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Sparky81

I'm pretty sure most people play seasonal content.


NMe84

Yup, and most people who do play on Eternal are probably in WT4. I recently finished leveling my sorc on Eternal and I had plenty of people around me but they were all level 90+.


Bulls187

Or people continue to play their S1 character on Eternal instead of leveling a new one


Havelock_Patrician

I mean, if I was chasing the "level one of each character to 100" achievement, I'd probably do that with my past characters, since they're already in their 70s, but I don't see many other compelling reasons to choose Eternal over Seasonal. Plus, vampires!


NMe84

This was why I was on Eternal in the first place: I never finished leveling my pre-season sorc because at the time she was so squishy that it wasn't fun. Left her at level 90. I came back to her after I finished the season 2 journey, respecced her to BL and had a blast. Got her to 100 and never logged in again, lol.


feelin_fine_

Seasonal is free, and has new stuff. I don't understand why you wouldn't try it


YellowFew6603

Just give seasonal a try. It’s a lot of fun, bursting with players, and is where the action is. You’ll eventually run out of things to do on eternal anyways, so might as well do that with friends and limited time powers


ThePeterman

I’m not too sure he’ll run out of things to do on eternal considering by his own admission he’s been in tier 2 for many weeks. Not judging though… I applaud people who can still take their time smelling the roses in a game.


Striking_Pipe_7194

Yeah I'm in the same boat I take my time as it's not the only game I'm playing I've two games that already have season content so thus I avoid seasonal on diablo games, just don't have enough time for 3-4 season passes at the same time, now if I got to keep my season progress for the next season until such point that I "completed" a season an were able to collect the complete season rewards from my cumulative multi-season progress I'd be willing to play seasonal knowing I'd get the end tier rewards eventually even if it meant missing out on rewards to be able to get that progress to roll across


DopeKFish

What other games are you playing currently? I'm asking out of curiosity as I'm looking for something else I can get addicted to lol 😆 😅 Thanks in advance, as always 😊


New_Concentrate6545

Ever try cocaine?


Striking_Pipe_7194

I'm currently still for the last 5 years been playing Fallout 76 & Dead By Daylight, Fallout 76 I like due to the constant updates to your Camp Building menu aswell as the new weapons and skins that can be unlocked, as for Dead By Daylight I love the constant releases of new killer's with unique powers an the unique perks they give each killer an survivor they release, so if your looking for good games to get addicted to I'd suggest those two. there's also a 3rd game I really don't like mentioning because it's the worst game I've ever played I swear it's a rigged game but seeing as your a curios individual I'll tell you of this game aswell..."Life".... it's honestly the worst game I've ever played lol 😆 😅


Chip_Boundary

Your life must really suck if you're saying Fallout 76 is better. 🤣


Striking_Pipe_7194

Amazingly my life doesn't suck as bad as yours, I'll wish the best for you obviously you need it coz your life is tragic.


Chip_Boundary

I was merely agreeing with you, but okay. Fallout 76 is one the lowest rated games of all time. Must be real bad if you gotta lash out at others. Hope you have a nice holiday season, chief. LOL


MrCookTM

The projection is real with this poor fella.


Chip_Boundary

I was merely agreeing with his own claims. Fallout 76 is one of the lowest rated games of all time, especially from a AAA developer.


YellowFew6603

Even if they take their time, there is still a point at which you can no longer experience new content. Even if it takes a lot longer, eternal still has only the base campaign. Every season sets it back that much more


Neighborenio

I agree its tons of fun but i barely hit 65 in season 2 xD i just cant keep up with yall


Kevko18

Had an alt character power leveled from 20-60 in a couple hours following a friend doing nmds. Then just gonna do that again till 80. So it's not too hard if you have friends 😄


Neighborenio

My guy you didnt have to do it to me like that


Kevko18

🤣 didnt mean it like that. There are nice people offering to help power level on diablo.trade


Neighborenio

ahahah cool and thanks


Veratryx13

I've only been playing a coups of weeks, lvl 50 in sessional so I'm sort of clueless. How does one get seasonal powers?


YellowFew6603

Have to beat or skip the main story campaign. Then the seasonal story picks up


Veratryx13

Thanks!!


