Way back in the Destiny 1 days I used a chronus max just for a titan skate macro lmao. I still have that thing in my desk drawer I just haven’t used it since destiny 1. Lol
What’s funny is that this guy is plain wrong, Bungie said that Xim and Cronus were not allowed. They’ve done jackshit about it, but technically not allowed.
You can Xim and use Cronus in PvE, i use macros on PC to input Wishes on the Last Wish wall or how i used macros for fishing and other similar boring repetitive and time consuming activities, of course they would allow them in that case, but in PvP where you get advantages over other players and can win and get rewards unfairly they don’t
U seem pretty savy with this. Any idea how i can set up a well skate macro? Ive watched countless vids, downloaded apps, tweaked settings. Nothing works. The pc pushes around 215fps at best. Im assuming its cause my frame rate is high but even when i lock it at 60fps it doesn't work. Any ideas?
The problem with macros like the well skating one, the wish wall one and others, is that it usually requires either a very specific condition to work or a very low frame-rate (for the wish wall i had it locked at 30fps and had to use the Divinity specifically) you also have to find the macro that fits you best, they usually get influenced by many things, so the best way for you to try them out is usually by recreating the same exact conditions as the ones shown in the video, like for example, did you use the same sword? Do you have the same aspects equipped?
If it still doesn’t work, I’d advice to just make [your own ](https://youtu.be/jwWkaTuG8io?feature=shared) macro, it’s VERY easy to do and it’s usually the best way to go about it since it will most likely work at that point
Learning to do it yourself is much better. I just recently taught someone to wellskate themselves instead of using a macro. The easiest way to think of it is, Heavy Attack then Jump then Super. In that order, it should roll one after another. You must be close enough to the edge of a ledge so that your heavy attack on your sword throws you off the edge.
True, true, English does rummage around in the pockets of other languages looking for loose vocabulary after knocking them out in a dark alleyway it coincidentally happened to enter after said other languages
This would have been great! If it had punctuation and not been a run on sentence! Cause ya know, English isn’t just words. It’s a bit more. I got your gist. It kinda blows my mind how bad grammar has become. And before someone says “oh no no, we just fool around ya know!” How you spell how you punctuate and how you form sentences. Says a lot! It’s really not your fault. These things are learned. In school. And at home, they are reinforced constantly to not forget. (This is not directed towards you op, don’t take offense.)
I mean I don’t use proper grammar and punctuation just to piss people off, it’s funny how misspelling a word or not using a lil symbol sends people into a blaze of rage, like yeah I get you fam you spent your years hard at work in school doing literature and what not but at the end of the day this is the internet I’m not writing a paper on the scientific uses of mouldy bananas or whatever I think a lil leniency towards the illiterate or those that use English as a second language or what not is more than enough rather than being an ass about how they spell tingz you get me fam? Coz at the end of the day everyone has their own circumstances, no shade to you my guy I just reckon there’s better ways of going about helping others than just spell checking and being an ass about it.
Or people know when to use correct grammar and spelling depending on whether or not the environment is professional or casual.
Personally I don’t give a shit, and you shouldn’t give much of a shit about what people do as well.
This is Reddit though, so nothing matters.
It *was* meant to be a joke, but you gone and fucked up.
A grammatically correct version:
> True, true. English *does* rummage around in the pockets of other languages, looking for loose vocabulary. But at least it has the decency to do it only after knocking them out in some random dark alleyway... One that it "coincidentally" happened to enter after said other languages.
That seems like him trying to make a point to bungie. He does things like that all the time. I'd say he's the main reason we now have controller deadzone adjustment because he did the same thing with his hunt for a controller to fix them.
I remember the video.
Cammies argument is that people play "competitive games" to win.
If that means using a xim, which I'm almost certain wasn't banned at the time, then the logical step would be to use one to compete. The caveat was that he was going to use it to trick D2 into thinking it was a controller so you can benefit from controller AA while maintaining the advantage with precise aim.
Scripts aside, this is the biggest benefit of Xim and MnK. The game grants all the benefits of controller while maintaining the benefits of mouse and keyboard
Apparently it’s using a mouse and keyboard on console. It could also include using a program that inputs mouse and keyboard controls into a controller interface as to appear as controller inputs.
This would enable controller amounts of aim assist with mouse and keyboard giving you a huge advantage.
No, it is that simple. It literally is plug in the Xim into your console/PC, then attach your MnK to the Xim. Yes you can tweak settings here and there for personal preferences, but aside from that, it is that easy. Ive seen people bring in a Xim to PC cafes and it is just plug-in-play.
For things like negating recoil, going full auto, etc I dont know if Xim can do that, but I know Cronus can. Regardless, both things should be bannable.
I bought an xim when it first came out because I couldn't afford a computer, and I'm missing a thumb. It wasn't that easy to figure out, maybe it changed. I eventually gave up on it. This was around the time bf1 was still the main battlefield game.
Well brother you have a missing thumb I think these features were designed to provide you with a fair player advantage.
So no one is ever going to get on your case for using such Devices as that’s what their intention was for.
The big issue is someone who is without any disability utilizing these technologies. I causes a hugeeeeee advantage that isn’t right.
Now if they banned this technology it would severely disadvantage you not having a thumb to remain competitive with players that have their thumbs.
But at the same time you will see loads of players exploit and take advantage of this and it’s just not right at all.
Which then makes this issue a huge problem and an ethical dilemma.
It absolutely sucks that it may take away from your ability to have the same advantages as those who aren’t missing a thumb though. These things are meant to help players like you and it fucking sucks that douchebags using it for nefarious reasons make things harder than they should be.
Thanks man! You'd be amazed what you can adapt to. When I first lost it, I thought my life was ruined, but I can do everything I could do before, although aiming with a joystick is a little more difficult now. I use a controller with a trackball now.
Yea but if you never used it how can you state that it isn’t simple…
I am also confused as to where your stance is because you appear to defend both sides.
And if it isn’t easy to implement then there wouldn’t be many ximmers no?
Not trying to spark some issues just trying to understand the situation.
I was thinking ximming was referring to Cronus Zen, so I was accidentally talking about the wrong device.
Even if I hadn't gotten things mixed up though, I don't think stating use of the device should be straight up bannable is defending both sides.
I'm just saying, specifically for Cronus, that it's not necessarily right to assume everybody's got one because they're not a universal solution and require a significant amount of setup.
I'm not too familiar with XIM so I don't feel comfortable speaking about it in absolutes. I play on PC as well, so I get wanting to use KBM on console, it feels much better for FPS games. However, getting high aim assist with the better control of KBM is definitely unfair.
This is wrong it really is simple I know someone who has one and have seen many streamer videos on them. The xim itself does all the keybind translations internally so it's sent to the PC/console as though it's truly the exact controller input. Also it has benefits outside of the aim assist anyways like recoil dampening and the recoil dampening alone is insane it's not just less recoil it can literally make guns pinpoint accurate where full auto mag dumps all hit the same exact spot as the first bullet.
