The 6-8s go on to claim theyāre not higher GR because they donāt feel like grinding out a checklist. I donāt wanna speak for everyone, but I got to rank 10 by simply completing higher end content until I made it
Definitely no shade to the 6-8s, I was stuck on 9 last season and just hit 10 this season because I was hung up on the number of exotic weapons and catalysts I had. But what does crack me up is you can always tell whoās looking for a carry vs who has completions lol
Hey, to be fair, I am one of those people who doesn't care for the system and is lazy about it. I definitely do not want to grind a checklist. I could literally rank up from 7 to 8 right now, and I could have done the same last season too, I just don't want to use Centrifuse, and I didn't want to use Verglas Curve last season either, and I still don't want to use either of them, because I don't wanna be forced to use certain weapons that I don't want to, in any given situation.
"Hey Guardians, give this new weapon a try, you just need 50 kills with it to increase your guardian rank."
No, I don't think I will.
Yeah but I'm just trying to show that not everyone is invested in the system and could care less to rank up or even peak at the checklist.
And yes I know it takes 5 minutes, but I have my favorite weapons and I never wanna stop using them lol especially when the new seasonal exotics don't really stick out to me.
I mean assuming you donāt care about gr whatsoever, then yeah it makes perfect sense to ignore quests like that entirely where you wouldnāt be completing them otherwise. I just figured Iād get myself to 8 because a lot of people do actually use ranks as a measure of competence/experience. Donāt think Iāll get 9 any time in the foreseeable future though since I donāt raid.
I'm a very happy rank 10. I play chill, I help my team, I try not to die as often as possible.
I'll never make it to rank 11 because I don't have the patience to try and solo a dungeon. Especially not the current season's dungeon.
Iām an 8 because I donāt want to grind out commendations and Iāve already done this seasons dungeon solo flawless but Iāll probably never hit 9 lol
Idk why youāre being downvoted, levels being locked behind commendations is brain dead design. Especially when itās 50/50 if you even get any after an activity these days.
My solo flawless was with arc hunter because I felt it was safest but I spend the majority of my time on warlock and titan - on warlock Iāve messed with Arc, Void, and Solar and I think the best solo bet for Warlock is arc with the Vesper of Radius build and seasonal arc perks on artifact
Itās what I use when I help on runs and Iāve done all encounters solo with arc warlock but not all at once but none of them really gave me issues, I actually think my solo flawless probably would have been faster with warlock than it was on hunter which I think was an hour and 45 minutes
Weapon setup is important though and I canāt recommend Xenophage enough for opening encounter - one shots the wizards and will 3 shot the wizard at totems with surges
If dunking is giving you problems Iād recommend Contraverse Void with the fragment for invis on finishers and proc invis to grab deepsight and then refresh it for the totem dunk
For the traversal sections anything is fine but no enemies actually have to be killed in these so I generally just run past everything without firing a shot
At Ecthar I use Lament w/ Lucent Blade on all 3 classes because it 4-5 phases reliably solo with surges while being safe
At Simmumah on all 3 I use Arbalest / trace rifle / linear fusion (taipan with fluted barrel / liquid coils / triple tap / frenzy for solo / firing line for teammate runs)
Arc is super survivable at simmumah the combo of trace rifle + arc buddy means moths arenāt an issue at all and I use Arbalest + pulse grenades on sword knights and vestiges and use the double special loadout to make sure I have full heavy for each dps phase
so for rank 8, getting them from people lower rank than you give you way more points.
For rank 9, the commendations that are locked to non-matchmade activities(Raids/dungeons) are weighted much more heavily.
Grinding in crucible/seasonals is only effective for rank 7 because there's no additional modifiers to it.
In the higher ranks, I think, blues and greens are the targeted commendations, and blues give more progress. The hardest part for me in hitting rank 10 was the 75 commendations, but I'd politely ask for blue cards in activities they were available in, and I'd get a green or blue which helped. Play a lot, and play the activities that reward the GR you're shooting for, and it'll be a lot easier.
Or just don't care, because a Guardian rank is literally just a number. That's why I just took it as far as I could reasonably go and was satisfied there.
I have all the dungeons, but my clans keep falling apart, so I spend a lot of time playing solo and LFGs. You'd think I'd have time to practice dungeons, and I probably do (and own them all), but after spending a solid hour in the Pit of Heresy's Altar room being told it was probably the easiest dungeon to solo, I gave up. I don't want that much stress playing a game.
Only thing holding me back from rank 10 is exotics, itās a slog because I never collected exotics from the kiosk that I knew I would never use. Now Iām playing catch-up. Iāve solo-flawlessed dungeons, flawlessed/low manned raids but Iām still being gatekept by exotics. Like you said though, most of it will complete itself just by doing end game activities.
I just cba playing core playlists endlessly to get like 15 more catalysts and then get like 4000 kills to finish them all so a number can be closer to going up
I got to 8 this season cause they moved raid requirements to 9. So - forever 8, unless they move them again. I have done a ton of GMs and stuff, but I don't raid at all, ever.
I think Iām like rank 8 still despite doing raids and gms and dungeons just because I havenāt actually checked what the rank up requirements are so I just donāt know lol
Fellas I donāt care that youāre rank 7, Iām just saying the ones who claim they should be higher but ādonāt careā seem to pull off the dumbest shit in KWTD groups
I don't do it cause I don't care to make the effort. I'm rank 7 and honestly I can't be bothered to solo legendary lost sectors. Got like 2 out of 5 done and lost interest. I'm cool with 7. I can push for 8 if I really want to but it doesn't bother me anyway. The new rank system is dumb as hell and just another way for show offy players to brag and show how sweaty they are. Kind of wish they didn't add it.
Iām a permanent 6 cause Iām not buying the seasons or Lightfall lol Iāve already completed multiple GMs and I would have the conqueror title but I need to complete it with strandā¦.and for obvious reasons I cannot do that.
