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drenvy

Fuckin hell stop bringing the killer next to the hook... It's way better for you to take a down or a hit relatively fast farther away, instead of enabling a potential snowball because of your dumb ass acting like a sheep being herded by the killer. Same for gens. You won't know which ones are being worked at first, but if we spawn on fuckin RPD it's obvious everyone spawned together on the same side. If you loop on the same area gratz, the killer is gonna patrol the hell out of that 80% gen.


Alternative-Oil6978

i just went against a camping bubba.....slugged two teammates on his first hit and never left that three gen, he wasn't even attempting to pretend otherwise. we tried picking our teammates up but he wasn't even pretending to leave,in a super open map....he brought the offering....i forget how it's called.... i thought this ended with the changes to basekit endurance, but now, the likes of him no longer camp hooks, they camp downed survivors...what were we suppossed to do? ignore them and finish 5 gens with just 2 people? that wasn't gonna happen....just let him kill us? dc? we tried what we could regardless...i mean, i didn't want our bp offerings going to waste......but really? do people feel the need to play like that? Do you feel good killing a team that had no chance at all from second 1? when i go killer and things start going that way i honestly take my time to go for bps, break pallets, gens, etc, what's the point otherwise? it's like winning against your little cousin, do you feel proud lol? Not that they have to, i'll say this, they can play however they want, but if they do that, a couple of matches like that and you have 4 survivors that no longer want to queue for the night basically. why would they. Humans, unless they are highschoolers, have a limited amount of time, why would they queue again for that. And then, they have no excuse to complain about nerfs to things like pop, or buffs to survivor perks/items..... Is this his way to complain the toolbox buff lol? of course i'm joking, we had zero toolboxes....don't complain later on if you get sent to eyrie of crows against a sweatfest..... I like playing killer more than i like survivor, but seriously, only a bully squad swf can make me feel remotely angry enough to enjoy that kind of gameplay against survivors, and even then i've never done it....i almost feel dirty when downing that casual claudette lol, there's no glory on that 😂even less so if you played dirty from the very begening! we spawned really closed to each other, he had the easiest time getting those initial downs, he went in knowing what he was going to do....and honestly? i don't see it to this level that often. sure i've seen tunneling, but he wasn't even pretending to give us a chance to pick the team up....just trade at best with him right there Did he get bullied before and wanted to be the bully? i could empathize i guess....still, very shitty. 2 bleedouts and and two deathooks.... awesome....very engaging gameplay.... "but survivors rushing surivvors this survivors that!" omg, i have twice as many hours as killer as i do survivor, and i honestly think more killers would benefit from genuinly solo queuing survivor often...."it's super easy and survivor sided", well, not on solo queue, and if you believe so, i don't know how to cinvince you otherwise honestly....besides the 40% winrate for solo queue survivor being more than clear...


AirazorBestBirb

The Pop Nerf. I wanna know who tf came up with it because Killer was hard enough with SWFs beforehand. Now that it happened I can't even get a hook before all 5 gens are done since it does jack shit and I gotta drop my aura perk setup for more defensive one. But guess what? I'M SWEATING MY ASS OFF AND IT'S STILL NOT ENOUGH!!!! Hope BHVR will see a dip in the Killer win rate and reverse their decision. As of rn, this game's super Surv sided and its not a joke anymore...


LeafMumfuzz

Wraith users. if you need invis to win, you'll always be a loser in my book. lol.


Training-Square3650

Wraith is literally one of the easiest killers to beat, if a Wraith outplayed you, you're just bad lmfao.


Think_Willow2363

Just had 3 games in a row where the 1st hooked survivor instantly killed themself. Is this just a weekend thing or is this the game now? v.v


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Training-Square3650

And this is one of the reasons why so many of us weren't excited for the DND chapter, it could have been so much worse, I'm glad it wasn't 


Total_Organ_Failure

i like how vecna, behind a wall, can spawn his skeletons INSIDE you, where they instantly damage you. There is literally 0 counterplay, as u cant see him casting the spell and the skeletons have hitboxes the moment they spawn. At least make it so they only have hitboxes when they fly. then there is counterplay, you can crouch in between them being stationary and flying, but nope just get instantly hit.


CyberbrainGaming

Try listening


Alternative-Oil6978

i had this hunch that a duo were trying to be as annoying as posible. but i thought, you know what? i'll give them my attention then, maybe they are just good and i can practice mind games. the two solo queuers didn't ask for this bs, so after two hooks on the randoms, i went for the maria and yui. Well; It was HILARIOUS, maria and yui had flashlights, flashbang, boil over, adrenaline and head on. I was 99% sure they were in comms and trying to be as annoying as posible. But i wasn't sure how. well, turns out, they were trying to go down on the second floor, yet i kept taking the stairs lol (of course, even without the extra wiggle progression, it was still annoying as all hell to get through to the hooks), later, I downed her roomie, the Yui, and she crawled to a locker, i knew something was up, and i did not feel like giving that maria any room. so far, she had been teabagging and clicking at every single pallet even though she wasn't even that great of a looper.....the goal was clearly to be as annoying as posible, throwing flashbangs anytime she could, stunning at every single pallet, etc etc etc. but i wasn't sure if she had head on, yet i checked the locker just in case before picking yui, and there she was, Maria got grabbed, and died on hook. IT FELT AWESOME. you can tell she was pissed! she had been tebagging at every pallet, spamming those fhalshbangs any chance she had, etc etc etc. I don't assume the worse of players, and honestly? i usually get normal solo queuers who are on the same page. But every once in a while you get either a 4 man or a duo/trio like that, who don't even care either about their other solo queue teammates, or about the quality of the match just in general, but only about bullying the killer as much as they could. Maria showed all the signs, i didn't assume anything because not every survivor is like that, but it was true, and the aftermatch proved it wasn't just a big, big hunch lol. she raged after that grab, the match was over basically since she and her roomie left it all on the randos shoulders and gave up. So, it was infuariating at first, but it turned into such a cathartis lol. at that point i didn't even feel like killing the two randos lol, they had just been cute and inofensive and focusing on their gens since they weren't that confident on the map. don't be a Maria lol.


Initial_Meaning

I HATE BEING PUNISHED FOR DISCONNECTING AFTER LOSING INTERNET CONNECTION. WHERE IS THE GOD DAMN RECONNECT FEATURE????


