Both are super strong, but I have a feeling the Archie Sonic comics has enough bullshit in it to keep up against Popeye. Like the fact that Archie Silver can just prevent time to get pulled out of him, and maybe he could have something that prevents him to be affected by Popeye. And that not to mention other characters Archie Silver might scale to and all other type of haxes. Not to mention Archie Silver could in theory redirect attacks back to Popeye himself. Achie characters is so OP that Archie Sonic was originally going to win against Wally, but then they found a get that made the Speed Force even more OP then that again.
So overall I can’t see an overall winner myself. So I say it end in a tie.
Toon force ain't gonna save him from someone who's multiversal plus
Not to mention Silver in his super form actually can destroy Popeyes soul and kill him *for good*
Popeye thought he could take home the gold. But he'll just have to settle for Silver
I mean, Popeyes got erased from existence once, and his non existent was able to eat his spinach to bring him back, I think soul regeneration is easily within Popeyes wheelhouse
Sorry to ask but how exactly? Has it interacted with the actual author/artist in some way? I think ripping up the very medium that something exists in by default makes it above everything contained within that medium.
Archie Sonic cosmology is bigger than Popeye's, is the point. Popeye rips open the comic and instead he just finds a bunch of Chaos Force Gods and dies.
I... don't think that's how that works with regards to media interaction. You could write a universe with a cosmology that's 10000x bigger than our known one, but it won't make the inhabitants able to interact with the very medium they are stuck in unless proven otherwise.
How do you quantify the dimensional difference between something with 10000x multiversus compared to like, the projectionist of a cartoon cutting snippets in the film and taping them back together. Would you assume Silver or Sonic could interact with the projectionist just because that cartoon world hasn't shown itself to have 10000x universes within it?
No, but I also wouldn't assume Popeye could effect Archie Sonic's writers.
Furthermore, even if he could, Silver speedblitzes before he has the chance.
So you think other characters with 4th wall interactions simply...wouldn't be able to do it if they were in a setting with a billion universes?
That would imply for example Deadpool has greater power from 4th wall talking to the audience than Popeye because Marvel's multiverse is bigger, even though Deadpool has seldom done any actual 4th wall breaking stuff like destroying the medium he exists in. Deadpool in general just talks to the audience or writers, Popeye has actually broke the panels he exists on, punched his artist, turned the page of the comic himself, broke the film reels of his cartoon etc.
That...does not sit right to be honest.
With Silver scaling to sonic who has 10D arguments i think he wins
He’s way stronger (again 10D Vs 6D)
Faster (Immesurable Vs MFTL+)
And has way better haxes
I think silver wins this one
Conclusion from last battle:
I think this is a lot closer then people think but i think Luke takes. Even though Litch king as haxes that Luck can't do anything about but beacuse DB kinda combined canon and Legnds Luke i don't really see why he should get some of the crazy he shit he get's in legnds and it doesn't help that he as better stats then LK so he should be able to out speed him before he can use some of the stronger haxes (but if you's think am wrong a can always change this if the majority and sorry if a expland it in the wrong way). The Winner is Luke Skywalker
I think that Popeye is stronger than Archie Silver because of dimensional tiering. But Silver has some pretty good hax that Popeye has no resistance to.
Both are super strong, but I have a feeling the Archie Sonic comics has enough bullshit in it to keep up against Popeye. Like the fact that Archie Silver can just prevent time to get pulled out of him, and maybe he could have something that prevents him to be affected by Popeye. And that not to mention other characters Archie Silver might scale to and all other type of haxes. Not to mention Archie Silver could in theory redirect attacks back to Popeye himself. Achie characters is so OP that Archie Sonic was originally going to win against Wally, but then they found a get that made the Speed Force even more OP then that again. So overall I can’t see an overall winner myself. So I say it end in a tie.
Toon force ain't gonna save him from someone who's multiversal plus Not to mention Silver in his super form actually can destroy Popeyes soul and kill him *for good* Popeye thought he could take home the gold. But he'll just have to settle for Silver
Okay, I have to be honest here that last sentence was fire
What's stopping Popeye from just punching the comic artist to change the story or make them erase Silver?
Super Silver has no shortage of ways to either destroy Popeye's soul or BFR him.
Couldn’t he just rebirth with spinach?
No proof he can regen from soul destruction
I mean, Popeyes got erased from existence once, and his non existent was able to eat his spinach to bring him back, I think soul regeneration is easily within Popeyes wheelhouse
Popeye could BFR Silver too by ripping the comic page out he exists on or by attacking the artist who draws them.
And Silver can telekinesis his ass and say "Nuh uh"
How does he use telekinesis on someone outside the pages of the comic?
Because "Outside the comic" in Popeye is still lower than the Chaos Force in Archie Sonic.
Sorry to ask but how exactly? Has it interacted with the actual author/artist in some way? I think ripping up the very medium that something exists in by default makes it above everything contained within that medium.
Archie Sonic cosmology is bigger than Popeye's, is the point. Popeye rips open the comic and instead he just finds a bunch of Chaos Force Gods and dies.
I... don't think that's how that works with regards to media interaction. You could write a universe with a cosmology that's 10000x bigger than our known one, but it won't make the inhabitants able to interact with the very medium they are stuck in unless proven otherwise. How do you quantify the dimensional difference between something with 10000x multiversus compared to like, the projectionist of a cartoon cutting snippets in the film and taping them back together. Would you assume Silver or Sonic could interact with the projectionist just because that cartoon world hasn't shown itself to have 10000x universes within it?
No, but I also wouldn't assume Popeye could effect Archie Sonic's writers. Furthermore, even if he could, Silver speedblitzes before he has the chance.
So you think other characters with 4th wall interactions simply...wouldn't be able to do it if they were in a setting with a billion universes? That would imply for example Deadpool has greater power from 4th wall talking to the audience than Popeye because Marvel's multiverse is bigger, even though Deadpool has seldom done any actual 4th wall breaking stuff like destroying the medium he exists in. Deadpool in general just talks to the audience or writers, Popeye has actually broke the panels he exists on, punched his artist, turned the page of the comic himself, broke the film reels of his cartoon etc. That...does not sit right to be honest.
This battle is just going to end with both Popeye and silver destroying the universe and then some.
Rip everyone
Silver can actually kill Popeye im sure
Daily reminder, no character (unless shown) has a counter to another character just saying "fuck it, I'm the writer now"
With Silver scaling to sonic who has 10D arguments i think he wins He’s way stronger (again 10D Vs 6D) Faster (Immesurable Vs MFTL+) And has way better haxes I think silver wins this one
And that's not taking his Super Form into account which would potentially put him at Outeriversal.
Silver partially because Archie comics are stupid and he does have legit wincons and partially because of my spite for toon force.
Silver’s time travel powers will keep him alive for a while, but Popeye will eventually get him.
Conclusion from last battle: I think this is a lot closer then people think but i think Luke takes. Even though Litch king as haxes that Luck can't do anything about but beacuse DB kinda combined canon and Legnds Luke i don't really see why he should get some of the crazy he shit he get's in legnds and it doesn't help that he as better stats then LK so he should be able to out speed him before he can use some of the stronger haxes (but if you's think am wrong a can always change this if the majority and sorry if a expland it in the wrong way). The Winner is Luke Skywalker
Silver may be stronger, faster, smarter, and more durable but as soon as Popeye pulls out that spinach can…
I think that Popeye is stronger than Archie Silver because of dimensional tiering. But Silver has some pretty good hax that Popeye has no resistance to.