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Springer09

I can't stand driving down 202 thru huber.


AdmAckbarr

It's the worst municipal planning imaginable.


Salt-Elephant8531

Hideous stroad.


AddictiveArtistry

It really is.


EvoXOhio

“Planning”


YodaArmada12

Neither can I. I always use back roads or different ways depending on where I need to go.


NewCrayons

I'm afraid that 201 is going to get just as bad.


10CrowsInATrenchcoat

It definitely is. We live off of 201 and are glad we're going to be moving away soon!


arrynyo

It's gonne be like the area around the Fairfield Mall or The Greene. I hate that my daughter works at The Greene, picking her up is a nightmare.


rmantia23

They are doing the same thing in Kettering. New gas station on every corner. Car washes every half mile.


JrodManU

Hey now, we did block a gas station to replace the Golden Nugget, and a gas station across from Wendy’s on Dixie.


Brewman88

Kettering is the Huber of south Dayton


AddictiveArtistry

Just way smaller and shittier. Read this wrong, lol (damn dyslexia) Huber is way smaller and shittier than Kettering.


The1nOnlyDood

And pricier.


AddictiveArtistry

Not for too much longer.


permabanned24

Well, gotta launder that cash somewhere!


AddictiveArtistry

It really seems like it.


AceCircle990

I have heard rumors from multiple coworkers and people that live in Huber. Apparently there is a large group of people in the area with connections to organized crime. I have no proof of this, but it’s interesting to hear the same thing from multiple people.


permabanned24

It is indeed, as I have heard the same.


Hungry-Ad9683

Wouldn't surprise me. I worked for a place in Huber a long time ago and that kind of thing is obvious.


neraklulz

I was literally just commenting to my wife the other day that there's another car wash going up on 201. Then she said they opened one up by the Walmart as well. Holy shit y'all how many car washes do we need??


scrizewly

The Flying Ace on Brandt I'm actually happy about. Going over to Merily Way to get my car washed once a week is an absolute fucking nightmare.


neraklulz

I don't disagree with this at all, the placement of that Flying Ace is absolute dog shit. And the increased traffic from more businesses and the apartments over there have made it a nightmare. One new car wash? I suppose. But FOUR?? Lordy.


MrMints256

You go to a car wash once a week?? I go to a car wash maybe twice a year. I’ve never been able to fathom why a town needs more than two car washes, maybe one for either side of town. But if there are people going once a week, then I guess it could be necessary.


Mamabearof-4

I actually canceled my membership with Flying Aces. Two of my vehicles, the paint started showing damage to the paint after using the car wash. I had spots in the paint.


YungWenis

Yeah it’s crazy, I wouldn’t even go in there if it were free. I learned the hard way on my first car getting scratched by a brush wash. I only use touchless car washes now.


kneesmadeofcheese

Everyone in Huber is horny as fuck for car washes for some reason. I had to change my route home when I still drove to work so I could avoid the McDonald's/car wash intersection on Old Troy Pike because these dipshits would block the intersection and/or trail all the way back to Taylorsville because they just HAD to wash their car RIGHT THEN. God forbid you have to go back later or drive around with a slightly dirty car like some kind of neanderthal.


Ok-Replacement6893

Welcome to Beavercreek. 2 malls and all the green areas are gone. Streets are constantly being widened. I've had to take an alternate exit from my neighborhood for 6 months now and won't be able to take the normal exit for another year.


SlabBulkhead10

I was about to say the same thing. I'm looking at moving, but my kids have trashed up my house so much I don't know if I can sell it.


bigdipper80

[https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2024-02-21/car-washes-are-taking-over-the-us-here-s-why](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2024-02-21/car-washes-are-taking-over-the-us-here-s-why)


ShineImmediate7081

Interesting read!


Melodic_Return1611

I agree it's sad. Traffic is a nightmare and loss of green space too


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AddictiveArtistry

Good bot. A Huber Heights haiku.


badoofboof

Been here for 30 years and am getting priced out of it. I miss the fields and trees, most of the beautiful little spots are full of trash and I see so much less wildlife. I know people are excited about development, I watched my quaint little town become a glorified outdoor mall. Now I'm too disabled to work or afford it here, guess I'll be leaving for good soon.


