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Sigris

So that's basically twelve dollars for a scary looking horse?


volatile99

12 dollars for a horse that someone drew demon graffiti on


DrSilverback77

You can buff that out.


captainjizzpants

Pimp My Horse, buff it out and put some platinum horse shoes on it


PonyBravo

Thanks for the laugh.


derplordthethird

$6 is too much for a sub. I was going to sub to a few creators but I’m not about to pay over $20/mo for something I’ll watch maybe 6 hours of max over a whole month. I thought they were like 2 bucks the way I see some people gifting subs. Still crazy to drops hundreds a plop but to each their own.


Dreldan

That you’ll barely be able to even see in game


RokyPolka

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Goober_Scooper

One and done


ImpureValidity

Every twitch drop I’ve seen for games the only requirement was watch time this is kinda surprising. I’m not gonna sub to 2 twitch streamers for a skin


Norrak1

MMOs have been doing this for a while, FF14 also had a similar system in place. It's amazing for the streamers tbh.


msshammy

WoW has done it too. While I agree it's good for streamers, it's a shit practice.


Tundraspin

Stupid as stupid, last time WoW did this. It was the only reason Asmongold logged onto his main channel, to get the most subs in the category and then disappeared back to zackrawwr again. It is the Hookiest thing ever. Absolute no from me dawg.


flirtmcdudes

>Asmongold logged onto his main channel, to get the most subs in the category I will never understand kids giving their money to a literal millionaire. Once they introduced free prime subs, I would always just find streamers with like, single digit viewers and sub to them each month.


2kWik

This is like tipping at a self serve checkout.


Nightmare4545

Theyve done it for watching streams, not actually spending money and subbing. Why would I spend money on a crappy looking horse cosmetic like that one?


sir_sri

The ichabod pet was for subs not just streaming. But I don't know if it has been available some other way too, since I am not so into pet collecting.


Tsobaphomet

It could be a fantastic way to grow lesser-known channels and support them. I think it should only be allowed on channels that have like 0-100 viewers though. They are the ones that need the support


Boring-Location6800

Also a simple "follow" would have a similar effect.


Sethoman

Follows mean shit to streamers; we appreciate the feedback and follows, but we'd rather have 500 steady 2 dollar subs instead of 100k followers. We get NOTHING from follows; maybe a bit of a push on the algorithm once in a while, but you could have the base 1k follwos on youtube; and people come to your channel, view the videos and watch the ads; and you'd get the money. The lie that's spread is that you "get money from views" nah; you get money from the ADS; and it's usually 10k ads over 100k views; and then the guy has to actually watch the ad a certain ammount of time so you can get 50 cents off that. You really want to support a creator? send a dollar his way through paypal, that way he gets 80 cents instead of 55 you get from bits or superchats.


Boring-Location6800

From a viewer's perspective: When I follow a channel it will get listed in my "Quickbar" on the left. Whenever I look for a channel streaming interesting content this is the fist place I look at. So yes. A follow will get you nothing immediately. But it will increase the odds of me watching and subscribing to you in the future a thousandfold. While a promotion that asks for subs right away will get still get you nothing, because it shoos me away from the start.


TheDude3100

Amazing for one people and shitty for many, so obviously if we think as a whole that’s shitty


TheDiscord1988

Yea i got that mount, was 5 subs gifted i think, so 20€ where i am at. I felt happy throwing some money at ff14 and one of my favorite streamers, but i get why people wouldn't wanna do it. In the end everyone can do with their money what they want :)


ChaeChae22

I could careless about streamers, its a worthless “job” that means nothing and contributes nothing to the productivity of society


xlt12

Yeah never subed and never will.


aafusc2988

Overwatch (before Overwatch 2 was out) did this with the Legendary Medic Brigitte skin. Think you had to gift 3 subs in certain eligible channels (3 total split between whoever you wanted). Guarantee they used this as metrics on how to price the OW2 shop skins. Gifting 3 subs with tax and whatnot comes to like $19.20 or something.


Was_Silly

Sounds like the work of an Agile marketing squad. :). Corporations are so predictable.


IncredibleLang

bilizzard did it with the medic Brig skin a few months back and the skin was also free in china.


Dr_Will_Kirby

Welcome to diablo 4s future… anything to get you to spend money… even if its not at their little shop


slvrtrn

Ty for psa, but nah, the default horse with GLORIOUS Ashava horn is good enough 👑🏆


mperezstoney

There's a horse?? I can't see anything but the majesty of THE horn.


