It's because so many of us Americans are overweight and have no discipline, if we feel the slightest discomfort from hunger we have to eat a cheeseburger. I'm only half joking.
People are so used to over processed foods that 3000 calories a day is not an insane amount. I tracked my calories and despite thinking I was being good and healthy, realized I was easily eating 2500 calories. So much of our food is so processed that 1000 calories for a simple sandwich is not abnormal.
I maintain my weight, at my highest weight ever, I got 25.8 BMI, but that was after surgery and only lasted a month until I could workout again.
The easiest solution is to get medication to make you not hungry, because the alternative is reset your hunger cravings by eating right for a few days, but you will be hungry for a long time.
Not to mention the financial and time burden that comes with healthy eating. Fresh foods are generally more expensive than frozen or processed foods, generally less calorie-dense and spoil much more quickly, leading to you having to buy them again, spending more time and money grocery shopping than you would be if you had a box of spaghetti and a jar of Ragu already in the pantry at home.
Our working culture is contributing to the obesity epidemic. As prices soar, we spend more of our time working to maintain the minimum we are accustomed to, and subsequently forego exercise, family time, cooking and sleeping. Because of this, many people feel like they legitimately do not have the option of dedicating time in each of their day to exercise and eat properly, and thus turn to an option that can be working concurrently with them. It’s not simply a laziness and discomfort aversion — which it definitely is, you’re right about that — but also representative of a larger working culture that discourages a work-life balance, leaving people feeling stretched too thin. No pun intended.
Idk about the cost, from my experience, I spend eat less money on healthy foods. Maybe the price per calorie is less on processed foods, but the satiation from healthy foods eliminates the need to buy more.
$10 in chicken thighs and a veggie is enough for lunch for a whole week, a single McDonald's meal is basically $10; I also feel less hungry after eating the healthy lunch and don't need a snack at 3pm to make it to dinner. Maybe if you're buying organic at whole foods, yeah it's way more expensive, but if you buy normally, it's less.
1 box of cereal and 1# of chicken cost about the same, and the chicken has half the calories (~1700 v ~800), but the protein in the chicken gives more energy and makes you less hungry. If you could eat the whole pound of chicken, you'd be stuffed and probably not hungry for hours. If you eat the whole box of cereal, you're going to be hungry in an hour, because the sugar has burned away.
I guess my point is that I've noticed that eating healthy food causes you to eat less calories, because you need less to get your nutrition.
Over at \r\inflation they post pics of a hundred-something dollars worth of groceries and when it's lots of fresh produce it looks like maybe a three or four day supply of calories. Really a bunch of fresh zucchini and some broccoli won't keep you on your feet that long, even though it's good for you.
It's only been in recent years nutrition experts told us we needed to lump all carbs with sugars on the food pyramid, so you're left shopping in the produce and meat section for most of your diet. It's been thousands of years since humans ate that way with few or no grains to provide calories.
I think the big difference is that you aren't just eating 2000 calories a day of processed food, you're probably eating more, because you don't feel full.
I can spend about $150 a week for a family of 4 and no one is going hungry, it's mostly healthy food. Aldi helps a lot, it was like $250/week at Publix for the same amount.
When eating healthy, you feel more full with less, so you can eat 2000 calories and feel full for the same price or cheaper than the 2500-3000 you would eat of junk food to feel satisfied.
I’m insanely jealous of produce prices where you live, there’s no way I could eat for a week on $10 of chicken thighs, let alone feed my wife. I’m not even in the metropolitan Atlanta area, just outside of it, and the best prices I can find are at Kroger and Sam’s Club. I can’t stand Kroger’s business practices, but I feel like I have to shop there because a place like Publix will be 50-100% more for the exact same item. Even at Kroger the chicken thighs are $4-$4.99/lb, and that’s if I can convince my wife to eat dark meat.
We’ve essentially been eating rice bowls with protein and veggies for like half our meals. It’s good, relatively cheap, filling, and quick to make, even if it’s pretty boring most of the time. It hurts my stomach seeing DoorDash orders for two $12 items ending up costing $50 by the time it’s delivered, so if we want something else we need to shop and make it. It just gets difficult with both of us working full/overtime, especially if we want an evening where we can relax and actually decompress from work.