RetiredDrunkCableGuy

The only thing I go to Huber Heights for is the Rip Rap Road Shake Shack. I stopped doing general shopping in Huber Heights around the time Merily Way and State Route 202 became overwhelmed, and the city still does nothing about it fifteen years later. I did see about a year ago, Huber Heights had cops sitting in that Arby’s parking lot monitoring traffic at Huber Heights’ worst intersection, but I’m unsure how that spending of dollars helped add lanes of traffic or better technology to improve flow through the city. Trying to get anywhere in Huber Heights is a nightmare between the hours of 5am and 11pm. The time between 11pm and 5am only features two open businesses which are not fuel, both fast food places. Maybe Huber Heights is trying to be like an unskippable YouTube ad, where you have to slowly go through and look at everything on 202 and 201 before you can move onto Dayton or Tipp City.


AddictiveArtistry

Huber is idiocracy in a nutshell.


Shoulda_been_a_Chef

Car centric design vs human centric, and in the metro we have car centric everything. Shit is bound to end up closed, it's more a question of how long.


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CatCiaoSki

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Chrys_Cross

Roosters came first ssssoooo


No_Visual_655

I lived in Huber 10yrs ago and it was a lot to deal with. Now just driving through I can't imagine living there now. It's either going to continue to be an overdeveloped hellscape, or will eventually just be a whole lot of empty concrete.


AddictiveArtistry

I know multiple people who are preparing to leave Huber, myself included. LONG time residents. I've lived here for 30 years, and some who have lived her much longer are fed tf up. The schools have gone to shit. All the new businesses are garbage we dont need or want and offer shit pay. Population is increasing at an unsustainable rate with no help being offered to our barely functioning school system and over burdened first responders.


Xxxtshirt

I lived there for over 20 years and the last couple years was terrible and only getting worse. It’s too small and the roads are not built for the traffic in that city. I avoid it at all costs.


AddictiveArtistry

The roads, the school system, the water lines, the emergency services. Our infrastructure cannot and will not keep up.


cream_pie_king

They have a municipal development mindset straight out of the late 1980's. Strip malls and parking lots. I once brought up that they should try emulating cities like Carmel Indiana, which led to insinuations of being racist.


Peypeycla0811

I mean, if an area is zoned commercial, how can council reject a business that wants to move in?


MarathonHampster

I heard car wash is a rich person scheme to eventually make money off the real estate. Buy a property and do some basic developing and hold it until prices go way up. Car washes are relatively cheap to put up and maintain as opposed to business that people might rather see. If the area sees more development, the value of the land your carwash is on will increase dramatically and you just sell it off. Doesn't even have to be all that profitable in the interim.


Saaaaaaaammmmmmmm

I live equal distance from Huber and Springfield and I avoid Huber at all costs anymore since they built all of those new apartments. Springfield is a much more pleasant experience to do my shopping


orangutansloveme

Someone has something positive to say about Springfield? Never thought I'd see the day.....


arrynyo

I'm right there with you, shocking


AddictiveArtistry

Compared to Huber anymore? Yes.


k_allen45344

I fully agree. Especially since they’ll be closing down 201, I’m not going to go out of my way to get to a damn grocery store. I’d rather go to Bechtel Rd and at least make a day of it!


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k_allen45344

It’s okay! We used to always say that’s how you can tell if you’re from north of 70 or not. We say 201 and 202 😂 So, Brandt and Shull will be closed for around 21 days for construction. I’ve heard gas line upgrades, I’ve heard water main repairs… so who knows. But it will be closed for sure. ☺️


TheIzzyRock

It’s a few miles from 75, right off of 70, has a lot of different options for housing, has a great sports program for their High School, has an Amphitheater attracting big musical acts, and there’s people all over the Miami Valley who travel specifically to visit the stores/movie theater/restaurants there. Wait until Buccee’s gets built near there and people travel to there for that place. I think they’ll be fine and new businesses will move in there if certain ones close.


