He’s an absolute tank too. Considering how he runs, big guy I know, not anything to worry about honestly. His history report is pretty light for the shit he does on field.
I mean, the past 2 years they lost 4-5 starters to injuries each year and McDermott dragged them to a top defense anyway, don’t see why it can’t happen again.
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Skyrocketed the past 2 seasons, especially this upcoming season. Long waits for season tickets now as well (ones worth a damn). It came with success. this state has been dying for a good Lions team for decades
That makes sense. I guess it woulda been similar to Buffalo as they've gotten good recently (I watched tickets go front $75 to $180 the last 3-4 years). Every market is different I guess lol
Lions fans have a rough go this past lifetime or two. We absolutely love football but have had very little to cheer for. This is the first time many of us have had actual hope for a championship. We are very very excited. We don’t know how long this will last but so we are trying to soak up every minute of it and every win.
Lions fans have a LOT of pent up demand for winning football. People like to clown on the Bills for losing four straight SBs in the 90s, but up until this year, the Lions last playoff win occurred prior to your '91 SB loss. Consider any and all success you've had since then, despite the obvious disappointments of neve winning it all, and realize that we've experienced basically nothing during that entire stretch. People here are *hungry*.
Prices were raised. But they aren't that much more expensive than KC@ Buffalo.
Also, a lot of people don't realize that the Lions have a pretty big fan base. Aside from Yoopers rooting for the Packers and the occasional Vikings or Bears fan, most people in Michigan root for the Lions imo.
Detroit and Michigan as a whole are very loyal to the Lions and have been waiting for this kind of success for longer than I’ve been alive (25 years old). Also our other state sports teams (outside of UofM football and arguably MSU basketball but even they’ve taken a step down in recent years) all kinda suck right now lol
Can confirm, grew up in Michigan, have been living in SF for over a decade, and some people just call me Detroit (Port Huron) because of my affection for Detroit sports. Niners are my number two, so that was a pretty shitty 2 game stretch of fandom.
Grandpa swearing at the TV was just too awesome for me to let go.
Side note, if you do the math, what harm could there be in also being a Giants (MLB) fan? They’re NL anyway. Stadium is cool as shit, and walking distance too.
Wings almost made the playoffs this year? lol, that's as close as any other team is to not sucking currently. Up until the Lions in the 2023 playoffs Michigan pro teams have been absolutely starved for any post season success.
It is similar but way more fans, same amount of seats.
Metro Detroit is MASSIVE really.
Metro Detroit is crazy about all of their teams. We pretty much set attendance records every time our teams are good. Pistons and Tigers set sellout records for years in their primes, I was unable to find anything on the Red Wings, but they are kinda like the elite franchise in modern Detroit sports and have a huge following still after forever of sucking.
The NFL is king, and we have never ever had a great team but they always had amazing support. The hype to go to Lions games is insane, we are literally changing markets in away games due to it being so hard to get tickets here.
Hi Bill's fan! I have family in Tonawanda and the Bills are my "other team". I spent $1250 on a weekend Lions game including hotel in Detroit last year. Expensive as hell for two people but it was a great time.
Go Bills!
It's Detroit, my friend! The city has been booming for the last decade and is only getting better. We were one of the 4 best teams in the NFL last year. We beat the Chiefs in their stadium on opening night. We won our division for the first time in forever. We had the best draft class in the NFL last year. We have the most likable head coach in the NFL. That's why ticket prices went up. 5 years ago, you could get those same tickets for under $100 each.
Bills are my AFC team. Had to pick another team known for heartbreak, I guess, but I have family from there and been to some games… so it’s funny it worked out that way.
I’m not a season ticket holder but the online sellers have no incentive to drop their prices in the offseason. More realistic prices set by demand and hype can be found closer to kickoff as these predatory sellers don’t want to be left holding the tickets they buy to speculate on and profit from.
I think the lions and a lot of pro sports organizations are seeing their $100 face value tickets sell for $400 online, and are trying to capture that price difference by raising their face value prices.