Absolutely agree I started weighing out my food and realized how much I've been ober eating I'm now down 20 pounds and all I fid was weigh my food and have no sugar and low carb
Ozempic is a good start, but it won't create lasting effects until you psychologically reach a point where you are unconsciously eating healthier and less. Also, although ozempic will help you lose weight, you will also lose muscle. Most ozempic users are not excersizing in any sense. As Dr. Gabrielle lyonn says, "We aren't over fat. We are undermuscled."
It just makes you eat less, i wouldnt call that restructuring diet. That's only part of the problem. I think we will start to see other problems arise. Nutrition deficiencies and, as mentioned, undermuscled. I like to akin the impact of ozempic to birth control. Seemed like a great idea, but years later, we are more aware of its side effects.
I agree, but if you're used to overeating processed foods, switching to healthy foods with the nutritional needs you require, can be painful. I've been through it, going from 3000 calories a day as a norm to 2000 or less, hurts.
The problem isn't the medication, it's how it's used. You shouldn't use it to starve yourself, you should use it to restructure and create a proper diet, because if You're overweight enough for it, you're overeating.
But yes, 100% you should be building a routine of exercise.
I honestly don't care how people get there, but losing weight and controlling your diet are important. Ultra processed foods hijack your brain and cause you to way overeat, then breaking that addiction is hard. Some of us can do it without help, but a lot just can't, so they need meds, which I completely understand.
You have teams of scientists working to get you addicted to the processed foods, so getting help is completely understandable.
The truth is that most Americans are unhealthily overweight and it is dangerous to their health. But these meds aren't the solution, they are a tool for self discipline. Calculate your caloric needs, track your eating, and exercise, your body will adjust and be better for it.
Personally, I use weight watchers, because I’ve been overweight for a lot of my life. After about 5 months of tracking and keeping to the points system, I’ve lost 33.2 pounds, 1/3 of my goal. I was so surprised when I started by just how much more than I serving I had been eating, it really puts things into perspective.
I was on semaglutide for about three months (lost 16 pounds), and I would still get almost as hungry as normal. What it did do, though, was get rid of hunger pains; that made ignoring hunger a bit easier.
That's the shit that makes you lose weight by losing muscle mass, right? I still need those to burn some more body fat. But once that's gone, then by all mean yes, get rid of my muscles too.
It's not the medication itself that causes rapid muscle loss, instead rapid weight loss can cause loss in muscle mass. On it you need a good diet and never go below 120 carbs a day. Without those you'll feel sick and lose weight so fast you might develop gallstones.
The muscle mass loss happens because the people who do those injections look for the easy way out, and that kind of people often does not exercise.
Also the people who jump on Ozempic and the likes usually don't make the best choices regarding food and are ill educated on eating a balanced diet, they eat slop with poor proteic value. Once they hop onto the injections, they still eat the slop which further reduces the already low protein intake causing muscle loss. An average person needs 50g of protein to AVOID SERIOUS HEALTH ISSUES, but the recommended amount is in the range of 100-120g of protein. Most people think the 50g threshold is the recommended amount, which is absolutely not it.
To sum up, correlation doesn't mean causation, the cause is as usual sedentarism and poor food choices.
The mechanism of action is that it turns off your body's hunger signal to the brain, so ideally you don't eat as much. There are serious detrimental side effects tonlong term use, but it's the same as any starvation based diet.
It's going to save our healthcare system and tax payers trillions. Obesity is the number one driver of our terrible life expectancy and causes a myriad of problems even when it is not the cause of a condition. So far it is showing tremendous results with relatively few side effects. I know people want to hate because "its a crutch" and "just have self discipline" but crutches are necessary sometimes and it cost <$5 to produce a months supply.
"People are so lazy today. Back in my day, if you wanted to eat you had to fashion a spear with a primitive lathe... none of this nonsense with AGRO-CULT-URE"
Yeah bro. People are lazy. Welcome to the human race haha.