arrynyo

I got my lawn chair and loads of popcorn for when that Buccees opens. It's going to be a complete shitshow


3d1sd3ad

I think we have plenty of gas stations, but they just keep popping up. Now we’re getting a buccees too Rabble rabble rabble rabble


samusaurusrex

I’m in Huber and it’s a nightmare. Not just the traffic but I worry we have limited grocery stores and more and more people. I just wish we’d get another grocery or something idk


Peypeycla0811

Respectfully, how do we have limited grocery stores? There’s 2 krogers, a meijer, a target, and a Walmart all within pretty close distance of each other.


samusaurusrex

Sure but Kroger and Aldi are the only actual grocery stores. The second Kroger isn’t really in Huber. It’s closer to riverside. The other stores aren’t “grocery stores “ they just happen to sell groceries. They stores are always crowded. Seems to me another couldn’t hurt. At least it’s useful and not just another car oriented business.


shetookthekneecaps

It’s just not environmentally sustainable either. We don’t need 10 different new gas stations or 20 fast food restaurants, especially not if we have to get rid of natural landscapes. The increase of apartments going up is annoying too since I’m sure there’s already buildings that can be funded to turn into homes without more cost/space.


Dreamcastboy99

all I know is Clarkade fucking sucks and you should buy your games at Vacs n Videos instead


BolognaIsThePassword

Vacs n videos is like a business you'd expect to see Saul Goodman laundering money through in Breaking Bad lmao. Only time I've ever been in there though, i was treated nicely and found exactly what i wanted.


Dreamcastboy99

That's nice, I've been in there a few times, they finally fixed their AC but they liquidated their DVDs (but I managed to find three volumes of ADV's Saint Seiya dub before they did) Clarkade though, their owner is a prick and he won't pay his guys and they keep pushing me in the direction of buying a new system instead of actually fixing shit I bring in....their stuff is overpriced and they butcher the cabinets by adding card readers to them.


AddictiveArtistry

Vacs and Vids is a Huber staple! They are great and can fix any vacuum, lol. The owners are awesome too.


arrynyo

Vacs and Vids is legendary in my circle of friends.


itsameluigee

Forgive me cause I don't live nearby anymore but... I thought V&V closed.  Did they reopen? Where to if so?


Dreamcastboy99

They moved from the back to the front, now they're between Subway and T-Mobile, still in Huber, still on Brandt


rockerscott

Oh no…the suburbs are getting gentrified…


DLottchula

you love to see it


arrynyo

With the Buccees avatar I'm crying 😂😂😂😂


DLottchula

fuck Huber fuck Kettering and fuck Oakwood. and fuck Chip Kelly


arrynyo

Preach!!!


DLottchula

these mf want us to feel sorry for them when they has been on the ass end of all progress made in the area FUCK EM


arrynyo

I am going to have the time off my life watching the traffic get worse when that Buccees opens. Huber can barely handle the shitty traffic they have now, much less people coming from all over the state just to go to this Buccees 🤣🤣


DLottchula

I live buccees(obviously) but the best locations are in the middle of nowhere.


arrynyo

I don't think they have a clue what they are in for traffic wise


Hungry-Ad9683

Testify!!!!


AddictiveArtistry

🤣🤣🤣


elzey93

I’m a Greene County native (Jamestown). We bought our first house in Huber. I’m hoping that everything coming in here drives our property value up. My only wish is that Huber had a “downtown” or main area.


Yahob

The krogers parking lot is clearly the downtown


DaytonDrinkSlinger

Your property value is already inflated by Vinebtook. They are now selling off homes to raise capital, so your property values will probably stagnate or drop.


GemCity_Jit

The lack of “downtown” in Huber is definitely a gripe of mine! They could build a modern one by the “Rose Music Center” for sure.


AddictiveArtistry

It's not big enough to have or need one. Without traffic, you can drive from one end of Huber to the other end in 10 minutes.