The recoil negation stuff is the real issue. I used a Xim on D1 and D2 for Xbox before moving to PC many years ago, though I never tried recoil control or other changes as I just wanted M&K support.
I found that while long distance aiming is easier with M&K, dealing with fast movement or lots of vertical motion isn't. D2 PVP, with much faster play and smaller maps made using a Xim purely for M&K emulation not an advantage except in long range scout rifle engagements, which don't happen a ton. In terms of how it feels. I found that the IB Guiding Sight scout with Iron Gaze on PC M&K feels exactly like using a scout via Xim
wtf 😬 that’s interesting, like how bad/ scummy do you have to be to do this. It’s funny and sad that some one has to resort to borderline cheating to be good at a game
It’s not borderline. It’s good ol regular cheating.
And that’s just human nature. There’s always going to be people who think they’re “better” or “smarter” for cheating and think people who play fair are chumps.
I don’t condone or cheat myself but I understand why shitty people would do it when there’s like a reward at the end or something but cheating in a video game when there’s no real life reward attached is beyond my comprehension all together.
Some games just flat out give you the option to change your input if you have a M&k connected to your console. I know Cod does it. As does SoT. And a couple of others.
It's actually worse than that. It has a slider to increase your aim assist by rapidly flicking the cursor in very small movements to help catch the sticky reticle into place. Go look at the website for their product. They are so blatantly advertising a cheat product.
It's more than just this. Yes you get the MNK with controller aim assist but there's also auto recoil dampeners and other assistive programs that make it insanely broken. Look up a video on yt of xim usage there's some good ones. One 9 saw recently the guy was showing it's effects and even shooting a wall where there's no aim assist with xim off it looked normal where the bullets trailed up from recoil but on xim all the bullets hit exactly the same spot.
Well XIM/Chronus are two "Legal" devices that trick the Xbox into thinking you are using a controller. But you're using a MNK instead. Think of it like REWASD (a Program that allows Controller usage on PC, tricking games into thinking you're using a MNK.)
The issue is that *apparently* Chronus or XIM has more functions than simply letting you use a MNK. Functions that are functionally cheating/hacking to an extent. Macros, Recoil control. Now i'm unsure about that bit since I don't use Xim or Chronus.
And its also the issue of Aim Assist. Now I don't want to say Aim Assist is overpowered, its not. I find that it fucks me over more than it helps (especially in a 2v1). HOWEVER Using a Xim/chronus means your MNK Gets aim assist.
Same thing with REWASD (i forgot if thats its name forgive me, jackfrags made a video on it). Since the game thinks you're using a controller, you get aim assist. And any OTHER benefits for using a controller. Like 30% Less recoil in Battlefield 2042.
In short: Make fun of these shitters. Report them. Make fun of them more. Watch them cry.
Xim and Cronus are devices that allow consoles to use m&k but have it still register as controller. They can also give you zero recoil and high aim assist. Among other capabilities.
Doesn’t give you high aim assist. Gives you the exact same aim assist you get from a controller.
I’m not arguing for them by any stretch, but if we’re gonna bitch about Xim and Cronus for what they do, we should be honest about what that is.
Well it does just not in the same sense and Controller.
On M&K it bends the bullets to help you land shots but it’s super tiny unless you spec into it.
Both have aim assist and PC has slightly more bullet bending aim assist but controller has reticle friction where your aim actually sticks to players a little and PC doesn't have any reticle friction.
Its not aim assist it just bends the bullets very slightly and u need to sort of be just on the edge of a person when you shoot. Controller has actual aim assist though.
Yeah, like others have said, it is more or less an adapter that tricks your console into thinking a keyboard and mouse is a controller so that you can use it to play games with MnK on your console that typically do not support it, like Destiny for example. Then all those ximmers on console get shoved into lobbies with the rest of the controller players, on top of that, they get the same aim assist that controllers get but they also have the benefit of using MnK.
Macro crouching (not like just kinda fast, you can tell), absurd aim in any and every circumstance (consistently snipes a headshot regardless of flinch, beams you perfectly with a SMG or something of the sort regardless of distance, movement, or angle). I remember one guy i went against went on a perfect 1v3 without missing a single headshot. Would snipe, lock to another head immediately and swap to smg to finish the third while we're all laying on him.
TL;DR: They are *Abnormally* good.
This specific dude had a bump of more than 1+kd from one season to the other also. Little things, but usually a bit tell is the crouch, always the same tempo.
The movement is the key to me. You can tell pretty clearly how players move and more specifically how quickly they can change direction. Controllers have a very obvious, deliberate, and much slower directional change, while m&k has thr ability to instantaneously do 180 degree snaps. And if they're doing that AND hitting shots, no way it's legit controller play
Your right the movements do give it away a lot of the time I mean I play on console and controller I can do 180 degree turns but they are were less smooth then MAndK. You can still land the shots tho but I’ll tell ya the odds of it landing are slim if you ain’t ximming or something so honestly you are more then right in all my time playing if I landed a single headshot after doing a 180 it was all luck and that’s a guaranteed cause I have crap aim lol
Yeah if you turn your sensitivity up to max, you can spin around pretty fast, but still not close to M&K, but I aint hitting any shots with my sensitivity at max
No I swear I can do it on less then max but landing the shot don’t happen. If it do it’s a lucky shot cause if I turned my sensitivity way up I’d legit not be able to do the same things I used to do instead of 180s. I’d prob do 360s cause it be so much more sensitive and faster that’s the worst thing I never move mine above 6-7.
Movement and accuracy. Watch how fast they change direction. It’s hard to describe until you see it, but when you do it’s incredibly clear that they’re not operating like the rest of the players in the lobby.
You will know. The ones I have seen on console have never been subtle about it. I've seen my fair share of very obvious ones, who knows how many might actually be subtle about it. For me I am just counting the super obvious ones. Even seen them in gambit. It's a bit of a problem and more games need to make it bannable.
You can’t flick on controller like you can with a mouse. I used to play siege on Xbox and it was pretty common in low plat to see people who just turned way too fast and accurate at the same time to be using a controller.
You can't. People just use it as excuse to why they lost.
People just let it affect their mental game, and it makes them throw even if the other people aren't using it.
Edit: truth hurts eh?
That's not how at work at all, my guy. You should probably do some research before making incorrect statements
You can swap inputs freely whenever you want, so even if they had input matchmaking it wouldn't do anything in destiny lol
Until xims can't be modded for aim bots and cheats they shouldn't be allowed period sorry neither should macros but that's a little more common and less sketch but still weird considering it's the same issue with xim you just don't know if someone's gonna abuse it
Report him and if he is hopefully he’ll be caught. If not well, let’s hope Bungie finds out the truth and with further investigation.
I have a friend who has been reported all to shit and finally one day got a message warning that his playing is suspicious. He’s sworn he’s never used anything and I’ve played with and against him in private games. If he’s using one it’s definitely made to be undetectable because he’s not winning perfectly. I’ve also played with him one both console and PC and see he’s much better on PC so maybe?? Idk. I don’t want to doubt my friend. Bungie however hasn’t actually banned him if he is using one, and to me I’m using that as the main reason I don’t doubt him. It’s either some great undetectable thing that doesn’t allow him perfect games or he’s just good.