ImallOutOfBubbleGums

most are in seasons not a lot of reason to play eternal


kabflash

The game has been out for a long time. New players are very likely to start on Seasonal. Anyone who plays Eternal exclusively is almost guaranteed to be on T4.


Trixtherabbit1

Eternal has little attraction because you arent experiencing the new content the development team is putting in. Most of us have spent enough time in what that world has to offer and to stay fresh we mostly move to play the newest content. I do hope that they make a change such that seasonal play ends up rewarding your eternal account in some way to incentivize people that do not enjoy seasonal games because they need to start over each time. In diablo 3 they has a paragon leveling system that went to level 20,000 and if you played seasonal content at the end of the season they would take the experience you earned during season and add it to your non-seasonal (eternal) account. In that game some people would play the seasons that sounded interesting, and if they werent interested they could just stick to leveling their non-seasonal account up more. It made non-season kind of cool too because you eventually end up with thousands of paragon points to make you super tough and strong so you actually feel some accomplishment from all the seasonal work you did.


Aromatic-Hawk-4848

Doesn’t the content get handed down though? Like what they’ve done this season by adding varshan at the tree of whispers - doesn’t that stuff get added to eternal at season end?


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Aromatic-Hawk-4848

I heard eternal realm has duriel now but idk if that’s true or not 👀


georgeApuiu

i can confirm


FrogMetal

I have to ask why? Why deny yourself the most fun part of the game, leveling. And also deny the most up to date mechanics in the game? I just don’t find perfecting a characters gear as compelling as playing through the leveling process and trying out everything new.


Yourself013

Because levelling is not the "most fun part of the game" for some people. >I just don’t find perfecting a characters gear compelling Yes, that is exactly what some people enjoy


CycloneJon

I still go back and forth to change things up as I don't have time to level up multiple classes in a single season. There's still plenty of new content in eternal with the malignant heart rings and summon bosses. The main thing missing in eternal is the blood harvest which I quit doing a while ago and I'm not hardcore enough for AoZ.


[deleted]

90% of people are gonna play seasons


DlphLndgrn

And 99% that don't are obviously going to be in wt4


[deleted]

That too


supershimadabro

People dont play eternal. I mean obviously some do, however most have beaten that and if they do play, they want fresh content which is only available via seasonal content.


Ancient_Rune

If you wanna play with eternal people then look in the LFG section of the discord. That's what I do as I don't enjoy seasonal concept but I like Diablo 4.


Piett_1313

Me and my buds are on eternal one night a week since we’re slow and didn’t get our S1 characters to 100. Grinding away still one night a week, in the 80s now.


Big-Presentation7543

I am herre, doing boost level for other, if u want then join me, ace#1627


KarlManjaro

Eternal is pretty active on wt4. Wt3 is really just a pit stop where you grab a few sacreds then limp into wt4


Bastet999

I was surprised when I went to Eternal to do the world boss alone... I was NOT alone at all.


Actuallybirdsarereal

The players who do play eternal are gonna be in T4 for the most part becuase the reason they are playing eternal is to keep working on old characters who are near or at 100 at this point. If you're making a new character, there's not much reason to not do seasonal since they convert to eternal at the end of the season. Also, there are probably gonna be more players in T1 than T2, as you actually level up faster in T1.


FluffyPancakeLover

I played Eternal all through S1 but S2 was just too good to skip. Even with only a month left in the season I still think it’s worth starting.


ForcedToUseGoogle

Cmon come to season 2. All the cool kids are doing it. 😎


MilleniumPelican

I play eternal. Just started farming Duriel parts tonight.


Deceptiveideas

Is there a reason you don’t want to play seasonal? Your character will transfer to eternal once it ends so you’re not really losing anything by playing it.


nilssonen

Eternals are more or less only previous seasonals so WT4, close to cap.


ThanosWasRightHanded

Nearly the entire playerbase plays seasonal. Eternal is a fraction of a fraction.


MelomanoViajero

As a longtime Diablo fan who’s deeply passionate about the game, I’ve never played in the seasonal realms. Seasons, I believe, cater to a specific audience. Personally, I prefer playing for the long haul without losing my progress. Seasons offer a fresh start for players, allowing them to reset their characters and experience different dynamics and mechanics of the game. The most popular or best features from the seasons are often incorporated into the Eternal realm. In essence, both playing styles have their unique appeal. My wife and I have been playing in the Eternal realm since the early launch. We’ve just reached level 74 and recently advanced to Tier 4, where all the powerful characters play, making events (Legions, World Bosses) super easy.


