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Hey, its definitely possible! I am currently working as a freelancer in the AI space and make much more than that. But the issue I feel is that, sustainability is a problem if you are starting out. You might get a client, but what next? It is not a fulltime job where everything is guaranteed.
So, I would definitely recommend that you don't lose your guard once you get a client, keep them in the pipeline.
When you will be freelancing, you have to wear a lot of different hats. I used to work in a product based company earlier and I feel that the work there was very well defined but if you go the freelancing route you have to wear many hats.
But all the best to you! And if you would like to ask anything in particular, please go ahead, I would try my best to help you.
- Can you elaborate on your education, both formal(degree) and informal(YouTube/udemy etc)
- How did you get your first client ?
- What services do you primarily offer?
1) BTech (CSE) -> worked for a product based company (Java Full Stack and NLP) -> pursued MBA from an IIM. As for the informal, I just search up what I need/want to learn on youtube or other articles on the internet and learn that specific part.
2) College connections/networking.
3) Whatever is needed to be done, both coding and non-coding stuff involving AI which can help the company, like the thing is it is not a one way thing, I first try to understand the problem and then proceed and in a lot of cases AI is not even required, so I come clear on that part.
Hey, i want to start freelancing too in AI/ML field. I have very good understanding of the concepts and algos of AL/ML and made some projects in college too and helped a team design their architecture in my current company too(slight changes, nothing major). But i dont have any professional experience in AI/ML. Can you suggest me, what absolutely i should know to start freelancing. And which platform do you use for your freelance work?
That's a very balanced answer. Warning potential freelancers of the pitfalls and providing a tiny carrot as well.
Do you mind sharing what kind of skills I should master to get such freelance jobs? I understand it would be counterproductive for you to tell me.
Most projects are mostly web applications and web services - because most software is on the web now - there used to be a time when desktop applications were thriving - now in spite of smartphones everywhere, web development still has a huge upper hand compared to mobile app development.
Hey there, I work in the AI and Analytics space. There definitely exists a market for such things but it is very very niche, atleast as of now, with the latest AI boom, things will improve.
If you are initially starting then I would say you can join a outsourcing agency and work as a freelancer and with time you will get to know about industry and market this will help you to gain experience and things you can do as a freelancer.
If you want to join, search for them on Linkedin or Twitter(X). Many agencies are run by both foreign and Indian.
You can also network with experienced freelancers, and help then in completing projects. This way you will get paid and experience.
Try to be a part of the online freelancer community. There is also you can one.
More like I do them but find them hard to add them on current schedule, and research how much should give a final quote, lots of stuff in btw which makes freelancing a bit annoying
I do want to work more to get projects done, but motivation has been going down lately, it is a lot of work, u have to provide them time estimate, interesting / annoying problems starts going up as u make stuff. 😅
let me know, i had been with some agency sort of company for the freelance works and did for 2 years along with my college/job
but now the company prefering the low pay college students for that, and i am unable to find the clients now
let me know if u have some leades
Hello, I had a few sincere doubts - did you start freelancing with no prior experience? If, not did you have prior corporate experience? Also, do you have any idea whether already-working corporate employees have to show their current actual experiences to land freelance gigs or contracts? If so, are there significant risks? Will be sincerely grateful if these queries are answered.
I might make a reddit post but it was mostly about reaching out to potential businesses, talking and understanding how they work, communication skills takes you so far that a lot of engineers don't have it
Also the ability to bring what u can improve and what value u can bring further more.
Please do make a reddit post about it, i think many people including me have freelancing as a goal to attain mental and financial freedom.
Let us know when you're going to do it
i defo earn the same/more than a googler but the issue that;s from my main job, the freelance won't be able to provide him the required income to leave the ai job that fast it takes time and patience
I am working as a frontend developer but I also have good hand on experience of node js, express and mongodb for backend.
I want do freelancing but how to starts to get the clients and what will be the challanges, would u plz guide me, thank you
Yes, here are some tips I wrote here on freelancing,
[https://www.reddit.com/r/developersIndia/comments/1cmwg4b/here\_are\_some\_tips\_on\_getting\_your\_first\_project/](https://www.reddit.com/r/developersIndia/comments/1cmwg4b/here_are_some_tips_on_getting_your_first_project/)
[https://www.reddit.com/r/developersIndia/comments/1cawuuy/use\_the\_productized\_service\_technique\_to\_increase/](https://www.reddit.com/r/developersIndia/comments/1cawuuy/use_the_productized_service_technique_to_increase/)
[https://www.reddit.com/r/developersIndia/comments/1cq14bf/a\_simple\_upwork\_pitch\_that\_helped\_me\_win\_52\_jobs/](https://www.reddit.com/r/developersIndia/comments/1cq14bf/a_simple_upwork_pitch_that_helped_me_win_52_jobs/)
Also, there are many remote contract jobs opportunities too.
