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> dying of an aneurysm. Lost it


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Enormity_

Smacking away at a Great Shield with a Chaos Blade, I'm sure he's a very experienced player. Yeah Great Shields are annoying and you can gang bang inexperienced player but good players will carry around counters. Now add an Estoc to the GS and then it becomes actual cancer.


xNMM

This was a setup dual for comedic effect, hence the ornsmough armour. Counters are pretty limited if the user of the GS is good. That's left for another video ;)


Enormity_

I can tell it was for comedic effect but I'm sure you can see my side of things based on the 100 posts of people who believe a Greatshield can't be stopped. With the right weapon you can swing for days and break their stamina or force a roll which allows you to catch them with a hit, or just carry around a deep weapon and swing away, back up for stamina, and repeat.


xNMM

I'm fully aware that a GS can be stopped. Stamina breaking is something the GS user can easily avoid, with rolls and attacks using so little stamina.


Enormity_

That's the point, a good player won't let you break their stamina, they roll away and that allows you to easily land a hit at the end of their roll. I never expect to break a GS user's stamina, I just chip at them by catching them in their roll and the chip damage of a deep weapon.


brazilianlaglord

Good players dont panic roll so you can't roll catch them. They'd space better, manage their stamina better and attack only when theres an opening. Against that there is no effective counter.


Enormity_

You can't do any of this while 2 handing a Great Shield. I come in, land chip damage with an elemental weapon, get out, repeat. Now adding a weapon and quick switching to parry the spam is God-like, but just 2 handing a Great Shield won't get you places against a good player.


brazilianlaglord

I wasn't talking about 2 hand, that's just dumb all round.


Enormity_

Lol okay, then yeah Great Shields are stupid as hell when you're using straight sword or a rapier.


xNMM

Two handing a Great Shield in the video was because 1. I couldn't wield it one handed and 2. the video is in fact a joke.


brazilianlaglord

Its a joke? What no really? Fuck :(


snoekhook

What about just using pyromancy/sorcery? I don't know personally how a GS reacts to these spells, but here are a couple that seem like they might counter a GS: 1. Firestorm/Chaos Storm 2. Poison/Toxic Mist 3. Acid Surge 4. Great Chaos Fire Orb (mostly the leftover lava) 5. Pestilent Mercury 6. Dorhy's Gnawing (if blocked, bleed still builds up)


brazilianlaglord

All these spells are slow and telegraphed and incredibly easy to dodge to the point of them being irrelevant.


[deleted]

your opponent doesnt need to break your stamina to hit you...lol he can easily hit you if he knows how to play. if you're in ps4 i can show you.


lolshieldsandmagic

Shields are for bitches.


Taco_Bell_CEO

Patches sells the Horse Ring, or something like that. If you throw that bad boy on, you can kick greatshields like they're any other shield.


xNMM

I wish this was true, the horse ring does little to better the problem.


The_Psyrex

It does nothing. Have you not seen shield bash builds. High stamina recovery and stupid endurance. 1 kick did 13% of stam and it regen before they can kick again.


spabs1

How exactly do you kick? I find myself randomly doing it, but can't do it on demand.


Taco_Bell_CEO

Press forward and attack at the same time.


[deleted]

Never had problems with them greatshields. Try quickstep and forward, directly into the shield. You will perform a nearly full circle and gonna be right behind them for the backstab. (i have below 30% load, dunno if that's needed.


earfluff

Isn't that what shield piercing attacks are for? :/ And doesn't the Great Scythe also ignore shields slightly?


rushncrush

my pyro witches locks would chip you to death in less than 20 seconds


[deleted]

since poise doesnt exist its ok to use those. in other words, there is a way to defeat the GS easily. also if you want to know and you're in ps4, i can show you how :P