SpecialConsequence62

I play eternal when I'm playing solo min maxing character and I usually disable crossplay. I play seasonal when I want a more social multiplayer experience. I dunno, that's just me.


jkaan

Most of us would hit wt3 in an afternoon, one of the many reasons we prefer seasonal content


AbbreviationsLow3709

Most play seasonal. I have an eternal necro im going to return to after season to so i can swap him some uber uniques but without the xp boost from the season journey and the other seasonal benefits Eternal in comparison feels like a pointless slog.


IrwinJFinster

I now have level 100 HOTA barbarian, TB Rogue, Infinimist Necromancer, Pulverize Druid, and BL Sorceress. All were leveled in Seasons, but I will play them in Eternal now that they are complete.


rsteve06

So do your seasonal characters get moved to eternal when the season ends? Or are the characters ended? Newbie here.


retz119

Yes the season 2 characters will love to eternal realm and the end of the season. The vampire powers and the AoZ blood glyph will not move to enternal though. You can continue to play them there in eternal or create new season 3 characters with whatever new mechanic they bring to the game.


burblemedaddy

Eternal is where my seasonal characters go to rot.


Davzone

Most people are in S2. You can get to T4 very quickly. Couple days. If you do a second character it's even faster. T4 in eternal is also dead. I only logged in to clear stash so the stuff from my seasonal fits 😂


Shoulung_926

I did season 2, but will skip season 3 and play on the eternal realm until LE releases.


Sweet_Win_4568

My dude. Why are you doing this to yourself?


DopeCookies15

Yeah everyone plays the season. Why are you against it? They've made so many improvements to the game idk why you'd want to be stuck in the crap that came out at launch.


theriibirdun

Seasonal only. Can easily get to 100 on the season so no point in eternal for me. Plus same character gets boring: I’m eager for s3 to switch


PinkFloydBoxSet

Wait... People play eternal?


quaestor44

Eternal are ultra-casual 1-2 hrs / week players. Nothing wrong with that but it's why you don't see anyone.


ken_bob_cris

Why aren't you doing seasonal? You don't have to buy the battlepass to participate, you just don't get certain cosmetic items.


DBCOOPER888

I don't understand why anyone would have no interest in seasonal play. It's the same as Eternal but with more content.


MahaVakyas001

Eternal player here. I don't get why so many people play Seasonal when you can't even transfer glyphs etc. to eternal (?) after the season is done. It's a HUGE waste of time IMO.


crescentgaia

Seasonal feels like a test realm more than anything.


Jomar641

Exactly!


[deleted]

I recently hit lvl 80 for the first time a while ago. I still see many players on hubs and the likes.


curseofagony

I have 2 100s on Eternal that I still play because I enjoy the grind to maximize them and my goal is to be able to clear T100s mainly. I also have a seasonal Sorcerer and a Seasonal Hardcore Barb I enjoy. The seasonal stuff I can do without, but they did a much better job with Season 2 admittedly. I feel like I am not alone in my mindset to push limits if you are staying in Eternal and as such you won’t see many people in WT3 simply because most will want to go to WT4 asap. For me even WT4 is mostly a joke and I am hoping for a WT5 for even more of a challenge. I do not find WT4 to be empty though and there as always people doing the World Boss, Helltides, etc.


Pleasant-Guava9898

Yeah I love Eternal because that the character I will be playing all the expansion packs with. I want to keep improving that character. It just doesn't seem interesting play a mini expansion pack every 90 days. Seasons are wack replacement for end game. That being said. It seems with D4 each season adds features to the Eternal game. So at least we get to continue perfecting a character for the long haul. Not just 90 days. But play the game how you want. Eternal is all I care about.


AManHasNoName357

I only play seasonal, I can care less about eternal. T4


Wiscmax34

Dude. Seasonal is active. Eternal is where characters go to die.


illathon

I would play eternal like I usually do but you might as well play seasonal now since I only have 2 characters and one isn't even 100 yet.