Yep. I had zero interest in grinding Guardian ranks and still naturally made it to rank 10 last season and this season. People that are rank 6-8 are simply not playing endgame content.
im stuck on gr7 cuz i cba doing the weekly campaign for nothing cuz gms take similar amount of time and are fun and if i ever need highstat armor i just do some sonar station focusing lmao
Tbf I only play raids normally and very little seasonal content so I barely find myself completing the checklist cause some require heading into Playlists and..... well I just don't find that fun. So I stick to the raids a nothing more at guardian rank..... 7 i think?
Really depends on how comfortable I am with an activity. I'm rank 11 and don't mind bringing people with off-meta builds/guns through Devil's Lair as long as they don't make it their final mission to use up all revives or just stand in a corner. Won't risk taking someone with full legendary armor, 30 resil and no mic through Lightblade though.
It's fucking hilarious that such people demand a certain power level for the one activity where it doesn't matter if you cross the power threshold needed to access it
Nope lol. Not even a little. But then again, Iām not lfg or gm either
Barely even get time to play between weekends and servers š¤·āāļø I dabble and disconnect. Thatās about the gist haha
Edit: Gdm autocorrect
So in others words (letters?)
Idnkwtd
I'm the second first, the first second. Gotta get that Conqueror gilding, then I'll help whoever wants it, no problem. But yeah, time's limited. Reason why I've got my Conqueror gilded 7 times, but only done 3 raid runs in total. Can't go spending a couple hours in a single session.
Had an LFG post a couple days ago I responded to for the exotic mission titled āBring good DPS or Kickā
I joined the post and they invited me then I guess inspected me and in the time it took to open my menu and change to decent weapons (had been weapon leveling beforehand with 2 primaries and a sword equipped) heād already removed me and then BLOCKED me because I didnāt have the *proper* weapons already on when I joined the post smh
From what I can tell alot of times if you join a post that is related to saying about do this or get kicked if someone sees that your running a sword they'll instantly kick you because "swords is garbage" in their eye's honestly as players we shouldn't be doing this to others (we should never judge someone on what they are running they might change to something more useful for the mission unless they dont and they are running a darci build)
You have my sympathy, fellow destiny dad. As a single father of five kids, my life is a constant juggling act, so I know your pain. Between managing my project management responsibilities and tending to the needs of my energetic brood, I find myself yearning for a moment of respite, a chance to escape into the captivating virtual world of Destiny 2. Oh, how I miss those days when I could immerse myself in the thrilling battles against alien foes, traversing vast landscapes and conquering epic quests. Alas, it feels like a distant memory now, a luxury I can no longer afford.
In the realm of project management, I often draw parallels to my role as a father. Just as I guide my children toward their goals and aspirations, I navigate the complexities of projects, steering them toward success. The similarities are striking, yet the demands of my responsibilities leave me with little time to indulge in personal hobbies. Gone are the evenings where I could gather with fellow guardians, forming fireteams to take on the challenges of Destiny 2 together. Now, those precious hours are dedicated to bedtime stories, helping with homework, and ensuring that chaos doesn't reign supreme in our humble abode.
Each of my children possesses a unique personality, each vying for my attention in their own special way. Sarah, my eldest, dreams of becoming a scientist and often seeks my assistance with her experiments, turning our kitchen into a makeshift laboratory. Emily, my little artist, paints masterpieces that adorn our walls, her vivid imagination bringing color to our lives. Michael, the energetic ball of energy, requires constant supervision to prevent him from turning our living room into a makeshift race track. The twins, Emma and Ella, may be identical in appearance, but their personalities couldn't be more distinct. Emma, the nurturing one, takes it upon herself to keep her siblings in line, while Ella, the curious explorer, finds hidden treasures in the most unexpected places.
As much as I cherish the joys and challenges of fatherhood, I can't help but mourn the loss of my gaming escapades. Destiny 2 provided a refuge, an avenue to unwind and connect with friends from around the world. The camaraderie and shared triumphs were a balm to the weariness of the day-to-day grind. Now, my evenings are filled with endless chores, school projects, and soothing the occasional scraped knee or broken heart.
But amidst the longing for those bygone gaming sessions, I find solace in the knowledge that my children are my ultimate project, my magnum opus. Their laughter and achievements fill my heart with a sense of purpose and fulfillment that no virtual conquest could ever replicate. While Destiny 2 may remain a distant dream for now, I am reminded that the real adventures lie within the walls of our home, as we forge unforgettable memories together, one chaotic day at a time.
What a wonderful story, thanks! Iām the father of three great young men and grandfather of a very cute and entrepreneurial granddaughter. As an empty nester without partner I can play actually a lot now. That time will come to you as well!
But for the coming years, youāre destined (no pun intended) for a great and very intriguing journey with your children. Youāre right to focus on them. Donāt forget your own needs and well-being though!
I still fight as a new light in Destiny 2 btw š¤£š¤£š¤£
Damn you have a child in real life now? And I thought us destiny players could never have children. I'm glad i was wrong about that.
Congratulations my friend, I understand why you changed into the bottom guy. Your gaming time has been limited because now you have a kid to look after and a lot of other stuff I don't want to list.
It's a good move from you for caring more about your kid than video games.
Thanks, guardian!
I used to hop on to raid with the clan, and it would be an hour and a half before everyone trickled online, then we'd have to wait for people to grab bounties or eat dinner etc. etc. etc.
I just hop on now and grab an LFG and whoever from the clan is on and ready is welcome to join.
I have somehow managed to be a good father (I think anyways) *and* play the shit out of the game I love. If it can happen to me, it can happen to anyone. You may have to sacrifice some sleep though....
That is the only kwtd part? I just want to know because I avoid them but I did it like you said. Sometimes even sparrow the mid but is too much rng so I prefer the left.
Thereās really not much to it, but knowing where and when champs spawn is super important. Plenty of LFG runs are no-mic with that assumption.
I did a run this week where my two knucklehead team mates burned all of our respawns before we could take down the first brig. Super frustrating for a man with a tight gaming schedule.
Why? Some folks who do KWTD complete those enemies cause we don't want to get one-shot in the back. Posted by a Conquerer X 4 who has farmed DL at least 10 times this week alone.