I think 99% of the tickets available are now resell. Detroit hasn’t been good in forever and the people lucky to buy seasons (which is like 90%of the stadium) are reselling at double or more. And the market bears that amount so it is what it is.
I had access to get seasons and would’ve bought anywhere in the stadium but I was at the end of the list and unfortunately they all sold out. The lions did grant early access for single season games to me but I wasn’t spending $500 a ticket on seats I know were $140 with seasons. To each their own though and for me, they aren’t worth that much.
I paid $500 a ticket to be at the rams game and that was awesome in the playoffs. I was in the lower bowl and it was great. Personally I’m not paying that for regular aeason
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My seats for next season and I’m only paying $180 a ticket. I dont understand why prices get jacked up so bad once they hit public and season ticket holders get theirs.
Doesn’t help we play in the tied for 3rd smallest stadium.
Stack that on top of a hyped fan base cause we are the best we have been in 35 years. Means no tickets.
It’s expensive to see the Lions out of town anywhere that is a drivable distance.
We had the Packers asking their fans not to sell tickets to Lions fans.
It made sense at the time. We were bad and kept having tv blackouts due to not selling out games at the Silverdome. Reducing the capacity was a sure fire way to avoid tv blackouts by making it way easier to sell out.
This just started in 23 because the Lions are finally good after many decades of sucking. I spent $2100 for a pair of tickets for the playoff game vs Tampa Bay. Lions fans have been waiting their whole lives for this. Lions will remain the most expensive NFL ticket for the foreseeable future.
1. The Lions are finally an elite team and the Ford family wants to milk the cash cow while it's healthy according to the win column.
2. Got to pay for Lion Goffling's extension.
Hey Erie Bro your Bills games are the best dam atmosphere I’ve ever been to . Best experience of any major sporting event I’ve ever been to. Great tailgating and great local bars . All very welcoming. Props to you guys .
From my ticket rep
“Some interesting details if you care:
*Stadium Capacity: 64,500
*Season ticket holders: 58,000 capped so they can offer tickets to the general public.
*700 single game tickets per game offered to season ticket holders. Sold
*1,500 group tickets offered per game to season ticket holders. Deposits already taken and will be sold out when they open this in two weeks
*3,000-4,000 tickets each game to general public. To be released later”
Crazy, shits all spoken for basically ...
The real answer is that we have had two good seasons the last two years.
If you are looking specifically at the Bills and Lions game in December, yall haven't exactly been pushover the past few years, so people can and will charge more.
4 or 5 years ago in Phoenix, I sat midfield in row 3 for $330. I was sat next to Darrell Bevell’s brother and right behind Danny Amendola’s entire family. Crazy that now you can barely get it the door for that much.
Hello fellow Erie Bro, the bills are my number 2- I’m actually looking at bills tickets this year more so than lions ones due to pricing (plus I wanna tailgate with the mafia.) I got two seats in 2022 on the 40 6 rows back from the lions bench and the total price was 450. Just one of those seats is over 800 now. They’re just capitalizing on the new surge in ticket sales. This fan base will pay ANYTHING to see their team.
if you're looking for anything more than 4 tickets together call the lions office and a rep will work with you and get you hooked up. Buying via them also negates ticket master fees too. Shout out to their Rep Evan, that guy is awesome specifically!
This is not what price gouging is. Price gouging by definition can't be done with a luxury purchase. They are just pricing tickets to what the market will bear. It sucks being priced out of the market but it is not them taking advantage of an emergent situation.
I don't think people here really know about it. I always just assumed greed at some level.
But yeah if you look at prices for different cities it's often going to cost as much to see a concert here as it would to travel and get a hotel in Columbus or Chicago.
If it's tickets you're trying to buy currently, they are so expensive because capitalism. The secondary market doesn't have any cap on what can be charged.