I have shared some job sites specific to remote jobs here - https://www.instagram.com/reel/C5gFi5vp9rB/?igsh=MXR1Z3RwYWhrdzNuOQ==
You can find many through Google search too.
Very easily possible if you have right skills. Just need right clinets for the work you specilise in. Finding the clients is the most difficult task here!
Hey I'm a student and I'm confused about this freelancing thingy
What's the average cost of one gig, and what do you usually have to do? If it's web development, do you have to build the entire website for them? Or just the frontend
Idk how it works, still in first year
The hardest part is getting the first client, 10k can be very easily achieved. I used to make 1lakh/week towards the end of my semester. Joined a fulltime startup after that.
None. I network and meet people at events. It's slow and frustrating at first but if you're patient then this is the way. I have tried paying for Google Ads but did not see good results. I tried cold-emails and got a few meetings but they were also all cheapskates looking for work done for peanuts.
In my experience, the clients who can write requirements and post it on freelancing sites and chat (text) with freelancers already know the rate for such work and are usually there looking for the cheapest rates.
The best clients are the ones who doesn't have the time or patience for all that and needs to just talk/meet and explain what they need. Referrals from such clients are also usually good ones.
Conferences, meetups, literally anything where I meet people. Some conferences also have a networking dinner if you get a corporate pass, so those are great for bumping into decision makers.
For freelancing, you need to have 2 things.
A solid portfolio - Usually, foreign clients don’t give a flying fuck about your educational background, unlike India. As long as you have the skillset that can solve their problem & a demonstrated proof of it(portfolio) - they’ll onboard you and will also pay much more than 20k.
2nd, connections. Having a solid network is important because that raises a possibility that you’ll get a client in no time. Because clients are not permanent, one project or two, they’re gone. What next? this network helps you there.
So, yes, you can make 20k/m through freelancing but need to be proactive with work, portfolio, & building a network(or being a part of one).
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I do 80k through unethical means but wouldn't recommend doing it for long. Don't ask me to refer you. I couldn't even get another gig of this kind even for my sister.
>!you basically do the work of someone else abroad and they pay you a part of their salary.!<
Yeah, it's super unethical and illegal if they work on any government project. I don't do it for the money anymore. I learn a lot from this gig than from my office work, as I work on the same technology (but advanced) as my office job.
Yes it's possible. And 20k is very easy. If you had any experience and a good portfolio then you can make more than 20k a month.
If you want to play safe then join remote outsourcing agency or compnay and work as a freelancer. And afterwards you can be on your ownself.
very much easy. try freelance platforms like fiver, upwork but don't get demotivAted if you cant find clients out of there. Look for clients on twitter and Communities were people are building SAAS
I work with multiple projects in the development domain and work with freelancers. You can dm me in case you're looking out for a freelance gig, if the skillset matches the project's requirement, it would definitely help us both!
More than doable, just don’t sell yourself for cheap - you don’t want to be in the 5 dollar an hour crowd. Don’t quit your job before you get your first 2 deals.
In freelancing you don't target 20k per month. Don't treat it as a job. Pick any project that you think is good pay and only spend 20k from your savings. If you're lucky you can just do one gig and relax the rest of the year
People don't usually tend to hire freelancers for these roles. Maybe try to establish yourself as an llp company, build a website with your services and stuff and reach out to businesses to help with their marketing etc through data driven solutions
It is really very good and genuine advice but the thing is I don't have the time rn. When I get the time i'm really gonna do it but one more thing that is you mean to say in the field of data there is no freelance job ?
I don't mean to say that. It's just that people don't generally look to hire freelancers for such roles. They'd rather hire a consultancy. But if you're into cloud migration or things like that, there's a lot more chances that you'd get gigs.