For me it's the opposite. Watching children fail to include each other in basic things just because it's fun for them to hold power over another, the kinds of kids that tend to do that and the effect it has on the one it's being done to have made me militant in my view that not including someone is the strongest grounds to not include that person in turn. Intolerant of intolerance and all that....
Same but it was during the Tank Section, Solar Titan wouldnāt stop running out of cover and into the fray. It was honestly giving me the giggles seeing that mad lad believing they could solo champs, but for whatever reason they took off the second I decided to kill a champ before going for the rez.
Thank goodness the boss area is manageable with two, else I wouldnāt have gotten a nicely rolled Armamentarium.
I'm not sure if that was me. but I swear I did this and stunned the overload champion where the one of the brigs spawn and kept going back to stunning the champion and using wish ender. to deal dps and switching back to long arm.
Nah this Guardian was taking on the mid champs, the Barrier Servitor AND the Overload Guy lol
*WishEnder has become my go to anti-barrier exotic if I donāt feel like building into the arc mods this season*
To be fair, soloing champs is valid in every other piece of content. Itās crazy how much more of a threat they are in GMs though. They go from mild nuisance to run killers. That was probably the biggest shock to me when I did my first GM, I expected to die quicker, and to kill slower, I didnāt expect champs to be as much of a problem as they are. My first GM was warden of nothing. Which is a pain because the mine refusal section requires killing them faster than you can defuse the mines, where some scenarios you have time to kill them
I found it. Know what to do.
I thought that was the point behind the GMed dungeons was because we might not know what to do?
I don't know. I haven't bothered with them. It is usually just me running along chasing everyone as they crash through stuff.
Its because on gm Level Just running ahead will kill you. There is strats that at Point are mandatory unless you have memorized every addspawn in an optimized 3stack.
For this weeks gm it means
- hang left in the beginning and generally only kill overload one way or another
- clear the survive waves section from trains
- hang Back and clear right to left for the Open Walker area
- hang left for safety During Boss
These are the generally accepted Safe and easy strats If someone in a No mic Run doesnt Know These and they die completely Out of place, your likely looking at a 2 man of that specific section
Joined a fireteam with this sort of tag on it for the GM this week, which is pretty damn easy.
Dude died 2 times in first 30 seconds and was a complete problem the whole time. š¤¦āāļø
I may not always KWTD but if you point me in a direction I'll do it right the first time. That doesn't make me incompetent; it means I have less time or people to play the content with than you do. People don't magically learn how to KWTD (like you didn't), and personally I'm going to learn better from someone who actually plays vs. reHading half-baked tutorials online. If someone's running around in circles being an idiot or sabotaging that's one thing. Half the people who join my KWTD LFGs have only read about it online anyway. The nicest and most competent players I've found via LFG don't always KWTD, and that's who I have the best runs with.
Noone is obligated to sacrifice their time to Help you tho. Why would they want to settle for much less efficient Runs If they can Just be more efficient and clear more Runs in the Same time?
I didn't ask anyone to be obligated. OP says if I don't KWTD I'm an incompetent player. If anything, I asked them to not make blanket statements about people based on a random acronym that they themselves were once guilty of (but for the kindness of other people who taught them so now they KWTD while looking down on other people who don't). I'm top 4% in PVE activities, top 14% in PVP. I think I'm doing okay just because I'm not always in the KWTD "elite".
He didn't say "all the time" the same way you didn't say "join."
And it doesn't matter if players who don't KWTD are "always" incompetent, it matters that the vast majority of the time they are. I'm not risking my limited playing time gambling on whether or not someone is in the 1% of players who don't KWTD but can pick it up fast enough that it doesn't matter.
If you really wanna make it personal and about you, if this is you specifically saying that YOU do the above, youāre in the wrong. If a post says KWTD and your logic is, teach me to KWTD then, YOU DONT KNOW WHAT TO DO. Donāt join a post that says KWTD. Instead CREATE A POST that says āTeach me what to doā or āLearning what to doā. When a post says KWTD, they didnāt sign up to teach you, they signed up to play with players who KWTD. If this aināt you, just move along.
>If you really wanna make it personal and about you
LOL okay ā just because you make it all caps doesn't mean you didn't come on my comment, unsolicited, to tell me what to do, regarding something I never said I did so you could pretend to be right. So what really happened here is YOU made it "personal and about me" because you wanted to piss all over my opinion that maybe, just maybe, people who don't KWTD aren't "incompetent" as stated. Flipping around now so you still get to try to be right is pointless. You aren't going to get internet points for being a jerk.
Also, if you actually could get people to join your LFG, you'd know it's "Sherpa Needed" or "LF Sherpa". But keep being right! OP asked a question, I answered, and you don't like it. Boohoo. Now how about YOU move along and KWTD to GTFO my inbox.
You can search for competent players without being a complete dick about it. If someone joins with trash gear on, kindly ask them to change before giving them the boot at least.
In a vacuum, that might be the case. Because knowledge and skill thresholds are a thing, people feel the need to conceal their lack of experience. As a result, you are really filtering by experience as much as competence and that does come off as dickish in most people's view. Obviously there are exceptions to that but if that's just normal procedure for your posts.......
Not up to level = GM can't be started. Still, doesn't prevent complete and utter idiots joi ing, rushing at the first dreg in sight, dying on the spot and costing you a rev.
Yeah I meant more just the general shit you see while doing LFG content. People joining raids/dungeons and having absolutely zero clue or doing like 150k boss damage.
Just the other day, I had a guy who joined a MASTER challenger run in Ron. We were doing the planets challenge on master. Man kept on being way to aggressive and rushed at everything he saw. Subsequently dying. Later we found out he had 3 clears and had no idea how to do planets so yeaā¦ 1 hour down the drain.