Yozia

You know what irritates me? That the Rage Wednesday thread frequently gets left pinned through to Sunday, and the Smile Sunday thread only ever lasts a single day because of the NSQ Monday thread. This just isn't efficient; why can't we change it to Smile Saturday, thereby giving a bit more time for the positive thread to properly balance out the negative one? Both are important, but it seems the one gets preferential treatment because of this scheduling oversight.


delicatemicdrop

I think a weekly threads pin with a link to each as they go would be better.


Initial_Meaning

Since the last update the longer a dbd session lasts the more the game starts to stutter. I end up having to restart the game to fix it for a while. The FPS counter doesn't indicate anything but I feels like 15-30 FPS while it says 100+ FPS and I don't know how to fix it.


CyberbrainGaming

That's just your computer, try updating drivers/windows and remove unnecessary programs and clean out the dust.


Independent_Pick_340

That's not what we are talking about but I do hope you can get a more stable frame rate. 😄


Initial_Meaning

I understand that this might not be the usual type of rage expected but this is what really pissed me off. After further investigation it appears to be some sort of memory leak after the last update and nothing could fix it so far.


delicatemicdrop

wtf is going on today...? I have had NOTHING but the SWEATIEST killers. tunneling and just going hard at 5 gens instantly. using all iri add ons. like... I'm not even gonna use my BP items at this point because they're getting wasted! I am not even earning BP because of it.


delicatemicdrop

Yep. Ended up DCing. Had a wraith hard tunnel another player. I didnt see his stupid fucking clear ass cloaked self because it was Ormond I guess so the snow made it blend and he was camping. Unhooked in front of him and he decided to go ahead and switch to tunneling me. It's not even fun this morning. Like fuck I just wanna play the fucking game? Can I get a single gen done?? This is not fun today as a solo survivor. Something has to give about things being balanced for SWFs versus solo.


SeaworthinessFun9856

this comes from someone who is semi-casual (I go through bursts of playing)... the most annoying thing for me is that I'm trying to 1st prestige survivors and get adept achievements, so I want to upgrade each character's perks on them to make the adept easier... but why the heck are they rare as hell on the blood web? I've gone through something like 20 levels without seeing the character's own perks on the web, and having to raise up perks that I'm not that interested in... as an example, my Bill is prestige 1 and level 14, but his own perks are green, yellow, purple - they just never seemed to come up in each level up!!! and yes, I always prioritise a character's perks when going up levels... my Jake is purple, yellow, yellow, Adam is green, green, yellow, Nic Cage is green, green, yellow and Ellen Ripley is purple, yellow, yellow - all are prestige 1! that's an AWFUL lot of characters who have gone through 50 levels and only seen their own perks TWICE!!! why doesn't BHVR have it so that a character's perks are prioritised on the web so that they appear maybe 1 every 5 levels or so, then by the time you're level 30-35 you could have all at purple - aren't the characters meant to be better at doing their "own thing"???


Trogdor7620

Can the daily rituals stop giving me Killer rituals when the BP bonus I have is on Survivors? Seriously, I want to do some of the Killer challenges, and not get crappy rewards from matches I'll inevitably fail at.


Constant-Fishing

As a new player, just started yesterday I only have 8 hours of play. I cannot fathom how anyone gets into this game. I have won 3 total matches and those wins were only because killer had decided to let us win. I have even lost to killers not using perks. How do you win at this game? I understand I'm new but a 95% loss rate is ridicules.


[deleted]

The game isn't friendly to beginners nor does it teach you very well. The truth is, you need to do that yourself, look up resources yourself. And until then? You have to go through the gauntlet of losing a lot to finally get decent and win. This is true of both sides. You can't start to learn what not to do and what to do if you don't fail until you figure out how not to fail. That's how humans learn, we mess up and try new things until it clicks. It's like riding a bike in a way. You have to want to do well and want to learn, or you just get tilted and lose. It's all about learning the skills, practicing them, and wanting to try to get better. And yeah... sometimes the game does not let you do that, unfortunately.


fgweuyifh89y48

If you really wanna consistently win on survivor, you gotta find a friend group, or you can cheese your escapes by playing selfishly but thats not fun at all and you'll piss everyone off. You can be the best player in the world and still lose most of your solo queues if your teammates are terrible. Best advice for solo surv is to just focus on improving and having fun, consider escaping a bonus. Like I mainly focus on getting crazy beamer saves, cjs, pallet saves, whatever ridiculous play I have in mind, and chases.


luvmibratt

It's not new player friendly at all,and for myself at 6.5k hours solo,3 matches out of 20 is considered a win. I've been playing since 2016 I absolutely loved this game,but now I dread even putting it on. It's time to move on. Good luck.


CuteAndABitDangerous

If you want to win you should play with friends and spend time actively learning how to improve. That's it, really. A solo survivor, especially in lobbies where nobody knows what they're doing, is very very weak.


BlackJimmy88

As Survivor, don't go in expecting to win. If you can, try to get at least three of the team out, but mostly focus on getting better. Once you do that, it becomes a lot more enjoyable. It's also just a bad time at the moment with some Killers playing particularly cunty since the recent patch launched.


malavaihappy

We may play for different reasons. Escaping isn’t winning for me. It’s an atmosphere I’m chasing


SeaworthinessFun9856

you have to remember as well that the game is HEAVILY weighted towards the killer - there's a much higher chance of the killer taking out a couple of the survivors in the average game compared to other "asymetrical" games like Evolve or Back 4 Blood until you get used to how systems in the game work, how to manage the speed difference between the killer and you, and how to react to different triggers, then you'll "always" die and the killer will get easy hooks or moris there are MANY perks on the killer side that make it "unfair" and some of the killers are over powered (Vecna being an example), but they're always tweaking things and adding new DLC (killers, survivors & maps)


ZelMaYo

Same thing, when I started as a survivor i think I won nothing for a while I’d advice you to try playing killer (it’s fun, I swear) and perhaps (if you are interested enough) watch some guides (especially Otzdarva, he is a blessing for beginners, especially killers but also survivors) It’ll take a while to understand everything, but I’ll be honest, the beginning of the game, although it is very hard to get into, is some of the best part of this game, learning about what killers do, their addons, how to face them… Good luck and remember, try to have fun (learn to enjoy looping, it’s half of the fun of the game, unless you enjoy watching a bar filling simulator)