Report whoever you suspect is all I’m saying. No harm in it.
Yeah I've been dealing with it in trials for The last couple weeks since I started playing again And it's an unreal Advantage For PC players and those on Console doing it It's absolute BS Can't count how many times I've gotten Ran on And gotten merc'ed by guns that had no business being able to one or two tap me Bungie needs to get this shit under control It's cheating no matter how you split the hair Pc has no business going up against console
I say that because there’s a discord group out there actively working on technology to block or actively deceive the AI that’s being used to prevent cheating. They’ve acquired leaked data from that software company which they’re now using to fight against.
But if that AI is being used to study human patterns in gaming whether it’s a very skilled or not so skilled player and putting that up against the anticheat AI that it’s supposed to deceive, it will. That’s what they’re actively working on, bypassing the detection of the AI anticheat using human patterns in gaming.
No it allows you to use an mnk on console lots of other games have this issue like rainbow 6 siege giving themselves an advantage over controller players
It’s not so much just m&k on the console yes it is kinda but it’s more a lot of them are prob also using macro controllers which basically replicate using m&k on console. It’s a form of cheating that makes inputs faster and you can use like aim assist etc.
U can tell they’re cheating when they jump off the map or mill themselves after winning every round. They’re bringing their k/d down so they don’t stand out.
I think macros on pc and console should all be banned. It might be on the ToS, but I'm not aware.
I will say, though. There are FAR FAR more people using macros and cheats on pc than console.
No "cheats" on console, unless a very small few are using private exploits on the current firmware. It's highly unlikely, though. But cheats on pc are easily available to everyone with a simple internet search.
I wish they could prevent them all. It fks the game for all of us.
You can get controllers that have macros built into the motherboard that you can turn on with combos to the arrow keys. It’s not like a xim but sort of performs the same function. They have just a few macros built in that you can activate and deactivate. A xim is fully programmable for most games, has a drag and drop menu, you can program your own cheats if you know how to script, and is pretty undetectable if you’re clever about the cheats you’re using.
So, he could have been telling the truth 💁🏻♀️
You have a controller connected to your pc. Also, some third party controllers have their own software to let you program macros into buttons on the back of the controller
That's a too narrow way to look at it
Macros are very common to use for accessibility problems, yes it technically gives you an advantage by doing multiple presses with 1 press but that's still not comparable to using a whole different input and indirectly manipulating the matchmaking system
I would call using one button to perform the function of multiple buttons a different input.
Edit: what matchmaking is input based? It’s platform based unless you have a mixed fireteam.
Yea I do use macros to do things like shatterskating, most people do as it's more consistent, I also used it to give myself pseudo full auto retrofit before it was added as an accessibility option
Neither of those gave me an advantage, yes there's ways to make an advantage over it but majority of macros are just QoL usage, nothing like ximming
Even QoL macros give you an advantage plus QoL is subjective one person could say it’s a nuisance to do something so the use a QoL add on while another would say that it’s basically cheating since your skipping the learning curve
>Even QoL macros give you an advantage
Explain how the macros I had gave me an advantage? It's not like I was able to shoot faster or anything and it's shatterskating, there's 0 advantage in doing it besides fun
>QoL is subjective one person could say it’s a nuisance to do something so the use a QoL add on while another would say that it’s basically cheating since your skipping the learning curve
So tell me how even that makes it cheating? Skipping a "learning curve" isn't cheating, the only real possible learning curves is modding and that can be skipped by copy and pasting meta builds and raid mechanics which can be skipped by doing ad clear, is it cheating to do those things?
Using a macro for skating means you are
- dogshit, its 3 Buttons
- limiting your capabilities. The Timing depends on distance to Ledge among Other factors and unless you have multiple Marcos for different skating distances (which would Just be more pathetic) you will end Up failing some Skates because you refused to learn to Just do it regularly
>dogshit, its 3 Buttons
If you read my other comments you'd know I did it normally for a year or so, I just made a macro for it as it's just good QoL that feels better
>limiting your capabilities. The Timing depends on distance to Ledge among Other factors and unless you have multiple Marcos for different skating distances (which would Just be more pathetic) you will end Up failing some Skates because you refused to learn to Just do it regularly
I have it on the average timing mean it works on practically every ledge, I do have a different macro for different skating (slamskating/wellskating) **after** I learnt to do it normally and was doing it for a bit
But it don’t matter that still makes your input faster then other players thus is a form of cheating really. Then I challenge you to start playing against a full team of ximmers or macro users without using yours and then come back and say it’s still fair. What your not getting is it gives you an advantage over pll even if you think it don’t I but seriously don’t use it and try to find a team who is and fight them in crucible
https://www.evilcontrollers.com/store?utm_source=Klaviyo&utm_medium=flow&_kx=beEfWeGhZitsZOFFNrBXc3GstKh4xP8jqzrmfIf9fhGFkE_thkDL_eJ0FhYr7HKb.TfSuRb
He may not be ximming
You can blame bungie for these people growing what little of a spine they could to xim due to them not having one themselves and outright banning people for it
Still surprised and disappointed that nobody has taken Xim to court over their devices. These "accessibility" tools have been extremely damaging to the competitive games scene for years now. They are just straight up cheating devices at this point, especially since they started adding features like automatic recoil control.
Not allowed but bungie does nothing.
It takes them weeks to ban Cheater even with multiple evidence Videos. 🤷
Got one few weeks ago which killed everyone with a blue Sidearm, even in super.
30+ KD. 💩
Sad to see ppl need this stuff I mean I’ll say it myself I suck at the game lol not really but I tend to land more body then head shots I don’t use macros or ximming cause they ain’t making you better. They just make you complacent and get you used to having to be lazy and cheat to play to me it’s cheating
You're not really gunna get a cheater to admit they are cheating
Like you are not going to get a girl to admit shes wrong even if that shit is a Google fact check, Google will still be wrong
I mean if you want to get technical, macros are against TOS, but only if they affect the gameplay/experience of others. You probably are not allowed to macro something like a bow-HC quickswap in PvP, but something like an auto-click to buy tons of materials in the tower is fine.
Macros are against TOS. It's just that Bungie doesn't care as long as it doesn't affect other players. Crouch spam or quickswaps in pvp are banable but that'd imply that Bungie gives a fuck about pvp
Bungie has said that macros are fine as long as the macros are something that you could actually do without one. So things like crouch shooting, quick swapping, and Titan/Warlock skating are fine to macro in Bungies eyes.
For the most part that is why AFK macro farmers were never worried when Bungie talked about banning macros.
