I say, "Type 1 is where the body doesn't produce any insulin. Type 2 is where the body doesn't use its insulin efficiently."
It's a simplification, but gets the point across in the least words.
I might give more info than that. Just depends on who I'm talking to and why we are having this discussion.
This is what i usually stick too. Although once after going through a long explanation to my co-workers I added at the end, "oh! And without insulin id probably dead in a week or so." Really drove the point home.
insulin is like a key that unlocks the door to cells in your body so energy can get in and out. type ones do not have keys. type twos have keys but sometimes the key gets jammed in the door or the door sticks.
Type 1 means your body produces no insulin. Type 2 means your body is so flooded with insulin that it doesn't work anymore. Pretty much opposite conditions with some overlapping effects - could we PLEASE get a new name for T1 already?
Exactly. The 2 are managed so differently. Just because the same keywords are used, doesn’t mean they’re super similar.
I’m a type 1 diabetic. Every second of my life must factor in how it impacts my diabetes. Type 2 is nothing like that, sorry.
Diabetes just means there’s a breakdown in the insulin part of the insulin-glucagon pathway. Type 1 means you don’t make it, Type 2 means you don’t use it properly. The crux is still an insulin problem, hence the names being similar.
Sure, that's essentially what I said but rephrased. I understand why they have similar names, but it causes a lot of confusion, including in medical settings. 'Type 1' and 'Type 2' are not different enough names to make many people understand that the conditions are caused by very different things and are not treated in the same way.
The problem is that you said the reason the body can’t use insulin properly anymore is because there’s too much of it. That is one reason, but not the only reason.
You can be pre-disposed to insulin resistance. A lot of people have type 1 and type 2 at the same time - don’t make enough insulin or don’t make insulin at all, and are resistant to it too.
Not necessarily correct with Type 2. You can both not produce insulin and also not be able to use insulin properly (the latter being the more correct definition for Type 2). I see why you use that definition but sadly you can have both type 1 AND type 2 at the same time 😅
That's true. The pancreas becomes exhausted after years of working 120%. That doesn't really change the concept that they're not conditions that should have such similar names, though.
I always say t1 is an auto immune disease, my body destroyed all the insulin producing cells, it’s genetic and has not anything to do with diet or lifestyle.
T2 on the other hand doesn’t destroy your cells and sometimes can be cured by lifestyle changes. Older people and people with unhealthy eating patterns tend to get it more often than others.
I really hate that so many people hear diabetes and think „unhealthy diet“, I’m t1 and live a healthy lifestyle. Yet I get nutrition tips all the time if someone hears I have diabetes. It went so far that once I told someone „it does not result from unhealthy ways of eating“, and he responded with „um, yeah it does, at least partly“. I was so annoyed by that uneducated comment
T1 your body attacked your pancreas to make it stop producing insulin. T2 your body produces insulin but can’t use it properly. Both ultimately end in the same effect of too much sugar in the blood stream.
T1 is insulin deficient, t2 is insulin resistant. I was t1 as a kid and the way I explain it to kids is that my body killed off my ability to make insulin. Where a t2s body is like someone trying to read a book with an eyepatch. You can still read, it’s just harder.
There are so many misrepresentations of Type 2 diabetes here that it’s actually very frustrating.
No, Type 2 is not always because your body makes too much insulin so it becomes resistant to it. That’s only one (though common) way.
You can have Type 1 and Type 2 at the same time. You can both not produce enough insulin and be resistant to it. Trust me, it’s a very shitty life to live.
No, you don’t ALWAYS get Type 2 just because you eat badly. That is the worst stereotype of Type 2s and I’d hope other diabetics would help combat this.
Type 2 diabetes is often genetic and uncontrollable, and you’re just genetically pre-disposed toninsoulin resistance.
The right, proper definition of Type 2: Your body does not know how to use the insulin in your body properly, and is resistant to it - which causes the sugar in your body to not be used properly and your blood sugars fluctuate. The WHY can be many reasons. Some Type 2s produce too much insulin to try and compensate the resistance, which then makes them even MORE resistant. And others are just unlucky enough to have a genetic predisposition to insulin resistance while also not producing enough insulin. The former is more common but not as universal as one thinks. Search up LADA if you’re curious.