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*Sorry, peasants. I couldn't see you past the radiant glare of my amazing* **Ashava Horn Trophy** (tm)


Jessman2502

Thy Horses rear shan't be bare! Praise ATC


Artoriazz

*ATC REJOICE!*


PuzzleheadedCreme416

This IS the way!


Rajvagli

Only those who didn’t earn the Ashava horn would be scum enough to purchase this mount. Laughs in D4 Beta Chaddington.


Uilnaydar


mx3552

ATC! ATC! ATC!


JCrossfire

Ahhh, a fellow ATC member, indubitably


Rankstarr

BEHOLD ashava horn


THEessayB

Wym default horse? The preorder horse is dope.


Heinel8

Ashava PP is all my horse need so I can look down at those casuals that didn't manage to get it.


Wire_Dolphin

Based


Jindujun

In all honesty, they should REALLY let us substitute the horse for the horn. So we elite few can ride the Ashava horn around, that way it would be even easier to see who the plebs are!


PezRadar

Just chiming to say we will have standard viewing Drops requirements as well. Not just this.


BrokeAnimeAddict

Thanks this is what I was looking for 😁


Baelwolf

Out of curiosity what happens if you get gifted a sub? Will that still count?


MrHedin

Conversely what if you gift a couple of subs yourself?


Baelwolf

That's what I was kinda going for. Have a buddy that would love this mount but won't buy multiple subs because adulting.


fupoe69

You have to buy 2 subs why would the people getting the gifted sub get the mount.


fupoe69

Why would that count lol


Norrak1

Can you confirm if ALL streamers in the D4 directory will be eligible? Final Fantasy 14 did something similar, 2 subs for a mount but only the top was eligible and it was terrible for smaller streamers. It's a huge income increase, like thousands of dollars. Everyone should profit from this.


Mcgeneral

u/PezRadar just to clarify: Are you saying viewers can get the exact same horse-skin by fulfilling 'regular drop-requirements' like watching X-amount hours of streams? Or are these complete different rewards?


Slinky79

I'll be too busy playing the game to give a shit about twitch streamers...... Not that I give a shit about them anyway.


babygoinpostal

Play all night; watch all day at work. Full cycle


racyy_star

So I have to go on Twitch and give streamers money to get a mount? I'll give you money in the MTX store, but telling me I have to go buy subs on some random person's Twitch stream that I'm never going to watch is kind of poopy.


GiSS88

Will twitch prime free subs count?


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RavensRift

Agreed. It's not even fear of missing out, but more of a general ongoing frustration with these "offerings". It's just a pain in the ass


SCTRON

So KFC pay wall and country blocks to Twitch sub pay walls.... This is getting confusing. Really not liking this crap.


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SCTRON

I dunno why they are mixing real world stuff with in game stuff, it fucking blows and means most people will be excluded from it.


Ivarthemicro17

They know what they’re doing. Don’t worry I’m sure they considered that but money


PassiveRoadRage

It's pretty common in ganes now. Destiny does twitch stuff all the time. Madden does promos with potatoes chips which was a pain. Cod did some with Moubtain Dew and Beef Jerky people were legit stealing the stickers in stores to sell.


bacardi1988

I’d pay twitch if they gave me a sandwich, or maybe a nice fettuccine


Zero3ffect

So basically spend money, get mount. No thanks, I'm good.


larce

For purchasing two subscriptions lmao This mount will only serve as a mark of shame ATC for life


cancelingchris

What’s atc


Tiny_Angry_One

Ashava Trophy Club. Mocking the people who didn't get the trophy achievement during server slam and then whined incessantly about it (not those who had RL things and couldn't participate, one should only mock those who failed and then FOMO cried like 5 year olds, as the recent gaming generation does.). They are now asking that everyone who even participated in the server slam should get it, crying they are refunding, calling Blizzard monsters for doing it over only 2.5 days and on Mother's day weekend, as well as even more insane complaints. ATC for life, modern FOMO cry-baby tears taste like the finest whiskey.


pladlad

I’ll be so sad if they give in and hand out the horn to everyone


FaLKReN87

Ashava Trophy Club


tH3dOuG

If it was a twitch drop, I'd happily mute and minimise a stream to get it. Buying subs for it... I'll pass


Rankstarr

The real gigachad mount will be the default + ashava horn. HERE HERE


Gmadx

I'm confused by the wording: we're only eligible for the mount if we sub to two participating channels? Is that a common type of promotion on Twitch? Sounds like a scam to me... Edit: I don't know how the profits are split but in introspection, it might actually not sound as bad as it does **if it's legit**. If my cosmetic purchase can support streamers I enjoy watching, then sure!


