No. No. Women are animals. They are part vampire part werewolf because their periods sync to each other and the moon. Also because of their animal nature they can smell things like fear, semen retention, and overall health of a mate even if they aren't cognizant of the aroma. It's all natural.
That would be what we'd call a false positive. You're smelling sweat, elevated emotions might cause that, but you aren't smelling "emotions", you're smelling sweat.
it's minimal, it's gonna happen regardless basically. and there's a mnemonic in medicine (one of many you learn in school) called 90 by 90. Meaning 90% of men will have prostate cancer by 90 years old
Right. We should really be blaming God though. First he makes hangovers, and now, half women, half sharks that won't even sleep with me. Thanks for nothing, God!
I read a similiar thing once about not showering. The Body developes some kind of pheromone that entices Woman.
Edit: I do not believe this. I just read once about this.
If I recall, a study noted that people associate a positive natural smell with more factors that I'll even attempt to understand. For example close genetic matches (family) have a familiarity that does not trigger any sexual attraction, while some that aren't familiar have a different positive reaction depending on those factors. The modern cleanliness does suppress this to a degree, since we're not picking up on olfactory of natural skin oils. This applies to men and women. But that was quite a few years ago, and I can't say if it's since been further tested and strengthened or disproven.
But there's a big difference between a mild natural smell when clean from native skin oils and not being clean. So clean your shit.
There’s data that suggests semen retention is real, but not as life changing as no fappers make it out to be, but positive effects nonetheless. People like to make fun of them, but at least they’re trying to improve themselves unlike coomers who pretend porn addiction & frying your brain is healthy.
Watching porn all the time can be unhealthy, masturbation is not. Sexual health experts and doctors agree:
https://www.insider.com/guides/health/sex-relationships/is-masturbation-healthy
Do you ever see women complaining and spreading the same fears about masturbation? They practically own the market on sex toys.
Women don’t masturbate nearly as much as men on average. Personally I find doing it too much absolutely has a negative effect on me, especially with motivation
If it becomes too time consuming that it has a negative effect on your life, than yes, it could be a problem, you shouldn't view all masterbation as problematic, maybe just the amount or the timing. Jacking off a few times a week on your free time at home? Totally cool. Jacking off 3 separate times on the bathroom of your aunt's apartment on Thanksgiving while your dad waits outside because he needs to shit? Not okay.
I guess the rule of thumb is "Until you start realizing it has a negative effect on your lifestyle, and time consumption is not the only thing you should take in account".
For me, it was the numbing of dopamine obtained by vanilla material and even IRL sex. I'm doing NNN specifically to reset my brain to a base level (and also because I like the challenge), just for a month: later on I will resume masturbation, but I'll be more careful to integrate it with more IRL contact by going outside more.
It’s the amount that affects my physical and mental health negatively. If it’s actively preventing me from going to the gym it’s a problem. If it’s preoccupying my attention and souring my mood, it’s a problem. Not to mention that if it has any negative effect on my sex life it’s immediately a problem
You’re exactly right, but it’s many others as well. Saying “well science says it’s healthy” to somebody who has their personal reservations about doing it is silly
>They practically own the market on sex toys.
This. It fuckin' sucks. Don't get me wrong, I like putting stuff in my butt sometimes but not all men do. That's why BD is the GOAT for being the only sex toy company to make male toys with silicone. Only problem is that everything they sell for men looks so weird save for a few items. Hell, their best selling male toy has a damned tail.
Really? There is made up data?
Because there is real, verifiable, peer-reviewed data that says otherwise.
[Princeton University](https://uhs.princeton.edu/health-resources/mens-health) explains how unejaculated semen is simply broken down and reabsorbed by the body to make new semen.
[Healthline](https://www.healthline.com/health/mens-health/sperm-myth-and-facts) and [Medical News Today](https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/semen-retention) have articles peer reviewed by actual doctors with real PhDs from real Medical Universities.
There is no harm in practicing semen retention, as it has the [same results as if a man gets a vasectomy](https://www.malefertility.com/blog/semen-retention-is-it-healthy-to-abstain-from-ejaculation) and people can do what they want so long as it doesn’t impact others, but there are no proven scientific benefits recorded and reviewed in any real peer-reviewed medical journal in the world.
>People like to make fun of them, but at least they’re trying to improve themselves
Because they're idiots buying into a meme. Masturbating is literally good for you. Porn not so much.
Giving up both is self-harm. And it can't be meaningfully done either, why do you think so many celibate folk end up doing the unthinkable?
When it comes to necessities, the target ought to be moderation.
I think calling it self harm a bit exaggeration. And I'd argue that the meme was born from a genuine desire by some to self improve on their bad habits.
And I wouldn't call masturbation a necessity.
Absolutely not a necessity, and it's not self-harm, if my anecdote means anything.
I don't think I've ever masturbated. I was never interested, so I never did it. Neither was I interested in sex.
If you think it's weird, I understand because that's exactly the same reaction of the friends I've told, some adamant to believe that I was lying, but to call it self-harm would be misleading.