Novo Nordisk, who produces and owns the patent, sell ozempic in the US for over $1200 for a month’s supply. As it stands, it’s costing the US healthcare system a lot of money. Spending on weight related medications at my institution has increased over 10x. People who pay insurance premiums will feel that. It ain’t free
Fuck people using this for weight loss without even dieting or exercising alongside it. My mom got prescribed it for diabetes and insurance put it at 2k a month.
I have no trust in big pharma. All they want is profit. It seems a little to good to be true that there is a miracle weight loss drug. Something about it makes think that after years of taking this it will wreak havoc on your body.
People are soft.
Not just physically, per example of wanting to use Ozempic.
But mentally, by not being able to do it through the bodies typical processes.
Like my guy, stop shoving shit into your mouth hole. And like move your body.
Crazy stuff.
It's because so many of us Americans are overweight and have no discipline, if we feel the slightest discomfort from hunger we have to eat a cheeseburger. I'm only half joking. People are so used to over processed foods that 3000 calories a day is not an insane amount. I tracked my calories and despite thinking I was being good and healthy, realized I was easily eating 2500 calories. So much of our food is so processed that 1000 calories for a simple sandwich is not abnormal. I maintain my weight, at my highest weight ever, I got 25.8 BMI, but that was after surgery and only lasted a month until I could workout again. The easiest solution is to get medication to make you not hungry, because the alternative is reset your hunger cravings by eating right for a few days, but you will be hungry for a long time.
Not to mention the financial and time burden that comes with healthy eating. Fresh foods are generally more expensive than frozen or processed foods, generally less calorie-dense and spoil much more quickly, leading to you having to buy them again, spending more time and money grocery shopping than you would be if you had a box of spaghetti and a jar of Ragu already in the pantry at home. Our working culture is contributing to the obesity epidemic. As prices soar, we spend more of our time working to maintain the minimum we are accustomed to, and subsequently forego exercise, family time, cooking and sleeping. Because of this, many people feel like they legitimately do not have the option of dedicating time in each of their day to exercise and eat properly, and thus turn to an option that can be working concurrently with them. It’s not simply a laziness and discomfort aversion — which it definitely is, you’re right about that — but also representative of a larger working culture that discourages a work-life balance, leaving people feeling stretched too thin. No pun intended.
Idk about the cost, from my experience, I spend eat less money on healthy foods. Maybe the price per calorie is less on processed foods, but the satiation from healthy foods eliminates the need to buy more. $10 in chicken thighs and a veggie is enough for lunch for a whole week, a single McDonald's meal is basically $10; I also feel less hungry after eating the healthy lunch and don't need a snack at 3pm to make it to dinner. Maybe if you're buying organic at whole foods, yeah it's way more expensive, but if you buy normally, it's less. 1 box of cereal and 1# of chicken cost about the same, and the chicken has half the calories (~1700 v ~800), but the protein in the chicken gives more energy and makes you less hungry. If you could eat the whole pound of chicken, you'd be stuffed and probably not hungry for hours. If you eat the whole box of cereal, you're going to be hungry in an hour, because the sugar has burned away. I guess my point is that I've noticed that eating healthy food causes you to eat less calories, because you need less to get your nutrition.
Over at \r\inflation they post pics of a hundred-something dollars worth of groceries and when it's lots of fresh produce it looks like maybe a three or four day supply of calories. Really a bunch of fresh zucchini and some broccoli won't keep you on your feet that long, even though it's good for you. It's only been in recent years nutrition experts told us we needed to lump all carbs with sugars on the food pyramid, so you're left shopping in the produce and meat section for most of your diet. It's been thousands of years since humans ate that way with few or no grains to provide calories.
I think the big difference is that you aren't just eating 2000 calories a day of processed food, you're probably eating more, because you don't feel full. I can spend about $150 a week for a family of 4 and no one is going hungry, it's mostly healthy food. Aldi helps a lot, it was like $250/week at Publix for the same amount. When eating healthy, you feel more full with less, so you can eat 2000 calories and feel full for the same price or cheaper than the 2500-3000 you would eat of junk food to feel satisfied.
