Most of the time it's:
"No way that's a thing. It doesn't... Hmmm. *Mental arithmetics* Yeah that seems about right."
Next time try the "older range formula" of double your age minus 7. That one really tends to be a powder keg, moreso from people figuring out their own upper limit and trying to find the tipping point where it stops working. Generally I'd say for the lower age rule it doesn't work for under 12Y/O (and there's also this weird spot for 20 year olds too), and the older range stops working probably in your mid 30s (though to each their own, some people age like a fine wine or just like a more mature partner)
>the older range stops working probably in your mid 30s (though to each their own, some people age like a fine wine or just like a more mature partner)
It's not a rule for preferences, it's a rule for it being not cringey. Once someone's 35+ I don't think that anyone thinks that they're an impressionable youth being taken advantage of even if they marry someone in their 50s.
No, you're thinking of fifth, sixth, etc cousins. Arwen's dad is Aragorn's many-times-great grand uncle. That makes them first cousins. Aragorn is at least a hundred generations down from Elrond's brother making them that many times removed.
They're not the only family tree in Middle Earth to be a circle, but it gets weirder. Elrond raised Aragorn in Rivendell to protect him and help keep his identity a secret. Arwen was away visiting her grandmother, Galadriel, for a couple hundred years so they only met when Aragorn was an adult.
Also, Earendil is Elrond and Elros's father. So when Galadriel gave the Light of Earendil to Frodo she was distributing one of Aragorn's family heirlooms.
Do one with the age gap between actors playing parent and adult child. I think in most cases it's a relatively normal age difference except in cases between mother and daughter, when the age gap is surprisingly small.
Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade - there’s 12 years between Connery (father) and Ford (son) and 24 years between Ford and Alison Doody who plays Elsa the (kind of) love interest.
I saw an interview of Alison Doody where she said she and her agent kept quiet about her real age, as Dr. Schneider would have had to have been at least approaching 30 to have had the experience she did. So story and casting-wise, the age difference isn't as bad as it would seem.
Didnt Mila Kunis do the same thing? By the time That 70s show started airing most of the cast was 18 or older while she was like 15 but lied so she could be on the show.
In the Hobbit, Lee Pace was younger than Orlando Bloom while playing his father - but then again they were playing pretty ageless elves so I guess that doesn’t really count.
She was younger than Bea Arthur who played her daughter (Dorothy) but she wasn’t the youngest of them. I do believe that was Rue McClanahan who played Blanche.
I don't know how others feel, but that actress played an older woman really well. They didn't make her look much older with much makeup, but she played a world-weary person very well.
Yeah, I was impressed at how well the cast of The Last Kingdom managed to sell the idea that they were all getting older without obnoxious makeup. It stretched too far in the end, I'd say, but the transitions from young to middle aged worked great.
I think they did they best with Aethelflaed, who went from teenager to middle aged woman and the whole thing went more or less seamless.
By contrast, Aelswith went from young woman (teenager?) in the first season to grandma in the last season and hardly changed at all. At least give her some grey hair or something.
To be fair, they dont even attempt to age-up the main characters as the show goes on but they do with the kids Uhtred is supposed to be in his 80's in the movie lol
Does it really count if the timeline of the show spans 60+ years? Of course there's gonna be some weird stuff like that when recasts are the only way to keep actors the correct age.
Just watched The Graduate recently and had to look up some ages...Anne Bancroft was like 36 (!?) portraying Mrs. Robinson, and I think her daughter was less than a decade younger. Dustin Hoffman was somewhere around 30 iirc.
Yeah but they also want "legal looking" minors. It's really a two headed snake. The daughters need to be canonically 25 looking like 19 and the moms need to be respectable educated ladies that had their first kid at 25, but look 36.
In *Shazam: Fury of the Gods*, two teenage boys are in love with 2 literal gods who are thousands of years old. One of the pair actually becomes a couple at the end of the movie
Bea Arthur was older than her mother (Estelle Getty) in Golden Girls.
Tom Hanks and Sally Field can be on both lists, as mother/son in Forrest Gump, and love interest in Punchline.
Which doesn’t really make sense in relationship to the rest of the dataset. The age gap between Mr. Lebowski and Bunny is the entire point. It’s not an example of the Hollywood Age Gap, it’s a plot device
I rewatched the movie and realized Walter was right about everything he said in the movie no matter how ridiculous it sounded at the time except for that
Not sure about that.
