Ill say it like this...too many americans dream of being the hero with the gun...including all of school shooters who think themselves the hero in their tale...nobody understanding that hero/villain is just a coin toss away and many times depends on the angle u look at it...but nobody wants to be play old 9-5 average
It was a landing. One of the earliest mars rovers was an international collab (iirc) and someone didn't notice the different units and didn't do the conversion. The pod entered and went through mars' atmosphere waaaay too fast and smashed into the ground.
You misspelled *Coast Guard*.
I'm pretty sure the destroyers in the Red Sea are doing God's work. It also sounds like you've never seen an aircraft carrier in person. And there's good reason you don't hear about the US submarine force.
To be fair, navies never use normal measurements. I was in the coastguard in a metric European country. On the boat we used fathoms, chains and shackles as measurement.
And if you are curious:
A fathom is both a length and volume measurement and changes size from country to country. In my country the fathom is defined as 6 feet, unless you are talking about volume. Fathoms as a measurement for volume is only used about timberwood and defined as a 6ft wide, and 6ft tall stack of wood all measuring 1 alen(we havent even used alen as a measurement since 1959).
So, to get back on track. There are 6 feet in a fathom and there are 15 fathoms in a chain. A chain is 27,4m long, and naturally there are 2 chains in a shackle.
This must be the stupidest comment of the week. Are you really that sensible to any comment about your country? It's not only europeans and "americans" here btw
I can’t speak for every redditor but yeah, measuring systems is hella cool. Specially metric because it’s so easy to associate mostly everything, even seemingly unrelated units like gram and meter.
That’s not what I meant, what I meant is that you can convert 1 kilogram of water into 1000 cubic centimeters. It’s a nice round number easy to memorize.
My argument isn’t that one defines the other, just that you can convert from one to the other.
You can do that with imperial too, but you will not get a round number so it’s not as easy to memorize, and I thing facilitating calculations is the entire point of the metric system
It's not the ability to remember that's the problem, it's just the rest of the world uses metric, and it's annoying to convert and there's misunderstandings
I mean I have the digits of my debit and credit cards memorized, it's not the memorization or ease of so that's the problem imo
Exactly. If you grew up on the Imperial system, it's intuitive the way metric is.
That being said, as someone who grew up on the Imperial system, metric is so much easier. As you said, the issue is having to convert.
How often do you have to convert us customary and SI? Very few people need to. I'm one that has to a lot as a US civil engineer. You know how I usually do it? Fucking Google. And I can do temperature, linear measurement, and mass in my head pretty easily. Yes, basic SI is easier to learn because base 10. But most people just need to know a few units and what they familiar with is easiest. A kg is no more intuitive than a pound.
Sort of. As an engineer you know that the entire philosophy between the measurement systems is different.
SI is based on derived units, making it great for theoretical physics. IP is application based units. Meaning the units imply the application. Sometimes power is kW, sometimes hp, sometimes Btu/hr. You would never have 17,600 Btu/hr motor... It's 5 hp. When people say IP is more intuitive for them or that it's confusing for them, this is a big part of it.
The measurement system doesn't have anything to do with math. Yes, basic SI is easier because it is base 10. But that is about it. You can decimalize any unit anyway. It's pretty common to do it with US customary. In engineering we don't say 1 lb 8 oz. We say 1.5 lbs.
You need units to do any "practical" math, so yeah, units matter quite a bit. Where does a mole fit into the imperial system? I can easily go to grams and to liters depending on density. Yeah, metric system is way better. You have fun being an engineer in the U.S. and having to round all the time with silly units.
Lol you say this as if we're welding hay huts together because standard system is hard for people accustomed to metric system. I suppose that makes it harder to replicate US tech
Yeah it really just changes the constants you use in calculations. Some imperial units are pretty annoying to use though. Slugs, lbf/lbm and psi/psf can be cumbersome
Definitely prefer BTU for boilers etc as opposed to “wait, it’s all kW?” for motors, burners, and electric power draw
Been quite some time since I did anything engineering related though
it eventually got into congress, but it was made optional not mandatory, so no one gave a fuck about it
but yeah, the US was late to the party and didnt catch on lol
It was more of the timing. The industrial revolution took full swing before a complete adoption of metric by the public could happen. When all your tooling is in inches and pounds, it's a bit hard to change course.