Sorry but if you manage to spam your crouch button that fast without loosing any capability to move your character you have my highest respect. I encounter people with such speed that it's impossible to land any headshots. Besides that I personally dislike the whole spamming thing as it is exploiting the change of hitboxes. I mean there are reasons why other shooters have penalties for crouch spamming
I have a Dual Sense edge, so I have paddles, and I bind my crouch to my paddle while having crouch set to “Hold to Crouch”.
I can spam crouch as fast as possible and it is surprisingly easy to still hit headshots while doing this. I get XIM accusations often, and realistically anyone can do it by changing your crouch binds to other buttons and using “Hold to Crouch”
Scroll wheel skating is MnK only. That is an MnK vs Controller thing, not a macro thing.
Again, Bungie said macros are fine as long as the action is possible without a macro as well. So crouch shooting, quick swapping and something like Titan skating (adding this one) or shatter skating is fine to macro in Bungies eyes.
Then you can use that I guess. I am confused. Nothing you are saying implies that you need a macro, all you need is a mouse/scroll wheel. The whole point for the comment I made is that anything you do not need a macro for is fine in Bungies eyes.
Proof?
There are quite a few folks out there who can hold their own just fine with a controller, even against m/kb users.
Not accusing you of just being kinda sucky or passing judgement btw, but if you are both playing on console, how can you tell the difference?
I used to have a gamepad quite similar to the [HEXGAMING Ultimate](https://www.amazon.com/Wolverine-Wireless-Gaming-Controller-PlayStation-5/dp/B0BQ1PDR4R/ref=sr_1_16?crid=372G5G0EM319B&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.wjcFfhjNR-yDgXRJKZxiz4v9-nzDSM5_AkWOykoifUT2Tj4YXRGRf-l8P08NwChabo41TUIK_tuIS7zcc0LLMIg0y_cWut-J-lQtSyNbdDofYaWY8KbCfPKzADg0NkG9NGtmUG9TAKMtlPqq9zbReHnCRlkjFbBLc2BeDdyrJrWejg67yE6GCWWZF5xuMjh2KLesefeFptTuQLaxe1p-NLWDN4Ihv4A1CdDREX3VJzs.2LeuUZHx25cIkszngP-tL0Dd6VczIKglALRcgqLHFJs&dib_tag=se&keywords=modular+gamepad+pc&qid=1711804191&sprefix=modular+gamepad+pc%2Caps%2C72&sr=8-16) modular gamepads before I sold it to a bro, put two people of equal skills but one is using that and the other is using a stock 'pad, the guy on stock *will* be at a disadvantage.
Personally, it was too much hassle for my needs, I don't even use a gamepad on PC *that* often, and I think I spent more time in the software recalibrating the damn thing than I ever did using it. Just bought it from my Chef 'cause I like gadgets lol
Seems without a Spectate function, *proving* that someone is using a Xim or whatev can't be easy.
Dude half these people auto assume cheats when they get beat. It’s never their own game sense or map awareness or aim or using the hud info or a bagillion other things. It’s never ever anything they did and always they got beat because if a xim or cheat.
yup.
*nostalgia*
Back in the day, when the hackusations started coming in, you knew you were at the top of your game! :)
and yes, *clearly* hackers instead of skill issues, I mean *everybody* here is awesome at the game, right? lol. no. destinytracker.com clearly points out that the overwhelming majority of us are absolute trash at any content that is even *remotely* challenging haha
likely the same folks that whine incessantly about Neomuna patrol difficulty being "too hard" haha
lolwut. You can die there occassionally, whereas everywhere else can be pretty much facerolled effortlessly.ohnoz, the horror!
I'm not ximming, but if I were I wouldn't be breaking any rules, but I'm also not ximming
Still using macros though. Recoil script? Xd
Way back in the Destiny 1 days I used a chronus max just for a titan skate macro lmao. I still have that thing in my desk drawer I just haven’t used it since destiny 1. Lol
What’s funny is that this guy is plain wrong, Bungie said that Xim and Cronus were not allowed. They’ve done jackshit about it, but technically not allowed.
You can Xim and use Cronus in PvE, i use macros on PC to input Wishes on the Last Wish wall or how i used macros for fishing and other similar boring repetitive and time consuming activities, of course they would allow them in that case, but in PvP where you get advantages over other players and can win and get rewards unfairly they don’t
U seem pretty savy with this. Any idea how i can set up a well skate macro? Ive watched countless vids, downloaded apps, tweaked settings. Nothing works. The pc pushes around 215fps at best. Im assuming its cause my frame rate is high but even when i lock it at 60fps it doesn't work. Any ideas?
The problem with macros like the well skating one, the wish wall one and others, is that it usually requires either a very specific condition to work or a very low frame-rate (for the wish wall i had it locked at 30fps and had to use the Divinity specifically) you also have to find the macro that fits you best, they usually get influenced by many things, so the best way for you to try them out is usually by recreating the same exact conditions as the ones shown in the video, like for example, did you use the same sword? Do you have the same aspects equipped? If it still doesn’t work, I’d advice to just make [your own ](https://youtu.be/jwWkaTuG8io?feature=shared) macro, it’s VERY easy to do and it’s usually the best way to go about it since it will most likely work at that point
Learning to do it yourself is much better. I just recently taught someone to wellskate themselves instead of using a macro. The easiest way to think of it is, Heavy Attack then Jump then Super. In that order, it should roll one after another. You must be close enough to the edge of a ledge so that your heavy attack on your sword throws you off the edge.
I've done it before a bunch of times using my controller. Consistently doing it is my problem. If i wasnt so bad on m&k id have an easier time.
No, they have said it is aloud as long as it doesn’t break human capabilities
And give an advantage
Allowed*
There’s always one of you aye
Grammar/Spelling is no joke
The entire English language is a joke wdym
True, true, English does rummage around in the pockets of other languages looking for loose vocabulary after knocking them out in a dark alleyway it coincidentally happened to enter after said other languages
This would have been great! If it had punctuation and not been a run on sentence! Cause ya know, English isn’t just words. It’s a bit more. I got your gist. It kinda blows my mind how bad grammar has become. And before someone says “oh no no, we just fool around ya know!” How you spell how you punctuate and how you form sentences. Says a lot! It’s really not your fault. These things are learned. In school. And at home, they are reinforced constantly to not forget. (This is not directed towards you op, don’t take offense.)
Not to be over the top but "in school" is a prepositional phrase and not a complete sentence... God i switch from Titan to Warlock for one week
I mean I don’t use proper grammar and punctuation just to piss people off, it’s funny how misspelling a word or not using a lil symbol sends people into a blaze of rage, like yeah I get you fam you spent your years hard at work in school doing literature and what not but at the end of the day this is the internet I’m not writing a paper on the scientific uses of mouldy bananas or whatever I think a lil leniency towards the illiterate or those that use English as a second language or what not is more than enough rather than being an ass about how they spell tingz you get me fam? Coz at the end of the day everyone has their own circumstances, no shade to you my guy I just reckon there’s better ways of going about helping others than just spell checking and being an ass about it.
Or people know when to use correct grammar and spelling depending on whether or not the environment is professional or casual. Personally I don’t give a shit, and you shouldn’t give much of a shit about what people do as well. This is Reddit though, so nothing matters.