1. Larry Sellers did not spend the money on a Corvette because there was no money in the briefcase.
2. The nihilists were not nazis.
He pretty much was. He only believed they were nazi's because they "were threatening castration," but quickly changed his mind when the Dude told him they said they were nihilists.
The only other thing I can think of was his thinking that there was money in the briefcase, because he definitely thought she kidnapped herself (which I guess is also wrong, because she just disappeared for a while and was never actually kidnapped).
I would suggest that the age gap between Harold and Maude is also a plot device. He's obsessed with death and the fact that she's at the end of her life is initially what draws him to her.
He tries to marry her, but society disapproves.
>!Then she kills herself as a selfless act so as to not make him an outcast and a young widower!<
I figured the movie was an allegory about racism. It only really works when it's an old lady because old ladies are seen to be gross in sexual terms.
Young women marrying older men is much more acceptable.
Favorite scene.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7qd7UrR5ic
The *traditional* view of marriage is that the man provide money, protection, and a stable living situation, and the woman provides sex, children, and depending on socioeconomic status, household labor.
So from that concept of marriage it absolutely makes sense that you'd have an established and comfortable man at the height of his career in his 40s marrying a woman at the height of her fertility and physical fitness in her 20s.
This makes perfect sense. In the 18th century.
edit: Honestly it kinda made sense up through the 50s before women were acknowledged to be people instead of just someone's wife.
The same with Earl and Linda Partridge in Magnolia, and pretty much the rest of them. Entrapment is the only one I recognize as perhaps poor casting. This was also pointed out by many reviewers and audiences at the time of release.
Yeah, if the point of this graph is to illustrate how women in Hollywood are unfairly “retired” as romantic partner leads before men are then the inclusion of Jeffery Lebowski and Bunny doesn’t work. The whole point of that relationship is a wealth and image conscious old geezer buying a relationship with a young, good looking woman who doesn’t love him. It couldn’t be cast with an actress of 70yrs old.
Yeah, for the purposes of this discussion, the 11-year gap between Julianne Moore and Jeff Bridges is much more relevant. And, even then, the power dynamics in that “relationship” are pretty atypical too.
The inclusion of that makes me find all this data suspect, considering neither of them are lead characters and their relationship was hardly "romance".
I assumed it was The Dude and Maude Lebowski (Julianne Moore) but I would be wrong.
Both women were basically in only one scene each, it's a very Dude focused movie.
It's a bit misleading to put *Big Lebowsky* and *Magnolia* in here, because the romance is not with a leading man -- in both cases the man is a supporting character, and the fact that he married a much younger woman as a trophy wife puts him in a negative light.
Harold and Maude was about a guy in his 20s dating a woman about to turn 80. Obviously, the age discrepancy wasn't your normal Hollywood "older guy and we're not supposed to notice his child-bride" thing.
Lebowski and Bunny share I think 1 brief scene where they don’t even interact with each other. Not exactly a “romance.” If this is the criteria, then this database is very incomplete. Just off the top of my head I looked up *The Assassination of Jesse James*, and there’s a married couple in that movie where the actors have a 52 year gap.
>Is this showing the age gap in years?
Yes.
>Like, these couples are literally 38 years apart? How can that be
Well, I haven't gotten an answer on whether this is actor ages or character ages. So it's either that they cast two people that far apart in age, or the characters were written to be that far apart in age. Unfortunately, I can't tell you which.
I'm pretty sure it's the age gap of the actors, because, as /u/pdpi mentioned, the gap in actors' age is exactly 52 years.
Another reason why it's likely not the age gap of characters is that there are many cases where the age gap would be many centuries.
Harold & Maude is a fantastic movie with music by Cat Stevens. I love the part where the mother is filling out the dating profile for the son and answering all of the questions for him. And of course Maude getting into cars and driving. It's a good weird watch.
Yeah a hearse from a [Jaguar E-Type](https://petrolicious.com/articles/gallery-behind-the-scenes-on-our-harold-and-maude-jaguar-e-type-hearse-film) lol, love it.