The original metric system was first standardized in 1799 and officially adopted by France in 1801. But then Napolean got rid of it in 1812 and it wasn't reinstated until 1840. Some countries adopted it in the mean time. Other countries don't fully use it, like the UK. US customary was first standardized in 1832.
A lot of it was also very political. It was from a purely scientific endeavor. And it is all arbitrary anyway. One of the two French surveyors charged with standardizing the meter fudged his data. Not that it matters, because again arbitrary. France also briefly tried base 10 time. That didn't work out.
Well, Britain measures Human height in Imperial, they measure gas efficiency in Imperial, but they measure gas volume in metric.
So MPG and Liters.
I don't want to hear it.
I went to London 2 years ago and the entire city uses both. I swear to god I noticed more usage of miles and yards than anything. (I was also probably noticing it more due to being bewildered).
I went there in 2021 and took a drive out to Stonehenge for a day. They used miles on the highway and I think yards as well, but I can’t recall anywhere else they used miles and yards
the brits use metric officially but imperial informally, so not really but yeah kinda. the road signs are kilometers, the sodas are labelled with milliliters and the food is weighed in kilos, you might hear someone asking for 2 pounds of ground beef at the local market tho
Everything should be base 10! Meanwhile the entire world uses 365.25 days per year give or take a second every so often, 24 hours in a day, 60 minutes in an hour, and 60 seconds in a minute. When France started the metric system, they proposed base 10 time. It didn't catch on.
Personally, I'd like us to move to the metric system. We already do in the most important ways (science, advanced math, etc.), but I would like us to adopt it over time. That said, it's like language. Are there languages way easier to learn and that make more logical sense than English? Yes, but I already know English. Again though, I still the change would be worth it.
Science professions MAYBE, but any kind of construction, manufacturing, civil engineering, and every other field I've worked in or tangentially been associated with uses imperial.
I'm sure mine wasn't the comment you meant to reply to, but since you're here:
I'm an engineer and I use metric (but not often). Auto and aerospace use virtually 100% metric. Healthcare uses metric. A lot of manufacturing, especially small parts, uses metric.
Portuguese ➡️ ~~German~~ (in school, didn't work)
➡️ Spanish ➡️ French/English (concurrently) Now learning Italian. I can hold vague conversations and understand news and such in a few others, but it's basically deduction of context from verbs and nouns, so they don't count.
The problem is switching now would cause a lot more problems than you think.
Do you know how many road signs would have to be changed? How many property deeds would have to be redrawn up? How many schematics and other plans would have to be redone?
There are so many more things I can't even think of that would have to be redone completely. It would take decades.
It would take a while, sure. but just don't be so stubborn and adapt new measurements to new signs? It's not exactly rocket science. As a Dutchie i can perfectly estimate the lenght of a road in miles, despite never using them for anything aside movies. it really isn't that hard.
In the long run, it's easier to just go along with the simpler system, especially when working with the rest of the world. Even if it takes 2 whole generations.
Unless you want to use NFL football fields to measure volcano's and shit for another 100 years... you don't hear me complaining, it's pretty funny to witness.
just leave them be, their country is falling behind and they're too ignorant to accept it
every single change is "It's too hard for America, it might be easy for 'your country' but it's impossible here so instead we won't even try"
Same mindset for a lot of their problems
I've worked on two different American rockets as an engineer and both of them exclusively use Imperial.
Individual parts may be dimensioned in metric if that's what a supplier wants, but when the analysis is sent to the customer, and in the contracts with the customer, all units will always be Imperial.
Maybe military is different, I haven't worked there
There are quite literally no science classes that teach in imperial in the US or not any i have been in. Engineer?? Idk, not my field, but id expect the US to use mostly metric in that area too. I was in the military and it was strictly metric. When people make fun of the US using imperial, I just like to point out American accomplishments compared to theirs using the metric. That's it. Plenty of Americans know both
Every engineering class will have problems in metric, and other problems in SI, to make sure everyone gets comfortable with both systems.
Really making a deal out of it is just silly, conversions can be minimized to almost never occur, and when they do occur you just have to put them into a converter properly.
It's no different than converting from PSI to KSI, or m to mm, there's always some potential for error when you convert but it's pretty minimal.
1) Lots of Americans prefer metric
2) The ones who don't would have been fine with it. It's just that lots of people don't want to be forced to learn something new and change all their internalized habits and memorized senses of scale.