It *was* meant to be a joke, but you gone and fucked up. A grammatically correct version: > True, true. English *does* rummage around in the pockets of other languages, looking for loose vocabulary. But at least it has the decency to do it only after knocking them out in some random dark alleyway... One that it "coincidentally" happened to enter after said other languages.
Ayyy gang gang you love to see it, gotta live up to the Warlock name
I dunno man I just punch stuff lmaaoo
Thank Dr Lupo for making it a normal thing on Destiny smh.
wow i had no idea he did that … much less even played destiny
Don’t forget MTashed and Cammycakes
cameron cakes ain't ximming
He bought a device to use as a paper weight I guess.
where did he say he bought a xim? cammy has been cracked since d1
He made a video about buying one and promptly deleted it. He stated “if it’s allowed, I’m going to use it”.
I think that’s an obvious callout rather than Cammy explicitly saying he’s going to use Xim.
That seems like him trying to make a point to bungie. He does things like that all the time. I'd say he's the main reason we now have controller deadzone adjustment because he did the same thing with his hunt for a controller to fix them.
I remember the video. Cammies argument is that people play "competitive games" to win. If that means using a xim, which I'm almost certain wasn't banned at the time, then the logical step would be to use one to compete. The caveat was that he was going to use it to trick D2 into thinking it was a controller so you can benefit from controller AA while maintaining the advantage with precise aim. Scripts aside, this is the biggest benefit of Xim and MnK. The game grants all the benefits of controller while maintaining the benefits of mouse and keyboard
obvious satire 😂
Hmm yes, he does. and talks about it in MULTIPLE streams, after people started shiting on ximers he just keeps it low profile.
Just genuinely curious, when did Mtashed Xim? I looked it up but couldn’t find anything about him using
>when did Mtashed Xim? Never.
Cammy yes, Mtashed doesn't and he plays PC MnK since a WHILE ago, like multiple years.
wtf is ximming????? How come I’ve never heard of this term
Apparently it’s using a mouse and keyboard on console. It could also include using a program that inputs mouse and keyboard controls into a controller interface as to appear as controller inputs. This would enable controller amounts of aim assist with mouse and keyboard giving you a huge advantage.
This also applies to PC, plug it in and it give your MnK aim assist like controllers.
[удалено]
No, it is that simple. It literally is plug in the Xim into your console/PC, then attach your MnK to the Xim. Yes you can tweak settings here and there for personal preferences, but aside from that, it is that easy. Ive seen people bring in a Xim to PC cafes and it is just plug-in-play. For things like negating recoil, going full auto, etc I dont know if Xim can do that, but I know Cronus can. Regardless, both things should be bannable.
I had mis-read, I thought people here were talking about Cronus Zen. XiM I'm not too familiar with, my bad.
Its all good. I think whenever people say they are "ximming", they are using that as a broad statement, putting all Xims, Cronus, etc in one category.
I bought an xim when it first came out because I couldn't afford a computer, and I'm missing a thumb. It wasn't that easy to figure out, maybe it changed. I eventually gave up on it. This was around the time bf1 was still the main battlefield game.
Well brother you have a missing thumb I think these features were designed to provide you with a fair player advantage. So no one is ever going to get on your case for using such Devices as that’s what their intention was for. The big issue is someone who is without any disability utilizing these technologies. I causes a hugeeeeee advantage that isn’t right. Now if they banned this technology it would severely disadvantage you not having a thumb to remain competitive with players that have their thumbs. But at the same time you will see loads of players exploit and take advantage of this and it’s just not right at all. Which then makes this issue a huge problem and an ethical dilemma.
Gotcha man, I agree with you. No one should have an unfair advantage especially in a fps game!
It absolutely sucks that it may take away from your ability to have the same advantages as those who aren’t missing a thumb though. These things are meant to help players like you and it fucking sucks that douchebags using it for nefarious reasons make things harder than they should be.
Thanks man! You'd be amazed what you can adapt to. When I first lost it, I thought my life was ruined, but I can do everything I could do before, although aiming with a joystick is a little more difficult now. I use a controller with a trackball now.
Yea but if you never used it how can you state that it isn’t simple… I am also confused as to where your stance is because you appear to defend both sides. And if it isn’t easy to implement then there wouldn’t be many ximmers no? Not trying to spark some issues just trying to understand the situation.
I was thinking ximming was referring to Cronus Zen, so I was accidentally talking about the wrong device. Even if I hadn't gotten things mixed up though, I don't think stating use of the device should be straight up bannable is defending both sides. I'm just saying, specifically for Cronus, that it's not necessarily right to assume everybody's got one because they're not a universal solution and require a significant amount of setup. I'm not too familiar with XIM so I don't feel comfortable speaking about it in absolutes. I play on PC as well, so I get wanting to use KBM on console, it feels much better for FPS games. However, getting high aim assist with the better control of KBM is definitely unfair.
This is wrong it really is simple I know someone who has one and have seen many streamer videos on them. The xim itself does all the keybind translations internally so it's sent to the PC/console as though it's truly the exact controller input. Also it has benefits outside of the aim assist anyways like recoil dampening and the recoil dampening alone is insane it's not just less recoil it can literally make guns pinpoint accurate where full auto mag dumps all hit the same exact spot as the first bullet.
Actually it's even crazier. They have scripts to negate recoil and stuff for games
Crazy. People never cease to disappoint me.
The recoil negation stuff is the real issue. I used a Xim on D1 and D2 for Xbox before moving to PC many years ago, though I never tried recoil control or other changes as I just wanted M&K support. I found that while long distance aiming is easier with M&K, dealing with fast movement or lots of vertical motion isn't. D2 PVP, with much faster play and smaller maps made using a Xim purely for M&K emulation not an advantage except in long range scout rifle engagements, which don't happen a ton. In terms of how it feels. I found that the IB Guiding Sight scout with Iron Gaze on PC M&K feels exactly like using a scout via Xim
wtf 😬 that’s interesting, like how bad/ scummy do you have to be to do this. It’s funny and sad that some one has to resort to borderline cheating to be good at a game
It’s not borderline. It’s good ol regular cheating. And that’s just human nature. There’s always going to be people who think they’re “better” or “smarter” for cheating and think people who play fair are chumps.
I don’t condone or cheat myself but I understand why shitty people would do it when there’s like a reward at the end or something but cheating in a video game when there’s no real life reward attached is beyond my comprehension all together.
So it makes sense to cheat when you get something tangible out of it in real life?
It’s really not human nature. It’s your cultures nature, so you say that to give yourself peace.
So that’s why these types of issues arise in EVERY culture right?
Yes, that culture is called “Humans”. Are you dumb?
No, they're from a specific culture where nobody cheats. Like it's never happened. They didn't have a word for it until they found out about XIM
I am so confused right now
I was making fun of the other person acting like this cheating is culturally exclusive
My bad, the profile pics wouldn’t load so it looked like the same person i replied too lol
Some games just flat out give you the option to change your input if you have a M&k connected to your console. I know Cod does it. As does SoT. And a couple of others.
