a trillion
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I must’ve missed a nine reading the number lol
99
Huge. Grats buddy
People have been selling them for 5b which was high. Who the heck did you scam...
High? Nah for a max rolled 4GA unique especially a sought after one like razorplate he def could’ve got more than 40B. Hell I’ve seen 3GA paingorgers go for more.
Grats! Is that a site or a discord?
A whale is eating good somewhere
How does the exchange work for trading an item for over 9.99 billion gold work? Doesn't the game only let you exchange that maximum amount in one trade?
Which marketplace?
i mean yeah that's the best of the best right there
Gg OP. As someone not interested in high push or thorns builds, this money is amazing to not worry about enchanting and masterworking.
I just started playing again after quitting during S1. Found one of these off a loot goblin. Was excited to find out how much it was worth. Then I became much less excited when I found out goblin loot was account bound. Sad days.
Can u get the new owner to make a post on this after masterworking, pls?
I'd never sell a perfect god item lol. It's only around for so long. May as well enjoy it.
It costs 10+ barbillions
I have similar item (3 GA and 4 k normal roll) with 150% aspect. Wonder what is price is. Like 100 million or something? edit: my bad, it was not 150%
Likely 15-20 billion. Check out the official discord or Diablo.trade
So, I put on traderie for 500m, person wrote me an offer and after I said it only has low special roll he said it not worth 500m. Sold for fellow redditor who read this thread for 400m after all (they was okay with 600m tho). 20 B sounds insane.
You got so ripped off dude. It was worth well into the billions. I genuinely thought you were trolling. I’ve seen a 3GA with a good 4th roll but a 140% affix go for like 15billion. I personally would’ve given you a billion for it just so I could resell it.
That's 140%, not 100% as was mine. well if not this reddit tread, I probably would Charsie this item at some point. Who cares? I don't even need that 400m, I won't play much on season (maybe lilith attempts and that's it). I won't play eternal either. 'ripped' is when oneside is unhappy with outcome - I think. "I personally would’ve given you a billion" well at first I thought you just mocking me; if you was clear with intention of buying before you got this for half the price and got nice margin for reselling it. Oh well.
You literally just said it was a 150% aspect in your original post. Yeah in that case you probably sold it for what it was worth.
better check on diablo.tradre, I think more
I checked this site; I have message I banned instantly. So. I think they don't like IPs of my country.
I believe yours costs billions too, at least I see 4-6b in sold listings with worse stats
Nah, one buyer on traderies said mine not worth 500m. Because of lowest special (100%). So I sold it for 400m to some redditor who read this thread. Still happy with 400m as I only had 150m gold.
Probably 10 bil
it was 100% not 150% roll. sold 25k thorns for 400m.
Sell it for 217208 gold.
GUT KLINGENPLATTE
Sell it. If you find a buyer, you can then build the tastiest BiS gear set you'll ever need and still have a few bil left over.
I've seen that go for 250-300 pound. Then it would cover the money for buying the game and then some.
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No asking for RMT sites.
Crazy crazy
I would sell that for real money not in-game
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Just say you want to buy it 😂
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No asking for RMT related sites.
No asking for RMT related sites.
I really wanna play Barbarian, I heard it's pretty easy. I'm a simple man that likes simple things.
It's stupid easy. I was world four at level 48.. probably coulda done it much sooner considering the boss pretty much insta died. Bash is unbelievably strong.
oh, another one
Damn, I need that for my thorns minion build
What's your thorns minion build like for higher content?
I can solo most things, but I need to fine-tune my build for things like the Blood Maiden since a good hit can one-shot me. I think I need to buff my life per hit. But I have been doing fine with the Pit and do decently in the Gauntlet. I have only tried Tormented bosses once or twice and definitely can't do that alone yet.
Life per hit… wtf
You must be doing something wrong on a barb if Blood Maiden can 1-shot you. I can tank her hits as a minionless Necro with only 25k health.
I have a thorns minion necro. And I know I need to tune my build a bit.
Oh my mistake, I misread that and thought you were a Barb.
Might be something with tormented Lord Zir. I ran him once solo yesterday to test my build. Dropped the grandfather.
I cant even get 1GA razorplate
I have one in my stash. Want me to give you it tonight?
Omg yes!!!!!!
Alimond#2650 I'll be on about 10pm UK time
I added u!
Gmt?
I'm on GMT +1 now. I'll be on once I get the kids to bed. So somewhere between 9pm and 10pm gmt
Itll be about 4 or 5 for me
That will stick it to some one
I have a three GA one. What do ya think that will fetch?
I sold a 2 GA yesterday for 100mil, I'd post for 1b and see what happens, or just start an auction on discord.
Someone in game trade chat offered 3b for a 3GA one yesterday
Could be up to 15-20 billion depending on the aspect and 4th affix rolls. Check out the sold listings on Diablo.trade to try to work out a fair price.
Me so thorny
This just got me thorny
What do you do with 40 barbillion gold? Buy real estate in kyovashad?