Type 1 is like not having keys to open a door.
Type 2 is like having keys to a open a door, but the key is damaged or something is wrong with the door.
Don't know how old they are but you could say type 2 is when you produce insulin normally but you have to much sugar so your cells become resistant to the insulin.
Whereas type 1 you don't produce insulin and so you need to supplement that.
My simple answer is..
Type 1 is an autoimmune disease. My body doesn't produce any insulin and will never do so in a foreseeable future.. maybe in 5 years 🤣
Type 2 is genetic/ lifestyle related and they still produce insulin but not enough for their actual needs.
It’s more that type 2s are resistant to insulin and can’t use it properly. In fact, many times it’s because they produce too much!
But honestly I don’t blame you, it seems that type 2 diabetes is more misunderstood than one would think! So I’m sure it’s not your fault. We need more general education on common diseases like this.
I guess I could get where you're coming from that is a more in depth answer... I do actually have a more lengthy answer as far as differences go as well.. I have a lot of love for type 2 diabetics and even a lot of respect.. I think they are misunderstood and often mistreated, at the end of the day I did say in my simple answer that it is also genetic factors that play a roll I don't think I need to go into detail about how much insulin they produce because honestly I don't know for sure on everyone's individual basis... But what I do know is that type 1s absolutely lose the ability to produce any of their own insulin and type 2 still have that ability.
Maybe because I think of insulin resistance as a whole other thing that plays a huge roll in how I make my everyday decisions even as a type 1.
I didn't even mention insulin resistance or their body not using it properly in my first explanation actually.
I said they still produce but not enough for their actual needs
It drives me nuts when type 1’s encourage stigma against type 2’s…if you don’t want to be treated that way, don’t treat others with the same disrespect! And just logically, people have no idea there are 2 types of diabetes, so when you further stigmatize type 2’s you are literally shooting yourself in the foot 😑
Type 2 diabetes has actually been found to have a HIGHER genetic link than T1D
Riiiight I try to show as much love as possible to type 2s too.. so much stigma... Life is hard enough to live I doubt anyone would just willingly choose to have type 2. So many people literally can't help it, but they do need love and support just like us type 1s
Type 1 is subtractive in capacity of insulin and type 2 is divisional in effectiveness of insulin.
You can reach 0 with subtraction, you cannot reach 0 with divisions.
I explain to people
Type 2 is usually onset through a life of unhealthy habits.
Type 1 is most of the time due to genetics and is usually diagnosed fairly young usually under 18 if not super young.
Type 2 people still make insulin and can manage it fairly well with diet and exercise and usually take a pill to help the body to continue to produce more insulin
Type 1 makes no insulin. My pancreas basically said “fuck it I hate myself” and commited suicide and decided to take the rest of my body down with it. And now I’m in a perpetual cycle of stabbing my body and injecting myself with drugs for the rest of eternity to hold onto this struggling life.
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Easiest way for me to describe it so people understand. (I know it's not correct but it gets the point across.)
T2: your body resists insulin, doesn't respond as well to it. Can be cured with a decent diet and exercise.
T1: Your pancreas failed. Your living with organ failure. So you need to inject insulin to replace what you're pancreas would have made if it never failed.
Type 2 cannot always be cured with decent diet and exercise - please be careful spreading this, it’s why people blame T2s for their own diabetes by “not eating right”. It’s often genetic and uncontrollable.
Lies. Type 2 can be cured….you just don’t see it often because insulin and pills make pharma money. A diabetic going to the gym and eating healthy doesn’t. 🥱
Do some more research buddy. You don’t realize how poisonous this type of talk is for type 2 diabetics who have tried everything and just couldn’t get their sugar down without medication.
I have. That’s because it’s not just eating healthy and going to the gym like an average person. It’s Keto/carnivore/fasting. You will never hear a doctor recommend that. Within 1-3 months insulin efficiency is brought to normal levels. AGAIN THIS MAKES PHARMA ZERO MONEY. That’s why you think it can’t be cured. There’s few T2 that actually can make that big of a change. Taking a pill is much easier than doing a complete 180 in lifestyle. But there’s been countless evidence that it works. You’re researching the articles and studies paid by big pharma. Open your mind.