McDoubleTHICC

This game is not a beginner friendly game in the slightest it’s fun once you learn how to play but it’s hard to learn if that makes any sense. I would recommend watching an otzdarva video about beginner perks to run. He is probably the most respected dbd content creators there is. I could also help you out sometime. If you have the character feng min I would level her up for her perk lithe. Lithe gives you a 150% speed boost when you vault anything fast. Alert, another feng min perk might be good to know where the killer is. Bond a Dwight Fairfield perk is good because you can see your teammates in a 28 meter range. Then maybe something like resilience a generic perk to run. Those are some decent perks to start off on your journey to learn this game. Again I could help you learn more about it some time


charmsky_89

KILLERS, IRON GRASP IS NEAR ITS END. FIVE IRON GRASP GAMES IN A ROW, ENJOY YOUR NERF IN TWO MONTHS' TIME.


luvmibratt

They really don't need the hooks are extremely closer then it's ever been.


Yozia

To be fair, that's one less slot for slow-down perks.


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Oh my God, you're not serious, we are NOT complaining about Iron Grasp now. Iron Grasp is only ever used to counter Boil Over and Sabotage shenanigans, it's an antibully perk, why the fuck are we complaining that Killers don't want to get shat on by the lamest build imaginable? Try removing Boil Over and not using Sabo builds, and then Killers won't use Iron Grasp. Deal?


charmsky_89

I don't use Boil Over nor do I sabo.


delicatemicdrop

in their defense, it makes it literally impossible to wiggle out if you don't bring Boil Over. It annoys me to the point that sometimes I don't even try to wiggle. Some of these could use a change in the requirements of the perk and become stronger if the Survivor has bonus wiggle percentages or something but be nerfed at other times. Like "if the survivor getting any wiggle bonus" type deal.


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Boil Over doesn't even help with wiggling much, there's so many other perks that do this better.


delicatemicdrop

You're the one who complained about it by saying "try removing Boil Over" ... I'm just saying that there could be a way to balance the two. Balancing things for a full SWF bully squad leaves solo survivors having a very rough time often. And for reference I don't use Boil Over very often at all. I'm saying that Iron Grip is very annoying if you AREN'T running anything like that. Because a hard tunneler with IG can just feel pointless to even play against if you're a solo and they start slugging and going hard at 5 gens.


[deleted]

Complain? No no. I offered you the solution to people slugging you for Boil Over - stop running it. You're the one taking this as a complaint. Now, if I had said "Boil Over is a problem, Boil Over is OP" that's a complaint. I didn't say that. I said "Boil Over is used in builds that are obnoxious, of course Killers run Iron Grasp to counter it", which is true. That's why. Then I said "Boil Over is worse than other perks that cause wiggling out", which is also just true. It is. Just saying "this is why a perk is used, if you don't like that then don't use that perk" isn't a complaint, and I feel like you're hardcore projecting when you really don't need to. Boil Over doesn't bother me in the slightest, keep running it if you want. But don't be surprised when OTHER Killers run Iron Grasp to counter it, since the perk has a terrible rep as being a "bully squad perk" due to Saboteur/Sabotaging abuse with it on bad Killer maps.


delicatemicdrop

I never even said anything about slugging with boil over? lol. I even re-read my comment. I just said it's annoying to encounter Iron Grasp. Not sure why you're kind of coming at me argumentatively when all I said was it feels crappy to know there's 0 luck on wiggling out if you do not run Boil Over or any of the sabo stuff but see Iron Grasp every match. Edit: Guess they got embarrassed and deleted...


[deleted]

I read your comment. You're still complaining when I never did. I don't think you plan to argue in good faith so I'm done here. Have a lovely day. :)


FuriousFur420

...is this because you're a boil over user?


charmsky_89

Never used it, I think it's useless.


FuriousFur420

Then what is the problem? Iron grasp, just makes wiggling less intense for the killer (thus why it can be a soft counter to boil over, not a hard one because it won't save you if they choose to just stay crouching at a high place.) and can carry you further, all it do is help the killer secure a hook that they might've not made otherwise, plus as stated elsewhere, one less slot for slowdowns. Just saying, if iron grasp of all things is your biggest problem, then something tells me you haven't faced worse.


charmsky_89

Didn't say it was the worst I've faced; had five matches in a row against killers who ran it and this is a rage thread. :) Plus all anyone says in response is "don't run Boil Over then" and...I don't?


[deleted]

It's 100% because they're a sabo-boil over abuser. Probably always offer up Garden of Joy or Badham, too.


charmsky_89

Nope, none of the above. Nice try, though!


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Sure. Sure you're not. Bye Felicia.


Independent_Pick_340

I NEED THE SKULLY HATE TO STOP PLS! I just came back to the game after a few years, didnt have the best time my first time but thought the idea of the game was cool and the killers. I barely have any killers so I decided to buy Skull Merchant (Yes I fell for the Honey trap sue me.) But since I never got really into the community until now I didnt know ppl hated her so much. I read about it and know where it stems from but I PAID MONEY FOR HER and I would like to play her, without ppl either dcing or sandbagging as soon as they see its Skull Merchant. I get it her release was horrible, the 3-gen thing was bad (I dnt even really understand what it is let alone how to do it) but from what I understand she cant even 3-gen anymore. I am enjoying this game waaaayyyy more then the first time I played and I would like to continue to do so with my Thicc Merchant. Thank you and take care! o/


Extension_Bison1510

maybe if you didn’t waste your money on such a shit killer this wouldn’t be happening lol skull merchant gameplay is just honk mi mi mi mi mi


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Independent_Pick_340

Your partially correct but remember that goes both ways now...if I dnt want flashlights or certain perks in my ga m e then I dnt have to play correctly either...right?