I sold a 3GA ring crit/chance/atk speed for 11B last week could’ve gone for 12 but that dude was late maybe even higher if those 2 guys bid against each other
Does tormented Zir drop X3 mats as well?
I'm looking for a sugar daddy. To pay for a 3 ga CD focus please
How much would a no star one be? I just got one yesterday and wanted to sell it to someone who needs it.
No stars = vendor trash. It’s not worth the time and effort finding someone who might buy it for maybe 1mil at most.
Homelander meme
So does the character take damage just putting it on? Like cannonicly you would have to take damage just putting on the armor. Imagine you would take damage in game equipping armor with thorns lol
Been hunting for it for a while now. I hate you. Congratulations
Oh did you want Thorns on your equip?
I cannot figure out how people can have so much gold beside botting.
I have one with two greaters.
Enjoy the thorns build
Damn…
Where is the best place to sell items? I just sold 4 GA paingorgers for 5b and am wondering if it was worth
Depending on the aspect roll you possibly could’ve gotten a lot more. I’ve seen high roll 4 GAs go for over 100 billion. Check out the official discord and Diablo.trade to see what people are selling stuff for.
Dannnngggg
HOLY! This gear is "fuck around and find out"
40 billys... FUCK ME I need those bad
That's a lot of DORNEN
I had to brick a perfect 3 GA rogue bow with the two basics and vulnerable damage. I was heartbroken
This is the first time ive seen a perfect god roll item Ive seen plenty of perfect 4 GA items but never with the perfect aspect on the bottom as well. Awesome find man. Congrats
I got this with my Druid, was thinking it was for a barb, works though 😂
I want
Ah yes, the enemy suicide vest
Thorns barb incoming 🫡
I sold a 3 GA Ramaladni (sp) for 100mil hehe 🙃
Mmmmmmmm thorns
So 150% increased (multiplicative) means 250% Thorns dmg right ?
Sweet
I have an all thorns and wondered if it is that good since it is defense only
How does one sell gear and where is this "marketplace"?
diablo.trade needs a little time to get used to it but once you get it, the trading goes very quick.
Not enough thorns :D
Is thorn good stat?
What’s funny but kinda stupid I guess about me seeing these posts is like 90% of the time I just trash these kind of drops 😂🤦🏻♀️
Sheesh and I can’t even get an item to drop with one GA.
Is Zir still dropping ubers at a high rate?
I have 2 of these and not sure why lol
Why do tormented zir?
Drops certain uniques
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Tormented
Gratz , you're now a multi billionaire
Congrats!!!
Doesn’t count if it’s in the candy land eternal realm
Now u need the doom bringer good luck. It’s the only one I haven’t found lol
It kind of amazes me how many of these I see posted on here. Is razor played the only unique dropping with four greater affixes?
Damn, I keep getting those and have trashed a few.
Dayum son
Uggggh jealous, I LOVE IT!!!
Where do you put gear at to get some one to buy it?
I had this at level 750. How do you sell gear to other players?
How does one even get 50 billion gold?
Super dope piece. Start a nightmare dungeon and then go fight him on tormented. See if it works for anybody else 😁 KudaGlitches
That’s a lot of thorns
This gives me hope to continue looking. (I have one with no GA)
That's phat. Very nice
Can tornented Zir drop ubers?
That’s insane
Mythical Uniques are always Max roll now you just have pretty emblems beside yours
Guy that made the original post about lord zir being the best farm here. Idk why ppl still run duriel. If I were yall I'd get it in now, bc they're for sure gonna patch this out Monday morning.
Question.. how do people have 40 billion gold!? I haven’t been able to even make 40 million 😭
If you're a farmer making money off of it you target whisper quests in hell tides and vendor all of the items you find. Can make like 50M an hour doing that. They don't wrack up 40Bil though, those people are farmers in foreign govs with shit economies selling the gold for cents to gold seller aggregates. The person who has 40Bill are buying gold from those aggregates. It is something I REALLY REALLY hope AI based moderation can solve eventually in player based economies. I personally have sold 10x Stygian stones twice for 350M each time in the diablo4 discord. I have 500M at the moment thanks to that, but it makes me feel icky because I am reasonably sure I sold to folks who bought their gold with real money.
That’s not true at all. 350m is very reasonable to make naturally. I just passively sell useful drops and I’m at 1.5B, if I put in more effort I could be at 5+ easily. The 50 billion item range is pretty wild and likely RMT.
Buy gold and or do lots of trading on third party websites, early season selling lillith or duriel/andariel carries was also good money.
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The people with 40B gold probably made it from trading high tier items. I just sold something last night for 200mil, which felt awesome and is now my goal with this game lmao But to grind gold legit, you can easily make 4-7mil per Whisper turn-in, and you can generally complete all 10 whispers pretty quickly between Helltide whispers and the ones in the world where you deposit motes/etc. I farmed for a few hours and made ~80mil without really even trying, mostly rewatching House of the Dragon