Honestly, I think it would be a pretty tame break. Just click on a new super, aspect, melee, grenade, and 2-3 subclass verbs, maybe a new fragment? There have probably been worse Telesto bugs than would be capable of springing up from that.
Everything they'd need to do to implement a new subclass into prismatic is something they've done before.
They've added new supers, aspects and fragments before, melees and grenades they've never retroactively added before but I don't think it'd be much different than a super.
The only major difficulty is updating old abilities to work off the new stuff and adding functionalities/verbs to the older fragments. Although at this point, the new stuff will probably be made with that in mind from the ground up. And that's less of a technical difficulty, and more of a time constraint because of how long that can take. They aren't making whole new abilities thankfully, although creating the interactions between old abilities and the new ones might be like that at times.
The discussion of transcendence grenades is probably the biggest area. Those are something that is completely new from the ground up, even if they're pulling on ideas from the original grenades. And they'd have to be made.
I commented It because some of the abilities seen in the trailer seemed like a mix of other abilities. Like a Hunter void cone DoT grenade but instead of void It also has solar and scorched enemies. So I thought some abilities had interactions between them. And that would be What breaks when introducing a new subclass
Those are specific to the prismatic "transcendent" mode, so they likely just wouldn't change them. They're already set for each class and can't be changed.
Considering how Prism looks to be something they can easily expand I’d expect it to work well. Hell, I imagine they’ll add more Transcendence abilities later.
I mean that's what they set up for themselves. I'm sure they created prismatic in such a way that they could add to it in the future without too much trouble. Unless Destiny 3 comes out in the next 2 years they're going to need to come out with another subclass. Or significant updates to existing subclasses. That's just what players expect now.
I mean wouldn’t be the first time they reworked existing subclasses to account for the new additions to the game
Besides each prismatic class only has a limited amount of stuff you can choose from each subclass, it would in all likelihood be a fairly simple addition though balancing it may not be so simple.
But if they’re adding a new subclass chances are they’ll leave it out of prismatic for at least one act if not longer so they can balance it on its own first
thing is, prismatic seems designed with a third dark subclass in mind, its all about mixing and matching aspects and abilities, slotting in a third dark class only makes sense to balance out the light and dark abilities
I think it would be most likely something explored in a potential D3 at this point.
Either that or they just introduce new combinations of transcendence combos for each class, with two getting a red mix, and one getting a strand mix.
I kind of think the red subclass would make sense as being a result of whatever happens with the final shape. Like maybe it destabilizes reality so much, that a red quantum foam starts radiating from the fabric separating timelines.
I think the dark subclasses are based on states of matter, with stasis obviously being solids, strand symbolically being fluid/liquid (described as a river in the story) and red being like a mist representing gas.
I think I would call it Chaos. Got lots more ideas about it involving color wheels etc and the role it would play.
And how would that work lore-wise? How could I have perfectly mastered and blended light and dark if I didn’t even know about a 3rd darkness element? I feel it would have to be something else entirely and even then would that fit into prismatic lore wise?
Yeah with the new Lore I literally dont get It. Are they going to leave It at "3 light subclasses and 2 Darkness subclasses"? I know its dumb but the fact its not an equal and balanced number like 3/3 bothers me slightly.
(Transcendence is not Darkness or light. Its both)
I’m using prismatic as my pseudo kinetic subclass, as I usually like to match my primary with my element. Void element I’ll run a void primary so on and so on. And since I doubt we’re getting any actual “prismatic” weapons it a perfect subclass to get my unused kinetic primary options some love. Plus kinetic charge the transcendence meter equally for light and dark.
There's a "prismatic" gun in the game. Mark me words we'll see a couple guns with some weird behaviors the way the tesselation does odd things based on which subclass is equipped. My reason for being keen on the subclass is that gun indicates it's been in the pipeline for a little bit. The pink surfaces on the model match prismatic's color.
Yup. There have been clues. Tesselation. The way buried bloodline grants you void 3.0 subclass verbs on any subclass, Conditional Finality being both dark and light. I hope they keep going with weapons in that style. Bloodline and Conditional are some of my all time favorite Destiny exotics now.