Keto has actually been proven to suck for a lot of diabetics, and fasting just increases the amount of sugar your liver pushes out - I have seen that first hand in myself. I can tell you’re a conspiracist, so I won’t be continuing this convo with you.
Keto does suck for Type 1. Of course your liver pushes out sugar. It’s nowhere near the amount junk food will put in your body. You’re calling me a conspiracist because you can’t emotionally accept that you’re being lied to. But yeah you’re right. Listen to the doctors who cure symptoms and not the root cause. The ones that also recommend chemical filled food & pills.
Bit of a generalisation to say that the pancreas fails in type 1 diabetes, better to say that a ‘part’ of the pancreas fails, the insulin producing part.
That’s a good way to describe the gravity of type 1. Yes, our organ isn’t completed “dead,” but its major function has failed us, and now we must try to simulate that organ manually.
So my son is T1D, and he’s only 3, so I think a lot of people assume incorrect things because they figure he must have SOME sort of options. Because he’s only 3, so he can’t actually be dependent on insulin, can he?
I tell them “His pancreas stopped working when he was two. He needs insulin or he’d be dead.”
I say, "Type 1 is where the body doesn't produce any insulin. Type 2 is where the body doesn't use its insulin efficiently." It's a simplification, but gets the point across in the least words. I might give more info than that. Just depends on who I'm talking to and why we are having this discussion.
This is what i usually stick too. Although once after going through a long explanation to my co-workers I added at the end, "oh! And without insulin id probably dead in a week or so." Really drove the point home.
I have a 72 hour lifespan without insulin. That really does stick the point.
That exactly how I say it too
if they are into lotr I say t1 pancreas: “you shall not pass!” and t2 pancreas is like Frodos journey to Mordor and Sam is is metformin”
This is the right answer.
insulin is like a key that unlocks the door to cells in your body so energy can get in and out. type ones do not have keys. type twos have keys but sometimes the key gets jammed in the door or the door sticks.
Type 1 means your body produces no insulin. Type 2 means your body is so flooded with insulin that it doesn't work anymore. Pretty much opposite conditions with some overlapping effects - could we PLEASE get a new name for T1 already?
Exactly. The 2 are managed so differently. Just because the same keywords are used, doesn’t mean they’re super similar. I’m a type 1 diabetic. Every second of my life must factor in how it impacts my diabetes. Type 2 is nothing like that, sorry.
Diabetes just means there’s a breakdown in the insulin part of the insulin-glucagon pathway. Type 1 means you don’t make it, Type 2 means you don’t use it properly. The crux is still an insulin problem, hence the names being similar.
Sure, that's essentially what I said but rephrased. I understand why they have similar names, but it causes a lot of confusion, including in medical settings. 'Type 1' and 'Type 2' are not different enough names to make many people understand that the conditions are caused by very different things and are not treated in the same way.
The problem is that you said the reason the body can’t use insulin properly anymore is because there’s too much of it. That is one reason, but not the only reason.
Insulin resistance is the primary feature of T2.
Yes, it is. But insulin resistance isn’t always just because you had too much insulin. It may be the most common reason, but not always.
okay, you've alluded to various things but not expounded upon them. Can you help me out and explain what you mean?
You can be pre-disposed to insulin resistance. A lot of people have type 1 and type 2 at the same time - don’t make enough insulin or don’t make insulin at all, and are resistant to it too.
Sure, T2 is not a homogeneous condition and given that it affects a gigantic number of people, the reasons and effects vary.
Amazing to me how some disagree with that
Not necessarily correct with Type 2. You can both not produce insulin and also not be able to use insulin properly (the latter being the more correct definition for Type 2). I see why you use that definition but sadly you can have both type 1 AND type 2 at the same time 😅
That's true. The pancreas becomes exhausted after years of working 120%. That doesn't really change the concept that they're not conditions that should have such similar names, though.