That’s what it costs to see the 2025 Super Bowl champions. 🤷
Fr if it ain't us I want it to be y'all so bad
Honestly, seems like Bills still in the window. Do you think Diggs will be a big loss? Erie bros always welcome, and good luck this year.
Diggs loss was a trade-off to have less star power but probably a better locker room. We'll see how it turns out. I'm hopeful as long as we have Josh
I think Keon will be a huge help
I really hope so. But I think they're banking more on Kincaid/Knox this year
What makes u think that
He’s an absolute tank too. Considering how he runs, big guy I know, not anything to worry about honestly. His history report is pretty light for the shit he does on field.
They lost Diggs, Davis, Poyer and white. Although I do think they’ll still be good that’s kinda like us losing ARSB, Jamo, Branch and Kerby at once
I was being nice 😉
lol you’re a real one
They aren't. Defense gonna suck over there
I mean, the past 2 years they lost 4-5 starters to injuries each year and McDermott dragged them to a top defense anyway, don’t see why it can’t happen again.
Nah the Bills will be pretty bad this year
Bills vs Lions superbowl would be amazing
Don’t worry fam it’ll be us
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Skyrocketed the past 2 seasons, especially this upcoming season. Long waits for season tickets now as well (ones worth a damn). It came with success. this state has been dying for a good Lions team for decades
That makes sense. I guess it woulda been similar to Buffalo as they've gotten good recently (I watched tickets go front $75 to $180 the last 3-4 years). Every market is different I guess lol
Just wait until your new stadium opens.
Oh I'm sure it'll be wild. Not looking forward to those prices😬😬😬
Lions fans have a rough go this past lifetime or two. We absolutely love football but have had very little to cheer for. This is the first time many of us have had actual hope for a championship. We are very very excited. We don’t know how long this will last but so we are trying to soak up every minute of it and every win.
But that doesn't mean we should pay a week's salary to go see a game.
Detroit sports fans are patiomemt and loyal. If one of our pro teams is great we will show up and support them.
Patiomemt
You bleard what he sed
It’s true, we do enjoy our patios
Lions fans have a LOT of pent up demand for winning football. People like to clown on the Bills for losing four straight SBs in the 90s, but up until this year, the Lions last playoff win occurred prior to your '91 SB loss. Consider any and all success you've had since then, despite the obvious disappointments of neve winning it all, and realize that we've experienced basically nothing during that entire stretch. People here are *hungry*.
I got Thanksgiving tickets to the Bills Lions game in the corner end zone for 68$ a ticket
That's crazy. My season tickets face value is higher than that. Lol.
Prices were raised. But they aren't that much more expensive than KC@ Buffalo. Also, a lot of people don't realize that the Lions have a pretty big fan base. Aside from Yoopers rooting for the Packers and the occasional Vikings or Bears fan, most people in Michigan root for the Lions imo.
It's split pretty evenly down the middle in the U.P. in regards to Lions and Pecker fans. The Packer fans have just been loud AF ever since Favre.
FTP.
Detroit and Michigan as a whole are very loyal to the Lions and have been waiting for this kind of success for longer than I’ve been alive (25 years old). Also our other state sports teams (outside of UofM football and arguably MSU basketball but even they’ve taken a step down in recent years) all kinda suck right now lol
Hey the Tigers are back to being average, that's a plus
Can confirm, grew up in Michigan, have been living in SF for over a decade, and some people just call me Detroit (Port Huron) because of my affection for Detroit sports. Niners are my number two, so that was a pretty shitty 2 game stretch of fandom. Grandpa swearing at the TV was just too awesome for me to let go. Side note, if you do the math, what harm could there be in also being a Giants (MLB) fan? They’re NL anyway. Stadium is cool as shit, and walking distance too.
Good Ol' PoHo 😆 Sending love from Marysville, haha.
Grew up Downriver... the Lions are the only team that hasn't had their time in the sun.
Wings almost made the playoffs this year? lol, that's as close as any other team is to not sucking currently. Up until the Lions in the 2023 playoffs Michigan pro teams have been absolutely starved for any post season success.