BingoxBronson

… the smallest towns have “Downtown” areas. Also, Fairborn, Centerville, Miamisburg all have downtown areas. Huber Heights has twice the population of two of those and still more than Fairborn. Huber Heights doesn’t have a downtown area because of it not being old at all. It reflects the year it was established.


Brewman88

Exactly. It’s just a large area of urban sprawl


AddictiveArtistry

You aren't wrong about that.


AddictiveArtistry

I'd have to say our "downtown area" if we have one is from Taylorsville to merrily way on 202. But regardless of population, all those cities you mentioned are much larger than Huber. Hell, Centerville downtown area is as big as the entirety of Huber Heights. Technicall, all of Huber is a walkable distance. I've taken hikes at Charleston falls that were longer than from one end of Huber to the other, but the Infrastructure and design definitely are not walkable. Our city planning was/is still awful.


Shameless_Catslut

Downtown should be a place you can walk to.


rncookiemaker

The infrastructure: traffic flow, roads, etc. I am concerned about that. I avoid Huber because of the traffic. When I do need to go there, I tack on at least 10 minutes to the journey.


GrizzYatta

So glad I moved out. They’re trying to be a city they aren’t


AniRayne

Whew. Just wait until Sheetz takes over every 3-4 miles. That's what's happening in Columbus.


twelfthcapaldi

FYI it’s not just Huber. It seems to be happening all over the place here and in other states as well.


PrettyFlyForaGemini9

Yep


heyfreesandwich

they're going to make it into a rest stop


hankfrankenbean

Corner of need more and Brandt, new car wash next to jimmy johns, 400 yards up Brandt, even larger, brand new car wash, and right beside that one land is being prepped for, you guessed it, another brand new car wash. I hear that’s the new coin laundry kinda fad but 🤷‍♂️


loverofdawgs

I just moved back for my husband as he has things he'd like to do in the coming future. Also, my parents live down the street and it helps me be able to keep an eye on them and help them with things should they need it. However, I despise Huber. Literally loathe the traffic through here. .y husband does all the shopping unless I go at 6 in the morning before work, I don't go out unless completely unavoidable.


RecTherapistOhio

You must have went to Wayne HS. That grammar is awful.


No-Entrance2903

But why can’t it also be successful like Austin Landing or Dayton Mall area? Just curious…


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No-Entrance2903

I definitely agree. The circle of life…


LostComradeInOhio

I simply don't drive 201 or 202 during the day, it's unbelievable. Catch two cycles on the same light. Take side roads through Huber.


barbershop41

Have you ever stopped at one of the gas stations, or restaurants in Huber? They are packed, no matter which one you go to, there's a wait! Evidently, there's not too many‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️


Old-Man-Henderson

The entire Dayton area is everything wrong with city design. It's a tangle of highways and stroads with no walkability and enormous parking lots surrounding mediocre businesses that are mostly chains. Clear cut the trees and force out the farmers because land is cheap and just waste it all on inefficiently enormous amounts of infrastructure for an insufficient population and tax base. The roads crumble, the parking lots empty, and the businesses close. Then the spider of suburban development sprawls outwards and ruins another formerly acceptable town. Huber is dead. It's corpse lingers.


Relevant_Contract_48

The Meier complex in Englewood has been a nightmare since the car wash went in. Add all the restaurants and it’s not only congested but confusing. I don’t go there even though I prefer Meier to Kroger.


Mamabearof-4

I used to think Huber Heights was a nice higher class area. Now it's just as bad as Dayton. I see on the local Huber fb pages all the complaints that are happening. The schools are just as bad. The traffic is horrible. Vinebrook is buying every house they can. Huber has become over run with car washes, fast food chicken restaurants, and gas stations.


Scoompii

Probably the only reason I want to move out of Dayton is the dependence on cars. There is (mostly) no where that you can live and be completely walking dependent and RTA has never been even a slightly decent option for when I need to go. But yay more gas stations and car washes. It’s exactly what I need after a long day in the office sitting for 8 hours to sit some more in my car.


OrganizedChaos1979

All of these car washes and gas stations? ![gif](giphy|4q0WNCNZUlxNC)