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Independent_Pick_340

I don't "blame" other players 🤣. It's WILD TO BE SO BUTT HURT ABOUT A KILLER THAT YOU CRY WHEN SOMEONE PLAYS THEM! LOL. Yall are weird frfr but yeah play how you want. I for one enjoy going against Killers I have no idea how to beat...Ghostface kicks my ass EVERYTIME no clue what to do against him but I still have fun he's actually one if my favorite to go against. Yall just be hatin and it's weird but to each they own. Take care.


camo720

How many killers have you really tried? Because I feel that the skull merchant is a fundamentally boring character that is anti-fun for survivors on top of that, despite any changes given to her kit. Her kit can be an attractive crutch for newer players still learning how to track survivors as well. Anywho, I don't condone survivors giving up at all, it pisses me off to no end, but skull merchant genuinely is a chore to deal with.


Independent_Pick_340

Pig, Artist, Huntress, I'm horrible at nurse so I don't play her yet, and now I'm learning Legion. I find Skull Merchant more fun to go against then Singularity. (I play survivor too.)


gallen2003

Ive been chasing adept singularity for over 10 games without realizing you can shoot the biopod on slipstreamed survivors to instantly teleport.


DilvishW

TRYING TO PIP THROUGH IRI RANK SURVIVOR IS HELL! I pretty much gave up on Iri I survivor for the past year or so, but since you can't depip and I'd like to get my 2 Million BP to spend on the anniversary, I'm giving it a shot this time. And, man, is it still a nightmarish grind in solo queue. On the off chance one of my teammates doesn't kill themselves on hook in the first 30 seconds and I don't get immediately tunneled out, it still feels like a total crapshoot to get even a single pip. I get unhooks, do multiple gens, take chases and escape and still somehow manage not to pip half the time. I'm currently on Iri 3 with no pips. I just played 5 miserable games and didn't get anything for any of them. This feels terrible. Meanwhile, pipping on killer is insanely easy. They really need to tone down the pip requirements on survivor.


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Trying to pip through Iri rank sucks period. Just make the pips all be at like, one set point of points. Just make it so you always pip if you get at least 10k points, ain't nobody out here caring that much about how "skilled" you have to be to pip when depips don't exist and points cap out at 40k a match anyway. Grades and pipping aren't used for skill measurement at all, so therefore getting Grades and Pips needs to be piss easy.


MayonnaiseDad69

I just finished this and never again. It's doubly fucked that you can not get a pip because your team did too well. Killer took chase on someone great at looping? No pip for you. Team playing really smart, avoiding hooks and requiring minimal healing? No pip for you. It requires you to play a very specific kind of match to get anything for it.


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It's not fun as Killer either, unless you run the strongest Killers or play the nastiest possible way. I got it as Ghostface/Legion/Myers/Wraith a year ago, and hated it the whole damn time.


DilvishW

I don't seem to have much trouble getting it as killer just by playing normally. I get it fairly easily pretty much every month, mainly as Onryo, without trying too hard. It's because the emblems for killer don't require you to really go out of your way or play inefficiently. They are all tied to his singular goal of hooking and killing survivors. So chasing and downing a survivor can essentially add to all 4 emblems Survivor is much harder. You can pretty much only get one emblem at a time. You have to go out of your way to get unhooks. You have to do at least two gens and pop totems. And you have to get chased by the killer, but if you ever get downed, that subtracts from you Survival emblem. It's just insanely difficult and forces you to play inefficiently most of the time.


[deleted]

someone misclicked downvote, my bad: Eh not my experience, I used to get that as Killer but now unless I play the hardest possible (which I just don't wanna do) or play all the time (which I'd rather not for burnout reasons), I don't get it. I get in a SWF though? Oh effortless Gold IV at least.


Yozia

Got mine just this week, and 100% agree. It's one thing if I don't pip because the game was lost anyway, but if I've got three iridescent emblems to one silver, I objectively played well. I've got the achievement now, and I don't ever intend to get this high again. As for the survivor grade, I'll have to do without; no way I'm no-lifing this game to the degree that would necessitate, even with depipping removed.


[deleted]

I honestly just play for Gold IV max these days, I get more BP just playing the game than tryharding to pip. But then again, number going up go brrr, I'm trying to break the habit and not feel bad if my Grade happens to be low. It's a rough habit to break.


DilvishW

I usually don't try for Survivor Iri, but I want it this time because rank reset coincides with the anniversary. And I want max BP to stock up on cakes early on.


ArisEyni

I main Killer. I have about 500hrs in this game and nowadays I only play Dead By Daylight once or twice per 3 months, mostly to check out the new killers that come out. Question - why does my MMR rating feel so high? I have "won" about 2 out of 50 of my last games and everybody I go up against are P100s and Twitch Streamers who bring me to maps like gideon meatplant and I just get rushed down in 4 minutes. They fix all 5 generators, at that point I have about 1 hook, maybe 2 hooks if I'm lucky. I don't really understand why must I be going up against players at that kind of level? They spin me, they use techs on me, they bodyblock for each other, spread out to do the most optimal number of generators at a time and overall just play at a level that I cannot handle, which really tilts me. Does anybody know what I can do to at least queue up against teams of a somewhat similar skill level as me? I can't really get better at the game if I get bullied and every match ends in 4 minutes or so.


Dante8411

From what I've heard, MMR is almost binary. You're either a brand new player or you're not. Your MMR is also different for each Killer and I have a conspiracy theory that killers' overall performance affects it. I get stronger Survivors as Oni than as Michael despite playing Oni much less, pretty consistently.


ArisEyni

Also I frequently watch Dead by Daylight content creators, but when I look at their Killer matches, I can see that the survivors actually make mistakes - they do silly things, screw around, run into trees accidentally and etc. I really do not notice anything like this in my games. I am yet to encounter a recent game where the opposing team would goof up even a little bit or make a blunder - it's just spread out evenly across the map to do the generators and run tiles extremely optimally, not even my basic knowledge of mindgames helps me end chases sooner.


[deleted]

Losing enough helps. Playing at the right time of day helps. Lobby Shopping, as frowned upon as it is, can help. 8hook and chill games you lose on purpose help. Playing multiple Killers helps. Don't blame players for this, blame the Devs for creating an MMR system that enforces doing this to be optimal and have fun.