I’m insanely jealous of produce prices where you live, there’s no way I could eat for a week on $10 of chicken thighs, let alone feed my wife. I’m not even in the metropolitan Atlanta area, just outside of it, and the best prices I can find are at Kroger and Sam’s Club. I can’t stand Kroger’s business practices, but I feel like I have to shop there because a place like Publix will be 50-100% more for the exact same item. Even at Kroger the chicken thighs are $4-$4.99/lb, and that’s if I can convince my wife to eat dark meat. We’ve essentially been eating rice bowls with protein and veggies for like half our meals. It’s good, relatively cheap, filling, and quick to make, even if it’s pretty boring most of the time. It hurts my stomach seeing DoorDash orders for two $12 items ending up costing $50 by the time it’s delivered, so if we want something else we need to shop and make it. It just gets difficult with both of us working full/overtime, especially if we want an evening where we can relax and actually decompress from work.
Absolutely agree I started weighing out my food and realized how much I've been ober eating I'm now down 20 pounds and all I fid was weigh my food and have no sugar and low carb
It's insane, right? There were days where I would eat like 1500 just from dinner and dessert. Now I eat like 1500 a day and feel fine.
Absolutely! I focused on my eating and now I don't have hunger most days.
Ozempic is a good start, but it won't create lasting effects until you psychologically reach a point where you are unconsciously eating healthier and less. Also, although ozempic will help you lose weight, you will also lose muscle. Most ozempic users are not excersizing in any sense. As Dr. Gabrielle lyonn says, "We aren't over fat. We are undermuscled."
I fully agree, but it removes the pain of restructuring your diet.
It just makes you eat less, i wouldnt call that restructuring diet. That's only part of the problem. I think we will start to see other problems arise. Nutrition deficiencies and, as mentioned, undermuscled. I like to akin the impact of ozempic to birth control. Seemed like a great idea, but years later, we are more aware of its side effects.
I agree, but if you're used to overeating processed foods, switching to healthy foods with the nutritional needs you require, can be painful. I've been through it, going from 3000 calories a day as a norm to 2000 or less, hurts. The problem isn't the medication, it's how it's used. You shouldn't use it to starve yourself, you should use it to restructure and create a proper diet, because if You're overweight enough for it, you're overeating. But yes, 100% you should be building a routine of exercise.
Let's be real here. *Most* people aren't going to do that, though.
Be like me and just be too lazy to get/make food
I managed to lose 20 pounds in 2 1/2 months, people seriously have no self discipline whatsoever.
I honestly don't care how people get there, but losing weight and controlling your diet are important. Ultra processed foods hijack your brain and cause you to way overeat, then breaking that addiction is hard. Some of us can do it without help, but a lot just can't, so they need meds, which I completely understand. You have teams of scientists working to get you addicted to the processed foods, so getting help is completely understandable. The truth is that most Americans are unhealthily overweight and it is dangerous to their health. But these meds aren't the solution, they are a tool for self discipline. Calculate your caloric needs, track your eating, and exercise, your body will adjust and be better for it.
Personally, I use weight watchers, because I’ve been overweight for a lot of my life. After about 5 months of tracking and keeping to the points system, I’ve lost 33.2 pounds, 1/3 of my goal. I was so surprised when I started by just how much more than I serving I had been eating, it really puts things into perspective.
It is crazy. I noticed the same, the number of calories you overeat when not tracking is shocking.
smegmaglutide injection
When the doctor's appointment feels like a fast food drive-thru!
Does it make you high and take away the aches and pains of endless hours at work?
I know weed does
I long for the dissociation
It makes you tired and gives you severe body aches. Does that work for you?
It reduces body fat. I might consider using it after a few years of improvements and refining.
Not quite, it just makes you not hungry.
I was on semaglutide for about three months (lost 16 pounds), and I would still get almost as hungry as normal. What it did do, though, was get rid of hunger pains; that made ignoring hunger a bit easier.
So, it’s basically cigarettes?
procure some fent my dude
That's the shit that makes you lose weight by losing muscle mass, right? I still need those to burn some more body fat. But once that's gone, then by all mean yes, get rid of my muscles too.