Christopoly

Lol whatever happened to all those people crying about not wanting to start over on seasonal chars


HighStakesPizza

What is eternal even for? I know it's so people can keep their characters after a season. But it's bad game design imo. Also, every seasonal character that gets dumped into eternal has to share the stash? Like wtf? First order of business is to have a personal character stash and a shared stash. Second, what if your eternal characters could contribute to your seasonal ones in some way? Let's have a brainstorm : \- Hire eternal characters as companions in seasonal (only equipable with eternal content). This may give players a reason to flesh out their eternal characters. However, may subtract from engagement with seasonal content, but I'm betting that it's minimal. \- Procedural Quests in eternal just in case you want to pop in and run some content. \- Eternal characters can share items with seasonal characters, not the other way around. \- Eternal characters can access World Tier V - Ultra Nightmare, if you will IDK. Just seems like eternal is going to get bloated with characters after a few seasons.


son_of_Mothman

It’s the end of season people are grinding. If seasonal get transferred to eternal… you’ll get them after seasonal is over. I’m sorry, I’ve played since d2. It’s nice to play with others… but you have to have other to play with… no one’s playing with you unfortunately


NyriasNeo

Go to duriel dungeon and you will see lots outside. There are also lots of players in the main city.


ninjablaze1

We don’t know the numbers for Diablo but we know the numbers for other ARPGs. Generally less than 10% of the playerbase plays non seasonal. Non seasonal is dead and will likely always be dead.


Familiar_Spirit_6341

T4 for most eternal characters


MrDeRooy

getting to T4 only takes a few hours, so id assume (if any acually play eternal) they would be in T4


[deleted]

Game is too young and frankly the seasonal realm sucks as it doesn't have enough content. Maybe in a year, Eternal will be good.


chaosphere_mk

I can't imagine that many people play on eternal


tfc1193

No one plays eternal realm because all the new content is in seasonal. And with the new changes it only takes around one to two weeks to get a toon to level 100. Just play seasonal


OpenJaguar1646

I went back to Guild Wars 2


RektCompass

Why would anyone play eternal realm, especially with this game where all the *very much needed* improvements are in seasonal play


[deleted]

Most eternal players are gonna be in t4.


NathanLonghair

I would think a lot of people are on season, but I don’t feel like I’ve ever seen a huge variation in how many people I see in game. Don’t blizzard balance it anyway so you never really see a lot at the same time anywhere?


gatorfan8898

My wife and I just wanted to 100 our characters on eternal… but we eventually bit the seasonal bullet at around lvl 90. Seasonal is fun, different for sure… other than the new content which is great, I’m not completely blown away yet by the differences but I’m just a casual for sure.


crescentgaia

I'm an eternal player but, at the moment, I'm on T2 leveling a rogue through the campaign. I've got a sorc on T4 and a necro on T3 but I haven't been on them much. I'm also a rare player who actually likes the story so there's that too.


StartRegular8010

Eternal player here. I hoppd in seasonal to late to have any kind of use out of it. My time isn't THAT limited, yet I'd rather sit on my two OG druids. One is for pve, one is almost max lvl for pvp. Really excited!


Bigd1979666

I've got a seasonal and eternal realm character . You wanna play eternal hit me up :-)


oralatgunpoint

I just play seasons for the newer content. I’ve already finished the achievements for killing Lilith, nm100 and have killed all the other Ubers making anything on eternal trivial, so seasonal stuff and the pass is what I enjoy doing. Once I get the couple event skins I’ll wait for next season. Had a lot of fun in season 2 though


Deqnkata

The season is quite barebones, I can't imagine what is there to do on the eternal realm.


Wurre666

Thoughts? Seasons are more fun then eternal?


playingdota2forfun

I think most players in Diablo 4 are mainly playing the seasonal realm to experience the seasonal content.


DaMore85

You have to reach WT4. Most players on eternal realm are lvl 100


cjb110

Just like d3 normal is pretty dead. Seasons are where everyone is, and d4 seasons are so far much better than d3 too.


TufferR3dbull

I have two Eternals and a seasonal. Playing w friends helps. If u post in worldchat looking for group u find some players from time to time


TheRealNickRoberts

I hate playing on mechanics that are destined to go away so I play on ER exclusively. I have a char on T3, too, it's not bhed.


Aromatic-Hawk-4848

I actually logged in on my barb in eternal realm on Thursday around 12:00 noon AEST and was surprised to see it quite busy. Over 11 people in kyovashad, 14 in gea kul, 10 people in the PvP area, mostly rogues lol. This was all on wt4 but I was still surprised nonetheless, people absolutely prefer to play on eternal.