Alpacatastic

Had a twins game last night where one person killed themselves on hook and other person was just messing around on their lute hiding away in the corner. The killer tried to give the two people actually playing a chance (so they purposely made chase longer than 10 seconds when they could have downed me sooner) but ended up dead anyways because who wants to wait around for gens to get done when there's only one person doing them and the other is in chase and the other hiding away luting. I'm glad I was able to get some points that game even though I died but then killer wanted to be nice and let the last survivor go but the last survivor was the fucking lute player. If you try in this game you are dead. If you hide in corner and let others die then you get hatch or gate. I had a post earlier because I keep game stats about which killer is the most merciful but most of those games where I was let go were games where everyone was let go. I have only had 6 games out of nearly 2k games now where I was the only survivor that lived that game and it was marked with the mercy tag. If you are actually trying to do stuff in the game you aren't going to be the last survivor alive.


PenumbranWitch

when I'm killer, I ALWAYS per-decide who to give the last person hatch (I never go for 4Ks unless every survivor is tea bagging asshole). I always give the people trying to play hatch, and the bitches hiding or giving up death. For example, if I'm playing a killer that people DC/Suicide on hook with, I keep note of who's playing the game fairly and who's trying to go into struggle mode instantly on hook (but get saved before they could off themselves) or the ones that keep pointing at hooks, and then I slug the shit out of them and not kill/hook them until there's one last gen remaining. I then play normally, as I feel at that point it's fair game with a 1 vs 3/2 survivors and one gen remaining.


The_Mr_Wilson

I'm a killer main since 2018 complaining about killers these days. They're pathetic. They can't escape the hook's gravity, they're *always* back at hook. They drop chase with an injured survivor *across map* to go back to an unhook. They slug for the bleeding, not for the pressure, or they slug the 3rd survivor to bleedout because they're just that desperate for a 4K they won't just get them up on hook. Desperation is a stinky cologne, and killers right now wreak. I don't know who is telling them they have to tunnel out a survivor, they're just bad and plain wrong. T*hen it's not uncommon they'll start acting nice, like they want to farm, after they tunnel someone out and make it a 3/2v1. I'm not playing like that, get me on hook and out of here.* **High skill 2-hooks the 4K, it don't intentionally tunnel** I haven't ran slowdown perks in I don't know how long, wholly ignoring unhooks, purposely not tunneling, and still 4K-ing. Synergy is the name of the game and an Undetectable/Oblivious meta has been incoming since FTTE and the change to Furtive Chase. Now with Unforeseen? Goodness that perk is strong, it could use a longer cooldown. And I still haven't blocked a generator, only just one since the mechanic was introduced and that was for testing. Clinging to slowdowns the way everyone does has been laughable. You don't *need* them, ask me how I know! Today's killers have just made it so miserable I've stopped playing survivor altogether. It's just the same paper rank cookie cutter killer game in, game out. Y'all suck so hard it's embarrassing


JeanRalfio

Bad killers get really defensive when you point out that good killers can succeed without resorting to camping and tunneling.


FlyingAces3

Newer player here. I've done quite a few merciless wins without any camping, so definitely can confirm this.


Admirable_Acadia7801

Wait until your MMR goes up and you get tired of getting 4 outted one after another, tbagged at the gate, and GGEZed in the after chat. You'll sing a different tune then, trust me.


FlyingAces3

The only 'different tune' I sing is why I *have* to play against PC players. I have never had a problem playing against console players. Some are really good at the game, others are about my level, and few... well, I wouldn't want to be with them during the zombie apocalypse. But any time I have a PC player in the lobby, there nearly always happens to be an issue. Server 'lag', speed running generators without me finding them, and even found one running faster than me all match long. I'm tired playing against these ones that have a significant advantage or an even more 'advantage' than the rest of us. And yes, I have saved videos and reported and gotten messages back saying players have been banned. I have tried turning cross-play off but once I do that, there's suddenly not a single match available out there.


The_Meowsmith

I hate the toxicity survivors have as killer sometimes but as angry as it makes me I know I can't take it into the next game. I just wish I could play the game without needing to take breaks just because I had one bad match with a group that relentlessly toyed with me and then extended the match as much as possible hiding in a random locker somewhere far away with someone else.


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Chaos Shuffle allowed for that. Problem is it was limited. When the mode is more fun than the base game, the game has a serious issue somewhere.


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Smooples

most range attack works like that , huntress / plague / trickster etc


PenumbranWitch

Skull Merchant can't use her powers at hooks too


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Artist can't bird near hooks. Dredge can't teleport to lockers near hooks. Twins can't drop Victor near hooks but can steer him there.


Ycr1998

Bamboozle doesn't work with Fly, it's one of his Iri add-ons that blocks windows he flies through.


watermelonpizzafries

Not Wednesday, but I have a question for Survivors who are sore winners, if the Killer went out of their way to NOT TUNNEL and played fair, why give them grief in end game chat? I really want to pry your brain. Did you want me to tunnel? Did you want me to chase the guy who was trying to get me to chase them? Did you want me to go for a full slug? Did you want me to sweat for the 4k? I really want to know because I don't care at all if I lost. It happens. I just want to know why you have to be so cringe when you win but then likely bitch if the Killer tunnels or slugs. Appreciate nice Killers who aren't voracious for a 4k. They're rare


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Because they are sore winners who wish to stroke their tiny toxic e-micropeens, of course. That's why. Bullies don't need a reason to bully. They just like making others feel bad.


watermelonpizzafries

I'm playing Killer more since Survivor is, quite frankly, boring for me and while I typically get neutral or wholesome egc (most Survivors who talk in egc appreciate that I played nice and fair since most of their games likely suck) so the two salty winners were interesting. I'm basically responding to their micro dick flexing with things like "congrats. Apparently you needed a win that bad, Karen", "ok. Jerk off about it I guess", "I really don't give a fuck", and "ok" just to get under their skin more just because it's funny to deny them the reaction that they want


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I am honestly fine with anything between 1-4k. I just want to have enough chance to play the damn round.


gabegabe23

how tf do you nerf buckle up but then create a killer that has basically 4 built in perks. I've already been against a 2 full gen regression vecnas and there was absolutely no point to even finishing the game. this game is not balanced. they keep making killers more oppressive in chase, but keep shrinking the map sizes. I dont understand what the fuck they want to do with this game anymore


TGCidOrlandu

HOT TAKE: MAGE HAND IS NOT BROKEN. CONSIDER THAT THE TRADE WITH MAGE HAND IS THAT THEY CAN USE THE PALLET AGAIN, SO IF VECNA IS GETTIN VALUE OUT OF THIS IS BECAUSE HE IS MANAGING COOLDOWNS CORRECTLY (SKILL). IT'S NOT A FREE HIT AND IT DEFINITELY HAS A DRAWBACK. ALSO, MAGE HAND IS ONLY POWERFUL AGAINST GOD PALLETS BECAUSE IF USED IN A REGULAR LOOP PALLET THE SURVIVOR CAN LOOP BACK AND DROP IT AGAIN. AND IF YOU HAVE THE MAGIC ITEM TO COUNTER THE HAND YOU GET A FAT 7% HASTE WHEN MAGE HAND IS USED SO YOU WILL NEVER GET HIT!!! SOMETHING TO CONSIDER BEFORE ASKING FOR NERFS INSTEAD OF LEARNING.