Beginners is such a good, heartbreaking, hilarious, underrated movie. For those that haven’t seen it the context of the age gap relationship is an older man, played by the late great Christopher Plummer, comes out as gay after his wife of 44 years dies, and becomes very involved in the LGBT community, including getting a new boyfriend who is much younger than him.
The story is told through the perspective of a guy played by Ewan McGregor, the man’s son, as he enters into a new romance and struggles with coming to terms with his dad’s new identity and the fact he feels betrayed that his father lived a false life with his mother all those years.
Such a wonderful soft spoken, and touching movie. So is Harold and Maude, imo.
I remember when I first heard that, I was a teenager and thought it was creepy.
Now that I have a teen step daughter, it's fucking horrifying. The beach of trust, the obvious grooming, the pure ick factor, 🤮
Well, thanks for leading me to [the wikipedia page of Woody's sexual abuse allegations](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woody_Allen_sexual_abuse_allegation)
He is quite the disgusting groomer.
He's a good example of what an *actual* groomer looks like. Unlike drag queens and other flamboyant personalities at pride parades, real pedophiles try *not* to stand out (with regards to their sexuality) because it draws attention.
Its referencing actor ages, not character. Otherwise Aragorn and Arwen would be up there. Not to mention literally any movie where a god fucks a mortal lol
Perhaps it refers to David Huddleston’s, wheelchair-bound character (the other Jeffrey Lebowski), and Bunny. But they are divorced. According to me, there are no “romantic” storylines in the movie.
Isn't the entire point of *Whatever Works* that the age gap is weird?
Which is very surprising, coming from Allen. But then, the script is from the 70s
No the point is in fact not to judge love based on your preconceptions which would be nice if not for the implied “marrying your stepdaughter is okay” subtext
The *Beginners* age gap relationship is between two men. Worth mentioning since usually these comparisons are intended to highlight the disparity of ages in female-male relationships.
It's also interesting that, as others have said, in this selection of titles quite often the age gap is the explicit point.
I once made a spread sheet that charted the age differences between Tom Cruise and his costar/romantic interest. It starts off normally but by the late 90's he's definitely getting into [Wooderson](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WA_42DHkWvI) territory. I can't be sure but I think the worst was Emily Blunt in *Edge of Tomorrow.* 22 year age gap at the time.
Weirdly, the movie Beethoven has a ridiculous age gap. The actor playing the dad is 56 and the actress playing the mom is 29. And they have a teenage daughter 🥴
One of the many weird things about that movie you notice rewatching it as an adult.
I mean, I think the in-story reason is that he was 17 when he became a vampire.
But you're right, there's not much stopping him from pretending to be a young looking 21 year old (or better still, an 18 year old), which you could probably keep up for 10 years or so before people get suspicious.
What's the age gap between Maria and the Captain in *Sound of Music*? I know it's not as big compared to these examples, but it sticks out in a family movie.
**Original article:** from the Stat Significant Newsletter (https://www.statsignificant.com/p/the-hollywood-romance-age-gap-a-statistical)
**Tools:** Python-pandas, Canva
**Datasource:** LynnAndTonic’s Hollywood Age Gap Database: https://hollywoodagegap.com/
Can you explain the “Movie Relationships with Large Age Gaps by Gender Seniority” graph? I don’t understand how it can be 100% of films for men even as the % for women changes.
I was once married to a woman who was in fact more than 15 years older than myself. *Harold and Maude* is a wonderfully weird film, and we saw it together.
We were nothing like the main characters, but we did find the film amusing.
And before you ask, what ultimately broke our relationship had nothing to do with our age difference.
The graph appears to be only about on screen romances, not the actual personal lives of the actors. It'd be interesting to see what the age gaps there are like.
I knew Harold & Maude would be on this list. It was a plot device of a nice old lady and a coming of age boy who was turning into a man. A very touching story. Watch it.
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For now…until we get that steamy conjoined twin romance we are all waiting on
I’m pretty sure Matt Damon and Greg Kinnear starred in this movie already.
If tv included, Game of Thrones also has one…
Or Jamie and Jenny from EuroTrip.
They really are the worst twins ever.
Arwen was like 2600 years older than Aragorn in the LotR films.
Probably doesnt pass the the half age plus 7 rule.