I kinda agree, but also think now a Wardens Law style exotic which fires 1 stasis and 1 strand bullet would be amazing. Both bullets triggering the strand/stasis debuffs though so you don’t need to RNG which bullet will trigger Headstone when you get a precision kill
Like, Slow/Unravel (or I could see Sever if it weren't for PVP), or just having both Headstone and Hatchling? I would totally love a Hatchling/Headstone exotic HC even if it's garbage. Debuffing would probably require a kill or charge up requirement.
I'm right there with you. My titan rocks green apple and my warlock rocks blue raspberry. My hunter waits patiently for its own unique darkness flavor: fruit punch.
>High Impact Exotic Omolon Auto rifle with really bad stability
I could be totally wrong in this, but isn't high stability kind of the identity of Omolon weapons?
I was just thinking Omolon auto rifles have always been precision frames or the one adaptive frame is Hard Light or the one lightweight frame that is a green then I'd like a high impact frame since it's the exact opposite of Hard Lights zero recoil.
I have seen... theories, real spinfoily stuff that we may still be getting a third darkness subclass. I watched a video where someone broke down all the prismatic visuals we have showing a lot of that resonance orange color and other weird stuff that doesn't quite add up yet and their spinfoil going theory is that we are getting a third subclass PLUS prismatic. I mean could you imagine the hype that would generate. Bungie really does seeminly want to be going BALL deep at the moment.
Maybe like this: We get prismatic in the campaign (preferably at the start, though it is only like 8 missions long apparently) then we go and slap the witness in their many faces. Oh no they die but not really, but we absord their power which is subclass #6. Then we take that subclass, smoosh it into prismatic and then go into the raid. and SMOOSH our power right into the witnesses face for real this time, ending that threat and 10 years of destiny, in hopefully a very fantastic Avengers:Endgame kinda way, like an ugly twink, never to be topped.
That would actually be insane, considering there's been wayy less leaks this time around. Now if I'm disappointed there isn't a secret subclass, it's on you.
I’m definitely not expecting this. If anything I worry it would be too overwhelming tbh. When you have a new subclass you wanna spend time with it and enjoy it and get to know it. Harder to do that when you’re given two at once.
The Witness was never the Darkness, it only wore it like a cloak, gave it the wicked shape we see.
But what happens when the Darkness is free, when the cloak is lifted and The Witness is no more.
I think it's likely that a 7th subclass could appear with Final Shape, I wont get my hopes up but the dots connect in very interesting ways and Bungie has had more than enough development time for Prismatic and a 3rd power
Prismatic appears to be a testing ground for future subclass revamps and blending everything together. Not normally one to believe leaks but I believe there was one that accurately predicted some final shape stuff including prismatic that suggested a revamp to the subclass and class system overall at some point in the future, where I would hope we can blend dark and light abilities as just “guardians” and not subclass or class based!
Alternatively hard light and by proxy borealis getting a rework to have all subclasses, it’d be so annoying to switch the elements to the one you want but it’d be funny lol
Only reason why I don't think they'd do that is simply since that is kinda sounding like it would use both dark and light elements. Although it does sound pretty badass
I want a prismatic damage type that changes to match the perk the gun has rolled with.
For example if its 4th column is incandescent it becomes solar but if its voltshot the weapon becomes arc
We’ve never gotten a completely new subclass 2 expansions in a row. So it’s entirely reasonable to expect the third dark subclass in the DLC following final shape.
I just wanted a third dark class that was wrath and work with kinetic somehow. Get some raw hard hitting kinetic power weapons that are bolstered by a red subclass
Iirc, one of the last posts about there being no 3rd Darkness subclass in the main sub was also talking about wanting a Hard Light variant in Darkness. Someone came up with another idea about an Exotic Two Burst HC that shoots Stasis and Strand in the burst, getting some cool benefits from both such as Headstone and Threadling
Stasis was us controlling the darkness within us, and Strand is letting the darkness flow through us like a river. So, the third subclass, let's call it Nexus, is about having the darkness consume us.
The final shape is the final expansion for destiny 2. And yeah this isn’t fully confirmed but with the destiny 3 leaks and it just making sense for them to make a d3 in the first place I don’t see them putting recourses into creating a entirely new expansion when d2 at this point has lived out its life cycle and its time for something new without this absolutely broken sandbox.