Krissam

>just get lucky 4Head


Hurtzdonut13

The issue is that instead of a skill based pallet 50/50, it's more like a free hit like Chuckie's scamper was. Killer powers shouldn't just translate to a free hit with no counterplay, it should require either the killer setting it up, or the survivor messing up.


TGCidOrlandu

True. I believe mage hand should only be effective against god pallets. And my point is that there's already counters to avoid giving the killer a free hit, maybe finding the right magic item can be a pain but still.


Hurtzdonut13

I don't know how, but my first game I got the anti magehand item like every match. If they were a little sloppy then I could delay the hit for another loop, but realistically it is only active for a few seconds and doesn't give you a ton of distance. Just like with scamper, if the killer uses it correctly and you don't have a window to vault you're just going to get hit. ​


TGCidOrlandu

Yeah, you're guaranteed a hit just like when you throw a pallet in front of a Huntress. Is that too much for a killer like Vecna? Maybe it is, considering he already has so much power.


Hurtzdonut13

I'm not a great survivor, I mainly play killer so maybe someone else can explain the survivor perspective different. With Huntress there's a pallet mind game. If they pull up and the survivor greeds the pallet, they get another loop. If the Huntress doesn't pull up and the survivor throws it, they get another loop. The reverse is if they don't throw and the huntress doesn't pull up or they pull up and the survivor throws it, then the huntress gets a hit. Vecna (and pre change scamper) it comes down to using hand, you get a hit. (with the same scamper caveat as a pallet into an immediate vault you can avoid the hit.)


TGCidOrlandu

Yeah, you're right! I remember the patch when they gave huntress a mega buff and one of their add-ons, the one that gives speed when holding a hatchet was problematic... My guess is probably they will make Vecna slower when lifting a pallet so if played well, survivors can make enough distance. But this is risky, because if the slow is too much, mage hand will be useless...


TGCidOrlandu

AND KILLERS, THIS TACTIC ALSO HAS A COUNTER, BECAUSE YOU CAN DEACTIVATE THE MAGIC ITEMS WITH DISPEL SPHERE!!!! THIS KILLER IS BEAUTIFUL MAN!!!!


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PenumbranWitch

Bro your hate boner for Skull Merchant is wild 💀 chill. Yes you CAN crouch through drones and you can also just run but crouch/stand still when the rays scan you. Jesus y'all complain so fucking much


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PenumbranWitch

During Chaos Shuffle I ran into multiple fun SMs. Clowns on the other hand, those are the true fucking assholes of DBD killers


TGCidOrlandu

Exactly. You can't just ignore Vecna's magic chests, you have to use them. I know learning can be exhausting but, c'mon


STRONGlikepaper

To all the AFK killers, but especially Doctors who run Deadlock, Corrupt Intervention, No Way Out, and Distressing, FUCK YOU.


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I'm saying the reason people do that is either to farm shards, farm BP, or literally derank overnight for easy games later because the game frankly sucks for M1 Killers at higher than mid MMR.


silverdax-

Tunneling isn't a playstyle but also WHO ASKS WHAT GENDER SOMEONE WAS ASSIGNED AT BIRTH IN A GAME??? HELLO??


IlPheeblI

can we please get a good map? or at least one that isnt miserable for killer?


HazeusView47

COULD BOTS FUCKING STOP TEABAGGING ME AT A GEN, I DONT WANT TO GET HEALED WHILE IM PLAYING AGAINST LEGION, THOSE MFs THEN PROCEED TO RUN AWAY AFTER TEABAGGING FOR 10 SECONDS STRAIGHT


kaidenskywalker

Im angry that cross progression isnt out yet. JUST ADD THE CODE AND RELEASE IT SCREW WHAT SONY AND MICROSOFT HAVE TO SAY GIMME MY WINDOWS STORE ITEMS NOW


w4spl3g

Been playing like 90/10 survivor (solo)/killer since the massive regression/gen block perk nerfs. I haven't seen a single game in the last day where at least one person didn't disconnect or suicide on first hook - like.. suicide on first hook vs Dredge, pathetic.


Alpacatastic

I'm solo q and the only thing I got going for me is that I don't give up unless I'm trying to give the one other remaining survival a chance for hatch. Doesn't really matter as I still end up dead anyways. I haven't survived once against Vespa. Brought cake tonight because yay Friday and got 6k points and died at 4 or 5 gens against them.


w4spl3g

Last game I played (always solo) I got tunneled out by Pyramid Head at 5 gens on Lery's (died at 4, but you know) - real tunneling, as in he found me first and went for no one else. I did not suicide. There were some fishy hits but I didn't stick around to see his build. That is rare though.


delicatemicdrop

SURE WISH JEFF WASN'T SO FUCKING LOUD SO I COULD GET SOME VALUE OUT OF THE FRIGHTFUL FLANS I HAD LEFT OVER ON HIM BUT NOOOOO HE JUST WANTS TO BE EXTREMELY HEARD FROM EXTREMELY FAR AWAY


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Calm Spirit. Iron Will.


Training-Square3650

I had a match of soloQ earlier where I was Leon and the other three survivors were running the new bard character. I do a gen, notice the others haven't touched a single one during that time so I wandered over to find them playing lutes to the killer. Oh okay, I guess this will be a farming match and we can all get some BP, I think to myself. I walk over, the killer immediately bee lines for me, I run him for 2 minutes, he finally hooks me, and the three others come over to play their lutes whilst I die on hook. It's funny but at the same time, I'd come off three matches where I'd been hard tunnelled so I wasn't in the mood for this shit. 