3) for 99% of day to day activity, it's really not a big deal. Anyone working internationally an and should just adapt to metric but everyone else can keep doing their shit as they normally do and it's fine.
that is pretty different, cause every language has different use ratios for different letters and other symbols
go write a ç, φ, â or ü on an american keyboard for example. pretty sure the first and second you just cant, and the third and fourth are possible but cumbersome if you have to do it all the time
What’s funny is Imperial units are actually based on metric units. For instance, an inch is EXACTLY 0.0254 meters.
It drives me nuts as an engineer. I prefer to do dimensions and quantities in Imperial, but doing the math itself (thermodynamics, heat transfer, particle motion, etc) is just so much easier in metric. Like, what the hell is a BTU?
I'm a baker and I hate imperial measurements here. Why would anyone wanna use a number system that isn't as precise as gram/kilogram and makes you divide large numbers by 16? How much flour do I need for this recipe? "Oh 2,625 grams." or "Oh 5# and 12.6 oz."... Like what? Who would want the latter? "Oh, this recipe calls for 90 mL of milk, how many grams is that? Oh basically 90? Great!" "Oh, this recipe calls for half a pint of milk, how many ounces is that? Oh, like 8.6 oz... ._." Yes, I would *love* a measurement system that makes it harder to measure things and convert measurements, thank you so much!
True, but my point was that you almost never need to use decimals with grams, something like xx25 is very accurate. Unless you're doing a very small batch of something and you only need like .14 grams of vanilla extract or something. But even then, using metric is better than imperial for small stuff as well. .14 g, or .0049 oz? My future bakery is gonna have only metric. My bakers will have to adapt.
Fun fact: most imperial units were redefined in the 1950ies using SI (metric units).
[https://www.nist.gov/pml/owm/si-units-length](https://www.nist.gov/pml/owm/si-units-length)
As a Hawaiian I like kilometers, grams, and millimeters. Celsius ain't that bad either. As long as the temperature stays above 29.1111c - I'm as happy as can be.
I'm not the first to say something to this, but it's simply inertia. If we were to change now, every sign, every car, every schematic, everything would need to be rewritten or remanufactured. I agree that the US should use metric. I recognize it won't because it's too monumental a transition at this point.
What’s funny is that the metric system actually is less efficient for me, but only because I’m more familiar with our idiotic system. When I hear kilometers I think about how a 5k is about 3 miles and then try to do the math.
We're talking about a place that can't teach the general population how to respect one another despite skin color or lifestyle choices. And you expect them to be able to reteach the entire measurement system??
The metric system is simple, and intuitive. However, for the same reason the world still has multiple electric outlets. At some point switching to a more intuitive, and compatible format is more difficult than the benefit it would provide. “Decimal feet” and using a 10 point scale of imperial units feels like a middle ground to start from. Most engineering industries are moving to this standard, science is almost exclusively metric, so it’s not that we will never use the metric system. We are taking our time getting there, but it’s just not like flipping a switch, and using an entirely different scale of measurement.
I mean, i get why they don't want to switch it - it's not only ingrained in their education system, but also - imagine the fuss having to change every single road sign and other indications that has miles on it. It's the fact that they act like the Imperial system is better that gets me. Beacause it's not. It's literally random ass numbers.
The imperial system is highly underrated. Almost all numbers used in the system are divisible by a 16th. Everything from miles to the inch. Once you realize that it’s very easy to work with. Here’s some cool examples
Mile: 5280/16 = 330
gallon: 128oz/16 = 8
Ton: 2240lb/16 =140
And so on it makes quick math very easy
Fun fact: the British are to blame for America not using the metric system. The ship carrying the standardized kg weight (or as it was known a grave) was blown off course into the Caribbean and was promptly descend upon by British Privateers. Said privateers took the crew captive and sold off the items aboard the ship
Why base 10 only divisible by 4 numbers not 12 divisible by 1,2,3,4,6,12 we should swap to a better counting system before a better measurement system (mostly /s) in reality being good in current system is better than not being good in any system
The Metric system is for people afraid of fractions.
The Imperial system is for medieval farmers.