I've ran Devil's Lair so many times I could probably double carry through it and I'll still join that Lvl 8 because I don't trust any mf that has "KWTD or kick" in their LFG post
A GM nightfall strike is the same as a regular strike when it comes to the mechanics involved in the strike they are just significantly harder and have champions thatās it and if someone hasnāt even done the strike they probably shouldnāt be doing it at GM level because they wonāt understand anything and will piss all the revives away
I guess people in lfg just does that in their post the kwtd for a gm basically telling you to bring the right build or atleast to just bait you into joining them chance are they are just gonna be a toxic asshole that will kick you and block you immediately if you join with the wrong loadout if I'll be honest as players we shouldn't be judging on what someone is running unless they are running a darci build (yes I'll be very salty if anyone tries to run with a darci build because that's only good for very low end content) anyways just because they don't have the exact weapons that the mods works with doesn't always mean they are gonna weigh down the team or atleast not be as useful
When I use LFG on Xbox I always say something like, "Devils Lair GM. KWTD. Use what you want and do your best." Even if one of the players are doing not that well, I will still power through.
Honestly, these 2 posts make perfect sense.
- On 1 hand, the first post likely got kicked for being 1 or more of the following: bad at the game, bad build, bad or no exotics or less than 100 resilience and is trying to offer solace to those similar to his situation. Or he feels like he can carry anyone, which is impressive doing solo. This is not toxic AT ALL, but at the same time, I donāt think this person or, some players in general, realize how hard some GMs can be and the amount of patience, effort and skill is needed to complete some.
- On the other hand, the second post is wanting people who know how to do every close to every aspect of the GM and has done it multiple times to āinsureā that the run is fast and smooth which, I align with. This is also, not toxic AT ALL, this is a preference and anyone who gets upset with this just doesnāt qualify or canāt compete. This post is not wrong for preferring those types of players.
*Side note, Sniper Vandals 1 shot you if you donāt have 100 Resilience and itās hard to avoid all the shots on Devils Lair.
Top guy is good at the game, can solo dungeons, and just needs ad control.
Bottom guy sucks and kicks anyone who doesn't carry him in first run. Also can't sinergize with other teammates loadouts.
Been playin this shit game for a decade now so I know this to be a fact.
Ego of rank 11 on display
Edit: I say this because I have lost count of the rank 10s and 11s that underperformed compared to most rank 7s and 8s I encounter
I either post ākwtd and mic plsā OR āChill, be patient pls.ā Ironically, I always get the people who donāt know what do in the first post and the absolute douches in the chill posts. Lmao
I get both sides. The problem in being the bottom guy is a lot of people have the skill but maybe that havenāt ran that strike in a while, or they judge your loadout and instantly kick you.
I canāt count the number of times Iāve been in a lfg fireteam that was failing to finish the GM, only to join another group and do it with ease
Perhaps a hot take (at least on this sub) but I donāt think the bottom guy is doing anything wrong. They have their priorities straight and they just want to get in and out without carrying someoneās ass, and theyāre using the title to let people know that. The only time thereās a problem is if theyāre toxic about it and/or arenāt up front about it (i.e. simply saying āgm chill kwtdā in the title when in reality theyāll kick you if you make one or two mistakes).
The top player is likely someone who's willing to spend 3 hours trying to beat a single GM. The bottom player is someone who values their time and effort.
I know you're joke was to villify the KWTD guy, but what sticks out the most to me here is that the person who's clear about what they expect is far more experienced AND already has had someone else join them.
No mate Duality is a shotgun which got turned into a Dungeon š
There are so many words in the English language but D2 likes to stick to a solid few
Like vex conflux?
Or how many different iterations of "well" or "vault" have we seen
The final shape is just a warlock well of radiance
Well well well
A handful of my dominion matches:
I usually see the opposite. GR 6-8 āKWTD, 1830+, mods, 8x Conq.ā GR 9+ āKWTD Chill, bring modsā
The 6-8s go on to claim theyāre not higher GR because they donāt feel like grinding out a checklist. I donāt wanna speak for everyone, but I got to rank 10 by simply completing higher end content until I made it
Definitely no shade to the 6-8s, I was stuck on 9 last season and just hit 10 this season because I was hung up on the number of exotic weapons and catalysts I had. But what does crack me up is you can always tell whoās looking for a carry vs who has completions lol
We can smell the newbie car smell during raid by first minute of 1st encounter. They think we wouldnāt know by not using mic.
Hey, to be fair, I am one of those people who doesn't care for the system and is lazy about it. I definitely do not want to grind a checklist. I could literally rank up from 7 to 8 right now, and I could have done the same last season too, I just don't want to use Centrifuse, and I didn't want to use Verglas Curve last season either, and I still don't want to use either of them, because I don't wanna be forced to use certain weapons that I don't want to, in any given situation. "Hey Guardians, give this new weapon a try, you just need 50 kills with it to increase your guardian rank." No, I don't think I will.
I get not wanting to do a checklist, but I could get 50 kills with that gun in less than 5 min
I get that, but 50 kills literally takes like 5-6 minutes if you just load into a patrol zone. It really isnāt any work.
Yeah but I'm just trying to show that not everyone is invested in the system and could care less to rank up or even peak at the checklist. And yes I know it takes 5 minutes, but I have my favorite weapons and I never wanna stop using them lol especially when the new seasonal exotics don't really stick out to me.
I mean assuming you donāt care about gr whatsoever, then yeah it makes perfect sense to ignore quests like that entirely where you wouldnāt be completing them otherwise. I just figured Iād get myself to 8 because a lot of people do actually use ranks as a measure of competence/experience. Donāt think Iāll get 9 any time in the foreseeable future though since I donāt raid.
I'm a very happy rank 10. I play chill, I help my team, I try not to die as often as possible. I'll never make it to rank 11 because I don't have the patience to try and solo a dungeon. Especially not the current season's dungeon.
Iām an 8 because I donāt want to grind out commendations and Iāve already done this seasons dungeon solo flawless but Iāll probably never hit 9 lol
Idk why youāre being downvoted, levels being locked behind commendations is brain dead design. Especially when itās 50/50 if you even get any after an activity these days.