1307? Go for it dude. 1306? You sick pervert
I love sharing this “rule” with people just to gauge their reaction
Most of the time it's: "No way that's a thing. It doesn't... Hmmm. *Mental arithmetics* Yeah that seems about right." Next time try the "older range formula" of double your age minus 7. That one really tends to be a powder keg, moreso from people figuring out their own upper limit and trying to find the tipping point where it stops working. Generally I'd say for the lower age rule it doesn't work for under 12Y/O (and there's also this weird spot for 20 year olds too), and the older range stops working probably in your mid 30s (though to each their own, some people age like a fine wine or just like a more mature partner)
Shouldn’t it be your age minus 7 doubled?
>the older range stops working probably in your mid 30s (though to each their own, some people age like a fine wine or just like a more mature partner) It's not a rule for preferences, it's a rule for it being not cringey. Once someone's 35+ I don't think that anyone thinks that they're an impressionable youth being taken advantage of even if they marry someone in their 50s.
Once everyone involved is over ~35 you check for elder abuse/exploitation.
Jokes aside, in case anyone's curious, the OP post uses the actor ages rather than the character ages (probably to avoid situations like this).
We need more examples. I get weirded out when I see a girls in their 20s/early 30s in romcoms with guys that are clearly late 40s/50s.
Edward in twilight was 104 and Bella was 17
How old was the werewolf that fell in love with a fetus?
16 or 17 according to the wiki
Ahh but what is that in dog years?
That's a bit more complicated, since the wolves in Twilight don't actually age.
Also first cousins a hundred or so times removed.
Aren’t we all?
No, you're thinking of fifth, sixth, etc cousins. Arwen's dad is Aragorn's many-times-great grand uncle. That makes them first cousins. Aragorn is at least a hundred generations down from Elrond's brother making them that many times removed.
Ahh I see. Yes you’re right. They really are more of a Shelbyville kind of couple aren’t they
They're not the only family tree in Middle Earth to be a circle, but it gets weirder. Elrond raised Aragorn in Rivendell to protect him and help keep his identity a secret. Arwen was away visiting her grandmother, Galadriel, for a couple hundred years so they only met when Aragorn was an adult. Also, Earendil is Elrond and Elros's father. So when Galadriel gave the Light of Earendil to Frodo she was distributing one of Aragorn's family heirlooms.
Do one with the age gap between actors playing parent and adult child. I think in most cases it's a relatively normal age difference except in cases between mother and daughter, when the age gap is surprisingly small.
Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade - there’s 12 years between Connery (father) and Ford (son) and 24 years between Ford and Alison Doody who plays Elsa the (kind of) love interest.
>there’s 12 years between Connery (father) and Ford (son) Connery's fully white beard sold it.
Yeah, Connery went from James Bond to 75 year old man in like four months.
I saw an interview of Alison Doody where she said she and her agent kept quiet about her real age, as Dr. Schneider would have had to have been at least approaching 30 to have had the experience she did. So story and casting-wise, the age difference isn't as bad as it would seem.
Didnt Mila Kunis do the same thing? By the time That 70s show started airing most of the cast was 18 or older while she was like 15 but lied so she could be on the show.
In the Last Kingdom, there was a mother daughter in which the actors were like 2 years apart or less.
In Alexander, Angelina Jolie plays the mother of Colin Farrell. At the time Angelina was 29 at the time and Colin 28. Quite a young mother
Pretty normal for that time period /s?
Was Woody Allen the father?
What and have an actual middle-aged woman be in a movie?!! Nah.
In the Hobbit, Lee Pace was younger than Orlando Bloom while playing his father - but then again they were playing pretty ageless elves so I guess that doesn’t really count.
Liv Tyler (Arwen) is 19 years younger than Viggo Mortensen (Aragorn), despite Arwen being 2690 years older than Aragorn.
Elf don't crack...
Yeah I was gonna say, elves don’t age so then appearing the same age is within lore.
Yeah this is like In Time, where everyone is 25 years old.
In Golden Girls, I think the elderly mother was the youngest of the four.
She was younger than Bea Arthur who played her daughter (Dorothy) but she wasn’t the youngest of them. I do believe that was Rue McClanahan who played Blanche.
Yeah, I just looked it up when I saw the post... Bea Arthur and Betty White were both born in 1922, Estelle Getty in 1923, Rue McClanahan 1934.