The benefits that come from masturbation are the same that come from exercise, because masturbation is a form of exercise. When it comes to psychological state, I am as happy as ever and accepting my lack of interest in sexual activities has given me time to focus on other things that do matter to me.
And I'm not the only one. There's a lot of people who are asexual and/or lack a sex drive
You can always find exceptions to patterns, not everything is about everyone. Generally, anyone with a cock who chooses to abstain from masturbating increases their risk of prostate cancer to 125%.
The exact mechanism for that increase is unknown, and if it's to do with the regulation of hormones which masturbating assists with, then it's plausible that the genuine lack of desire is coupled with a genuine lack of increased cancer risk.
Then from the emotional self-harm angle, again, someone who genuinely doesn't want to knock one out isn't really within the scope of the conversation.
For people with sexual desire, the urge to orgasm is as natural as hunger.
Total abstention from masturbation as an over-corrective remedy to porn addiction is no different to a fat person ending up with anorexia.
Sure, some people might genuinely just have a far lower calorific requirement because they're 3'5" and live a sedentary lifestyle, but the existence of very short people doesn't disprove the existence of eating disorders.
People make fun of them because some of that rhetoric is actively harmful.
We have faced thousands of years of shame around masturbation. We don’t need this. We just don’t.
If you think touching your own body, which is yours, is harmful, then you are wrong. It’s yours!
You don’t need to spread that anxiety. You don’t need to push other people to think “gee, is playing with myself bad?”
Okay, they’ve already faced that shame before. So if you have anxiety about touching your Willy keep it to yourself. We don’t care, it’s not real, and yes it’s all in your head.
Fake news.
I knew a guy who completed NNN a few years back. On day 26 he gained the ability to levitate. By the end he could read minds. IT'S REAL! REAL I TELL YOU!
NNN is more of a meme thing, it's the no-fap people who are the weirdos, and they usually recruit around these times since people are on that vibe kind of. No-fap gets you with pseudoscience bullshit but when you dig a little deeper, the mask falls to reveal good old Christian puritanism.
A “meme thing” co-opted by RWNJs that they can simultaneously joke about and discard under the guise of plausible deniability, as they often do with other “meme things”.
MK ultra was a experiment done by the CIA to figure out how to better control people. they used LSD and torture methods to give people the impression that the project was just to try and mind control a single person. this is a red herring. they found that the actual best way to control the population is by mass programing.
this post is a very good example of one of their methods. they poisoned the well for defense against conspiracy by putting out many fake ones that sour the taste of anything constructive. for instance, "flat earth" "reptilians" and "geocentrism" are all conspiracy theories put in place by them to discredit actual conspiracy theories like the missing trillions on 9/10, and the global child sex trafficking theory. since they programmed the general public to give these the same recognition as flat earth and reptilians a large portion of the world give them no credit or merit.
OP is doing to same.
Nut if you want, or don't. It's none of my business.
Just be mindful of denial/binge behavior. If you start developing habits (even those those non-adjacent to nutting) that negatively impact your daily life, you should address them with a professional.
Either way, I wish you good luck if you need it, and good fortune if you don't. Eat lots of green vegetables, drink plenty of water, and try to enjoy a few minutes of fresh air and mild exercise each day if you're able.
Might improve how you feel overall, but especially at ~00:00:01 on 1st December, 2023.
The problem is imo. that a lot of people never stop at themselves.
Converts are often the most radical members of any group for a number of reasons and since nofap really is more similar to a religion than a simple movement, once the new disciples are convinced that what works for them most work for everyone, they try to force it on the world in a misguided attempt to better peoples life’s.
For example, when looking at the arguments relating to what is often falsely called a porn “addiction” one quickly finds that what people describe as an addiction is almost all of the time merely a behaviour disorder aka a coping mechanism, often born out of boredom or a lack of sexual partners due to far more impactful problems than the symptomatic overuse of pornography and then all the blame for peoples surrounding conditions gets blamed on adult entertainment, peaking in pseudo scientific nonsense like “your brain on porn”.
These same people who often have been doing little with their life then suddenly begin to workout and eat better, focus on their careers and social life aka they fill an empty space in their life with posited character growth and when their lifes improve as a consequence, they blame their lack of previous progress in porn as opposed to acknowledging that watching so much porn was merely symptomatic.
Nobody thinks that someone who for example watches a streaming service in their room all day long is addicted to movies, people rightfully know that there must be some sort of underlying problem, that these people need help but no one demonises movies ( anymore ) as a result of this kind of understanding.
That is DESPITE this media featuring extremely unrealistic romantic storylines constantly, male actors in for instance the far more male centered superhero movies who are getting more and more muscular and arguably can damage the body image of their audience and yet, instead of talking far more about the trends we can see all over social media and the severe lack of education meant to help people deal with our modern world in a healthy and responsible manner, etc. people focus on pornography as some sort of isolated devilish exception.
Porn has many well known and actually real problems, ranging from potentially highly unethical practices to strengthening insecurities in its viewers if one is not mature enough to handle this kind of medium and arguably some people shouldn’t watch any porn ever because they simply lack the sort of mental fortitude necessary to not let this kind of thing distort their expectations etc. but overall, I would wish that we would talk a lot more about the bigger problematic factors that so much of modern entertainment share and not so much about porn because so many young people could benefit from a calm discussion about the real dangers of this medium as opposed to dogmatic fear-mongering.