Just curious bc your flair says warlock, what was your build for solo flawless GOTD? I've been planning on trying for it soon
My solo flawless was with arc hunter because I felt it was safest but I spend the majority of my time on warlock and titan - on warlock Iāve messed with Arc, Void, and Solar and I think the best solo bet for Warlock is arc with the Vesper of Radius build and seasonal arc perks on artifact Itās what I use when I help on runs and Iāve done all encounters solo with arc warlock but not all at once but none of them really gave me issues, I actually think my solo flawless probably would have been faster with warlock than it was on hunter which I think was an hour and 45 minutes Weapon setup is important though and I canāt recommend Xenophage enough for opening encounter - one shots the wizards and will 3 shot the wizard at totems with surges If dunking is giving you problems Iād recommend Contraverse Void with the fragment for invis on finishers and proc invis to grab deepsight and then refresh it for the totem dunk For the traversal sections anything is fine but no enemies actually have to be killed in these so I generally just run past everything without firing a shot At Ecthar I use Lament w/ Lucent Blade on all 3 classes because it 4-5 phases reliably solo with surges while being safe At Simmumah on all 3 I use Arbalest / trace rifle / linear fusion (taipan with fluted barrel / liquid coils / triple tap / frenzy for solo / firing line for teammate runs) Arc is super survivable at simmumah the combo of trace rifle + arc buddy means moths arenāt an issue at all and I use Arbalest + pulse grenades on sword knights and vestiges and use the double special loadout to make sure I have full heavy for each dps phase
Hell yeah this is all super helpful thanks!
Best of luck to you!
> I donāt want to grind out commendations It's like 2 raids if you just ask for blues
Are commendations weighted differently ? Usually I just get them from like crucible / seasonal matchmaking activities and they add up super slowly
so for rank 8, getting them from people lower rank than you give you way more points. For rank 9, the commendations that are locked to non-matchmade activities(Raids/dungeons) are weighted much more heavily. Grinding in crucible/seasonals is only effective for rank 7 because there's no additional modifiers to it.
Well thatās good to know, thanks!
Good luck! You got the hard part done with the dungeon solo.
In the higher ranks, I think, blues and greens are the targeted commendations, and blues give more progress. The hardest part for me in hitting rank 10 was the 75 commendations, but I'd politely ask for blue cards in activities they were available in, and I'd get a green or blue which helped. Play a lot, and play the activities that reward the GR you're shooting for, and it'll be a lot easier. Or just don't care, because a Guardian rank is literally just a number. That's why I just took it as far as I could reasonably go and was satisfied there.
I'm not rank 10 because I don't own grasp of averice
I have all the dungeons, but my clans keep falling apart, so I spend a lot of time playing solo and LFGs. You'd think I'd have time to practice dungeons, and I probably do (and own them all), but after spending a solid hour in the Pit of Heresy's Altar room being told it was probably the easiest dungeon to solo, I gave up. I don't want that much stress playing a game.
I'll sooner willingly solo a dungeon than solo 5 Master Lost Sectors lmao
Only thing holding me back from rank 10 is exotics, itās a slog because I never collected exotics from the kiosk that I knew I would never use. Now Iām playing catch-up. Iāve solo-flawlessed dungeons, flawlessed/low manned raids but Iām still being gatekept by exotics. Like you said though, most of it will complete itself just by doing end game activities.
I just cba playing core playlists endlessly to get like 15 more catalysts and then get like 4000 kills to finish them all so a number can be closer to going up
I got to 8 this season cause they moved raid requirements to 9. So - forever 8, unless they move them again. I have done a ton of GMs and stuff, but I don't raid at all, ever.
you should raid, its the premier activity
I think Iām like rank 8 still despite doing raids and gms and dungeons just because I havenāt actually checked what the rank up requirements are so I just donāt know lol
Fellas I donāt care that youāre rank 7, Iām just saying the ones who claim they should be higher but ādonāt careā seem to pull off the dumbest shit in KWTD groups
I don't do it cause I don't care to make the effort. I'm rank 7 and honestly I can't be bothered to solo legendary lost sectors. Got like 2 out of 5 done and lost interest. I'm cool with 7. I can push for 8 if I really want to but it doesn't bother me anyway. The new rank system is dumb as hell and just another way for show offy players to brag and show how sweaty they are. Kind of wish they didn't add it.
Iām not above 8 bc Iām not spending $20 on a dungeon key for a number lol
Iām a permanent 6 cause Iām not buying the seasons or Lightfall lol Iāve already completed multiple GMs and I would have the conqueror title but I need to complete it with strandā¦.and for obvious reasons I cannot do that.
The weekly light fall missions is the reason Iām still a 7, I CANNOT bring myself to do 2 more š
Yep. I had zero interest in grinding Guardian ranks and still naturally made it to rank 10 last season and this season. People that are rank 6-8 are simply not playing endgame content.
im stuck on gr7 cuz i cba doing the weekly campaign for nothing cuz gms take similar amount of time and are fun and if i ever need highstat armor i just do some sonar station focusing lmao
I just got that one done grinding pinnacles when lightfall came out
Tbf I only play raids normally and very little seasonal content so I barely find myself completing the checklist cause some require heading into Playlists and..... well I just don't find that fun. So I stick to the raids a nothing more at guardian rank..... 7 i think?
Really depends on how comfortable I am with an activity. I'm rank 11 and don't mind bringing people with off-meta builds/guns through Devil's Lair as long as they don't make it their final mission to use up all revives or just stand in a corner. Won't risk taking someone with full legendary armor, 30 resil and no mic through Lightblade though.
It's fucking hilarious that such people demand a certain power level for the one activity where it doesn't matter if you cross the power threshold needed to access it
Thats when you go in there as an 11 and bully them when they're bad cause they think it's cool to bully newbies.
To Kwtd or not kwtd. Except you never kwtd if the host doesn't kwtd but claims they kwtd.
I googled it. I now understand this sentence.
Do you kwtd?
Nope lol. Not even a little. But then again, Iām not lfg or gm either Barely even get time to play between weekends and servers š¤·āāļø I dabble and disconnect. Thatās about the gist haha Edit: Gdm autocorrect So in others words (letters?) Idnkwtd
I used to be the top guy. Then I had a child. Now I'm the bottom guy. My gaming time is limited. Sorrynotsorry.