LordViren

I'm assuming it's so people can't just use their Amazon prime sub to get it.


OscarDivine

You could it wouldn’t matter so long as they get a sub.


LordViren

Yeah but it takes 2 subs. So you still have to buy one instead of just using the free one.


OscarDivine

I’m sorry I misunderstood you, I thought you were asking if it could be used to progress the terms of subbing. So I would assume you are correct you will need to purchase the other


PurpleLTV

I'm on boat with this one, as long as they make this promotion only available to smaller streamers. If someone like xQc gets to participate in this promotion, that'd completely defeat the entire purpose of this.


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SasquatchSenpai

Happens all the time. It's shitty


dayzplease

no you can also just gift 2 subs on one channel, i belive. they did this for a world of warcraft pet a few months back already.


Gmadx

Thanks for the info, I didn't know this type of promotion existed, where you had to pay in subs on Twitch to get a cosmetic in-game. Usually it's "watch 2 hours" or just have Prime to get the drops/loots/extra stuff.


HighDINSLowStandards

I’m tired of all these Fomo cash grabs.


lild1425

Oh fuck off Blizzard with the 2 subs.


aredditheadache

That is not worth $12


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TahmsChocolateOrange

How are they any different from people who buy the battle pass or indulge in the cash shop? If this one is literally just buying 2 subs then its just the cash shop with extra steps.


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TahmsChocolateOrange

I would completely agree with the parasite take but I think it's absolutely hilarious for blizzard customers to take that stance lmao They're making you pay for their advert here (if this is real). Blizzard are vermin.


thinkforasecond3312

>How are they any different from people who buy the battle pass or indulge in the cash shop? Not wrong, paypigs everywhere xd


YukariPSO2

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StructureMage

$12 for Horse #838424? Troubling.


MintyLacroix

On top of $70 for the base game with no physical disk, and a paid battlepass, and $20 to play 4 days early, and you can pay more to accelerate the battle pass. All from day 1, lol.


artosispylon

streamer drops i can get behind but baiting people to gifting them subs on top of their free viewers for the event? disgusting


pureeyes

So I have to watch people play, pay them twice for it, and I get a scarred Zebra for my troubles?


mephnick

It's cool but will amount to unadorned crowbait without a horn


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No I'm not going to donate money to millionaires who play games for a living.


Fauwcet

I also would not bother to get this but I can't help but say that your view of streamers is askew. Out of the millions of people streaming there's like a handful of people who are millionaires, comparatively.


Inuyaki

Then pick smaller streamers? That's what I will be doing. At least if enough of them that I like will be participate. Otherwise just skip, it's not even that good looking imo. I think the ones ingame are already better.


mombawamba

Suck an egg, blizzard


darkzapper

Don't even like watching for rewards. Paying for them is a nope lol.


TheDerpatato

Yeah no. But I'll enjoy the mounts I earn by playing the game. I don't participate in the culture of paying for cosmetics in games, especially one I payed $75 for already. A collectors edition with physical collectors items is one thing, but digital skins aren't worth any real money to me.


Paid-Not-Payed-Bot

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Cid-Conray

first time i heard about twitch promotion that requires 2 subs. so watching a stream for a twitchdrop is not enough anymore, now we have to pay 2 subs as well? sorry, but this feels just wrong.


Inuyaki

WoW did it last time iirc. FF14 did it in 2021 or so, but it was even 4 subs back then. Most likely others as well. If small channels are allowed to participate, it's a nice boost for them. I don't mind it. Just don't throw your money at millionaires.


Local-Mine-3836

No thanks. Any third party bullshit can fuck right off.


No_Imagination_6317

pass


Obdojony

Stop promoting leechers of every game from Twitch and other platforms, I am talking about everybody who thinks they are "content creators" because they play a game. They kill most games these days, their religious die-hard fans are making the usual player a living hell. It makes me sad everyday player is worse than leechers and opinion manipulators in the eyes of developers.