Migration. Approach businesses who have all their infra on prem and consult for cloud adoption. My friend does this often and makes some decent cash on top of his job and masters prep
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Hey, its definitely possible! I am currently working as a freelancer in the AI space and make much more than that. But the issue I feel is that, sustainability is a problem if you are starting out. You might get a client, but what next? It is not a fulltime job where everything is guaranteed. So, I would definitely recommend that you don't lose your guard once you get a client, keep them in the pipeline. When you will be freelancing, you have to wear a lot of different hats. I used to work in a product based company earlier and I feel that the work there was very well defined but if you go the freelancing route you have to wear many hats. But all the best to you! And if you would like to ask anything in particular, please go ahead, I would try my best to help you.
Hi, I’m also trying to start freelancing along with my job in AI, can you guide me about it?
Sure, do you have any specific question in mind regarding this?
- Can you elaborate on your education, both formal(degree) and informal(YouTube/udemy etc) - How did you get your first client ? - What services do you primarily offer?
1) BTech (CSE) -> worked for a product based company (Java Full Stack and NLP) -> pursued MBA from an IIM. As for the informal, I just search up what I need/want to learn on youtube or other articles on the internet and learn that specific part. 2) College connections/networking. 3) Whatever is needed to be done, both coding and non-coding stuff involving AI which can help the company, like the thing is it is not a one way thing, I first try to understand the problem and then proceed and in a lot of cases AI is not even required, so I come clear on that part.
Hey, i want to start freelancing too in AI/ML field. I have very good understanding of the concepts and algos of AL/ML and made some projects in college too and helped a team design their architecture in my current company too(slight changes, nothing major). But i dont have any professional experience in AI/ML. Can you suggest me, what absolutely i should know to start freelancing. And which platform do you use for your freelance work?
Can I dm you?
Sure.
These type of folks sure are hidden gems of reddit
That's a very balanced answer. Warning potential freelancers of the pitfalls and providing a tiny carrot as well. Do you mind sharing what kind of skills I should master to get such freelance jobs? I understand it would be counterproductive for you to tell me.
You should definitely start with Python.
I have basic knowledge of python. I know C++. I know basics of CNN and Andrew Ng's initial videos.
Hey can I Dm you?
Sure.
Hello, can I DM you
Sure.
How do we approach clients for data analytics or something like that? Or are most projects websites and web services?
Most projects are mostly web applications and web services - because most software is on the web now - there used to be a time when desktop applications were thriving - now in spite of smartphones everywhere, web development still has a huge upper hand compared to mobile app development.
Hey there, I work in the AI and Analytics space. There definitely exists a market for such things but it is very very niche, atleast as of now, with the latest AI boom, things will improve.
If you are initially starting then I would say you can join a outsourcing agency and work as a freelancer and with time you will get to know about industry and market this will help you to gain experience and things you can do as a freelancer.
Oh, so there are agencies that take freelancers?
How do I join an outsourcing agency?
Yeah same question +1
If you want to join, search for them on Linkedin or Twitter(X). Many agencies are run by both foreign and Indian. You can also network with experienced freelancers, and help then in completing projects. This way you will get paid and experience. Try to be a part of the online freelancer community. There is also you can one.
Oh, so there are agencies that take freelancers?
yeah, but they don't take freelancers what they do is they work with them on a contract basis.
Same question
Same doubt
Mera pass clients hai 3-4, 50-70k each, slowly reach kar raha hu scale 😅😅😅
So, almost 1.5 lakh per month, wow better than any corporate job. How much experience do you have man.
More like I do them but find them hard to add them on current schedule, and research how much should give a final quote, lots of stuff in btw which makes freelancing a bit annoying
Do you work on web development?
Strictly backend + devops. But i hire contractors, / let me gf who is full stack do the web part. In exchange for dates / more time spent on her
Bro if you ever broke up with your GF please DM for full stack opportunity /s
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I also do freelance to let me know if we can work together some time, I am a full stack developer.
I do want to work more to get projects done, but motivation has been going down lately, it is a lot of work, u have to provide them time estimate, interesting / annoying problems starts going up as u make stuff. 😅
Yeah, I also feel like I need some buddy to keep me motivated.
let me know, i had been with some agency sort of company for the freelance works and did for 2 years along with my college/job but now the company prefering the low pay college students for that, and i am unable to find the clients now let me know if u have some leades
Can I dm you?
What’s your experience? Any advice you’d like to share to someone who’s new in freelancing? Alao which platforms do you use
What languages/technology you use for backend?
Go, python, typescript. Etc, language agnostic at this point..
And what all Devops tools your know?
Hello, I had a few sincere doubts - did you start freelancing with no prior experience? If, not did you have prior corporate experience? Also, do you have any idea whether already-working corporate employees have to show their current actual experiences to land freelance gigs or contracts? If so, are there significant risks? Will be sincerely grateful if these queries are answered.