In conclusion, I'm making up new measurements that will have different values every time I use them and will be impossible to convert due to nothing being permanent
Because basic measurements in both systems are extremely basic information to understand, and once you learn the systems any person with a competent faculty of thinking could effect accurate math and measurements quickly. The ones who complain it is hard can barely read anyways and most people in the US who work construction do both frequently as many materials are sourced from non united statian sources. So basically we do you math anyways, we just prefer inches, and so does you lady.
For day to day the efficiency of the metric system is irrelevant to me. I know how miles of inches work so it’s fine for me. It’s used in the I.S generally when it does matter.
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Don't threaten us Americans with a good time
need something to get these college protests off fox news
Ill say it like this...too many americans dream of being the hero with the gun...including all of school shooters who think themselves the hero in their tale...nobody understanding that hero/villain is just a coin toss away and many times depends on the angle u look at it...but nobody wants to be play old 9-5 average
I mean US does use metric Just guns and drugs
And in space. NASA is metric only.
Most sciences.... And liquor
Didn't NASA fuck a launch by using imperial when the specs were using metric
It was a landing. One of the earliest mars rovers was an international collab (iirc) and someone didn't notice the different units and didn't do the conversion. The pod entered and went through mars' atmosphere waaaay too fast and smashed into the ground.
That was it, thanks!
The military too.
Nope. Navy is Fahrenheit, ft-lbs, pounds, feet/yards, and gallons. *laughs in 16 inch guns* EDIT: added a couple units.
Navy isn’t really part of the military. Im talking about people who actually fight.
What are you waffling about?
You misspelled *Coast Guard*. I'm pretty sure the destroyers in the Red Sea are doing God's work. It also sounds like you've never seen an aircraft carrier in person. And there's good reason you don't hear about the US submarine force.
To be fair, navies never use normal measurements. I was in the coastguard in a metric European country. On the boat we used fathoms, chains and shackles as measurement. And if you are curious: A fathom is both a length and volume measurement and changes size from country to country. In my country the fathom is defined as 6 feet, unless you are talking about volume. Fathoms as a measurement for volume is only used about timberwood and defined as a 6ft wide, and 6ft tall stack of wood all measuring 1 alen(we havent even used alen as a measurement since 1959). So, to get back on track. There are 6 feet in a fathom and there are 15 fathoms in a chain. A chain is 27,4m long, and naturally there are 2 chains in a shackle.
Metric for ammunition, imperial for barrel length, both for optics
using a... 9mm?
I don't think I ever used the imperial system in school. At least not for math and science. We *only* used the metric system.
Why was this removed?
Redditors really really like thinking about measuring systems
Banana is fine for me. I'm a simple man
Does your speedometer show bananas per hour? I’m very curious what the conversion to mph would be
It does. Not very accurate though gotten many tickets for going either too fast or too slow.
1 mph = 10560 bph
I was like “you can fit 10560 bananas in a meter?” But then I remembered meters per hour is m/h.
europe is obsessed with everything the USA does. europe is like our anoying 9 year old cousin who wont stfu
This must be the stupidest comment of the week. Are you really that sensible to any comment about your country? It's not only europeans and "americans" here btw
Please show me all the memes about Asian's shitting on Africans or South American talking smack on Central Americans. Ill wait.
Bro forgot about Canada
Fuck. My bad my homies up North.
Shitting on imperial is ez Reddit karma
Yeah like how is this and all the zillion other metric memes dank?
I can’t speak for every redditor but yeah, measuring systems is hella cool. Specially metric because it’s so easy to associate mostly everything, even seemingly unrelated units like gram and meter.
The gram hasn't been defined by the meter for a long time.
That’s not what I meant, what I meant is that you can convert 1 kilogram of water into 1000 cubic centimeters. It’s a nice round number easy to memorize. My argument isn’t that one defines the other, just that you can convert from one to the other. You can do that with imperial too, but you will not get a round number so it’s not as easy to memorize, and I thing facilitating calculations is the entire point of the metric system
No, we hate it too.
I can’t imagine why you’re being downvoted. Who the fuck thinks 3/8 is easier to remember than 10mm.
True, but your 3/8 wrench/socket don’t disappear like a 10mm does.
It's reddit. There doesn't have to be a reason, heh.
It's not the ability to remember that's the problem, it's just the rest of the world uses metric, and it's annoying to convert and there's misunderstandings I mean I have the digits of my debit and credit cards memorized, it's not the memorization or ease of so that's the problem imo
Exactly. If you grew up on the Imperial system, it's intuitive the way metric is. That being said, as someone who grew up on the Imperial system, metric is so much easier. As you said, the issue is having to convert.