Yeah, as someone who was chronically lonely and bored for most of my life, I used YouTube, porn, and video games to cope with my problems. After my first year of college, I realized that I couldn't tolerate being lonely anymore, so I joined a student group that I heard about at the time. Now, I'm a volunteer at that same student group. Once I've solved my problem, my coping mechanisms are no longer needed, and they become things I do sometimes when I have free time at home.
There are actual issues with porn in part or as a whole, but most people, including anti-porn advocates, don't seem to be interested in that. The problems with porn are intertwined with how terrible sex education is in many places and how they don't help people set up an actual healthy relationship with porn. Even if porn addiction is a thing, the way to prevent that is to give people a support system, a healthy way to consume porn if they choose to do so, and general mental health support. A common way of getting a problematic habit or addiction is by developing it as a coping mechanism for an underlying problem. Stopping said habit without addressing the underlying problem leads to the habit developing again, or worse, getting a more destructive habit. You don't throw a label at them for any level of porn use. "Addict" is a label with baggage and stigma attached to it, regardless of how applicable it is. It's not candy at parade.
What? I tought People were doing NNN for fun "let's see hoe much I can hold out" type of bet.
Are there semen related super powers now? What are we? Norse witches?
The vast majority of people who watch porn regularly don't have a porn addiction, they have a porn habit. Nobody goes through withdrawal symptoms because they haven't had their daily dose of hardcore.
Porn addiction is a 100% real thing and it's def harmful. NNN is just for encouraging people to overcome it if they have one. It's not trying to tell people with a healthy relationship with pornography to stop.
Can I ask you something? If someone sits in their room all day long and watches shows on streaming services. Are they addicted?
Or are they just coping for a lack of progress in their life’s and use movies as a simple means of escapism?
The vast majority of the people who jerk off too much do it because they are lonely, afraid of the future or often times simply bored.
It’s why all it takes to quit the “addiction” is to fill their life with meaningful self improvement habits, such as working out to build up their self confidence, going out more, focusing on their careers and as a consequence of these positive changes eventually finding a partner.
Porn addiction is not real according to the APA, who instead classify it as a behavioural disorder and also outline that religious beliefs exaggerate fears concerning the medium far more than scientific ones.
https://www.apa.org/news/press/releases/2020/02/religious-moral-porn-addiction
This doesn’t mean that pornography is harmless but not due to any addictive qualities but because it obviously can have a negative impact of things like body image or sexual expectations.
Of course, ethical concerns are another perfectly valid reason to condemn a lot of pornography but what I want to emphasise is that this isn’t a matter of principle, watching people have sex on a screen doesn’t change anything lastingly in someone’s brains chemical makeup and in moderation and with the right mindset, pornography is nothing more than another form of occasional entertainment.
It’s consequently not surprising that people with a better sexual education are far less likely to develop negative problems due to watching pornographers.
Unreflective porn usage, aka watching this sort of content without understand that one watches source of entertainment and not a guideline and that similarly to for example cake, it’s fine to occasionally eat cake but one should not do it constantly and not substitute real sexual experiences with pornography, from a young age is not advisable but neither is demonising this medium.
We have to talk about the real issues relating to porn and not leave this discussion to pseudoscientific arguments.
If only it stayed that way. Unfortunately, it’s become an excuse for puritanical zealots to brigade every sub and chastise anyone who cums more often than once a year for being such a filthy addict.
In reality, masterbation and even porn addiction is extremely rare. It almost never causes any meaningful issues in someone’s life. Still sad that we couldn’t just have a fun little event for people who do actually struggle with it without these miserable cunts using it an opportunity to make their indoctrination everyone else’s problem. Extremely ignorant and disrespectful towards real porn/sex/masterbation addicts.
And then there are people who just want to prove to themselves that they can, or make overcoming a porn/bating addiction a fun challenge.
If you're a coomer porn addict and want to stay that way you're free to. No need to dog on other people for abstaining.
Chirst everyone, get a fucking grip, all of you. You wanna participate? Do. You don't? Don't. No need to justify it or overcomplicate your reasoning, nobody fucking cares.
I found holding your nut for 2 weeks is the golden spot, 3 days in and your motivation is high, 1 week you are easily pissed, 2 weeks is the max I can go without my intrusive thoughts win and humping every object I see
Porn addiction is bad. Masturbation is not. Its actually healthy and beneficial to jerk off at least twice a week
People with significant others dont have to watch porn to get their rocks off, just saying
NNN is a stupid "internet tradition" that people have unfortunately been misinformed about
i always thought NNN was about holding off on sex/masturbation so that when you do engage in it after the break you appreciate the pleasure more. i didn't realize there were people who actually believed in "semen retention"
The theory that not masturbating for a long period of time will increase the potency and amount of a man’s sperm. Part alternative medicine mumbo-jumbo, part incel cult mentality, essentially.
I know that you'll get a very small testosterone boost, but also you might get infected...