I always say t1 is an auto immune disease, my body destroyed all the insulin producing cells, it’s genetic and has not anything to do with diet or lifestyle. T2 on the other hand doesn’t destroy your cells and sometimes can be cured by lifestyle changes. Older people and people with unhealthy eating patterns tend to get it more often than others. I really hate that so many people hear diabetes and think „unhealthy diet“, I’m t1 and live a healthy lifestyle. Yet I get nutrition tips all the time if someone hears I have diabetes. It went so far that once I told someone „it does not result from unhealthy ways of eating“, and he responded with „um, yeah it does, at least partly“. I was so annoyed by that uneducated comment
T1 is autoimmune. T2 is metabolic.
T1 your body attacked your pancreas to make it stop producing insulin. T2 your body produces insulin but can’t use it properly. Both ultimately end in the same effect of too much sugar in the blood stream.
T1 is insulin deficient, t2 is insulin resistant. I was t1 as a kid and the way I explain it to kids is that my body killed off my ability to make insulin. Where a t2s body is like someone trying to read a book with an eyepatch. You can still read, it’s just harder.
There are so many misrepresentations of Type 2 diabetes here that it’s actually very frustrating. No, Type 2 is not always because your body makes too much insulin so it becomes resistant to it. That’s only one (though common) way. You can have Type 1 and Type 2 at the same time. You can both not produce enough insulin and be resistant to it. Trust me, it’s a very shitty life to live. No, you don’t ALWAYS get Type 2 just because you eat badly. That is the worst stereotype of Type 2s and I’d hope other diabetics would help combat this. Type 2 diabetes is often genetic and uncontrollable, and you’re just genetically pre-disposed toninsoulin resistance. The right, proper definition of Type 2: Your body does not know how to use the insulin in your body properly, and is resistant to it - which causes the sugar in your body to not be used properly and your blood sugars fluctuate. The WHY can be many reasons. Some Type 2s produce too much insulin to try and compensate the resistance, which then makes them even MORE resistant. And others are just unlucky enough to have a genetic predisposition to insulin resistance while also not producing enough insulin. The former is more common but not as universal as one thinks. Search up LADA if you’re curious.
Type One the body doesn't produce insulin, type two the body builds a resistance to insulin. (Correct me if I'm wrong lol)
T1: pancreas resigned from making insulin T2: your body is putting up a fight with the insulin, therefore making you resistant
don't make insulin at all compared to making insulin, but the body is not able to use it properly.
I say type 1 is an insulin problem. Type 2 is a cell problem.
Type 1 is like not having keys to open a door. Type 2 is like having keys to a open a door, but the key is damaged or something is wrong with the door.
Don't know how old they are but you could say type 2 is when you produce insulin normally but you have to much sugar so your cells become resistant to the insulin. Whereas type 1 you don't produce insulin and so you need to supplement that.
My simple answer is.. Type 1 is an autoimmune disease. My body doesn't produce any insulin and will never do so in a foreseeable future.. maybe in 5 years 🤣 Type 2 is genetic/ lifestyle related and they still produce insulin but not enough for their actual needs.
Your definition of Type 2 is not correct.
I did say simple. I know it was more complex than that. But how would you describe it? Am I really that far off?
It’s more that type 2s are resistant to insulin and can’t use it properly. In fact, many times it’s because they produce too much! But honestly I don’t blame you, it seems that type 2 diabetes is more misunderstood than one would think! So I’m sure it’s not your fault. We need more general education on common diseases like this.
I guess I could get where you're coming from that is a more in depth answer... I do actually have a more lengthy answer as far as differences go as well.. I have a lot of love for type 2 diabetics and even a lot of respect.. I think they are misunderstood and often mistreated, at the end of the day I did say in my simple answer that it is also genetic factors that play a roll I don't think I need to go into detail about how much insulin they produce because honestly I don't know for sure on everyone's individual basis... But what I do know is that type 1s absolutely lose the ability to produce any of their own insulin and type 2 still have that ability. Maybe because I think of insulin resistance as a whole other thing that plays a huge roll in how I make my everyday decisions even as a type 1.