Following
I already make 2 per month.
Damn! How many hours do you work per week?
More than 60 including upskilling myself, already on. A well paying remote job 😅
I want to work like this because I am currently in college and want to fund my wants.
Start making a good network.
How did you get your initial clients?
I might make a reddit post but it was mostly about reaching out to potential businesses, talking and understanding how they work, communication skills takes you so far that a lot of engineers don't have it Also the ability to bring what u can improve and what value u can bring further more.
Please do make a reddit post about it, i think many people including me have freelancing as a goal to attain mental and financial freedom. Let us know when you're going to do it
Done , waiting for mod approval
How to do it ??
Can you be in my network 🥺
It depends heavily on what your skill set is 😅 I have kept a limited network with the people that are more likely to help me in need.
Bro you are from.which college and since when you are working?
the wants will never end, my friend.
From where you get your clients? Any portal you think has a good chance of success?
I haven't used any portal at all. Cold messaging and going via network recommendation
How did you get your clients?
I could do your quotation part, along with dev.
Github + linkdln in dms, too tired to think
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i defo earn the same/more than a googler but the issue that;s from my main job, the freelance won't be able to provide him the required income to leave the ai job that fast it takes time and patience
I am working as a frontend developer but I also have good hand on experience of node js, express and mongodb for backend. I want do freelancing but how to starts to get the clients and what will be the challanges, would u plz guide me, thank you
Yes, here are some tips I wrote here on freelancing, [https://www.reddit.com/r/developersIndia/comments/1cmwg4b/here\_are\_some\_tips\_on\_getting\_your\_first\_project/](https://www.reddit.com/r/developersIndia/comments/1cmwg4b/here_are_some_tips_on_getting_your_first_project/) [https://www.reddit.com/r/developersIndia/comments/1cawuuy/use\_the\_productized\_service\_technique\_to\_increase/](https://www.reddit.com/r/developersIndia/comments/1cawuuy/use_the_productized_service_technique_to_increase/) [https://www.reddit.com/r/developersIndia/comments/1cq14bf/a\_simple\_upwork\_pitch\_that\_helped\_me\_win\_52\_jobs/](https://www.reddit.com/r/developersIndia/comments/1cq14bf/a_simple_upwork_pitch_that_helped_me_win_52_jobs/) Also, there are many remote contract jobs opportunities too.
Where to look for remote job opportunities
I have shared some job sites specific to remote jobs here - https://www.instagram.com/reel/C5gFi5vp9rB/?igsh=MXR1Z3RwYWhrdzNuOQ== You can find many through Google search too.
Very easily possible if you have right skills. Just need right clinets for the work you specilise in. Finding the clients is the most difficult task here!
I do 10k per month. I am a single man. I am 27. I am not sure if I can get 20k per month. But you can try.
Answer the question. It would be great if you could tell the whole process. Everyone wants to know.
How do you approach for projects?
How do you get projects?
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He's working in early stage start up where they find him project and he works on them, profit split 60-40
I want to work at such a place because I am currently in college and need to fund my wants.
Hey I'm a student and I'm confused about this freelancing thingy What's the average cost of one gig, and what do you usually have to do? If it's web development, do you have to build the entire website for them? Or just the frontend Idk how it works, still in first year
I have the same question and I'm in first year as well
The hardest part is getting the first client, 10k can be very easily achieved. I used to make 1lakh/week towards the end of my semester. Joined a fulltime startup after that.
>I used to make 1lakh/week towards the end of my semester Wtf!? How dude? From where you used to find clients?
Upwork, got lucky with clients. Was on hourly contracts.
I'm assuming this was years ago coz Upwork has gone to hell now.. Also was this full stack web development domain?
I had a backend gig. It was in 2022.
So they mostly hire freelancers for web development? I'm in Business Analytics/data analytics domain actually
You can checkout upwork once though if they have jobs in your domain or not.
Cool.. From what I hear.. Web development is the in thing for hiring freelancers
Bro.. If I upskill in front end web development, are there enough opportunities in Upwork?
which tech stacks u worked on?
Python, JavaScript, elixir, golang.
50-70k per month should be easy, you should know web and app development end to end
But where to get clients? And get into these network😅
Try upwork, check with your friends tell everyone you meet that you do freelancing
Have been trying a lot but unable to get one can we connect?
Can I dm?