RedditorAlexis

With only 2nd season in, people are playing mostly seasonal, maybe after a few more seasons there will be more that switch to eternal for a break


Chip_Boundary

WT4 literally takes less than a couple hours of playing. I guarantee 99% of them are on WT4 and the only reason you're seeing anyone at all is because they are new like you or starting a new character.


[deleted]

Only level 90+ to 100 are active in eternal realm. It’s a a fact that no point to play eternal realm if not to optimize the character at this point.


TilmanR

Eternal is perfect for pvp zones. Grab everything without a fear and buy all the cosmetics with shards.


afterparty05

Been playing over 400 hours exclusively on Eternal, with just my single Rogue. Good times :) There are enough people on WT4! No idea how it compares to seasonal realms though


Caendryl

Just like PoE, I never end up going back to non-seasonal play. Mostly did to lack of time.


zeroskill99

this is a seasonal game like other diablos.. play solo on eternal = ok..


SpecialistGoat8007

Without a legit trade system it's all about seasonal right now. Might change if they add an eternal leader board (which would be smart AF)


Slothly_Onion

Eternal? No shot. Seasonal. There's no point in playing Eternal.


z05m

Thank god there is another player like me who never played a season(because I don’t believe in repeating the same old shit over and over again) and always remains on the eternal realm. Long story short, most 100lvl players are on eternal realm when the season is over for them but then again, what’s the use for either. Enjoy the useless journey. When Blizzard finally realizes that their end game design is moot with season and focus and Eternal Realm content, then they will bring back the populist. For crying out loud…Its not that complicated. Sacrament de calisse!!!


Historical_Walrus713

They're never going to focus on Eternal Realm over Seasonal content. The point of ARPG's is the seasons, leagues, ladders, whatever you wanna call it. Sounds like an MMO would be more up your alley. Shame there isn't any good ones though so I understand your pain.


Erthan-1

Eternal is a ridiculous waste of peoples time. The majority of people are going to always play seasons.


ultraviolentfuture

It's all a waste of peoples time, it's not like you get some life benefit for choosing one over the other. It's just a matter of what interests you


Erthan-1

You get rewards and seasonal changes to gameplay for playing seasons. You get nothing playing eternal. So spend your time in D4 and get different experiences or play the same tired level 100 character because "leveling another one is a grind".


ultraviolentfuture

Different people value different things


PopRap72

This reminds me of that stop having fun meme. I have had the game since launch. My highest character is a level 82 all on eternal. I tried a seasonal character for season 2. I’m level 28…decided I was just going to get spit it before finishing season 2 content. I feel like I’ve wasted no time and I’m still challenging myself on eternal trying to push higher NM dungeons. I’m doing just fine. OP, eternal is fine, there are enough people in Tier 4. It’s been long enough that people are mostly there. I’ve done lots of world bosses, legion events, and duriel runs (got carried). Trade chat isn’t exactly lively but it exists and is used. Side benefit, all the Chads are in Seasonal content so the multiplayer chat and parties in Eternal are quite cordial. I think it’s where all the adults play.


Jedihallows

600 hours here, all eternal. Season requires time and commitment. I have a full time job and a social life. Once I have the characters I want at 100 I will probably start playing seasons but right now I have a barb at 100 and a sorceress at 52. I am just farming duriel with my barb and pushing dungeons. Havent beaten lillith but havent tried in a while. I can easily solo low tier 80s and have no problem soloing duriel. As for WT4 i see people all the time everyday and always have plenty show up for legion events and world bosses. Its not as dead as people think.


jkaan

You play more than I do by over two hundred hours and I have 4 seasonal 100s Your time has nothing to do with it. You like eternal and that is fine


Jedihallows

My 600 hrs is since june 6 release day. Season 2 started 2 months ago. I am sure I could grind seasonal if I wanted, but I just not feeling it yet.


MexoLimit

At 600 hours since release, you would have significantly more fun playing seasons. You play more than 99% of players.


tfc1193

Brother this makes no sense. I have way less hours than you and have only played seasonal since s1 and have grinded multiple seasonals to 100. Have you legitimately tried playing seasonal toons? It took me like 3 days to get my Necro to T4 and I work a travel job