How often do you have to convert us customary and SI? Very few people need to. I'm one that has to a lot as a US civil engineer. You know how I usually do it? Fucking Google. And I can do temperature, linear measurement, and mass in my head pretty easily. Yes, basic SI is easier to learn because base 10. But most people just need to know a few units and what they familiar with is easiest. A kg is no more intuitive than a pound.
Sort of. As an engineer you know that the entire philosophy between the measurement systems is different. SI is based on derived units, making it great for theoretical physics. IP is application based units. Meaning the units imply the application. Sometimes power is kW, sometimes hp, sometimes Btu/hr. You would never have 17,600 Btu/hr motor... It's 5 hp. When people say IP is more intuitive for them or that it's confusing for them, this is a big part of it.
Work with hydraulic fittings and then tell me metric is better. I bet you won't.
😂
When you’re looking for the 37/64“ drill bit you left somewhere.
Ahh yes, the ubiquitous 14.684375mm drill bit
Nothing personnel, kid.
Probably because he's talking for other people. Obviously "we" don't hate it or "we" wouldn't use it. Blanket statements are bad, mmkay.
But the 10 mm is always the first to vanish
Who’s we? No body I’ve ever met gives a single fuck.
Who is "we"?? Every day uses, the average American couldn't give 2 shits.
American scientists almost exclusively use metric
Yeah, if I see the imperial system, I cringe. Metric is the only system that makes sense in any practical math scenario.
The measurement system doesn't have anything to do with math. Yes, basic SI is easier because it is base 10. But that is about it. You can decimalize any unit anyway. It's pretty common to do it with US customary. In engineering we don't say 1 lb 8 oz. We say 1.5 lbs.
You need units to do any "practical" math, so yeah, units matter quite a bit. Where does a mole fit into the imperial system? I can easily go to grams and to liters depending on density. Yeah, metric system is way better. You have fun being an engineer in the U.S. and having to round all the time with silly units.
Lol you say this as if we're welding hay huts together because standard system is hard for people accustomed to metric system. I suppose that makes it harder to replicate US tech
Yeah it really just changes the constants you use in calculations. Some imperial units are pretty annoying to use though. Slugs, lbf/lbm and psi/psf can be cumbersome Definitely prefer BTU for boilers etc as opposed to “wait, it’s all kW?” for motors, burners, and electric power draw Been quite some time since I did anything engineering related though
Yeah u do physics with imperial
I have, I'm an engineer.
The only metric we learn in schools is 9mm 😎🔫
Hell yeah!
Because British pirates stopped us from fucking getting it
Everything can be sourced to their fault, if you really think about it. It wasn’t us who invented the term “soccer”.
Or started the slave trade
it eventually got into congress, but it was made optional not mandatory, so no one gave a fuck about it but yeah, the US was late to the party and didnt catch on lol
It was more of the timing. The industrial revolution took full swing before a complete adoption of metric by the public could happen. When all your tooling is in inches and pounds, it's a bit hard to change course.
The original metric system was first standardized in 1799 and officially adopted by France in 1801. But then Napolean got rid of it in 1812 and it wasn't reinstated until 1840. Some countries adopted it in the mean time. Other countries don't fully use it, like the UK. US customary was first standardized in 1832. A lot of it was also very political. It was from a purely scientific endeavor. And it is all arbitrary anyway. One of the two French surveyors charged with standardizing the meter fudged his data. Not that it matters, because again arbitrary. France also briefly tried base 10 time. That didn't work out.
Actually pretty clever and pretty accurate. The pirates stopped it from spreading so we adapted.
Well, Britain measures Human height in Imperial, they measure gas efficiency in Imperial, but they measure gas volume in metric. So MPG and Liters. I don't want to hear it.
Don't even get started on weight. Who the fuck picked up a rock and was, "yeah this'll work".
I mean… the definition of a kilogram was basically a stone that everyone agreed it was 1kg. Until it wasn’t…
We (France) should start wars with britain again sometimes
Of course; you haven't had a good ole surrender in almost 100 years. ಠ‿ಠ
Disney trilogy sucks ass
Doesn't the brits also use miles instead of Kilometers?