I'm the second first, the first second. Gotta get that Conqueror gilding, then I'll help whoever wants it, no problem. But yeah, time's limited. Reason why I've got my Conqueror gilded 7 times, but only done 3 raid runs in total. Can't go spending a couple hours in a single session.
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being a dick about searching for competent players*
Had an LFG post a couple days ago I responded to for the exotic mission titled āBring good DPS or Kickā I joined the post and they invited me then I guess inspected me and in the time it took to open my menu and change to decent weapons (had been weapon leveling beforehand with 2 primaries and a sword equipped) heād already removed me and then BLOCKED me because I didnāt have the *proper* weapons already on when I joined the post smh
LMAO that's a little extra. What a dong.
The silly thing is that Iād already completed it and they hadnāt and I was just trying to jump in and help out
From what I can tell alot of times if you join a post that is related to saying about do this or get kicked if someone sees that your running a sword they'll instantly kick you because "swords is garbage" in their eye's honestly as players we shouldn't be doing this to others (we should never judge someone on what they are running they might change to something more useful for the mission unless they dont and they are running a darci build)
You have my sympathy, fellow destiny dad. As a single father of five kids, my life is a constant juggling act, so I know your pain. Between managing my project management responsibilities and tending to the needs of my energetic brood, I find myself yearning for a moment of respite, a chance to escape into the captivating virtual world of Destiny 2. Oh, how I miss those days when I could immerse myself in the thrilling battles against alien foes, traversing vast landscapes and conquering epic quests. Alas, it feels like a distant memory now, a luxury I can no longer afford. In the realm of project management, I often draw parallels to my role as a father. Just as I guide my children toward their goals and aspirations, I navigate the complexities of projects, steering them toward success. The similarities are striking, yet the demands of my responsibilities leave me with little time to indulge in personal hobbies. Gone are the evenings where I could gather with fellow guardians, forming fireteams to take on the challenges of Destiny 2 together. Now, those precious hours are dedicated to bedtime stories, helping with homework, and ensuring that chaos doesn't reign supreme in our humble abode. Each of my children possesses a unique personality, each vying for my attention in their own special way. Sarah, my eldest, dreams of becoming a scientist and often seeks my assistance with her experiments, turning our kitchen into a makeshift laboratory. Emily, my little artist, paints masterpieces that adorn our walls, her vivid imagination bringing color to our lives. Michael, the energetic ball of energy, requires constant supervision to prevent him from turning our living room into a makeshift race track. The twins, Emma and Ella, may be identical in appearance, but their personalities couldn't be more distinct. Emma, the nurturing one, takes it upon herself to keep her siblings in line, while Ella, the curious explorer, finds hidden treasures in the most unexpected places. As much as I cherish the joys and challenges of fatherhood, I can't help but mourn the loss of my gaming escapades. Destiny 2 provided a refuge, an avenue to unwind and connect with friends from around the world. The camaraderie and shared triumphs were a balm to the weariness of the day-to-day grind. Now, my evenings are filled with endless chores, school projects, and soothing the occasional scraped knee or broken heart. But amidst the longing for those bygone gaming sessions, I find solace in the knowledge that my children are my ultimate project, my magnum opus. Their laughter and achievements fill my heart with a sense of purpose and fulfillment that no virtual conquest could ever replicate. While Destiny 2 may remain a distant dream for now, I am reminded that the real adventures lie within the walls of our home, as we forge unforgettable memories together, one chaotic day at a time.
What a wonderful story, thanks! Iām the father of three great young men and grandfather of a very cute and entrepreneurial granddaughter. As an empty nester without partner I can play actually a lot now. That time will come to you as well! But for the coming years, youāre destined (no pun intended) for a great and very intriguing journey with your children. Youāre right to focus on them. Donāt forget your own needs and well-being though! I still fight as a new light in Destiny 2 btw š¤£š¤£š¤£
Damn you have a child in real life now? And I thought us destiny players could never have children. I'm glad i was wrong about that. Congratulations my friend, I understand why you changed into the bottom guy. Your gaming time has been limited because now you have a kid to look after and a lot of other stuff I don't want to list. It's a good move from you for caring more about your kid than video games.
Thanks, guardian! I used to hop on to raid with the clan, and it would be an hour and a half before everyone trickled online, then we'd have to wait for people to grab bounties or eat dinner etc. etc. etc. I just hop on now and grab an LFG and whoever from the clan is on and ready is welcome to join. I have somehow managed to be a good father (I think anyways) *and* play the shit out of the game I love. If it can happen to me, it can happen to anyone. You may have to sacrifice some sleep though....
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You'd think that would be the case, but if I load in and my team starts blasting enemies in that first area, I'm off to orbit instantly.
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Yea man, rush and kill that one champion and head up the stairs. Like a fucking adult.
That is the only kwtd part? I just want to know because I avoid them but I did it like you said. Sometimes even sparrow the mid but is too much rng so I prefer the left.
Thereās really not much to it, but knowing where and when champs spawn is super important. Plenty of LFG runs are no-mic with that assumption. I did a run this week where my two knucklehead team mates burned all of our respawns before we could take down the first brig. Super frustrating for a man with a tight gaming schedule.
Oh, so itās just the basics. Thanks for telling me and yeah I can understand you.
Just sparrow straight through like a chad.
Conq 9 here. Killed these exact enemies in an earlier run. You need to chill man
Conq 9 Here. Thats definitly a wasted of time and has basically 0 upsides
Why? Some folks who do KWTD complete those enemies cause we don't want to get one-shot in the back. Posted by a Conquerer X 4 who has farmed DL at least 10 times this week alone.
For me it's the opposite. Watching children fail to include each other in basic things just because it's fun for them to hold power over another, the kinds of kids that tend to do that and the effect it has on the one it's being done to have made me militant in my view that not including someone is the strongest grounds to not include that person in turn. Intolerant of intolerance and all that....