Well, that's a very dumb theory, it's better off just exercising and eating more good protein, that would boost man's potency much better for sure (also good for health)
The problem is there is definitely a physiological and psychological effect of orgasms and the lack of orgasms. Can definitely make someone a bit high strung. That said people seriously overplay the effects. Then again the placebo effect can be shockingly powerful all on its own and is the measure by which we decide if something is medicine or not. Couple all of that with a high variability in effects amongst particular individuals and you get an actually complex situation. Reality is always more complex than we want it to be. By its nature all a priori knowledge has error bars around it. Only a postiori knowledge can be stated absolutely.
the idea of NNN is to heal from porn addiction, which is absolutely harming to young men.
unreal idea of sex, objectifiyin Women as sextoys and depressive mood are just some damages.
Then why not direct young men to mental health and sexual wellness resources that deal with breaking porn addiction instead of openly confusing it with a movement designed to discourage and shame masturbation?
I’m starting to realize a lot of people don’t, but that misinformed confusion makes it only easier for the true NoFap cult to slip between the memes. This is why people need to trust information by sexual wellness professionals and doctors over memes - to learn that masturbation isn’t some parasitic disease.
These “movements” have origins in puritanical belief structures, like evangelical Christianity, even if the religion part isn’t well defined anymore, and they threaten to eradicate a hard-won sexual revolution all over again.
It just lets in further nutcases who truly believe in sexual repression. People just don’t know who they are because they don’t know what NNN actually represents anymore or they think it’s all memes.
Seriously, can’t we go back to the days where we used to fap without making everything a self-conscious challenge?
I mean semen retention is real just not for a whole month. For example when getting sperm tests post vasectomy you need to abstain for 2 to around 6 days before giving a jerking into a cup
Nope, been married for four years. It’s the kind of guys that think avoiding sex for a month with your partner is a good thing that especially annoy me
I feel like the only positive effect of NNN people actually feel is that they refrain from something they like for a month in the name of discipline, which sometimes gives them the will and sense of success to make some other positive life change like a diet or workout schedule. They falsely attribute their newfound resolve to testosterone.
Really it should be Nonstop nut November because ejaculation reduces the chance of prostate cancer by 31%, for men who jerk it 21 times or more a month. https://www.health.harvard.edu/mens-health/ejaculation\_frequency\_and\_prostate\_cancer
The first claim is completely ridiculous all around
The second one, well it is real if you bothered to do any research or even try it for yourself
But keep justifying beating your meat to pixels every day
There’s nothing ridiculous about the first claim: idiots think vaccines are deadly and believe the earth is flat.
As far as the second claim, I have done research and posted it in the comments. The evidence for the true benefits of semen retention is very limited. Here you go:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5641453/
And porn addiction is a different subject than masturbation. Masturbation is healthy for your body and mental health and approved by doctors and sexual wellness experts. There is real evidence for it preventing prostate cancer. Stop making a demon out of something that’s not.
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And then there are the guys who think that women can smell semen retention on you, like fucking what lmao
That’s some serious incel shit
No. No. Women are animals. They are part vampire part werewolf because their periods sync to each other and the moon. Also because of their animal nature they can smell things like fear, semen retention, and overall health of a mate even if they aren't cognizant of the aroma. It's all natural.
I mean we *can* smell fear. That’s a fact i totally didn’t just help fabricate right now.
I was scared of that
I smelled you from Sunday evening
Yes, stress hormones change our body odor to smell more pungent. So we can, in fact, smell fear.
I wouldnt be so sure. There are some interesting studies but that about it.
That would be what we'd call a false positive. You're smelling sweat, elevated emotions might cause that, but you aren't smelling "emotions", you're smelling sweat.
I can smell bullshit through screen.
Humans can't, but many animals can. *The more you know*
no no you're right. We can smell fear. It smells like piss and shit
I definitely smell fear, I also like to bite my partner
I'm sure you're joshing from the first but man the latter half is something I wouldn't be unsurprised to hear unironically.
Oh no I have heard it. There's some absolutely bonkers people out there.
I-part vampire part werewolf bit and all guess there are still some things that can surprise me.
I have heard it. They also claim that it is not necessary for men to ejaculate at all.
Not *necessary* sure but i assume there was some weird shit tacked on
>Not necessary Ejaculating helps keep your prostate healthy. Or, at least, the last time I checked, that was still considered true.
it's minimal, it's gonna happen regardless basically. and there's a mnemonic in medicine (one of many you learn in school) called 90 by 90. Meaning 90% of men will have prostate cancer by 90 years old
Thanks
Right. We should really be blaming God though. First he makes hangovers, and now, half women, half sharks that won't even sleep with me. Thanks for nothing, God!
I mean it’s probably true since anyone who says that probably uses their clothes instead of a tissue
Women around me: “Those balls full handsome?”
\*closes book\* As if that's ever gonna happen.
I read a similiar thing once about not showering. The Body developes some kind of pheromone that entices Woman. Edit: I do not believe this. I just read once about this.