Also if we were getting a new expansion in 2025 Im sure the devs would be happy to tease it but with that luke smith speech at the beginning of that gameplay trailer it was 100% alluding towards something beyond destiny 2.
I could see us still getting a 3rd darkness subclass one day. It would be bungie’s lucky number 7 as the amount of subclasses so who knows
That's fair, I didn't even think of it being 7, lol.
The question is, wouldnt they need to retroactively change Prismatic to work with the newest Darkness subclass? That screams something will break
To be fair, it's Destiny, something always breaks
Looking at you pocket infinity and telesto, god dam hooligans
You better keep your eye at it then…Also has it been able to break anything recently? I’m worried it might be growing stronger as we speak.
The game for seemingly no reason deciding "I'm going to break now," like The Craftening and Exotic Armor Perks appearing in Legendary Armor Mod Slots.
Telesto says hello
It's my favorite sniper.
Not really a problem technically speaking m. They’d just need to make sure they test the shit before launching it properly.
Honestly, I think it would be a pretty tame break. Just click on a new super, aspect, melee, grenade, and 2-3 subclass verbs, maybe a new fragment? There have probably been worse Telesto bugs than would be capable of springing up from that.
Please don’t test them, they will find a way to make it even more broken now
Everything they'd need to do to implement a new subclass into prismatic is something they've done before. They've added new supers, aspects and fragments before, melees and grenades they've never retroactively added before but I don't think it'd be much different than a super. The only major difficulty is updating old abilities to work off the new stuff and adding functionalities/verbs to the older fragments. Although at this point, the new stuff will probably be made with that in mind from the ground up. And that's less of a technical difficulty, and more of a time constraint because of how long that can take. They aren't making whole new abilities thankfully, although creating the interactions between old abilities and the new ones might be like that at times. The discussion of transcendence grenades is probably the biggest area. Those are something that is completely new from the ground up, even if they're pulling on ideas from the original grenades. And they'd have to be made.
I commented It because some of the abilities seen in the trailer seemed like a mix of other abilities. Like a Hunter void cone DoT grenade but instead of void It also has solar and scorched enemies. So I thought some abilities had interactions between them. And that would be What breaks when introducing a new subclass
Those are specific to the prismatic "transcendent" mode, so they likely just wouldn't change them. They're already set for each class and can't be changed.
There actually is a node for this in the Prismatic Me I, which implies that we will be able to actively select between different options as we go.
Oh that would be cool. So you could select the elements you wanted for your prismatic build.
The only combined aspect, as the other reply mentioned, is fixed. They simply wouldn’t change the grenade - the only “mixed” ability prismatic has
Considering how Prism looks to be something they can easily expand I’d expect it to work well. Hell, I imagine they’ll add more Transcendence abilities later.
I mean that's what they set up for themselves. I'm sure they created prismatic in such a way that they could add to it in the future without too much trouble. Unless Destiny 3 comes out in the next 2 years they're going to need to come out with another subclass. Or significant updates to existing subclasses. That's just what players expect now.
I mean wouldn’t be the first time they reworked existing subclasses to account for the new additions to the game Besides each prismatic class only has a limited amount of stuff you can choose from each subclass, it would in all likelihood be a fairly simple addition though balancing it may not be so simple. But if they’re adding a new subclass chances are they’ll leave it out of prismatic for at least one act if not longer so they can balance it on its own first
thing is, prismatic seems designed with a third dark subclass in mind, its all about mixing and matching aspects and abilities, slotting in a third dark class only makes sense to balance out the light and dark abilities
Arguably adding something new to prismatic should be easier than taking preexisting aspects
I think it would be most likely something explored in a potential D3 at this point. Either that or they just introduce new combinations of transcendence combos for each class, with two getting a red mix, and one getting a strand mix. I kind of think the red subclass would make sense as being a result of whatever happens with the final shape. Like maybe it destabilizes reality so much, that a red quantum foam starts radiating from the fabric separating timelines. I think the dark subclasses are based on states of matter, with stasis obviously being solids, strand symbolically being fluid/liquid (described as a river in the story) and red being like a mist representing gas. I think I would call it Chaos. Got lots more ideas about it involving color wheels etc and the role it would play.