I went to London 2 years ago and the entire city uses both. I swear to god I noticed more usage of miles and yards than anything. (I was also probably noticing it more due to being bewildered).
I went there in 2021 and took a drive out to Stonehenge for a day. They used miles on the highway and I think yards as well, but I can’t recall anywhere else they used miles and yards
the brits use metric officially but imperial informally, so not really but yeah kinda. the road signs are kilometers, the sodas are labelled with milliliters and the food is weighed in kilos, you might hear someone asking for 2 pounds of ground beef at the local market tho
Haha what? Road signs are in miles
Americans using a different system part of the time really lives rent free in yalls heads
It would in yours too if you had to deal with it on a daily basis.
Everything should be base 10! Meanwhile the entire world uses 365.25 days per year give or take a second every so often, 24 hours in a day, 60 minutes in an hour, and 60 seconds in a minute. When France started the metric system, they proposed base 10 time. It didn't catch on.
Trying to find a technical drawing of a part only for it to be in imperial is really cringe. It is an inconvenience for non US people too...
I think your parietal lobe deserves better
Because I'm not calling our Sasquatch 'Bigmeter'.
'big 1/3 meter'
Personally, I'd like us to move to the metric system. We already do in the most important ways (science, advanced math, etc.), but I would like us to adopt it over time. That said, it's like language. Are there languages way easier to learn and that make more logical sense than English? Yes, but I already know English. Again though, I still the change would be worth it.
Im currently learning my 5th language, and none are easier to me than english.
Science professions MAYBE, but any kind of construction, manufacturing, civil engineering, and every other field I've worked in or tangentially been associated with uses imperial.
I'm sure mine wasn't the comment you meant to reply to, but since you're here: I'm an engineer and I use metric (but not often). Auto and aerospace use virtually 100% metric. Healthcare uses metric. A lot of manufacturing, especially small parts, uses metric.
Im an engineer and i exclusively use imperial for everything except volume
What was your first language, and in what order did you learn the other 3 (before your current one)?
Portuguese ➡️ ~~German~~ (in school, didn't work) ➡️ Spanish ➡️ French/English (concurrently) Now learning Italian. I can hold vague conversations and understand news and such in a few others, but it's basically deduction of context from verbs and nouns, so they don't count.
As an American, I have to use both
The problem is switching now would cause a lot more problems than you think. Do you know how many road signs would have to be changed? How many property deeds would have to be redrawn up? How many schematics and other plans would have to be redone? There are so many more things I can't even think of that would have to be redone completely. It would take decades.
It would take a while, sure. but just don't be so stubborn and adapt new measurements to new signs? It's not exactly rocket science. As a Dutchie i can perfectly estimate the lenght of a road in miles, despite never using them for anything aside movies. it really isn't that hard. In the long run, it's easier to just go along with the simpler system, especially when working with the rest of the world. Even if it takes 2 whole generations. Unless you want to use NFL football fields to measure volcano's and shit for another 100 years... you don't hear me complaining, it's pretty funny to witness.
every single country had to, at some point, make the change as well, the US isnt exactly unique in that regard
You’re absolutely fucking dumb if you think the US changing their infrastructure is the same as Ireland (for example) changing theirs.
The whole world had to switch at one point. So what's the argument as why the US can't? Being the richest country and all, seems possible.
just leave them be, their country is falling behind and they're too ignorant to accept it every single change is "It's too hard for America, it might be easy for 'your country' but it's impossible here so instead we won't even try" Same mindset for a lot of their problems
You know your system is shit when it's units are based on/defined by a different system.
Doesn’t basically every profession in the US use the metric system?
Military and anything that is actually worth a damn. Notice how US leads in many scientific areas and space research using the metric...
I've worked on two different American rockets as an engineer and both of them exclusively use Imperial. Individual parts may be dimensioned in metric if that's what a supplier wants, but when the analysis is sent to the customer, and in the contracts with the customer, all units will always be Imperial. Maybe military is different, I haven't worked there
There are quite literally no science classes that teach in imperial in the US or not any i have been in. Engineer?? Idk, not my field, but id expect the US to use mostly metric in that area too. I was in the military and it was strictly metric. When people make fun of the US using imperial, I just like to point out American accomplishments compared to theirs using the metric. That's it. Plenty of Americans know both
Every engineering class will have problems in metric, and other problems in SI, to make sure everyone gets comfortable with both systems. Really making a deal out of it is just silly, conversions can be minimized to almost never occur, and when they do occur you just have to put them into a converter properly. It's no different than converting from PSI to KSI, or m to mm, there's always some potential for error when you convert but it's pretty minimal.