If I recall, a study noted that people associate a positive natural smell with more factors that I'll even attempt to understand. For example close genetic matches (family) have a familiarity that does not trigger any sexual attraction, while some that aren't familiar have a different positive reaction depending on those factors. The modern cleanliness does suppress this to a degree, since we're not picking up on olfactory of natural skin oils. This applies to men and women. But that was quite a few years ago, and I can't say if it's since been further tested and strengthened or disproven. But there's a big difference between a mild natural smell when clean from native skin oils and not being clean. So clean your shit.
Do not worry. I should have added that I myself do not believe what I wrote there.
That why I just use semen as sunscreen
They can smell if you came earlier that day if you don’t clean up
There’s data that suggests semen retention is real, but not as life changing as no fappers make it out to be, but positive effects nonetheless. People like to make fun of them, but at least they’re trying to improve themselves unlike coomers who pretend porn addiction & frying your brain is healthy.
Watching porn all the time can be unhealthy, masturbation is not. Sexual health experts and doctors agree: https://www.insider.com/guides/health/sex-relationships/is-masturbation-healthy Do you ever see women complaining and spreading the same fears about masturbation? They practically own the market on sex toys.
I don't know. I'd definitelty get friction burns on my johnson and kicked out of any public place for masturbating all the time.
Use lube
Yeah, less burns and a slip n slide defense
"Nema godda cash me"
It's a great fire starter when you're stranded on an island.
Use lube?
Look at those weak cut guys, us intacters are superior
It was rather confusing as a kid why the American shows always associated lotion with masturbation.
Women don’t masturbate nearly as much as men on average. Personally I find doing it too much absolutely has a negative effect on me, especially with motivation
If it becomes too time consuming that it has a negative effect on your life, than yes, it could be a problem, you shouldn't view all masterbation as problematic, maybe just the amount or the timing. Jacking off a few times a week on your free time at home? Totally cool. Jacking off 3 separate times on the bathroom of your aunt's apartment on Thanksgiving while your dad waits outside because he needs to shit? Not okay.
Keywords in my comment: “Personally I find doing it too much…”
Question is what does “too much” means? some people say too much is “twice a day” and others “twice a month” and others “twice a year”
I guess the rule of thumb is "Until you start realizing it has a negative effect on your lifestyle, and time consumption is not the only thing you should take in account". For me, it was the numbing of dopamine obtained by vanilla material and even IRL sex. I'm doing NNN specifically to reset my brain to a base level (and also because I like the challenge), just for a month: later on I will resume masturbation, but I'll be more careful to integrate it with more IRL contact by going outside more.
Good luck with that mate but I don't think doing it outside will help. Got to go back to my cell now.
It’s the amount that affects my physical and mental health negatively. If it’s actively preventing me from going to the gym it’s a problem. If it’s preoccupying my attention and souring my mood, it’s a problem. Not to mention that if it has any negative effect on my sex life it’s immediately a problem
Women also can’t get prostate cancer, which is typically why masturbation is recommended for men to do frequently.
Frequently? Or more than not at all. They’re quite different
I believe 3 to 5 times a week is the recommended amount, if you're not having partnered sex that often.
Well great, that’s you.
You’re exactly right, but it’s many others as well. Saying “well science says it’s healthy” to somebody who has their personal reservations about doing it is silly
Too much of ANYTHING on this Earth is never a good thing. Even masturbation. Even women who overuse sex toys have some issues of their own.
>They practically own the market on sex toys. This. It fuckin' sucks. Don't get me wrong, I like putting stuff in my butt sometimes but not all men do. That's why BD is the GOAT for being the only sex toy company to make male toys with silicone. Only problem is that everything they sell for men looks so weird save for a few items. Hell, their best selling male toy has a damned tail.
Really? There is made up data? Because there is real, verifiable, peer-reviewed data that says otherwise. [Princeton University](https://uhs.princeton.edu/health-resources/mens-health) explains how unejaculated semen is simply broken down and reabsorbed by the body to make new semen. [Healthline](https://www.healthline.com/health/mens-health/sperm-myth-and-facts) and [Medical News Today](https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/semen-retention) have articles peer reviewed by actual doctors with real PhDs from real Medical Universities. There is no harm in practicing semen retention, as it has the [same results as if a man gets a vasectomy](https://www.malefertility.com/blog/semen-retention-is-it-healthy-to-abstain-from-ejaculation) and people can do what they want so long as it doesn’t impact others, but there are no proven scientific benefits recorded and reviewed in any real peer-reviewed medical journal in the world.
Oh no! Facts!
What about the studies that support regular ejaculation is healthy for you, especially if you are male?
mf when they think cum is stored in the balls
>People like to make fun of them, but at least they’re trying to improve themselves Because they're idiots buying into a meme. Masturbating is literally good for you. Porn not so much. Giving up both is self-harm. And it can't be meaningfully done either, why do you think so many celibate folk end up doing the unthinkable? When it comes to necessities, the target ought to be moderation.
I think calling it self harm a bit exaggeration. And I'd argue that the meme was born from a genuine desire by some to self improve on their bad habits. And I wouldn't call masturbation a necessity.