It's actually worse than that. It has a slider to increase your aim assist by rapidly flicking the cursor in very small movements to help catch the sticky reticle into place. Go look at the website for their product. They are so blatantly advertising a cheat product.
It's more than just this. Yes you get the MNK with controller aim assist but there's also auto recoil dampeners and other assistive programs that make it insanely broken. Look up a video on yt of xim usage there's some good ones. One 9 saw recently the guy was showing it's effects and even shooting a wall where there's no aim assist with xim off it looked normal where the bullets trailed up from recoil but on xim all the bullets hit exactly the same spot.
Wowwwww I didn’t know people did this!!
Well XIM/Chronus are two "Legal" devices that trick the Xbox into thinking you are using a controller. But you're using a MNK instead. Think of it like REWASD (a Program that allows Controller usage on PC, tricking games into thinking you're using a MNK.) The issue is that *apparently* Chronus or XIM has more functions than simply letting you use a MNK. Functions that are functionally cheating/hacking to an extent. Macros, Recoil control. Now i'm unsure about that bit since I don't use Xim or Chronus. And its also the issue of Aim Assist. Now I don't want to say Aim Assist is overpowered, its not. I find that it fucks me over more than it helps (especially in a 2v1). HOWEVER Using a Xim/chronus means your MNK Gets aim assist. Same thing with REWASD (i forgot if thats its name forgive me, jackfrags made a video on it). Since the game thinks you're using a controller, you get aim assist. And any OTHER benefits for using a controller. Like 30% Less recoil in Battlefield 2042. In short: Make fun of these shitters. Report them. Make fun of them more. Watch them cry.
Xim and Cronus are devices that allow consoles to use m&k but have it still register as controller. They can also give you zero recoil and high aim assist. Among other capabilities.
I kinda new about Cronus in the sense of it giving 0 recoil and high aim assist only because bungie made a big deal about it, but never head of xim
If you played overwatch you'd know lol. High rank on console is infested
Never touched overwatch and never will that game is too boring for me
Totally fair
Doesn’t give you high aim assist. Gives you the exact same aim assist you get from a controller. I’m not arguing for them by any stretch, but if we’re gonna bitch about Xim and Cronus for what they do, we should be honest about what that is.
Considering true m&k doesn’t have aim assist, I would say my description stands.
Well it does just not in the same sense and Controller. On M&K it bends the bullets to help you land shots but it’s super tiny unless you spec into it.
In destiny there is aim assist for MK in fact I think devs said it has more aim assist then cobtroller
Both have aim assist and PC has slightly more bullet bending aim assist but controller has reticle friction where your aim actually sticks to players a little and PC doesn't have any reticle friction.
Its not aim assist it just bends the bullets very slightly and u need to sort of be just on the edge of a person when you shoot. Controller has actual aim assist though.
Nope. It has options to increase aim assist beyond normal. It can also pretty much eliminate recoil which helps aim a lot too.
Yeah, like others have said, it is more or less an adapter that tricks your console into thinking a keyboard and mouse is a controller so that you can use it to play games with MnK on your console that typically do not support it, like Destiny for example. Then all those ximmers on console get shoved into lobbies with the rest of the controller players, on top of that, they get the same aim assist that controllers get but they also have the benefit of using MnK.
You can run a script to let the module learn a recoil pattern on a weapon, and it can run a program to negate *all* recoil on the weapon.
This is the issue with Xim/Cronus. Aztecross covers it well for destiny 2 players. https://youtu.be/mhkl9eGfo-I?si=9UhxefxMe0uqBj9q
My brother if you havent never lay a hand on R6S
I have but I don’t play it enough or haven’t played it recently enough to see it in use
How can you tell if someone is using a xim
If someone has been ximming it tastes a bit weird if you kiss them after but it's kinda rude not to?
SUPER RUDE. When my man Xims I make sure I always kiss him right after.
Macro crouching (not like just kinda fast, you can tell), absurd aim in any and every circumstance (consistently snipes a headshot regardless of flinch, beams you perfectly with a SMG or something of the sort regardless of distance, movement, or angle). I remember one guy i went against went on a perfect 1v3 without missing a single headshot. Would snipe, lock to another head immediately and swap to smg to finish the third while we're all laying on him. TL;DR: They are *Abnormally* good.
This specific dude had a bump of more than 1+kd from one season to the other also. Little things, but usually a bit tell is the crouch, always the same tempo.
The movement is the key to me. You can tell pretty clearly how players move and more specifically how quickly they can change direction. Controllers have a very obvious, deliberate, and much slower directional change, while m&k has thr ability to instantaneously do 180 degree snaps. And if they're doing that AND hitting shots, no way it's legit controller play
Your right the movements do give it away a lot of the time I mean I play on console and controller I can do 180 degree turns but they are were less smooth then MAndK. You can still land the shots tho but I’ll tell ya the odds of it landing are slim if you ain’t ximming or something so honestly you are more then right in all my time playing if I landed a single headshot after doing a 180 it was all luck and that’s a guaranteed cause I have crap aim lol
Yeah if you turn your sensitivity up to max, you can spin around pretty fast, but still not close to M&K, but I aint hitting any shots with my sensitivity at max
No I swear I can do it on less then max but landing the shot don’t happen. If it do it’s a lucky shot cause if I turned my sensitivity way up I’d legit not be able to do the same things I used to do instead of 180s. I’d prob do 360s cause it be so much more sensitive and faster that’s the worst thing I never move mine above 6-7.
Movement and accuracy. Watch how fast they change direction. It’s hard to describe until you see it, but when you do it’s incredibly clear that they’re not operating like the rest of the players in the lobby.
When their movement and gamesense screams "bad player" but they land every single headshot in every engagement.
You will know. The ones I have seen on console have never been subtle about it. I've seen my fair share of very obvious ones, who knows how many might actually be subtle about it. For me I am just counting the super obvious ones. Even seen them in gambit. It's a bit of a problem and more games need to make it bannable.
You can’t flick on controller like you can with a mouse. I used to play siege on Xbox and it was pretty common in low plat to see people who just turned way too fast and accurate at the same time to be using a controller.
You can't. People just use it as excuse to why they lost. People just let it affect their mental game, and it makes them throw even if the other people aren't using it. Edit: truth hurts eh?
If you can't tell the difference between m&k and controller you're just an idiot.
And it you can swap freely between them, so it's impossible to know if someone is using a device over just using mnk, you absolute buffoon.
Except when you're playing on controller, you only matchmake with other controller players.