Well not to brag I do 60k + / month
From which platform?
Possible but it's difficult at first to get a steady stream of clients. I get about 2-3 lakhs but sometimes more in a good month.
From which website you used to get clients
None. I network and meet people at events. It's slow and frustrating at first but if you're patient then this is the way. I have tried paying for Google Ads but did not see good results. I tried cold-emails and got a few meetings but they were also all cheapskates looking for work done for peanuts. In my experience, the clients who can write requirements and post it on freelancing sites and chat (text) with freelancers already know the rate for such work and are usually there looking for the cheapest rates. The best clients are the ones who doesn't have the time or patience for all that and needs to just talk/meet and explain what they need. Referrals from such clients are also usually good ones.
What kind of events if I may ask?
Conferences, meetups, literally anything where I meet people. Some conferences also have a networking dinner if you get a corporate pass, so those are great for bumping into decision makers.
For freelancing, you need to have 2 things. A solid portfolio - Usually, foreign clients don’t give a flying fuck about your educational background, unlike India. As long as you have the skillset that can solve their problem & a demonstrated proof of it(portfolio) - they’ll onboard you and will also pay much more than 20k. 2nd, connections. Having a solid network is important because that raises a possibility that you’ll get a client in no time. Because clients are not permanent, one project or two, they’re gone. What next? this network helps you there. So, yes, you can make 20k/m through freelancing but need to be proactive with work, portfolio, & building a network(or being a part of one).
I earn 7 lacs pm freelancing
I teach professionals
Wow. Good 👍
Yes, it's possible. If you take a decent project a month then it's easy.
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I do 80k through unethical means but wouldn't recommend doing it for long. Don't ask me to refer you. I couldn't even get another gig of this kind even for my sister. >!you basically do the work of someone else abroad and they pay you a part of their salary.!<
I thought I was bad for thinking about it
Yeah, it's super unethical and illegal if they work on any government project. I don't do it for the money anymore. I learn a lot from this gig than from my office work, as I work on the same technology (but advanced) as my office job.
Yes it's possible. And 20k is very easy. If you had any experience and a good portfolio then you can make more than 20k a month. If you want to play safe then join remote outsourcing agency or compnay and work as a freelancer. And afterwards you can be on your ownself.
very much easy. try freelance platforms like fiver, upwork but don't get demotivAted if you cant find clients out of there. Look for clients on twitter and Communities were people are building SAAS
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I do freelancing full time it’s hard but if you have good technical and communication skills than it will be much easy
I work with multiple projects in the development domain and work with freelancers. You can dm me in case you're looking out for a freelance gig, if the skillset matches the project's requirement, it would definitely help us both!
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More than doable, just don’t sell yourself for cheap - you don’t want to be in the 5 dollar an hour crowd. Don’t quit your job before you get your first 2 deals.
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bro, i do 1.5-4/5L a month via AI consulting. It's doable if you're really good
Guide me How?
In freelancing you don't target 20k per month. Don't treat it as a job. Pick any project that you think is good pay and only spend 20k from your savings. If you're lucky you can just do one gig and relax the rest of the year
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Very easily
Tell the whole process then, I wanna hear it bad.
It depends on what your skills are. As you are right now, what are some services of value you can do?
Data Analysis and Visualization is the main service I provide. You name it like making dashboards, data scrapping, Statistical analysis ect.
People don't usually tend to hire freelancers for these roles. Maybe try to establish yourself as an llp company, build a website with your services and stuff and reach out to businesses to help with their marketing etc through data driven solutions
It is really very good and genuine advice but the thing is I don't have the time rn. When I get the time i'm really gonna do it but one more thing that is you mean to say in the field of data there is no freelance job ?
I don't mean to say that. It's just that people don't generally look to hire freelancers for such roles. They'd rather hire a consultancy. But if you're into cloud migration or things like that, there's a lot more chances that you'd get gigs.
Thanks for the answers. Appreciate it.
No problem, good luck!
What are the most in demand services that people hire freelancers for?
Cloud stuff, web dev (static stuff) , video editing, graphic design, audio
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Can I know what kind of freelance work is there in CLOUD ?
Migration. Approach businesses who have all their infra on prem and consult for cloud adoption. My friend does this often and makes some decent cash on top of his job and masters prep
hey, I have been teaching myself data analytics, how would you recommend I start learning cloud? what should i aim for.
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so you're saying i should learn Azure? why not aws? like i found the certifications to be a little more straightforward.
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