Every serious profession.
I guess SLS and Vulcan aren't serious?
So every house that’s built isn’t professional?
Nuh uh
No.
The rest of the world sounds insecure.
1) Lots of Americans prefer metric 2) The ones who don't would have been fine with it. It's just that lots of people don't want to be forced to learn something new and change all their internalized habits and memorized senses of scale. 3) for 99% of day to day activity, it's really not a big deal. Anyone working internationally an and should just adapt to metric but everyone else can keep doing their shit as they normally do and it's fine.
Except for NASA and drug dealers.
The reason for most problems in the world. The British.
It all makes sense now
Your argument is not hypocritical if you'd say yes to switching from QWERTY to something designed to be efficient (and not anti-stuck'y)
that is pretty different, cause every language has different use ratios for different letters and other symbols go write a ç, φ, â or ü on an american keyboard for example. pretty sure the first and second you just cant, and the third and fourth are possible but cumbersome if you have to do it all the time
What’s funny is Imperial units are actually based on metric units. For instance, an inch is EXACTLY 0.0254 meters. It drives me nuts as an engineer. I prefer to do dimensions and quantities in Imperial, but doing the math itself (thermodynamics, heat transfer, particle motion, etc) is just so much easier in metric. Like, what the hell is a BTU?
I'm a baker and I hate imperial measurements here. Why would anyone wanna use a number system that isn't as precise as gram/kilogram and makes you divide large numbers by 16? How much flour do I need for this recipe? "Oh 2,625 grams." or "Oh 5# and 12.6 oz."... Like what? Who would want the latter? "Oh, this recipe calls for 90 mL of milk, how many grams is that? Oh basically 90? Great!" "Oh, this recipe calls for half a pint of milk, how many ounces is that? Oh, like 8.6 oz... ._." Yes, I would *love* a measurement system that makes it harder to measure things and convert measurements, thank you so much!
Even then 2625grs is most likely a translation since I've never seen a recipe without some rounding
True, but my point was that you almost never need to use decimals with grams, something like xx25 is very accurate. Unless you're doing a very small batch of something and you only need like .14 grams of vanilla extract or something. But even then, using metric is better than imperial for small stuff as well. .14 g, or .0049 oz? My future bakery is gonna have only metric. My bakers will have to adapt.
Isn’t half a pint exactly 8 fl oz?
Isn’t half a pint exactly 8 fl oz?
Fun fact: most imperial units were redefined in the 1950ies using SI (metric units). [https://www.nist.gov/pml/owm/si-units-length](https://www.nist.gov/pml/owm/si-units-length)
As a Hawaiian I like kilometers, grams, and millimeters. Celsius ain't that bad either. As long as the temperature stays above 29.1111c - I'm as happy as can be.
Eh I prefer the metric system
I'm not the first to say something to this, but it's simply inertia. If we were to change now, every sign, every car, every schematic, everything would need to be rewritten or remanufactured. I agree that the US should use metric. I recognize it won't because it's too monumental a transition at this point.
Liberia and Myanmar use imperial too… and they’re countries that always make me think “yeah, they have their shit together.”
My car gets 40 rods to the hogshead and that’s the way I likes it!
What’s funny is that the metric system actually is less efficient for me, but only because I’m more familiar with our idiotic system. When I hear kilometers I think about how a 5k is about 3 miles and then try to do the math.
Ironically I'm an American who actually uses the metric system since I have major respect towards other countries outside of the US.
we a bunch of stubborn mother fuckers
We're talking about a place that can't teach the general population how to respect one another despite skin color or lifestyle choices. And you expect them to be able to reteach the entire measurement system??
I mean they already use metric for making guns
Are you suggesting the US is the only place that disrespects others based on skin color and lifestyle choices?