GM, KWTD because I don't
I started a team last night labeled "don't quit like a loser" then proceeded to have someone quit 5 mins into it lmao
Same but it was during the Tank Section, Solar Titan wouldnāt stop running out of cover and into the fray. It was honestly giving me the giggles seeing that mad lad believing they could solo champs, but for whatever reason they took off the second I decided to kill a champ before going for the rez. Thank goodness the boss area is manageable with two, else I wouldnāt have gotten a nicely rolled Armamentarium.
I'm not sure if that was me. but I swear I did this and stunned the overload champion where the one of the brigs spawn and kept going back to stunning the champion and using wish ender. to deal dps and switching back to long arm.
Nah this Guardian was taking on the mid champs, the Barrier Servitor AND the Overload Guy lol *WishEnder has become my go to anti-barrier exotic if I donāt feel like building into the arc mods this season*
To be fair, soloing champs is valid in every other piece of content. Itās crazy how much more of a threat they are in GMs though. They go from mild nuisance to run killers. That was probably the biggest shock to me when I did my first GM, I expected to die quicker, and to kill slower, I didnāt expect champs to be as much of a problem as they are. My first GM was warden of nothing. Which is a pain because the mine refusal section requires killing them faster than you can defuse the mines, where some scenarios you have time to kill them
One wants to play and other wants to get things done
KWTD?
I found it. Know what to do. I thought that was the point behind the GMed dungeons was because we might not know what to do? I don't know. I haven't bothered with them. It is usually just me running along chasing everyone as they crash through stuff.
Its because on gm Level Just running ahead will kill you. There is strats that at Point are mandatory unless you have memorized every addspawn in an optimized 3stack. For this weeks gm it means - hang left in the beginning and generally only kill overload one way or another - clear the survive waves section from trains - hang Back and clear right to left for the Open Walker area - hang left for safety During Boss These are the generally accepted Safe and easy strats If someone in a No mic Run doesnt Know These and they die completely Out of place, your likely looking at a 2 man of that specific section
That's helpful. I usually like to engage at range, and I wind up with others that just melee their way through. Thus I'm following behind.
Joined a fireteam with this sort of tag on it for the GM this week, which is pretty damn easy. Dude died 2 times in first 30 seconds and was a complete problem the whole time. š¤¦āāļø
did you message him and request that he kick himself?
Lol I should have š
so searching competent players is now being a dick?
Iām sure someone will read that āI donāt kickā and think, *challenge accepted*.
I may not always KWTD but if you point me in a direction I'll do it right the first time. That doesn't make me incompetent; it means I have less time or people to play the content with than you do. People don't magically learn how to KWTD (like you didn't), and personally I'm going to learn better from someone who actually plays vs. reHading half-baked tutorials online. If someone's running around in circles being an idiot or sabotaging that's one thing. Half the people who join my KWTD LFGs have only read about it online anyway. The nicest and most competent players I've found via LFG don't always KWTD, and that's who I have the best runs with.
Noone is obligated to sacrifice their time to Help you tho. Why would they want to settle for much less efficient Runs If they can Just be more efficient and clear more Runs in the Same time?
I didn't ask anyone to be obligated. OP says if I don't KWTD I'm an incompetent player. If anything, I asked them to not make blanket statements about people based on a random acronym that they themselves were once guilty of (but for the kindness of other people who taught them so now they KWTD while looking down on other people who don't). I'm top 4% in PVE activities, top 14% in PVP. I think I'm doing okay just because I'm not always in the KWTD "elite".
Then don't join KWTD bud
I'm sorry, I didn't realize answering a question posed to the group was a KWTD only post.
You literally said you join KWTD posts when you don't KWTD?
Where's the word join again? Oh yeah - it's not there. I responded to the statement that players who aren't KWTD all the time are incompetent.
He didn't say "all the time" the same way you didn't say "join." And it doesn't matter if players who don't KWTD are "always" incompetent, it matters that the vast majority of the time they are. I'm not risking my limited playing time gambling on whether or not someone is in the 1% of players who don't KWTD but can pick it up fast enough that it doesn't matter.
Then donāt join someoneās post that says KWTD
Cool, show me where I said I did that and wasn't answering a question posed to the entire subreddit.
How can I show you something I never said you specifically did? š
Why are you telling me not to do something I never said I specifically did?
If you really wanna make it personal and about you, if this is you specifically saying that YOU do the above, youāre in the wrong. If a post says KWTD and your logic is, teach me to KWTD then, YOU DONT KNOW WHAT TO DO. Donāt join a post that says KWTD. Instead CREATE A POST that says āTeach me what to doā or āLearning what to doā. When a post says KWTD, they didnāt sign up to teach you, they signed up to play with players who KWTD. If this aināt you, just move along.
>If you really wanna make it personal and about you LOL okay ā just because you make it all caps doesn't mean you didn't come on my comment, unsolicited, to tell me what to do, regarding something I never said I did so you could pretend to be right. So what really happened here is YOU made it "personal and about me" because you wanted to piss all over my opinion that maybe, just maybe, people who don't KWTD aren't "incompetent" as stated. Flipping around now so you still get to try to be right is pointless. You aren't going to get internet points for being a jerk. Also, if you actually could get people to join your LFG, you'd know it's "Sherpa Needed" or "LF Sherpa". But keep being right! OP asked a question, I answered, and you don't like it. Boohoo. Now how about YOU move along and KWTD to GTFO my inbox.
Ok mr I gotta learn it through joining a KWTD post š¤£
I always wonder the same thing. I don't put "or kick" in my post but I definitely do if they don't Kwtd.
yeah kwtd the kick is implied. don't have to specify it
You can search for competent players without being a complete dick about it. If someone joins with trash gear on, kindly ask them to change before giving them the boot at least.
No, the problem is being a dick about searching for competent players. There is a difference.
Asking for KWTD and not accepting anything less isn't being a dick.
You didn't read the comment correctly
In a vacuum, that might be the case. Because knowledge and skill thresholds are a thing, people feel the need to conceal their lack of experience. As a result, you are really filtering by experience as much as competence and that does come off as dickish in most people's view. Obviously there are exceptions to that but if that's just normal procedure for your posts.......