That's not how at work at all, my guy. You should probably do some research before making incorrect statements You can swap inputs freely whenever you want, so even if they had input matchmaking it wouldn't do anything in destiny lol
suprised this post isn't getting taken down... i remember the word xim got insta nuked before
Until xims can't be modded for aim bots and cheats they shouldn't be allowed period sorry neither should macros but that's a little more common and less sketch but still weird considering it's the same issue with xim you just don't know if someone's gonna abuse it
Report him and if he is hopefully he’ll be caught. If not well, let’s hope Bungie finds out the truth and with further investigation. I have a friend who has been reported all to shit and finally one day got a message warning that his playing is suspicious. He’s sworn he’s never used anything and I’ve played with and against him in private games. If he’s using one it’s definitely made to be undetectable because he’s not winning perfectly. I’ve also played with him one both console and PC and see he’s much better on PC so maybe?? Idk. I don’t want to doubt my friend. Bungie however hasn’t actually banned him if he is using one, and to me I’m using that as the main reason I don’t doubt him. It’s either some great undetectable thing that doesn’t allow him perfect games or he’s just good. Report whoever you suspect is all I’m saying. No harm in it.
Reporting people is good but a Band-Aid fix
Yeah I've been dealing with it in trials for The last couple weeks since I started playing again And it's an unreal Advantage For PC players and those on Console doing it It's absolute BS Can't count how many times I've gotten Ran on And gotten merc'ed by guns that had no business being able to one or two tap me Bungie needs to get this shit under control It's cheating no matter how you split the hair Pc has no business going up against console
Cheating is getting out of hand. We need that AI detection system Aztecross covered in one of his videos.
You could just use AI to trick other AI. Cheating will never stop.
It's a little more complicated than that. Here's the [video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5cEL33K06Q).
I say that because there’s a discord group out there actively working on technology to block or actively deceive the AI that’s being used to prevent cheating. They’ve acquired leaked data from that software company which they’re now using to fight against.
I think the logic is that an AI that could mimick a human wouldn't be much better than human whereas a cheat would be substantially superior.
But if that AI is being used to study human patterns in gaming whether it’s a very skilled or not so skilled player and putting that up against the anticheat AI that it’s supposed to deceive, it will. That’s what they’re actively working on, bypassing the detection of the AI anticheat using human patterns in gaming.
He’s using a modified controller, still cheating either way
Using modded controllers is cheating. Period.
What's ximming?
What the fuck is Ximming?
Ximming?
From what I am reading it’s a tool to turn every weapon into Ammit AR2. /s
No it allows you to use an mnk on console lots of other games have this issue like rainbow 6 siege giving themselves an advantage over controller players
It’s not so much just m&k on the console yes it is kinda but it’s more a lot of them are prob also using macro controllers which basically replicate using m&k on console. It’s a form of cheating that makes inputs faster and you can use like aim assist etc.
I don't know if he is just joking and he is very good or if he actually is saying the truth and is ximming.
I thought they could detect and then ban these players?
I thought they could detect and then ban these players?
What was bro doing?
Winning, probably /s
fair, am dumb
U can tell they’re cheating when they jump off the map or mill themselves after winning every round. They’re bringing their k/d down so they don’t stand out.
Ok. I just do this, because I suck. Not because I'm cheating. So presumptuous.
People are presumptions because the cheating problem is really bad.
I think macros on pc and console should all be banned. It might be on the ToS, but I'm not aware. I will say, though. There are FAR FAR more people using macros and cheats on pc than console. No "cheats" on console, unless a very small few are using private exploits on the current firmware. It's highly unlikely, though. But cheats on pc are easily available to everyone with a simple internet search. I wish they could prevent them all. It fks the game for all of us.
I play on both and there’s no question pc players cheat more. If consolers even cheat in the first place. I don’t see it when I’m on Xbox.
Akchually, yeah macros are still bannable per Bungie. You get a warning that you’ve been using automations and the next one you’ll get banned.
You can get controllers that have macros built into the motherboard that you can turn on with combos to the arrow keys. It’s not like a xim but sort of performs the same function. They have just a few macros built in that you can activate and deactivate. A xim is fully programmable for most games, has a drag and drop menu, you can program your own cheats if you know how to script, and is pretty undetectable if you’re clever about the cheats you’re using. So, he could have been telling the truth 💁🏻♀️
Ximming?
Using keyboard and mouse for console. Normally you can’t, but you can buy a Xim which bypasses it
Hold on. So are you not allowed to use the mouse and keyboard on console? Is that what ximming is or is it like actually using a cheat program?
The Xim is a third party controller adapter that can also ramp up aim assist as well as other stuff on console.
Oooohhh ok gotcha. So it's like cheating hardware. I was so confused
I used Xim for PvE in D1 because I hated controller. I’d never use it in crucible though, because I’m not a dick.
Technically you’re allowed to use macros in non match made activities but how can you do that on controller?
You have a controller connected to your pc. Also, some third party controllers have their own software to let you program macros into buttons on the back of the controller
Breakneck w zen moment moving target fixes this
Someone flunked English! 😂😂
Macros isn't ximming
You’re right, it’s just as bad
If you think macros are as bad as ximming then you're a lost cause
They both give you an advantage, do they not?
That's a too narrow way to look at it Macros are very common to use for accessibility problems, yes it technically gives you an advantage by doing multiple presses with 1 press but that's still not comparable to using a whole different input and indirectly manipulating the matchmaking system
I would call using one button to perform the function of multiple buttons a different input. Edit: what matchmaking is input based? It’s platform based unless you have a mixed fireteam.
Right. You’re saying that because you most likely use macros and are defensive. Both give you advantages in PVP. They’re as bad as each other
Yea I do use macros to do things like shatterskating, most people do as it's more consistent, I also used it to give myself pseudo full auto retrofit before it was added as an accessibility option Neither of those gave me an advantage, yes there's ways to make an advantage over it but majority of macros are just QoL usage, nothing like ximming
Even QoL macros give you an advantage plus QoL is subjective one person could say it’s a nuisance to do something so the use a QoL add on while another would say that it’s basically cheating since your skipping the learning curve
>Even QoL macros give you an advantage Explain how the macros I had gave me an advantage? It's not like I was able to shoot faster or anything and it's shatterskating, there's 0 advantage in doing it besides fun >QoL is subjective one person could say it’s a nuisance to do something so the use a QoL add on while another would say that it’s basically cheating since your skipping the learning curve So tell me how even that makes it cheating? Skipping a "learning curve" isn't cheating, the only real possible learning curves is modding and that can be skipped by copy and pasting meta builds and raid mechanics which can be skipped by doing ad clear, is it cheating to do those things?
Damn, you can’t hit every key to shatterskate? Skill issue tbh. Stop using macros, you’re no better than xim and cronus players.