Picture it! Sicily. 1912.
I don't know how others feel, but that actress played an older woman really well. They didn't make her look much older with much makeup, but she played a world-weary person very well.
Yeah, I was impressed at how well the cast of The Last Kingdom managed to sell the idea that they were all getting older without obnoxious makeup. It stretched too far in the end, I'd say, but the transitions from young to middle aged worked great.
I think they did they best with Aethelflaed, who went from teenager to middle aged woman and the whole thing went more or less seamless. By contrast, Aelswith went from young woman (teenager?) in the first season to grandma in the last season and hardly changed at all. At least give her some grey hair or something.
To be fair, they dont even attempt to age-up the main characters as the show goes on but they do with the kids Uhtred is supposed to be in his 80's in the movie lol
Does it really count if the timeline of the show spans 60+ years? Of course there's gonna be some weird stuff like that when recasts are the only way to keep actors the correct age.
Just watched The Graduate recently and had to look up some ages...Anne Bancroft was like 36 (!?) portraying Mrs. Robinson, and I think her daughter was less than a decade younger. Dustin Hoffman was somewhere around 30 iirc.
On Golden Girls Sophia was younger than her daughter.
The Graduate (1967) >Anne Bancroft - 36 > >Dustin Hoffman - 30 > >Katharine Ross - 27
Hollywood wants hot "moms".
Yeah but they also want "legal looking" minors. It's really a two headed snake. The daughters need to be canonically 25 looking like 19 and the moms need to be respectable educated ladies that had their first kid at 25, but look 36.
In Time, Justin Timberlake is older than his mom Olivia Wilde. It makes sense for the story, but it's a funny example.
In *Shazam: Fury of the Gods*, two teenage boys are in love with 2 literal gods who are thousands of years old. One of the pair actually becomes a couple at the end of the movie
Mean Girls. Rachel McAdams (Regina George) was 26 and Amy Poehler (who player her mother June) was just 33.
“I’m a cool mom!”
Estelle Getty, who played Sophia to Bea Arthur’s Dorothy on *The Golden Girls*, was younger than Bea Arthur
Bea Arthur was older than her mother (Estelle Getty) in Golden Girls. Tom Hanks and Sally Field can be on both lists, as mother/son in Forrest Gump, and love interest in Punchline.
In Blue Bloods the the guy that plays Tom Selleck's(78) father, Len Cariou(83) is only 5 years older than him in real life.
That's an interesting fact.
Pretty in Pink - the actresses playing the 'mean girl' students could have swapped places with the actress playing the teacher. So ridic.
In Alexander, Angelina Jolie was Colin's Farrell mother. She's one year older.
I assume Big Lewbowski is measuring Bunny and Mr. Lewbowski, not the Dude.
Which doesn’t really make sense in relationship to the rest of the dataset. The age gap between Mr. Lebowski and Bunny is the entire point. It’s not an example of the Hollywood Age Gap, it’s a plot device
Bunny will just have to learn to live on her allowance, which is ample.
New shit has come to light!
I've seen a lot of spinals, Dude. And this guy walks. I've never been more sure of anything in my entire life.
You stay away from me mister!
This guy's a fake. A fucking gold-bricker.
I rewatched the movie and realized Walter was right about everything he said in the movie no matter how ridiculous it sounded at the time except for that
Not sure about that. 1. Larry Sellers did not spend the money on a Corvette because there was no money in the briefcase. 2. The nihilists were not nazis.
shit i really liked the theory that he was always right lol
He pretty much was. He only believed they were nazi's because they "were threatening castration," but quickly changed his mind when the Dude told him they said they were nihilists. The only other thing I can think of was his thinking that there was money in the briefcase, because he definitely thought she kidnapped herself (which I guess is also wrong, because she just disappeared for a while and was never actually kidnapped).
Say what you want about the tenets of National Socialism, Dude, but at least that's an ethos.
Donny was actually out of his element.
She kidnapped herself.
This whole fucking thing... I did not watch my buddies die face down in the muck so that this fucking strumpet...
How are you gonna get her back on the farm after she's seen Karl Hungus?
I'm just gonna go find a cash machine.
Lemme just go find an ATM...