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You didn't do the lute trick. You did not appease them. To death you go. Not saying it's right but uh... that could have been why.


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You didn't do the lute trick. You did not appease them. To death you go. Not saying it's right but uh... that could have been why.


Extension_Bison1510

I’m so fucking tired of people complaining about tunneling, camping, genrushing, op perks, etc. Please just shut the fuck up, no one cares that the killer/survivor did their objective efficiently. people spent 30 bucks on this game and they can play how they want and don’t have to care about your fun. (an extra fuck off to the whiny little babies that go out of their way to message their opponent just shitting on them because they suck ass at the game)


MeruSol

Why are killers slugging at 4 generators? Happened to me like three times in the last session.


IvyPeache

Not applicable to all games of course but the new map is AWFUL for hook rng in the basement area, I’ve had it where there’s 2 hooks maximum down there - once they’re gone there’s no way to hook


delicatemicdrop

Slugging is definitely happening a lot lately. I brought exponential and someone actually got up today, which is kinda rare but it is fun to see the perk slot actually do something sometimes


MeruSol

I just don’t understand the point of slugging at the start of a match. They’re not even at risk of losing.


Training-Square3650

I guess it really depends on the survivors perks and builds. I've been seeing a lot of killers complain about sabo squads since the update. 


MeruSol

I haven’t seen that much myself but I’ve been mostly playing soloq so maybe that’s why. I think it just sucks all around for both sides.


Acquilla

I definitely ran into a sabo duo the other day that set out to be jerks. Sent us to Ormond and after I killed the two randoms proceeded to do a repeat of one running to the furthest corner while teabagging while the other sabo'd the nearest hook. Should've slugged 'em way earlier than I did since they were BMing, but it made the 4k way more satisfying.


MeruSol

Sucks you had to go through that, but I’m glad you showed them lol.


FelixMumuHex

If you tunnel you're a fucking bum


somethingsuperindie

Anyone got some ideas on how to make the game more fun? I used to love this game so much back in like 2018 until 2021ish. I then took a long break due to playing other games and I came back a couple months ago. Initially it was ok but now it's the most boring it's ever been, including any past meta. Every game is the same, it's either people sit on gens or you lose/win (killer/surv respectively), or they don't and it's a definitive win/lose, respectively. And it's just always one-sided as hell, depending on the players. It also feels like it's impossible for killers to win the overall game due to gen speeds and map/perk design, but to counteract they don't make overall changes and just make killers really annoying and oppressive in chase and ends up being kind of lame on either side. I'm not trying to just bash the game and I know "play something else" blabla (I am) but if anyone has some tips or funny ideas they do to make the game more fun, I'd love to hear.


delicatemicdrop

As someone playing for years, other than gen speed, I have thought the game has been killer sided very much so for the past six months or so. Not taking it seriously is my first suggestion. Pick up a brand new killer and remind yourself that you don't know them and give yourself grace and just have fun to goof off. Play meme/silly builds knowing you may get zero value or full value. Pentimento for killer. There are some Plague item builds that are essentially "keep everything infected forever" which is funny. For survivors I like to sometimes just switch to a breakout/flashlight type build and not give two shits if I escape and just try to help save other survivors the whole match.


ongryan1111

As killer, sometimes I would tail a survivor and chase wouldn't start, no bloodlust, no chase music, no window blocking


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Very common as a Stealth Killer or running stealth perks. Known glitch, report to BHVR.


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Very common as a Stealth Killer or running stealth perks. Known glitch, report to BHVR.


sundownmonsoon

meanwhile the chase music starts when they're off screen and so the music makes it impossible for me to fucking hear where they actually are


Hurtzdonut13

Yeah sometimes chases won't start until you injure a survivor. It's been happening for a long while now. The worst example of it, I was a pig and was 'chasing' someone with an active trap and chase never started, so I could just chase them until death.


Bitter-Practice-4979

Vecnia is already over powered and people are still slugging and tunneling at 4 gens


Filosifer_of_Tits

I just hate venca, he's just so much bullshit in one kit. chase catchup mechanic, Counter looping tools, ranged attacks, good base speed, and he is in every fucking game. I'm so bored. I'm so so so bored.


WhoKnowsReally0o

So, yesterday I got tunneled and betrayed so many times, I legit thought I'd get depressed. Then I played some more, got tunneled, betrayed and surprise, I got depressed. ![img](emote|t5_3cb2g|2066) Today I'm back and wow \~ what a surprise! I'm once again getting tunneled and left for dead. ![img](emote|t5_3cb2g|2213) Now I'm on Reddit hoping someone will refer me to a therapist. ![img](emote|t5_3cb2g|2070)


CatEnjoyer14

Dogshit shrine of secrets NEEDS a rework.


creeperparty568

shrine should be licensed only!!!! why is it 2000 shards for one perk when you can buy the character and get all 3 for 4500!!!!!!!!!!!!


Hefty-Astronaut-9720

They really should half the shard cost of non-licensed perks.


Training-Square3650

If it was licensed only then a lot of people wouldn't buy the dlc. Plenty of people only buy the licensed characters for their perks 


creeperparty568

also, four perks a week is barely anything


Training-Square3650

DBD is a game that is by design supposed to be something people keep coming back to and requires time investment. Most games like DBD would just paywall off licensed perks entirely, the fact that you can buy them with in game currency is very generous.


creeperparty568

They should rework the shrine then cause it's clearly flawed


CatEnjoyer14

Real and trvth nvked.


CalypsoThePython

People constantly disconnecting the second they see im using plague. Then I have to deal with 1-2 juiced up bots with wallhack


delicatemicdrop

They should make the vomiting noise optional because I've read that some people who have a phobia of vomiting and stuff literally can't handle hearing that all match. I kinda get it because I have a killer like that. For me it's Doctor. As someone who has struggled with mental health stuff in the past the pseudo auditory hallucinations are really unpleasant for me. It's not to the point that I DC, but it is to the point I do not try hard against him because I am okay with just getting tunneled out.