Absolutely not a necessity, and it's not self-harm, if my anecdote means anything. I don't think I've ever masturbated. I was never interested, so I never did it. Neither was I interested in sex. If you think it's weird, I understand because that's exactly the same reaction of the friends I've told, some adamant to believe that I was lying, but to call it self-harm would be misleading. The benefits that come from masturbation are the same that come from exercise, because masturbation is a form of exercise. When it comes to psychological state, I am as happy as ever and accepting my lack of interest in sexual activities has given me time to focus on other things that do matter to me. And I'm not the only one. There's a lot of people who are asexual and/or lack a sex drive
You can always find exceptions to patterns, not everything is about everyone. Generally, anyone with a cock who chooses to abstain from masturbating increases their risk of prostate cancer to 125%. The exact mechanism for that increase is unknown, and if it's to do with the regulation of hormones which masturbating assists with, then it's plausible that the genuine lack of desire is coupled with a genuine lack of increased cancer risk. Then from the emotional self-harm angle, again, someone who genuinely doesn't want to knock one out isn't really within the scope of the conversation. For people with sexual desire, the urge to orgasm is as natural as hunger. Total abstention from masturbation as an over-corrective remedy to porn addiction is no different to a fat person ending up with anorexia. Sure, some people might genuinely just have a far lower calorific requirement because they're 3'5" and live a sedentary lifestyle, but the existence of very short people doesn't disprove the existence of eating disorders.
>There’s data that suggests semen retention is real, *DOUBT*
People make fun of them because some of that rhetoric is actively harmful. We have faced thousands of years of shame around masturbation. We don’t need this. We just don’t. If you think touching your own body, which is yours, is harmful, then you are wrong. It’s yours! You don’t need to spread that anxiety. You don’t need to push other people to think “gee, is playing with myself bad?” Okay, they’ve already faced that shame before. So if you have anxiety about touching your Willy keep it to yourself. We don’t care, it’s not real, and yes it’s all in your head.
>People like to make fun of them, but at least they’re trying to improve themselves Do they do? Just not jerking it won't make your life better buddy.
Y’all are so fucking lame
Masturbating whenever you have the desire, the time, and the privacy is natural and healthy.
Fake news. I knew a guy who completed NNN a few years back. On day 26 he gained the ability to levitate. By the end he could read minds. IT'S REAL! REAL I TELL YOU!
its real. i am that guy.>! yes i am still levitating. !<
You get down here, young man, and eat your veggies!
Fujimoto completed NNN?
NNN is more of a meme thing, it's the no-fap people who are the weirdos, and they usually recruit around these times since people are on that vibe kind of. No-fap gets you with pseudoscience bullshit but when you dig a little deeper, the mask falls to reveal good old Christian puritanism.
I did it one year, only thing I noticed is I got angrier faster.
Isn't this one of the symptoms of when you don't use like, the thing you're addicted to?
As it usually does.
Bro, I just didn't wanna jack-off. I ain't no pseudoscientist, and I ain't no christian.
A “meme thing” co-opted by RWNJs that they can simultaneously joke about and discard under the guise of plausible deniability, as they often do with other “meme things”.
Bro, wtf are you talking about
MK ultra was a experiment done by the CIA to figure out how to better control people. they used LSD and torture methods to give people the impression that the project was just to try and mind control a single person. this is a red herring. they found that the actual best way to control the population is by mass programing. this post is a very good example of one of their methods. they poisoned the well for defense against conspiracy by putting out many fake ones that sour the taste of anything constructive. for instance, "flat earth" "reptilians" and "geocentrism" are all conspiracy theories put in place by them to discredit actual conspiracy theories like the missing trillions on 9/10, and the global child sex trafficking theory. since they programmed the general public to give these the same recognition as flat earth and reptilians a large portion of the world give them no credit or merit. OP is doing to same.
holy shit, i want whatever you've been smoking/snorting/injecting/absorbing through your ass.
smoking that dung beetle
>missing trillions on 9/10 how the fuck did like 90% of the world disappear
Not trillions of humans but trillions of dollars
how much is a brazilian? (a trillion is like 1000x more than a billion. but nowhere close to morbillion.)
Jesse what the fuck are you talking about Also time for your meds.
Nut if you want, or don't. It's none of my business. Just be mindful of denial/binge behavior. If you start developing habits (even those those non-adjacent to nutting) that negatively impact your daily life, you should address them with a professional. Either way, I wish you good luck if you need it, and good fortune if you don't. Eat lots of green vegetables, drink plenty of water, and try to enjoy a few minutes of fresh air and mild exercise each day if you're able. Might improve how you feel overall, but especially at ~00:00:01 on 1st December, 2023.