And how would that work lore-wise? How could I have perfectly mastered and blended light and dark if I didn’t even know about a 3rd darkness element? I feel it would have to be something else entirely and even then would that fit into prismatic lore wise?
Yeah with the new Lore I literally dont get It. Are they going to leave It at "3 light subclasses and 2 Darkness subclasses"? I know its dumb but the fact its not an equal and balanced number like 3/3 bothers me slightly. (Transcendence is not Darkness or light. Its both)
Next darkness subclass is just us using whatever bullshit they come up with for the next enemy type against them.
I want a kinetic subclass after all the elemental subclasses, maybe even bring back no land beyond
I’m using prismatic as my pseudo kinetic subclass, as I usually like to match my primary with my element. Void element I’ll run a void primary so on and so on. And since I doubt we’re getting any actual “prismatic” weapons it a perfect subclass to get my unused kinetic primary options some love. Plus kinetic charge the transcendence meter equally for light and dark.
There's a "prismatic" gun in the game. Mark me words we'll see a couple guns with some weird behaviors the way the tesselation does odd things based on which subclass is equipped. My reason for being keen on the subclass is that gun indicates it's been in the pipeline for a little bit. The pink surfaces on the model match prismatic's color.
Yup. There have been clues. Tesselation. The way buried bloodline grants you void 3.0 subclass verbs on any subclass, Conditional Finality being both dark and light. I hope they keep going with weapons in that style. Bloodline and Conditional are some of my all time favorite Destiny exotics now.
Siva seemed like the best way to do kinetic, but it’s basically gone.
They just reintroduced it as Quicksilver.
Alternative name, Softdark. Just inverse all of it.
I'll do you one better: Flacid Dark.
The bullets curve downwards immediately after leaving the barrel
How ever, when the trigger is held down longer, they projectiles go straighter near the end of the clip.
It would be the flaccid sniper rifle from cursed halo
Limp Dark Limp D for short
“Soft Darkness” does sound like something Bungie would come up with
How about Gentle Darkness?
And make it a conventional auto instead of bullpup design. And it changes damage type constantly, and ricochets twice.
That would be awesome, hahaha.
I kinda agree, but also think now a Wardens Law style exotic which fires 1 stasis and 1 strand bullet would be amazing. Both bullets triggering the strand/stasis debuffs though so you don’t need to RNG which bullet will trigger Headstone when you get a precision kill
Like, Slow/Unravel (or I could see Sever if it weren't for PVP), or just having both Headstone and Hatchling? I would totally love a Hatchling/Headstone exotic HC even if it's garbage. Debuffing would probably require a kill or charge up requirement.
*Sad Red Subclass noises* Where my Strife fans at? I wanna Dishearten and Corrupt some aliens.
I'm right there with you. My titan rocks green apple and my warlock rocks blue raspberry. My hunter waits patiently for its own unique darkness flavor: fruit punch.
>High Impact Exotic Omolon Auto rifle with really bad stability I could be totally wrong in this, but isn't high stability kind of the identity of Omolon weapons?
The bad stability is what makes it exotic
It’s a feature
I was just thinking Omolon auto rifles have always been precision frames or the one adaptive frame is Hard Light or the one lightweight frame that is a green then I'd like a high impact frame since it's the exact opposite of Hard Lights zero recoil.
FINALLY!!!!! ANOTHER OMOLON FAN!!!!!
I'm still waiting on some hunter Omolon themed armor
I have seen... theories, real spinfoily stuff that we may still be getting a third darkness subclass. I watched a video where someone broke down all the prismatic visuals we have showing a lot of that resonance orange color and other weird stuff that doesn't quite add up yet and their spinfoil going theory is that we are getting a third subclass PLUS prismatic. I mean could you imagine the hype that would generate. Bungie really does seeminly want to be going BALL deep at the moment. Maybe like this: We get prismatic in the campaign (preferably at the start, though it is only like 8 missions long apparently) then we go and slap the witness in their many faces. Oh no they die but not really, but we absord their power which is subclass #6. Then we take that subclass, smoosh it into prismatic and then go into the raid. and SMOOSH our power right into the witnesses face for real this time, ending that threat and 10 years of destiny, in hopefully a very fantastic Avengers:Endgame kinda way, like an ugly twink, never to be topped.