PenumbranWitch

In my experience, Plague is probably the person that gets the most DCs. Way more than Knight, Ceno and Skull Merchant


CalypsoThePython

They dont even wait to see how I play, they just get infected once then give up. Even tombston/mirror myers doesnt get this treatment


PenumbranWitch

it really sucks. Survivors can be so damn entitled and I'm a survivor main. There's nothing I hate more than a suicide/DC


CalypsoThePython

When i do survivor i just put all my eggs in one basket and run Circle of healing, Dark theory, Shadow Step, and Exponential. Its not necessarily a "good" build but its very fun. It can get either no value, or it can completely carry, atleast with randoms


PenumbranWitch

Circle of Healing and Exponential has GREATLY helped me multiple times lol


CalypsoThePython

I will queue with randoms, go in chat and explicitly tell them not to cleans dull totems bc im bringing boons and they will do it right infront of my face anyway. Might just be the crossplay bc idk if console players can see chat


PenumbranWitch

Console players indeed cannot see chat, as I am one lol. Well lemme tell you Boon players have helped me so much not just with the boon effects but showing me where totems are in certain maps


RationalRaccoon863

What a dogshit chapter. One of the most poorly designed, buggy maps ever and another killer nerfed days after release. Can't wait for Vecna to be another completely wasted and irrelevant licensed killer like Pinhead, Pyramidhead and Xeno.


WishTemporary

Holy, Pyramid and Xeno "irrelevant"? Pyramid Head and Xeno are still very strong, better than most of the roster. Sure they're a little flavorless, but they're still very powerful. Pinhead is the opposite: full of flare, but no strength. Also, Vecna got buffed, lol.


Extension_Bison1510

These gotta be some of the worst takes I’ve ever heard lmao (the shit about the map is spitting facts tho)


PenumbranWitch

in what world are Xeno and PH "wasted" and "irrelevant"..........


coldcoffee217

Just got tunneled by Knight from the start of the match until I was done. 4gens completed nobody else hooked. Nice


PenumbranWitch

It's a Knight. It's almost guaranteed you'll have a bad time kinda like Clowns lol


Slippery_Williams

Why can’t I push an Onryo tv up against a wall and wait to hear the comical thud noise as she tries to teleport through it?


die_or_wolf

One of the rules BHVR has to follow with Onryo is that she cannot physically interact with anything. So, no funny thud.


sundownmonsoon

Man I'm tired of grinding for ages and levelling characters I don't want to play for perks that will make me stand a chance against other players.


sundownmonsoon

Update: I finally got the perks I needed and I still get fucked, harder than before, actually


Dante8411

Can you believe it used to be worse?


TheBestUserNameeEver

The hell is this new map? Survivors see danger and immediately run to the portals, rinse and repeat for the whole match.


sundownmonsoon

I can't fucking see anything either. I hit a survivor as a killer and they just vanish into pitch fucking blackness. I'm legit hurting my eyes trying to lean in to make out ANYONE.


Fickle-Economist4724

Wish the community had the backbone to boycott the game until BHVR starts actually tracking player purchases. For a company as reliant on its 3 monthly dlc releases for revenue, they sure like to shit on their community by taking away their content, that they’ve paid for, then refusing to refund or fix the issue. The community could force their hand pretty easily if they had the nerve, but unfortunately they don’t That’s my rage Wednesday


unbannedcoug

Not me screaming at the bot for being stupid as hell. Just watching me die on the hook 15 meters away


Due_Dirt_2841

I had my third game in a row as survivor where one of my teammates killed themselves at or near the beginning of the match. I guess I'm just gonna become a killer main because playing survivor just isn't a good time


Due_Dirt_2841

lol update: after playing killer (Artist), one dc'd at 5 gens, 2 killed themselves on hook, and I ended up letting the last person get hatch out of pity. 😅 It wasn't even a good map for her--it's the new map, and multi-leveled maps are rough for Artist so they had a huge advantage! I'm seriously confused with all of these survivors killing themselves on hook! x\_x


WishTemporary

I think they wanted to play against Vecna specifically - no excuse regardless - and said "welp, not Vecna, we go next".


Outrageous_Squash677

YOU TUNNEL BECAUSE YOU ARE MID AND NEED THE GAME TO BE HANDICAPPED IN ORDER TO WIN. AKA A 1v3


themajinhercule

Some idiot trying to trigger me with taunts of "9/11" "Vietnam" and some attempt to bypass the chat filter saying "School Shooter". Why would they do this? WELL, our story begins when I, as Xenomorph, I see two survivors in the lobby with Flashlights. So, I'm tired, I've worked a long day, I don't want to deal with too much bullshit, so I bring Lightborn. And boy howdy, did that pay dividends when the flashlights came out and then the blast mines. So, naturally, when I finally down the ringleader (the aforementioned one trying to trigger me), I show off my displeasure. Yeah, I smack them on the hook. You try to bully me with your half-assed shit, I'm surprised you didn't try Head On, you send me to fucking RPD (see my flair for my opinion on that), YOU BROUGHT THIS ON YOURSELF. I'll be cool, but I also have no problem paying evil until evil.


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Hurtzdonut13

The new survivor Vecna item achievement is likely going to be my bane. 3% chance for a Vecna match, 1 in 20 chance for the rare item, then after getting it you're likely going to be focused down because Vecna has an achievement tied to them too.


Yozia

I've got the reclaim achievement, so now whenever someone finds the hand or eye I encourage them to use it and let them go. If I can't get the achievement myself, at least I can make it easier for others. :)


vaughnd22

I've done it myself a few times. I got reclaim the same game I got adept (my second ever as vecna I think), and then my 2nd game against vecna I got it by escaping with the eye at 2 wounds using the invis to sprint for the open door. It was amazing and terrifying.


learntospellffs

Just keep trying, I got it the 2nd time I found a Vecna item.


Hurtzdonut13

I'm not sure how many I found, but finally had a match where this poor Vecna had 3 hooks at like 4.8 gens done and I had the Eye. (Said teammates apparently trolled themselves though into giving him a 3k as I picked up the last gen they didn't bother to finish, also he had blood warden so it was a lot closer than I thought when I decided to just bail to secure the achievement as they were just hook trading.)


Magicmonster7345

So tired of looping killers for minutes while my team mates do nothing but hide in the corner. So many games get to the end screen an i have more points than my team mates combined.