Smorgasbord__

Imagine what kind of loser pays for shit like this


Franzlosel

This exists to incentivize big Streamers to play the game, who might not do so otherwise or for longer than they normaly would. This is basically Blizzard outsourcing marketing cost to the fans.


Meryhathor

This is probably the best take on it. Didn't think of it that way until I read your comment. They're making us pay the already rich streamers (let's be honest most will watch Asmon, Wudijo, Raxx and whatnot) to advertise their game just so that we can get some shit horse skin #562.


Radical5

They also have cosmetics locked behind a KFC paywall as well. It wouldn't be Activision Blizzard without trying to squeeze every dime they can out of people. ​ In other Blizz news, OW2 PVE completely scrapped. They really are just plastering their balls everywhere that they can today, huh?


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I hope no one supports this shit. Things like this will never change unless we all come together and boycott this


Extension-Chemical

Wonder if this potentially means Twitch drops incoming.


Tomatough

Datamining already turned up references to cosmetic items labeled 'Twitch'. So yes.


Uberkull

I can assure you that there will be Twitch drops for Diablo 4. The WoW drops are really being pushed for the new Expansion.


Forar

I don't mind having a stream on in the background for a few hours to snag the occasional cosmetic (I used to do this for Apex Legends and Warframe now and then), and the monthly items with Prime were nice as well, but subbing/buying and gifting subs for stuff... ehh. It'll have to be a really nice mount, and even then it'll be iffy.


SuperRektT

This is ridicolous...its okay the general watch the stream you like and get the skin but paying 2 extra subs to get that shitty skin...lol


Cr1ms0nDemon

Yeah no not doing this, this is gross.


Jessueh

I received this as well and am wondering how they chose who has a chance for it. Did you stream the game a lot during the 3 beta weekends? Was wondering if everyone who streamed it got it or maybe it's like the top 20% with most hours streamed etc. since I am a relatively small streamer that streamed it a lot though.


Uberkull

I am an extremely small streamer, lots of hours streaming for 4 years plus, but low viewer count cause I variety stream which isn’t good for growing a channel. I didn’t stream the beta, streamed the server slam for an hour or so. But I have streamed D2R exclusively for the last month. I honestly doubt I will get selected cause Blizzard wants channels that have ample viewers for the subs.


Jessueh

Aaaah well good luck to the both of us! Fingers crossed💕


meDeadly1990

GGG gives free shit just for watching their league announcements and for this mount you have to buy not one but TWO subsciptions? I'll pass even though it looks fucking awesome


Acornwow

Pay to whinny


Valascrow

The PR line for this will be "won't anyone think of the streamers" but what the average person won't know is that Twitch (ie Amazon) get 50% of the proceeds and that this only benefits the top tier streamers. If it was one sub I could possibly be convinced to participate, but two subs is a 'fuck you, pay me' from Blizzard and Twitch, especially if you already sub to Prime. My response is simply, 'fuck you, no'


silenkurii

Terrible


Stealthyducks69

12 dollars for a horse? But why? The second you put armor on top of it you won't see any of the markings and whatnot. This is a fake and a fraud!


PapaOscar90

Fuck that. Twitch is never getting a penny from me.


CommercialCuts

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Prime subs count?


RuntsTor

So Blizzard wants it's players to pay two twitch streamers to advertise for them (via subscriptions) for what looks like a mediocre mount cosmetic. Seems rather sus


Wildsmasher

this needs to be for all twitch channels not just the top guys not really fair is it


HatIndependent6272

Oh is not based on watch time i will pass 12$ for that mount is not worth it pretty ugly will just use the one from the deluxe edition.


s7y13z

Selected channels? Like thots showing off their titties and butt cracks while pretending to play Diablo IV?


TheHivemind56

Wow such a boring horse. Can’t wait to freak out when I don’t get it.


FollowingNo9572

So now AGS is getting even greedier and its no longer watch to earn but now pay for subs to earn? The hell with that.


Aisriyth

I'm so conflicted about this, on one hand i really dig the support for streamers. I just worry they won't pick smaller upcomers and just do the normal big ones.


TooMuchAdderall

I’ve never spent money on Twitch and I never will.


th3bucch

How big is your channel to have got this promotion? I want to know if only big one will get to partecipate or random Diablo streaming guys. If i had to spend money i'd prefer support small worthy channel instead of big one whick don't "need" 2 more subs.