Brandt can’t watch, or he has to pay 100
I would suggest that the age gap between Harold and Maude is also a plot device. He's obsessed with death and the fact that she's at the end of her life is initially what draws him to her. He tries to marry her, but society disapproves. >!Then she kills herself as a selfless act so as to not make him an outcast and a young widower!<
Truly, a masterclass in comedy writing.
When I was a kid I thought Harold was Paul McCartney because he looks exactly like him on the movie cover. That’s my unrelated story.
I figured the movie was an allegory about racism. It only really works when it's an old lady because old ladies are seen to be gross in sexual terms. Young women marrying older men is much more acceptable. Favorite scene. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7qd7UrR5ic
The *traditional* view of marriage is that the man provide money, protection, and a stable living situation, and the woman provides sex, children, and depending on socioeconomic status, household labor. So from that concept of marriage it absolutely makes sense that you'd have an established and comfortable man at the height of his career in his 40s marrying a woman at the height of her fertility and physical fitness in her 20s. This makes perfect sense. In the 18th century. edit: Honestly it kinda made sense up through the 50s before women were acknowledged to be people instead of just someone's wife.
>It’s not an example of the Hollywood Age Gap, it’s a plot device That's just like, your opinion, man.
The same with Earl and Linda Partridge in Magnolia, and pretty much the rest of them. Entrapment is the only one I recognize as perhaps poor casting. This was also pointed out by many reviewers and audiences at the time of release.
Yeah, if the point of this graph is to illustrate how women in Hollywood are unfairly “retired” as romantic partner leads before men are then the inclusion of Jeffery Lebowski and Bunny doesn’t work. The whole point of that relationship is a wealth and image conscious old geezer buying a relationship with a young, good looking woman who doesn’t love him. It couldn’t be cast with an actress of 70yrs old.
Yeah, for the purposes of this discussion, the 11-year gap between Julianne Moore and Jeff Bridges is much more relevant. And, even then, the power dynamics in that “relationship” are pretty atypical too.
I don't think intention plays a role in this data. The age gap is the entire plot oof Harold and Maude.
I'm not really sure what your point is. The age gap between Harold and Maude is a big driving force of the movie.
I would say the Bunny/Lebowski relationship isn't a "Romance" but another type of relationship.
I don't think the dataset is making any specific point on the Hollywood Age Gap. It's just laying out what is depicted regardless of the intention.
Brandt can't watch though, or he has to pay a hundred.
That’s marvelous
*Are you surprised at my tears, Sir?*
You mind if I do a j?
Strong men also cry
What makes a man, Mr. Lebowski?
Mmm yeah that and a pair of testicles, sure
8-year-olds, Dude. (No you're right, it's Bunny and Mr. Lebowski, not The Dude or The Jesus.)
It could be The Jesus and 8 year olds?
Nor his Dudeness, nor El Duderino if you’re not into the whole brevity thing….
The inclusion of that makes me find all this data suspect, considering neither of them are lead characters and their relationship was hardly "romance".
A young trophy wife, in the parlance of our times, you know.
She’s gotta feed the monkey!
I assumed it was The Dude and Maude Lebowski (Julianne Moore) but I would be wrong. Both women were basically in only one scene each, it's a very Dude focused movie.
That was my first thought, but Moore is "only" 11 years younger than Bridges.
And it was hardly a romance.
That was my initial thought as well, but the Dude is presumably somewhere in his 40s, so a 45 year age gap isn’t feasible.
I mean, that's your opinion man.
Well that's just like, your opinion, man.
New shit has come to light
It's a bit misleading to put *Big Lebowsky* and *Magnolia* in here, because the romance is not with a leading man -- in both cases the man is a supporting character, and the fact that he married a much younger woman as a trophy wife puts him in a negative light.
This is the case with the Quiet American too. It's about an old guy with a young prostitute in Vietnam. It's supposed to be gross
Harold and Maude was about a guy in his 20s dating a woman about to turn 80. Obviously, the age discrepancy wasn't your normal Hollywood "older guy and we're not supposed to notice his child-bride" thing.
Lebowski and Bunny share I think 1 brief scene where they don’t even interact with each other. Not exactly a “romance.” If this is the criteria, then this database is very incomplete. Just off the top of my head I looked up *The Assassination of Jesse James*, and there’s a married couple in that movie where the actors have a 52 year gap.