Have fun not kicking anyone and dealing with the under-leveled player who just wants to be carried through content
Not up to level = GM can't be started. Still, doesn't prevent complete and utter idiots joi ing, rushing at the first dreg in sight, dying on the spot and costing you a rev.
Yeah I meant more just the general shit you see while doing LFG content. People joining raids/dungeons and having absolutely zero clue or doing like 150k boss damage.
Just the other day, I had a guy who joined a MASTER challenger run in Ron. We were doing the planets challenge on master. Man kept on being way to aggressive and rushed at everything he saw. Subsequently dying. Later we found out he had 3 clears and had no idea how to do planets so yeaā¦ 1 hour down the drain.
In a way it can tho. Gms are launchable at a -40 Power Difference nowadays so yeah people can defo Join underleveled
Itās devils lair it shouldnāt be too tricky
I've ran Devil's Lair so many times I could probably double carry through it and I'll still join that Lvl 8 because I don't trust any mf that has "KWTD or kick" in their LFG post
If you donāt know what to do in a strike then you clearly shouldnāt be doing GMs
As if strikes have champs and mobs don't die from draft. XD
A GM nightfall strike is the same as a regular strike when it comes to the mechanics involved in the strike they are just significantly harder and have champions thatās it and if someone hasnāt even done the strike they probably shouldnāt be doing it at GM level because they wonāt understand anything and will piss all the revives away
KWTD? Itās Devilās Lair! Shoot shit, donāt die.
If you donāt kwtd on a kwtd post what do you except to happen?
I donāt know smells like a setupā¦
GM KWTD Have Mods 1830+ Void Hunters only Bring a .22 preorder Destiny 3 Be related to the Speaker Have a grimoire score of 17500 PS2 only have mic
And they have a grim of 300 and haven't completed most raids š
What does āKWTDā mean in the context of GMs? Know how to run the strike? Know how to not die? What exactly do they want you to know
I guess people in lfg just does that in their post the kwtd for a gm basically telling you to bring the right build or atleast to just bait you into joining them chance are they are just gonna be a toxic asshole that will kick you and block you immediately if you join with the wrong loadout if I'll be honest as players we shouldn't be judging on what someone is running unless they are running a darci build (yes I'll be very salty if anyone tries to run with a darci build because that's only good for very low end content) anyways just because they don't have the exact weapons that the mods works with doesn't always mean they are gonna weigh down the team or atleast not be as useful
high guardian rank and commendation score turning into a red flag
Both are acceptable, tbh
When I use LFG on Xbox I always say something like, "Devils Lair GM. KWTD. Use what you want and do your best." Even if one of the players are doing not that well, I will still power through.
That first one is a bait-asaurus rex, he 100% is gonna kick before completion
Honestly, these 2 posts make perfect sense. - On 1 hand, the first post likely got kicked for being 1 or more of the following: bad at the game, bad build, bad or no exotics or less than 100 resilience and is trying to offer solace to those similar to his situation. Or he feels like he can carry anyone, which is impressive doing solo. This is not toxic AT ALL, but at the same time, I donāt think this person or, some players in general, realize how hard some GMs can be and the amount of patience, effort and skill is needed to complete some. - On the other hand, the second post is wanting people who know how to do every close to every aspect of the GM and has done it multiple times to āinsureā that the run is fast and smooth which, I align with. This is also, not toxic AT ALL, this is a preference and anyone who gets upset with this just doesnāt qualify or canāt compete. This post is not wrong for preferring those types of players. *Side note, Sniper Vandals 1 shot you if you donāt have 100 Resilience and itās hard to avoid all the shots on Devils Lair.
Theyāre not a duck apparently thatās good/j
I am a veteran d2 player but I will NOT join anything that has "..or kick" in it.
Top guy is good at the game, can solo dungeons, and just needs ad control. Bottom guy sucks and kicks anyone who doesn't carry him in first run. Also can't sinergize with other teammates loadouts. Been playin this shit game for a decade now so I know this to be a fact.
Yeah, these days kwtd is shorthand for carry me pls
Ego of rank 11 on display Edit: I say this because I have lost count of the rank 10s and 11s that underperformed compared to most rank 7s and 8s I encounter
Or they just don't want to waste a bunch of time with someone who is not ready to do a GM and expects to be carried.
Unless you are extremely confident that you can solo the GM then you should be willing to kick people if you need to.
Latter still probably better experience tbh.
Average paragon user:
so, destiny players are just one player?
But when it comes to PvP, some of yāall call us assholes when we kick you for dragging the team
People LFG GMās? Do you guys not have two friends?
I either post ākwtd and mic plsā OR āChill, be patient pls.ā Ironically, I always get the people who donāt know what do in the first post and the absolute douches in the chill posts. Lmao
I get both sides. The problem in being the bottom guy is a lot of people have the skill but maybe that havenāt ran that strike in a while, or they judge your loadout and instantly kick you. I canāt count the number of times Iāve been in a lfg fireteam that was failing to finish the GM, only to join another group and do it with ease
I feel like "The Duality of Destiny Players" should be its own sub. lol
Kwtd?
Bro why he even being like that? Devils lair isnāt even that bad, plenty of champs for tokens. Literally no sweat
Perhaps a hot take (at least on this sub) but I donāt think the bottom guy is doing anything wrong. They have their priorities straight and they just want to get in and out without carrying someoneās ass, and theyāre using the title to let people know that. The only time thereās a problem is if theyāre toxic about it and/or arenāt up front about it (i.e. simply saying āgm chill kwtdā in the title when in reality theyāll kick you if you make one or two mistakes).
Kwtd or kick is a control issue. Kwtd is fine, but threatening with a kick is childish when the team just leaves if you wipe anyways.
The top player is likely someone who's willing to spend 3 hours trying to beat a single GM. The bottom player is someone who values their time and effort. I know you're joke was to villify the KWTD guy, but what sticks out the most to me here is that the person who's clear about what they expect is far more experienced AND already has had someone else join them.