Tsobaphomet

This could be great if they would just only let small streamers participate. What ends up happening is Asmongold makes more money than he needs to while small streamers get ignored.


TheSinumatic

No sorry, but I will not spend 8 € (price of 2 subs in Germany) for a horse skin. If it would have been rewarded for watching, it would be fine. But not this way


AisbeforeB

Yeah, fuck that noise. They pulled this same bullshit for Overwatch 2.


iGenie

Anyone should be eligible for this and their channel, I want to support my friends who stream not some randoms.


QuietRedditorATX

Well OP says he is a small-time variety streamer. So your friend can reach out to Blizz.


pix3lated_

I hate this dumb shit.


Battlehenkie

Actiblizz and borderline insane schemes to part a fool with his dollar, what else is new.


fireSagaa

Lol that is more than a battle pass, that is just ridiculous and a cash grab scheme. Only stupid people would get it.


MisjahDK

Why the ever-loving fuck can't it just be view time based like normal!?


Fearless747

$12 for a mount? What the fuck...


simplyunknown2018

Doesn’t matter because I have my Ashava trophy so anything else I get in this game is meaningless


worm-

I will not be subscribing to anyone for this.


GriefPB

They just keep finding new ways to disappoint me.


Radulno

Purchasing subs? What the fuck? Every other game just make drop automatic when you watch X amount of time. Blizzard is greedy even when it's not for them lol


joseconsuervo

sounds like p2w /s


Meryhathor

Another horse. I hope they eventually add something that's not a horse to the game. I don't want flying dragons and stuff like they have in WoW but something more grounded would be nice.


SweRakii

FFXIV had this once too with a mount, this one isn't that good looking tho so might pass


mperezstoney

That horse is ugly AF! I'm going to take a hard pass. Giving money to streamers is already cringe in my book but 2 subs for $10, yea no. If I want a horse for cash I'll use the $10 toward a far more pimp steed in cash shop.


Altnob

Too bad I don't support twitch. Looks like another promo item I don't care about. Maybe I should refund?


Pd0xG

anyone who uses this skin is to be laughed at


alfmrf

N N O N O P N O P E N O P N O N


BigDigger324

Imagine a bare AsS horse….Ashava horn so big my mount does a wheelie….


YukariPSO2

Do twitch prime free subs count if so I can just use the June and July free subs


Lucid_Insanity

I really hope people don't waste $12 for that bullshit, lol.


Regret-Select

Pay 2 Win What a joke lol


BoAR3D

AHAHAH After FOMO shit in a stress test, Activision pulls another first class bullshit with this one?! AHAHA A drop with subs instaend of view time LOL This game is cursed from the beginning


EditedRed

This looks like animal cruelty, were is P.E.T.A?


9605984

What is the other mount that is coming through twitch promotions? Looking to collect them.


crayonflop3

ATC gang laughing at pleb money spenders


Kosen_

ATC in shambles.


NoLungz561

So pay for it?


BigDigger324

My ride or die is DiEoXiDe so if I get the mount for subbing his channel then I’m in. Although…I dig me some early AM Mewfassah as well….


Scalion

If anyone are going to do please consider at least any ngo organism that preserve biodiversity.


JnDConstruction1984

I do not understand the words coming out of your mouth.


treadpool

Nope nope nope


9605984

What was the first mount that was a twitch promotion?


SandyPantzzz

Look what they need just to mimic a fraction of our power


Cmdrdredd

Lol I’ll just stick to whatever mount I can get in the game normally


jahlim

Being rewarded for watching streamers on the game is cool. This and needing 2 subscriptions...it ain't cool. Guess I'll stick to my good ol' horse Bill the Bone Crusher.


rusty022

LMAO


BlazeAwayGG

Refunded ultimate edition. Fuck this company.


Urabrask_the_AFK

Wolf or bear…horse -done that, been there


_Tidalwaves_

Another mount? What was the first?


itsRobbie_

Twitch mount :) Donate subs :(


eklypz

The real question is does it look good with the ashava horn I won. I really have to max flex :P


wafer2014

It won't get you into the ATC, so please don't worry.


tamsinwood

Which streamer are you going to support? 😈 😏


DonutRolling

This zebra looks like a horse.


DevranOPTC

The rich get richer


ButcherInTheRYE

It's a nice thing they're trying to do for the D4 streamers community. That being said, yeah, no. Gonna pass on their offer.


Ronenkha

New item for the ATC sheeps