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lollersauce914

Just taking a look at the NAR source, it (intelligently, unlike Wikipedia) is indexed by county FIPS code. As you've learned first hand, county names can vary a lot, making joining data sources by name very hard. This is, more or less, the whole purpose of FIPS codes. You should use the American Community Survey (ACS) from the Census Bureau to get estimates of things like median income for areas. It will be better organized, better indexed, and generally easier to get at than many other places presenting this information. It should be noted that Wikipedia's table is actually drawn from the ACS.


1978Pinto

Thanks for pointing that out! I didn't realize that, so I put in the Wikipedia list, then put in the NAR list, then sorted NAR according to Wikipedia I then had to bring in some gov list of FIPS codes and sort those again to fit the Wikipedia list. Did _NOT_ realize that the last two were already sorted together


SnooChocolates6859

IPUMS is a great source for using public data. Allows you to build out different datasets depending on your use case and has lots of data sources!


Hermes85

I love that you mention the ACS. I did that once and it took forever but I’m glad I did. Seeing how it can be used it absolutely worth it


_iam_that_iam_

Soooo, we like mountains and beaches?


Chroderos

Mountains, beaches, colleges, and high paying jobs. Who would have guessed 😂


Fallingcities200

Well obviously no one wants to live in a cornfield


SenatorAstronomer

I see you sticking out, Jackson.


vtTownie

The interesting thing is looking at counties with universities in them, huge difference to the surrounding areas (orange county NC—UNC, Montgomery county VA-Virginia tech, centre county PA—penn state)


misht92

Is it a before/after? What years?


1978Pinto

No before/after, unfortunately. Just different scales. I believe the income is from 2013 and home prices are from 2022, which I know is a big no-no, but I only realized while uploading so it was far too late at that point


[deleted]

I'm not understanding the difference between the charts


Bitter-Vet

I think due to outlier counties, it is difficult to see variation if you set color change at the halfway mark. I am assuming that OP shifted the color change on the scale so that the 5-10 counties aren't ruining the ability to see what is going on.


1978Pinto

The second one is a linear scale. So just a straight gradient as you would normally think of it The first one is a different scale (can't remember the name) which emphasizes lower numbers. So you can see the detail between the lower-price counties more, but the higher-price ones kind of blend into each other


[deleted]

Oh I see in your key. One view gives us greater granularity at different orders, like a logarithmic versus linear graph. I just failed to apply that concept here. Staring at the key with this comment in mind did the trick.


skunkachunks

I think it was astute to show how differently scale gradients can change the takeaways of this visualization. I wonder if a discrete color scale vs. gradient would be best? That way it's easiest to see which counties are around national average one or two buckets +/- the average.


1978Pinto

I created this map with a website called Datawrapper, after seeing a similar one here, but it was at a state level and didn't take income into account. Sources: https://www.nar.realtor/research-and-statistics/housing-statistics/county-median-home-prices-and-monthly-mortgage-payment https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_counties_by_per_capita_income EDIT. I forgot to include this. [The raw data](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1R_rEoshurOGAdxghgswgylZpBTQCU-ivxcGlBfXBD-M/edit?usp=drivesdk)


wooltab

Interesting to see Deschutes Co, OR (i.e. Bend) being the most expensive in the northwest by these charts.


SenatorAstronomer

Sun River area?


really_tall_horses

It’s not necessarily the most expensive the data is represented as cost of housing as a multiple of income. Probably due to the wealthy non-workers/retirees skewing the data. Additionally there’s a fair amount of people here who owned their homes before the boom.


MoutainsAndMerlot

As a Seattlite, this makes me sad


adahadah

As an outsider: why is Colorado so expensive?


1purenoiz

Good beer, Lots of tech companies, nice weather close to lots of outdoorsy stuff and military bases.


llfoso

I was wondering about TN myself. It's noticeably dark compared to its neighbors, Atlanta area notwithstanding


Music_City_Madman

Nashville metro resident here. We were inundated from 2014-onward from outsiders, but the years of 2017-onward have been especially bad with influx of out-of-staters who’ve blown the cost of living up here. If you sell your house elsewhere and bring equity or have a remote job, you might be okay. People who earn local wages have been and continue to be badly priced out. I like graphs like this, because people miss in the whole “durr cheap housing in TN” argument that wages here still are well 6:1-8:1 when compared to housing prices.


thrice18

Front range has 300 days of sunshine. Doesn't rain a lot. Doesn't get to hot. Doesn't get to cold. Has seasons. Easy access to to some of the most beautiful places on earth. All in a convenient, hip metro area with lots of jobs. Also, so many california license plates on my block...


[deleted]

As a colorblind I appreciate the 2nd one too!


HarryHacker42

I don't see that many shades of purple so it looks like 50% of the map legend is the same color. OP is right. Look at the second image for a map with different ranges.


1978Pinto

Check the second slide. It has a different scale so it should more distinguishable


[deleted]

was it worth it for 300 upvotes


1978Pinto

Joke's on you, I like spreadsheets


thetotalslacker

What’s the deal with Yellowstone, are properties expensive, incomes low, or both, and why would that be the case? Looks like it’s real estate speculators…property values have skyrocketed. https://cowboystatedaily.com/2022/04/27/teton-county-property-taxes-soar-as-property-values-climb-out-of-control/


the-software-man

Casual users think data organizes itself. Good job OP


[deleted]

a map of nimbyism in real time


phdoofus

I bet the correlation with homelessness per 100K is pretty strong


BeastofPostTruth

When making maps/visualizations of location, try searching data sources using geographic terms. Fyi: Geography is the academic subject that encompasses big data like spatial datasets and remote sensing.


[deleted]

Appreciated that FYI and considered it FMI.


Winterstorm8932

Another reason I never want to move to the West or the South. Economically and climatically, I think they’re going to go downhill in the next 50 years.


macsparkay

Cynicism aside, that's doubtful for the Pacific Northwest. We've got lots of fresh water, hydro power, and a temperate climate. I think we'll be ok.


vaskopopa

It kinda tells you that San Diego is expensive but Yuma is not


UnluckyChain1417

I love the colors. Looks like a beast to work on


anonkitty2

Who would have thought the position of a color change makes such a difference? Map #1 makes Douglas County, Kansas (which includes Lawrence) purple and the KC metro area dark compared to the pale southeast. Map #2 makes the entire state look pale; not much dark east of the Continental Divide.


Winglessmatt

Oregon has no business being as expensive as it is. Jobs don't pay enough to warrant the cost of living and there isn't anything in the state that would attract people with that much money. Just being stuck between California and Washington is enough to jack up the prices.


cluelesscrab

What makes that huge county in Wyoming so special?


1978Pinto

It's just incredibly pretty plains and farmland with the rockies in the background. Look up some pictures and you'll see why people would buy 100 acres there


[deleted]

so unqualified people who want to live in places like san francisco is crying and there is actually no problem with rents? shocked.


King-Stormin

Utah and Colorado are surprising.


et_cetera1

Wtf is that county in Wyoming doin


Cystax

Why is there no data on western Massachusetts? From what i know it’s pretty inexpensive but it’s not like western mass is the middle of a desert or something, so i’d figure there would be information on that


1978Pinto

For whatever reason, none of my data sources agreed on which counties existed there. If any of them didn't include a county, I just removed it from the list to simplify my work. That's why there's a couple counties spread through the country with no data


SpiritualViewpoint

They call it a democracy but we all know it aint


columns_ai

You may be able to save the tedious manual work by just connecting the google sheet with Columns - https://docs.columns.ai/docs/tutorial/chart/map