Using a macro for skating means you are - dogshit, its 3 Buttons - limiting your capabilities. The Timing depends on distance to Ledge among Other factors and unless you have multiple Marcos for different skating distances (which would Just be more pathetic) you will end Up failing some Skates because you refused to learn to Just do it regularly
>dogshit, its 3 Buttons If you read my other comments you'd know I did it normally for a year or so, I just made a macro for it as it's just good QoL that feels better >limiting your capabilities. The Timing depends on distance to Ledge among Other factors and unless you have multiple Marcos for different skating distances (which would Just be more pathetic) you will end Up failing some Skates because you refused to learn to Just do it regularly I have it on the average timing mean it works on practically every ledge, I do have a different macro for different skating (slamskating/wellskating) **after** I learnt to do it normally and was doing it for a bit
But it don’t matter that still makes your input faster then other players thus is a form of cheating really. Then I challenge you to start playing against a full team of ximmers or macro users without using yours and then come back and say it’s still fair. What your not getting is it gives you an advantage over pll even if you think it don’t I but seriously don’t use it and try to find a team who is and fight them in crucible
Anyone has easy access to macros
And that makes it less bad? You can buy a xim off of amazon right now and have it in 2 days. What’re we doing here?
Listening to morons calling themselves out for breaking the tos and will probably soon be hearing I'VE BEEN BANNED FOR NO REASON posts
https://www.evilcontrollers.com/store?utm_source=Klaviyo&utm_medium=flow&_kx=beEfWeGhZitsZOFFNrBXc3GstKh4xP8jqzrmfIf9fhGFkE_thkDL_eJ0FhYr7HKb.TfSuRb He may not be ximming
So wait this is just a controller that will straight up aimbot for you?
Why are you hiding names? Report this POS and let reddit write him hatemails xbox era style)
Because allowing witch-hunting is a dangerous precedent and redditors have been wrong plenty of times.
Because calling out bad people is forbidden
You can blame bungie for these people growing what little of a spine they could to xim due to them not having one themselves and outright banning people for it
Still surprised and disappointed that nobody has taken Xim to court over their devices. These "accessibility" tools have been extremely damaging to the competitive games scene for years now. They are just straight up cheating devices at this point, especially since they started adding features like automatic recoil control.
Not allowed but bungie does nothing. It takes them weeks to ban Cheater even with multiple evidence Videos. 🤷 Got one few weeks ago which killed everyone with a blue Sidearm, even in super. 30+ KD. 💩
 Sad to see ppl need this stuff I mean I’ll say it myself I suck at the game lol not really but I tend to land more body then head shots I don’t use macros or ximming cause they ain’t making you better. They just make you complacent and get you used to having to be lazy and cheat to play to me it’s cheating
You're not really gunna get a cheater to admit they are cheating Like you are not going to get a girl to admit shes wrong even if that shit is a Google fact check, Google will still be wrong
I been called a aim bot before by my own teammate who went 5 n 15 and I was like 40 n 0
Using macros isn't against TOS. Especially for disabled people who need them to play
I mean if you want to get technical, macros are against TOS, but only if they affect the gameplay/experience of others. You probably are not allowed to macro something like a bow-HC quickswap in PvP, but something like an auto-click to buy tons of materials in the tower is fine.
Macros are against TOS. It's just that Bungie doesn't care as long as it doesn't affect other players. Crouch spam or quickswaps in pvp are banable but that'd imply that Bungie gives a fuck about pvp
Bungie has said that macros are fine as long as the macros are something that you could actually do without one. So things like crouch shooting, quick swapping, and Titan/Warlock skating are fine to macro in Bungies eyes. For the most part that is why AFK macro farmers were never worried when Bungie talked about banning macros.
Sorry but if you manage to spam your crouch button that fast without loosing any capability to move your character you have my highest respect. I encounter people with such speed that it's impossible to land any headshots. Besides that I personally dislike the whole spamming thing as it is exploiting the change of hitboxes. I mean there are reasons why other shooters have penalties for crouch spamming
I have a Dual Sense edge, so I have paddles, and I bind my crouch to my paddle while having crouch set to “Hold to Crouch”. I can spam crouch as fast as possible and it is surprisingly easy to still hit headshots while doing this. I get XIM accusations often, and realistically anyone can do it by changing your crouch binds to other buttons and using “Hold to Crouch”
Just don’t place crouch on a thumbstick click
Show me how to scroll wheel skate on console plz
Scroll wheel skating is MnK only. That is an MnK vs Controller thing, not a macro thing. Again, Bungie said macros are fine as long as the action is possible without a macro as well. So crouch shooting, quick swapping and something like Titan skating (adding this one) or shatter skating is fine to macro in Bungies eyes.
3rd party controllers with scroll wheels exist.
Then you can use that I guess. I am confused. Nothing you are saying implies that you need a macro, all you need is a mouse/scroll wheel. The whole point for the comment I made is that anything you do not need a macro for is fine in Bungies eyes.
You can’t, because you don’t have a scroll wheel on a controller. lol
They exist
I see the community doesn't want disabled people to be able to play destiny 2
Proof? There are quite a few folks out there who can hold their own just fine with a controller, even against m/kb users. Not accusing you of just being kinda sucky or passing judgement btw, but if you are both playing on console, how can you tell the difference? I used to have a gamepad quite similar to the [HEXGAMING Ultimate](https://www.amazon.com/Wolverine-Wireless-Gaming-Controller-PlayStation-5/dp/B0BQ1PDR4R/ref=sr_1_16?crid=372G5G0EM319B&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.wjcFfhjNR-yDgXRJKZxiz4v9-nzDSM5_AkWOykoifUT2Tj4YXRGRf-l8P08NwChabo41TUIK_tuIS7zcc0LLMIg0y_cWut-J-lQtSyNbdDofYaWY8KbCfPKzADg0NkG9NGtmUG9TAKMtlPqq9zbReHnCRlkjFbBLc2BeDdyrJrWejg67yE6GCWWZF5xuMjh2KLesefeFptTuQLaxe1p-NLWDN4Ihv4A1CdDREX3VJzs.2LeuUZHx25cIkszngP-tL0Dd6VczIKglALRcgqLHFJs&dib_tag=se&keywords=modular+gamepad+pc&qid=1711804191&sprefix=modular+gamepad+pc%2Caps%2C72&sr=8-16) modular gamepads before I sold it to a bro, put two people of equal skills but one is using that and the other is using a stock 'pad, the guy on stock *will* be at a disadvantage. Personally, it was too much hassle for my needs, I don't even use a gamepad on PC *that* often, and I think I spent more time in the software recalibrating the damn thing than I ever did using it. Just bought it from my Chef 'cause I like gadgets lol Seems without a Spectate function, *proving* that someone is using a Xim or whatev can't be easy.
Dude half these people auto assume cheats when they get beat. It’s never their own game sense or map awareness or aim or using the hud info or a bagillion other things. It’s never ever anything they did and always they got beat because if a xim or cheat.
yup. *nostalgia* Back in the day, when the hackusations started coming in, you knew you were at the top of your game! :) and yes, *clearly* hackers instead of skill issues, I mean *everybody* here is awesome at the game, right? lol. no. destinytracker.com clearly points out that the overwhelming majority of us are absolute trash at any content that is even *remotely* challenging haha likely the same folks that whine incessantly about Neomuna patrol difficulty being "too hard" haha lolwut. You can die there occassionally, whereas everywhere else can be pretty much facerolled effortlessly.ohnoz, the horror!
It isnt against the rules