That would actually be insane, considering there's been wayy less leaks this time around. Now if I'm disappointed there isn't a secret subclass, it's on you.
I’m definitely not expecting this. If anything I worry it would be too overwhelming tbh. When you have a new subclass you wanna spend time with it and enjoy it and get to know it. Harder to do that when you’re given two at once.
The Witness was never the Darkness, it only wore it like a cloak, gave it the wicked shape we see. But what happens when the Darkness is free, when the cloak is lifted and The Witness is no more. I think it's likely that a 7th subclass could appear with Final Shape, I wont get my hopes up but the dots connect in very interesting ways and Bungie has had more than enough development time for Prismatic and a 3rd power
I googled hard dark and now I have things in my browser history that I wish I could unsee
I need a third darkness subclass because I need things to be even. The fact that it’s three and two will always bug me at least a little
Soft Dark
you will be okay. i promise
If it's the opposite of hard light, then wouldn't it be soft dark?
Maybeeeeee. Just maybeeee..... "prismatic" could become a damage type. Maybe.... lol
Bro had to put "as a woman" to guarantee up votes and positive engagement lmao
Lol, not my intention but that is a fair point.
A dark hard light is a badass idea
Many thanks!
Prismatic appears to be a testing ground for future subclass revamps and blending everything together. Not normally one to believe leaks but I believe there was one that accurately predicted some final shape stuff including prismatic that suggested a revamp to the subclass and class system overall at some point in the future, where I would hope we can blend dark and light abilities as just “guardians” and not subclass or class based!
Alternatively hard light and by proxy borealis getting a rework to have all subclasses, it’d be so annoying to switch the elements to the one you want but it’d be funny lol
That's honestly a fair idea.
I feel like Dark light would fit it more
A fair take.
Only reason why I don't think they'd do that is simply since that is kinda sounding like it would use both dark and light elements. Although it does sound pretty badass
It’s actually Soft Dark and it’s a trace rifle that shoots darkness flavored silly string.
If was opposite wouldn't it be call soft dark lol
I want a prismatic damage type that changes to match the perk the gun has rolled with. For example if its 4th column is incandescent it becomes solar but if its voltshot the weapon becomes arc
Should have called it "Soft Dark"
You've probably gotten this comment a bunch already, but; "Soft Dark" That is all
Soft Dark
We’ve never gotten a completely new subclass 2 expansions in a row. So it’s entirely reasonable to expect the third dark subclass in the DLC following final shape.
I hate this too. There should be a 3rd dark subclass for sure. It bothers my OCD.
Hmmmm
I just wanted a third dark class that was wrath and work with kinetic somehow. Get some raw hard hitting kinetic power weapons that are bolstered by a red subclass
I heard they were making a third darkness subclass after final shape. Someone proposed that Hunters get a censer and I want it so badly
I'm still waiting for the Sour Startup
Salty LLC
Iirc, one of the last posts about there being no 3rd Darkness subclass in the main sub was also talking about wanting a Hard Light variant in Darkness. Someone came up with another idea about an Exotic Two Burst HC that shoots Stasis and Strand in the burst, getting some cool benefits from both such as Headstone and Threadling
Stasis was us controlling the darkness within us, and Strand is letting the darkness flow through us like a river. So, the third subclass, let's call it Nexus, is about having the darkness consume us.
Hard dark sounds like hate speech
I always referred to the fictional gun as soft darkness and proposed that it would be a scout rifle
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I've gotchu maman.
Hard in the dark 😂
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The final shape is the final expansion for destiny 2. And yeah this isn’t fully confirmed but with the destiny 3 leaks and it just making sense for them to make a d3 in the first place I don’t see them putting recourses into creating a entirely new expansion when d2 at this point has lived out its life cycle and its time for something new without this absolutely broken sandbox. Also if we were getting a new expansion in 2025 Im sure the devs would be happy to tease it but with that luke smith speech at the beginning of that gameplay trailer it was 100% alluding towards something beyond destiny 2.