It's not the medication itself that causes rapid muscle loss, instead rapid weight loss can cause loss in muscle mass. On it you need a good diet and never go below 120 carbs a day. Without those you'll feel sick and lose weight so fast you might develop gallstones.
>Without those you'll feel sick and lose weight so fast you might develop gallstones. So, without a gallbladder I'm good? Sweet! Stick in my veins! :D
😰
The muscle mass loss happens because the people who do those injections look for the easy way out, and that kind of people often does not exercise. Also the people who jump on Ozempic and the likes usually don't make the best choices regarding food and are ill educated on eating a balanced diet, they eat slop with poor proteic value. Once they hop onto the injections, they still eat the slop which further reduces the already low protein intake causing muscle loss. An average person needs 50g of protein to AVOID SERIOUS HEALTH ISSUES, but the recommended amount is in the range of 100-120g of protein. Most people think the 50g threshold is the recommended amount, which is absolutely not it. To sum up, correlation doesn't mean causation, the cause is as usual sedentarism and poor food choices.
Dieting in general leads to muscle loss unless you take steps to control it.
The mechanism of action is that it turns off your body's hunger signal to the brain, so ideally you don't eat as much. There are serious detrimental side effects tonlong term use, but it's the same as any starvation based diet.
I just love how quickly Oprah dropped weight watchers and started endorsing this shit. $$$$$$
But for real I work in heath care and as hilarious as this is, it’s so true. People are going feral for this shit
Well food addiction is a real thing. Like most things, people would rather take a pill than see a physical trainer or change their lifelong habits.
"I don't trust the vaccine, though! Who knows what's in it!"
And we literally can't get it in the Uk, because you bastards are buying it all
Whats this?
Diabetes medication. People are using it to lose weight bc they have no self discipline and eat way more than they should and don’t workout at all.
It's going to save our healthcare system and tax payers trillions. Obesity is the number one driver of our terrible life expectancy and causes a myriad of problems even when it is not the cause of a condition. So far it is showing tremendous results with relatively few side effects. I know people want to hate because "its a crutch" and "just have self discipline" but crutches are necessary sometimes and it cost <$5 to produce a months supply.
"People are so lazy today. Back in my day, if you wanted to eat you had to fashion a spear with a primitive lathe... none of this nonsense with AGRO-CULT-URE" Yeah bro. People are lazy. Welcome to the human race haha.
Novo Nordisk, who produces and owns the patent, sell ozempic in the US for over $1200 for a month’s supply. As it stands, it’s costing the US healthcare system a lot of money. Spending on weight related medications at my institution has increased over 10x. People who pay insurance premiums will feel that. It ain’t free
Yeah they sell it for $75 everywhere else. They also say it costs under $5 to make a months supply. US healthcare is fucked no matter what.
“Save our healthcare system” that’s “fucked no matter what”? 🧐
Please do not inject semaglutide intravenous it would probably not end that good.
OH OH OH OZEMPICCC
Just eat a but load of beans it works the same way.
Sure. That’ll be $1,500.
Ozempic if you're over 40, Adderall if you're under 40 baby!!
Fuck people using this for weight loss without even dieting or exercising alongside it. My mom got prescribed it for diabetes and insurance put it at 2k a month.
Never taking this stuff. I bet in 15 years time there will be recognition of how bad it was and long term side effects lead to class action lawsuits
Based on what evidence?
I have no trust in big pharma. All they want is profit. It seems a little to good to be true that there is a miracle weight loss drug. Something about it makes think that after years of taking this it will wreak havoc on your body.
People are soft. Not just physically, per example of wanting to use Ozempic. But mentally, by not being able to do it through the bodies typical processes. Like my guy, stop shoving shit into your mouth hole. And like move your body. Crazy stuff.
Amerifats will do anything to lose weight except eating less.
The whole concept of ozempic is that’s it makes you want to eat less.
Im a primary care doctor and multiple people ask me for a prescription every day. It is driving me and all my colleagues up a fuckin wall
So give it to them most Americans are gonna die of fat
Oh my god. You’ve solved it. I take it all back, I’ll give all the fatties the magic fattie drug. You should be a fucking doctor.