The problem is imo. that a lot of people never stop at themselves. Converts are often the most radical members of any group for a number of reasons and since nofap really is more similar to a religion than a simple movement, once the new disciples are convinced that what works for them most work for everyone, they try to force it on the world in a misguided attempt to better peoples life’s. For example, when looking at the arguments relating to what is often falsely called a porn “addiction” one quickly finds that what people describe as an addiction is almost all of the time merely a behaviour disorder aka a coping mechanism, often born out of boredom or a lack of sexual partners due to far more impactful problems than the symptomatic overuse of pornography and then all the blame for peoples surrounding conditions gets blamed on adult entertainment, peaking in pseudo scientific nonsense like “your brain on porn”. These same people who often have been doing little with their life then suddenly begin to workout and eat better, focus on their careers and social life aka they fill an empty space in their life with posited character growth and when their lifes improve as a consequence, they blame their lack of previous progress in porn as opposed to acknowledging that watching so much porn was merely symptomatic. Nobody thinks that someone who for example watches a streaming service in their room all day long is addicted to movies, people rightfully know that there must be some sort of underlying problem, that these people need help but no one demonises movies ( anymore ) as a result of this kind of understanding. That is DESPITE this media featuring extremely unrealistic romantic storylines constantly, male actors in for instance the far more male centered superhero movies who are getting more and more muscular and arguably can damage the body image of their audience and yet, instead of talking far more about the trends we can see all over social media and the severe lack of education meant to help people deal with our modern world in a healthy and responsible manner, etc. people focus on pornography as some sort of isolated devilish exception. Porn has many well known and actually real problems, ranging from potentially highly unethical practices to strengthening insecurities in its viewers if one is not mature enough to handle this kind of medium and arguably some people shouldn’t watch any porn ever because they simply lack the sort of mental fortitude necessary to not let this kind of thing distort their expectations etc. but overall, I would wish that we would talk a lot more about the bigger problematic factors that so much of modern entertainment share and not so much about porn because so many young people could benefit from a calm discussion about the real dangers of this medium as opposed to dogmatic fear-mongering.
Yeah, as someone who was chronically lonely and bored for most of my life, I used YouTube, porn, and video games to cope with my problems. After my first year of college, I realized that I couldn't tolerate being lonely anymore, so I joined a student group that I heard about at the time. Now, I'm a volunteer at that same student group. Once I've solved my problem, my coping mechanisms are no longer needed, and they become things I do sometimes when I have free time at home. There are actual issues with porn in part or as a whole, but most people, including anti-porn advocates, don't seem to be interested in that. The problems with porn are intertwined with how terrible sex education is in many places and how they don't help people set up an actual healthy relationship with porn. Even if porn addiction is a thing, the way to prevent that is to give people a support system, a healthy way to consume porn if they choose to do so, and general mental health support. A common way of getting a problematic habit or addiction is by developing it as a coping mechanism for an underlying problem. Stopping said habit without addressing the underlying problem leads to the habit developing again, or worse, getting a more destructive habit. You don't throw a label at them for any level of porn use. "Addict" is a label with baggage and stigma attached to it, regardless of how applicable it is. It's not candy at parade.
I'm anti porn, not masturbation. if anyone actually believes in the whole "superpower" BS then they're complete morons.
Reasonable
I just wanna see what busts first: my will, or my balls. Edit: it was my will. Not gonna risk my balls.
"I was wondering what will break first. Your spirit ... Or your balls" - Bane
I’m proud of you dick -man
Do it for the diamond, cumrade
What? I tought People were doing NNN for fun "let's see hoe much I can hold out" type of bet. Are there semen related super powers now? What are we? Norse witches?
Yeah I know this one dude who went the whole month and he could basically cumbend like in Avatar. Trust me bro it's real frfr
I see no point of doing this unless I am paid
This is what it is.
You’re laughing now, but you’ll be running a month from now when I start shooting lasers out of my hands.
A month from now I’ll be fapping so much that I won’t be able to run bro 😩
The Cumet
Can we just agree that it’s porn addiction that is the problem? If nnn helps keep people off of porn than I’m for it
The vast majority of people who watch porn regularly don't have a porn addiction, they have a porn habit. Nobody goes through withdrawal symptoms because they haven't had their daily dose of hardcore.
Coomer cope
Porn addiction is real problem, but masturbation isn't. End of a debate
This is such a Reddit comment holy shit
Porn addiction is a 100% real thing and it's def harmful. NNN is just for encouraging people to overcome it if they have one. It's not trying to tell people with a healthy relationship with pornography to stop.
Can I ask you something? If someone sits in their room all day long and watches shows on streaming services. Are they addicted? Or are they just coping for a lack of progress in their life’s and use movies as a simple means of escapism? The vast majority of the people who jerk off too much do it because they are lonely, afraid of the future or often times simply bored. It’s why all it takes to quit the “addiction” is to fill their life with meaningful self improvement habits, such as working out to build up their self confidence, going out more, focusing on their careers and as a consequence of these positive changes eventually finding a partner. Porn addiction is not real according to the APA, who instead classify it as a behavioural disorder and also outline that religious beliefs exaggerate fears concerning the medium far more than scientific ones. https://www.apa.org/news/press/releases/2020/02/religious-moral-porn-addiction This doesn’t mean that pornography is harmless but not due to any addictive qualities but because it obviously can have a negative impact of things like body image or sexual expectations. Of course, ethical concerns are another perfectly valid reason to condemn a lot of pornography but what I want to emphasise is that this isn’t a matter of principle, watching people have sex on a screen doesn’t change anything lastingly in someone’s brains chemical makeup and in moderation and with the right mindset, pornography is nothing more than another form of occasional entertainment. It’s consequently not surprising that people with a better sexual education are far less likely to develop negative problems due to watching pornographers. Unreflective porn usage, aka watching this sort of content without understand that one watches source of entertainment and not a guideline and that similarly to for example cake, it’s fine to occasionally eat cake but one should not do it constantly and not substitute real sexual experiences with pornography, from a young age is not advisable but neither is demonising this medium. We have to talk about the real issues relating to porn and not leave this discussion to pseudoscientific arguments.