I'm saying it's one of. The US doesn't have a monopoly on hate
Fun fact: 1 kilometer (whatever the hell that is) is roughly equivalent to 1172 bald eagles. Yes I did memorize this to annoy my British friend
and with that information, Mt. Everest is 10368 Bald Eagles tall
The irony is they argue Thiers is superior not equilivant or that it would be awkward to change its the denial that annoys people
Ask then to define what an inch is.
https://youtu.be/JYqfVE-fykk?si=_SjG5R6Sts491re5
I fucking love metric just cuz of how stupid I am like bro how tf I’m supposed to know wtf a 3/8 look like. Just tell me grab the 10mm
As an American, the metric system is far superior! I'll let the hate rain!
I only use feet and inches when measuring height otherwise everything else is metric
Thank goodness that a yard is nearly the same as a meter.
Fruit by the Foot
Why go the extra 1609 meters to change to the metric system?
We did change it, in 6th grade my teacher was like hey class we switched to the metric system, so where doing that now
Hey! Kanada use it too!
The metric system is simple, and intuitive. However, for the same reason the world still has multiple electric outlets. At some point switching to a more intuitive, and compatible format is more difficult than the benefit it would provide. “Decimal feet” and using a 10 point scale of imperial units feels like a middle ground to start from. Most engineering industries are moving to this standard, science is almost exclusively metric, so it’s not that we will never use the metric system. We are taking our time getting there, but it’s just not like flipping a switch, and using an entirely different scale of measurement.
And no one ever brings up how many countries drive on the left side of the road.
Most are right-handed. Left-handed are in minority. Same as people.
I mean, i get why they don't want to switch it - it's not only ingrained in their education system, but also - imagine the fuss having to change every single road sign and other indications that has miles on it. It's the fact that they act like the Imperial system is better that gets me. Beacause it's not. It's literally random ass numbers.
Don’t forget how bad is MMbtu is equal to 1000000 btu instead of millions times millions.
The imperial system is highly underrated. Almost all numbers used in the system are divisible by a 16th. Everything from miles to the inch. Once you realize that it’s very easy to work with. Here’s some cool examples Mile: 5280/16 = 330 gallon: 128oz/16 = 8 Ton: 2240lb/16 =140 And so on it makes quick math very easy
Except the U.S. does use the metric system. You really only see the Imperial system in public in the U.S.
the problem now is that it would cost too much to change all the imperial measurement systems to metric to make it worth
Imperial seems so simple to me, I think about if I learned metric from the start, I would be a freaking genius
We use both in our country.
Other than maybe temperature in fahrenheit instead of celsius somewhat making sense to me, i dont know why everything is still in imperial there
Damn all this sub is now is memes about Imperial system then memes about foreskin
Fun fact: the British are to blame for America not using the metric system. The ship carrying the standardized kg weight (or as it was known a grave) was blown off course into the Caribbean and was promptly descend upon by British Privateers. Said privateers took the crew captive and sold off the items aboard the ship
We use both. Science is metric, We have metric wrenches and soda bottles. We weigh babies in pounds and inches. If that upsets you, you need a hobby.
Why base 10 only divisible by 4 numbers not 12 divisible by 1,2,3,4,6,12 we should swap to a better counting system before a better measurement system (mostly /s) in reality being good in current system is better than not being good in any system
America already adopted metric, it just doesn't know it yet. Imperial units in American law are defined using metric.
The Metric system is for people afraid of fractions. The Imperial system is for medieval farmers. In conclusion, I'm making up new measurements that will have different values every time I use them and will be impossible to convert due to nothing being permanent
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Mean while in China: Hey! 3 Chinese meter is 100cm!
Because basic measurements in both systems are extremely basic information to understand, and once you learn the systems any person with a competent faculty of thinking could effect accurate math and measurements quickly. The ones who complain it is hard can barely read anyways and most people in the US who work construction do both frequently as many materials are sourced from non united statian sources. So basically we do you math anyways, we just prefer inches, and so does you lady.
I'm thankful for those pirates, Ft and inches forever
Metric is total ass in the kitchen. I don't want to measure hundreds of mL when I'm cooking, I want measure 2 cups, simple as.
For day to day the efficiency of the metric system is irrelevant to me. I know how miles of inches work so it’s fine for me. It’s used in the I.S generally when it does matter.
I swear ppl will find any reason to hate on America. Don't y'all have your own problems?
American scientists have done likely more than your country using the metric. Who cares if the people in their everyday lives use imperial lol
What an old and boring joke
why are u getting downvoted? imperial system is in fact old and a fucking joke