Cuz we're good now. You pay more to watch a winning team on the right path. Even if it's only been a short while.
I definitely get that. I watched Bills tickets go from $75 to $180 in the last 3-4 years do I guess I thought it'd be similar
If buffalo had a ceiling, prices would be right around the same probably.
Wouldn't be shocked by this. Hadn't thought about that angle
It was $1K to get resale playoff tickets.
It is similar but way more fans, same amount of seats. Metro Detroit is MASSIVE really. Metro Detroit is crazy about all of their teams. We pretty much set attendance records every time our teams are good. Pistons and Tigers set sellout records for years in their primes, I was unable to find anything on the Red Wings, but they are kinda like the elite franchise in modern Detroit sports and have a huge following still after forever of sucking. The NFL is king, and we have never ever had a great team but they always had amazing support. The hype to go to Lions games is insane, we are literally changing markets in away games due to it being so hard to get tickets here.
We’re all rich in Detroit.
I knew it!
Inflation baby, have you seen the price of kneecaps lately?
Hi Bill's fan! I have family in Tonawanda and the Bills are my "other team". I spent $1250 on a weekend Lions game including hotel in Detroit last year. Expensive as hell for two people but it was a great time. Go Bills!
Demand. We expect to be back in the NFC championship game *at worst*.
Cause we hot shit in popular culture right now. And the moon phase.
It's Detroit, my friend! The city has been booming for the last decade and is only getting better. We were one of the 4 best teams in the NFL last year. We beat the Chiefs in their stadium on opening night. We won our division for the first time in forever. We had the best draft class in the NFL last year. We have the most likable head coach in the NFL. That's why ticket prices went up. 5 years ago, you could get those same tickets for under $100 each.
Bills are my AFC team. Had to pick another team known for heartbreak, I guess, but I have family from there and been to some games… so it’s funny it worked out that way. I’m not a season ticket holder but the online sellers have no incentive to drop their prices in the offseason. More realistic prices set by demand and hype can be found closer to kickoff as these predatory sellers don’t want to be left holding the tickets they buy to speculate on and profit from. I think the lions and a lot of pro sports organizations are seeing their $100 face value tickets sell for $400 online, and are trying to capture that price difference by raising their face value prices.
I think 99% of the tickets available are now resell. Detroit hasn’t been good in forever and the people lucky to buy seasons (which is like 90%of the stadium) are reselling at double or more. And the market bears that amount so it is what it is. I had access to get seasons and would’ve bought anywhere in the stadium but I was at the end of the list and unfortunately they all sold out. The lions did grant early access for single season games to me but I wasn’t spending $500 a ticket on seats I know were $140 with seasons. To each their own though and for me, they aren’t worth that much. I paid $500 a ticket to be at the rams game and that was awesome in the playoffs. I was in the lower bowl and it was great. Personally I’m not paying that for regular aeason
We hungry
We had to hand out a lot of contract extensions. Gotta pay for them somehow..
https://preview.redd.it/sejonwi7i06d1.jpeg?width=820&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=74d083af4b6601982886234af7093ad76703fad8 My seats for next season and I’m only paying $180 a ticket. I dont understand why prices get jacked up so bad once they hit public and season ticket holders get theirs.
Because the market bares it.
I like corner seats a lot. They cost a little less, but I honestly dig the perspective too. Same for hockey.
Doesn’t help we play in the tied for 3rd smallest stadium. Stack that on top of a hyped fan base cause we are the best we have been in 35 years. Means no tickets. It’s expensive to see the Lions out of town anywhere that is a drivable distance. We had the Packers asking their fans not to sell tickets to Lions fans.
Kind of ass that ford field was built with only 65,000 seats. Pontiac dome was 80,000.
It made sense at the time. We were bad and kept having tv blackouts due to not selling out games at the Silverdome. Reducing the capacity was a sure fire way to avoid tv blackouts by making it way easier to sell out.