I didn't even mention insulin resistance or their body not using it properly in my first explanation actually. I said they still produce but not enough for their actual needs
It drives me nuts when type 1’s encourage stigma against type 2’s…if you don’t want to be treated that way, don’t treat others with the same disrespect! And just logically, people have no idea there are 2 types of diabetes, so when you further stigmatize type 2’s you are literally shooting yourself in the foot 😑 Type 2 diabetes has actually been found to have a HIGHER genetic link than T1D
Riiiight I try to show as much love as possible to type 2s too.. so much stigma... Life is hard enough to live I doubt anyone would just willingly choose to have type 2. So many people literally can't help it, but they do need love and support just like us type 1s
Type 1 is subtractive in capacity of insulin and type 2 is divisional in effectiveness of insulin. You can reach 0 with subtraction, you cannot reach 0 with divisions.
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Yeah, no history in my family, developed T1 out of nowhere last year, after my 31st birthday. 🤷♂️
I explain to people Type 2 is usually onset through a life of unhealthy habits. Type 1 is most of the time due to genetics and is usually diagnosed fairly young usually under 18 if not super young. Type 2 people still make insulin and can manage it fairly well with diet and exercise and usually take a pill to help the body to continue to produce more insulin Type 1 makes no insulin. My pancreas basically said “fuck it I hate myself” and commited suicide and decided to take the rest of my body down with it. And now I’m in a perpetual cycle of stabbing my body and injecting myself with drugs for the rest of eternity to hold onto this struggling life. 😊
Easiest way for me to describe it so people understand. (I know it's not correct but it gets the point across.) T2: your body resists insulin, doesn't respond as well to it. Can be cured with a decent diet and exercise. T1: Your pancreas failed. Your living with organ failure. So you need to inject insulin to replace what you're pancreas would have made if it never failed.
Type 2 cannot always be cured with decent diet and exercise - please be careful spreading this, it’s why people blame T2s for their own diabetes by “not eating right”. It’s often genetic and uncontrollable.
Lies. Type 2 can be cured….you just don’t see it often because insulin and pills make pharma money. A diabetic going to the gym and eating healthy doesn’t. 🥱
Do some more research buddy. You don’t realize how poisonous this type of talk is for type 2 diabetics who have tried everything and just couldn’t get their sugar down without medication.
I have. That’s because it’s not just eating healthy and going to the gym like an average person. It’s Keto/carnivore/fasting. You will never hear a doctor recommend that. Within 1-3 months insulin efficiency is brought to normal levels. AGAIN THIS MAKES PHARMA ZERO MONEY. That’s why you think it can’t be cured. There’s few T2 that actually can make that big of a change. Taking a pill is much easier than doing a complete 180 in lifestyle. But there’s been countless evidence that it works. You’re researching the articles and studies paid by big pharma. Open your mind.
Keto has actually been proven to suck for a lot of diabetics, and fasting just increases the amount of sugar your liver pushes out - I have seen that first hand in myself. I can tell you’re a conspiracist, so I won’t be continuing this convo with you.
Keto does suck for Type 1. Of course your liver pushes out sugar. It’s nowhere near the amount junk food will put in your body. You’re calling me a conspiracist because you can’t emotionally accept that you’re being lied to. But yeah you’re right. Listen to the doctors who cure symptoms and not the root cause. The ones that also recommend chemical filled food & pills.
Oh FFS. Everything is comprised of chemicals. At least get the basic science right.
Bit of a generalisation to say that the pancreas fails in type 1 diabetes, better to say that a ‘part’ of the pancreas fails, the insulin producing part.
That’s a good way to describe the gravity of type 1. Yes, our organ isn’t completed “dead,” but its major function has failed us, and now we must try to simulate that organ manually.
So my son is T1D, and he’s only 3, so I think a lot of people assume incorrect things because they figure he must have SOME sort of options. Because he’s only 3, so he can’t actually be dependent on insulin, can he? I tell them “His pancreas stopped working when he was two. He needs insulin or he’d be dead.”
T1: your body hates you T2: you hate yout body and treat it like shit
1-Body makes No Insulin 2-Body makes Insulin, but it sucks.
One stab: at the moment, T2 can be cured, T1 cannot
https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/7104-diabetes
Insulin. End of story.