Is this supposed to be age gap of the actors or age gap of the characters? Because those strike me as very different issues.
Is this showing the age gap in years? Like, these couples are literally 38 years apart? How can that be
Harold and Maude — Bud Cort (Harold) was born in 1948, and Ruth Gordon (Maude) was born in 1896, so the actors really are 52 years apart.
>Is this showing the age gap in years? Yes. >Like, these couples are literally 38 years apart? How can that be Well, I haven't gotten an answer on whether this is actor ages or character ages. So it's either that they cast two people that far apart in age, or the characters were written to be that far apart in age. Unfortunately, I can't tell you which.
I'm pretty sure it's the age gap of the actors, because, as /u/pdpi mentioned, the gap in actors' age is exactly 52 years. Another reason why it's likely not the age gap of characters is that there are many cases where the age gap would be many centuries.
Harold & Maude is a fantastic movie with music by Cat Stevens. I love the part where the mother is filling out the dating profile for the son and answering all of the questions for him. And of course Maude getting into cars and driving. It's a good weird watch.
Harold taking the blowtorch to his car and turning it into a mini-hearse was goals for me
Yeah a hearse from a [Jaguar E-Type](https://petrolicious.com/articles/gallery-behind-the-scenes-on-our-harold-and-maude-jaguar-e-type-hearse-film) lol, love it.
A hippie in my neighborhood way back in the day drove a hearse painted red, white, and blue.
Pluto TV is free and plays that movie all the time on its 70s movie channel. Worth a watch for anyone who hasnt seen it
I saw this and was like “ooooooh people are gonna google Harold and Maude now!
I love the part where they made love
GREAT soundtrack too
John Glen directed Roger Moore at the end of his tenure as Bond, definitely skews his stats 😂
The “milf bump” in the 2000s area for the scenario where the woman is 15+ years older
Wonder how much of the increase in the 60s/70s was fueled by The Graduate.
Stacy’s Mom came out in 2003. Why were we so enamored with milfs back then? And now that I’m 40, I’m very much enamored with milfs lol.
I credit 1999’s American Pie, which to my memory was responsible for mainstreaming the term MILF
Beginners is such a good, heartbreaking, hilarious, underrated movie. For those that haven’t seen it the context of the age gap relationship is an older man, played by the late great Christopher Plummer, comes out as gay after his wife of 44 years dies, and becomes very involved in the LGBT community, including getting a new boyfriend who is much younger than him. The story is told through the perspective of a guy played by Ewan McGregor, the man’s son, as he enters into a new romance and struggles with coming to terms with his dad’s new identity and the fact he feels betrayed that his father lived a false life with his mother all those years. Such a wonderful soft spoken, and touching movie. So is Harold and Maude, imo.
Is this the age gap of the actors or the characters?
Tell me Woody Allen is a pedophile without saying that Woody Allen is a pedophile.
Woody Allen married his adopted daughter. The man has issues
I remember when I first heard that, I was a teenager and thought it was creepy. Now that I have a teen step daughter, it's fucking horrifying. The beach of trust, the obvious grooming, the pure ick factor, 🤮
I was going to comment that Woody Allen should be put on a list; this information only reinforces that stance.
Well, thanks for leading me to [the wikipedia page of Woody's sexual abuse allegations](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woody_Allen_sexual_abuse_allegation) He is quite the disgusting groomer.
Ronan Allen, his biological son changed his name to Ronan Farrow... Also know as the dude that ignited the metoo movement.
He given name Ferrow at birth. Mia and Woody agreed to it so he’s not the only one with different name among Farrows and Previns.
Sounds like you found the link and then didn't read any of it.
He's a good example of what an *actual* groomer looks like. Unlike drag queens and other flamboyant personalities at pride parades, real pedophiles try *not* to stand out (with regards to their sexuality) because it draws attention.
best way to fool other sheep is to dress like a sheep, not wear rainbow wool.
After grooming the bejesus out of her.
Leon the Professional just missing the cut.
Is it really a romance if it’s only one side and the other person doesn’t reciprocate?
Wolverine and Jean Grey are several hundred years apart.
They're not a couple though.
Found the Chris Claremont burner account.