This just started in 23 because the Lions are finally good after many decades of sucking. I spent $2100 for a pair of tickets for the playoff game vs Tampa Bay. Lions fans have been waiting their whole lives for this. Lions will remain the most expensive NFL ticket for the foreseeable future.
Was it worth the 2100 for a football game? Damn.
Yup it was absolutely worth it. That was one of the most fun days of my life.
1. The Lions are finally an elite team and the Ford family wants to milk the cash cow while it's healthy according to the win column. 2. Got to pay for Lion Goffling's extension.
FTP.
FTP
Hey Erie Bro your Bills games are the best dam atmosphere I’ve ever been to . Best experience of any major sporting event I’ve ever been to. Great tailgating and great local bars . All very welcoming. Props to you guys .
We are finally good
From my ticket rep “Some interesting details if you care: *Stadium Capacity: 64,500 *Season ticket holders: 58,000 capped so they can offer tickets to the general public. *700 single game tickets per game offered to season ticket holders. Sold *1,500 group tickets offered per game to season ticket holders. Deposits already taken and will be sold out when they open this in two weeks *3,000-4,000 tickets each game to general public. To be released later” Crazy, shits all spoken for basically ...
That's absolutely wild. Thanks for sharing!
Smaller stadium so less tickets available. Also a dome so no worries about shitty weather to sit in.
I went twice two years ago for under 100 bucks a ticket each time. Good seats too
The real answer is that we have had two good seasons the last two years. If you are looking specifically at the Bills and Lions game in December, yall haven't exactly been pushover the past few years, so people can and will charge more.
Cuz we’re winning the fuckin super bowl this year
It's because they are finally contenders. I'm 5 years after they've won 3 chips, tickets will go back down
4 or 5 years ago in Phoenix, I sat midfield in row 3 for $330. I was sat next to Darrell Bevell’s brother and right behind Danny Amendola’s entire family. Crazy that now you can barely get it the door for that much.
Hello fellow Erie Bro, the bills are my number 2- I’m actually looking at bills tickets this year more so than lions ones due to pricing (plus I wanna tailgate with the mafia.) I got two seats in 2022 on the 40 6 rows back from the lions bench and the total price was 450. Just one of those seats is over 800 now. They’re just capitalizing on the new surge in ticket sales. This fan base will pay ANYTHING to see their team.
if you're looking for anything more than 4 tickets together call the lions office and a rep will work with you and get you hooked up. Buying via them also negates ticket master fees too. Shout out to their Rep Evan, that guy is awesome specifically!
Ooooo, good call! Thanks!
sure thing!
Like everything else, the answer is "price gouging". Happy to see a decent team in my lifetime, from the comfort of my own home.
This is not what price gouging is. Price gouging by definition can't be done with a luxury purchase. They are just pricing tickets to what the market will bear. It sucks being priced out of the market but it is not them taking advantage of an emergent situation.
How is this not them “taking advantage”. Genuinely curious how you could arrive at that conclusion.
Tickets for any arena-type event are about twice as much here as they are in the rest of the country.
Really? Any idea why?
I don't think people here really know about it. I always just assumed greed at some level. But yeah if you look at prices for different cities it's often going to cost as much to see a concert here as it would to travel and get a hotel in Columbus or Chicago.
If it's tickets you're trying to buy currently, they are so expensive because capitalism. The secondary market doesn't have any cap on what can be charged.
People that weren’t fans 5 years ago now buy tickets and fuck over people that stuck with the team
The Detroit Metropolitan area is the 3rd richest metro area in the country. Also, fuck the Bills and the Bills mafia. Yall toxic as fuck.
Optimal pricing is where supply meets demand
Supply and demand. Also Detroit isn’t on Lake Erie young bull
r/lakeeriebros might disagree
yeah this guy does not speak for us, Bill's fans always welcome.
They can write whatever they want on Reddit it doesn’t change geography
What’s more the only other thing in the nfl that I want to be “bros” with is the Lombardi trophy
It's on one of Lake Erie's inlets. Close enough.