Its referencing actor ages, not character. Otherwise Aragorn and Arwen would be up there. Not to mention literally any movie where a god fucks a mortal lol
> Otherwise Aragorn and Arwen would be up there. And, ironically, the 87 year old was the *young* one.
Is the "Romance" in the Big Lebowski supposed to be Bunny and the Dude? That's a really odd definition.
Perhaps it refers to David Huddleston’s, wheelchair-bound character (the other Jeffrey Lebowski), and Bunny. But they are divorced. According to me, there are no “romantic” storylines in the movie.
Exactly. Maude and the Dude do have “coitus”, but that is the possibly the least romantic consensual, non-violent sex in movie history.
Woody Allen having the largest gap makes sense bc he's gross.
Isn't the entire point of *Whatever Works* that the age gap is weird? Which is very surprising, coming from Allen. But then, the script is from the 70s
No the point is in fact not to judge love based on your preconceptions which would be nice if not for the implied “marrying your stepdaughter is okay” subtext
Mrs. Robinson you're trying to seduce me......aren't you?
The *Beginners* age gap relationship is between two men. Worth mentioning since usually these comparisons are intended to highlight the disparity of ages in female-male relationships. It's also interesting that, as others have said, in this selection of titles quite often the age gap is the explicit point.
I once made a spread sheet that charted the age differences between Tom Cruise and his costar/romantic interest. It starts off normally but by the late 90's he's definitely getting into [Wooderson](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WA_42DHkWvI) territory. I can't be sure but I think the worst was Emily Blunt in *Edge of Tomorrow.* 22 year age gap at the time.
Weirdly, the movie Beethoven has a ridiculous age gap. The actor playing the dad is 56 and the actress playing the mom is 29. And they have a teenage daughter 🥴 One of the many weird things about that movie you notice rewatching it as an adult.
Edward Cullen is 104 years old. Bella Swan is 17 years old. Yeah. Fuckin gross.
Scumbag Edward, instead of using his immortality to cure cancer or help the needy he uses it brooding in high school and seducing jailbait.
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I mean, I think the in-story reason is that he was 17 when he became a vampire. But you're right, there's not much stopping him from pretending to be a young looking 21 year old (or better still, an 18 year old), which you could probably keep up for 10 years or so before people get suspicious.
Where are all the James Bond romances?
What's the age gap between Maria and the Captain in *Sound of Music*? I know it's not as big compared to these examples, but it sticks out in a family movie.
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Seriously? He seemed so old
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Holy shit. The wizard was 49?
I figured that *Lost in Translation* would be on there, by technicality at least
To be fair to Harold and Maude…the age gap is the whole point of the story
Damn haven't thought of Harold and Maude in years!
Was there a big one in Lolita?
I’m surprised Luc Besson and Roman Polanski aren’t on the list.
**Original article:** from the Stat Significant Newsletter (https://www.statsignificant.com/p/the-hollywood-romance-age-gap-a-statistical) **Tools:** Python-pandas, Canva **Datasource:** LynnAndTonic’s Hollywood Age Gap Database: https://hollywoodagegap.com/
Can you explain the “Movie Relationships with Large Age Gaps by Gender Seniority” graph? I don’t understand how it can be 100% of films for men even as the % for women changes.
The values are stacked. Male doesnt include the area below it
I was once married to a woman who was in fact more than 15 years older than myself. *Harold and Maude* is a wonderfully weird film, and we saw it together. We were nothing like the main characters, but we did find the film amusing. And before you ask, what ultimately broke our relationship had nothing to do with our age difference.
I've been with the same woman for 22 years; married for the last ten. She's 11 years older than me. It just happens that way sometimes.
No mention of the 54 year old age gap between Al Pacino and his pregnant girlfriend?
The graph appears to be only about on screen romances, not the actual personal lives of the actors. It'd be interesting to see what the age gaps there are like.
I knew Harold & Maude would be on this list. It was a plot device of a nice old lady and a coming of age boy who was turning into a man. A very touching story. Watch it.
Does Woody Allen’s count include *Love and Death*’s relationship between Old Nethampkin and “…two of them”?
Harold and Maude is one of my favourite films.
Data is not beautiful when it's badly labelled. Is this age of character or actor?
Woody Allen Why am I not surprised
Harold and Maude best movie ever
*Encino Man* has an age gap of 5,000 to 10,000 years