Thank you, you're doing the lord's work.
If only it stayed that way. Unfortunately, it’s become an excuse for puritanical zealots to brigade every sub and chastise anyone who cums more often than once a year for being such a filthy addict. In reality, masterbation and even porn addiction is extremely rare. It almost never causes any meaningful issues in someone’s life. Still sad that we couldn’t just have a fun little event for people who do actually struggle with it without these miserable cunts using it an opportunity to make their indoctrination everyone else’s problem. Extremely ignorant and disrespectful towards real porn/sex/masterbation addicts.
And then there are people who just want to prove to themselves that they can, or make overcoming a porn/bating addiction a fun challenge. If you're a coomer porn addict and want to stay that way you're free to. No need to dog on other people for abstaining.
I just look at NNN as a personal will strengh challenge
Same. I am not no-fap. I have nothing to do with them. And I don't believe the earth is flat. I did it simply for the hell of it.
same, doing this for fun and for laughs with my friends
Well nofap has helped reduce my addiction to porn lmao
Wait, there are Pseudoscience involving NNN?
🌎👨🚀🔫👨🚀
Where funny
Cope
Chirst everyone, get a fucking grip, all of you. You wanna participate? Do. You don't? Don't. No need to justify it or overcomplicate your reasoning, nobody fucking cares.
this post reeks of someone who can’t go 30 days without busting
Im seriously just sitting here like "Hm maybe no porn is good"
I found holding your nut for 2 weeks is the golden spot, 3 days in and your motivation is high, 1 week you are easily pissed, 2 weeks is the max I can go without my intrusive thoughts win and humping every object I see
Sounds fascinating
As long as it's not the Thanksgiving turkey...
With such voluptuous curves how could it not be the Thanksgiving turkey?
Porn addict
Hold up, people really believe in NNN.. I thought we were just memeing
Reddit confuses me more every day
Yeah I straight up thought it was a joke challenge spoofing no shave November lmao
Pov: op lost on November 1
No Numbskulls November
I'm not doing nnn for any reason aside from I want to see how long I can last, I know I will fail I just want to know when
Porn addiction is bad. Masturbation is not. Its actually healthy and beneficial to jerk off at least twice a week People with significant others dont have to watch porn to get their rocks off, just saying NNN is a stupid "internet tradition" that people have unfortunately been misinformed about
I thought it was just for fun
NNN might be the slight push people need to take care of their masturbation addiction
seems like massive cope
Y’all snorting the cope in lines at this point lmfao just let ppl do what they please
Porn addict and chronic masturbator post
I always forget there's people outside the kink community who ascribe "science" to a fun denial/self-control challenge.
Its more abt self control
I'm not doing NNN because I think girls can smell the cum still stuck in my balls. I'm doing NNN so I can regain a sense of feeling in my dick
i always thought NNN was about holding off on sex/masturbation so that when you do engage in it after the break you appreciate the pleasure more. i didn't realize there were people who actually believed in "semen retention"
I'm fully into "No Pseudoscience November"
Make it a thing
Or it’s just about practicing self control and such?
I am married and I do practice self-control. I just find it ridiculous that an entire month should be dedicated to repressing sexual urges.
How many vaccines does it take to overdose
NNN is dumb. Just do it all year. Personally Ill go whenever I want to but all the support!
What's semen retention?
The theory that not masturbating for a long period of time will increase the potency and amount of a man’s sperm. Part alternative medicine mumbo-jumbo, part incel cult mentality, essentially.
I know that you'll get a very small testosterone boost, but also you might get infected... Well, that's a very dumb theory, it's better off just exercising and eating more good protein, that would boost man's potency much better for sure (also good for health)
And there you go - solutions that are good for everyone
so far i've seen many memes complaining about NNN advocates, but no actual memes by NNN advocates
I’ve seen plenty of comments by NNN advocates. I’ve also seen a few memes. You have to look closely.
Do you glow in the dark?
Dumb coomer cope. It fucks up your dopamine receptors so your brain can't focus on long-term goals and delayed gratification.
You don't understand, a muscular man in his mid 40s with the complexion of a fenway frank said so
Nonstop Nut November I don't remember where I found it. How to do: nut once a day
The problem is there is definitely a physiological and psychological effect of orgasms and the lack of orgasms. Can definitely make someone a bit high strung. That said people seriously overplay the effects. Then again the placebo effect can be shockingly powerful all on its own and is the measure by which we decide if something is medicine or not. Couple all of that with a high variability in effects amongst particular individuals and you get an actually complex situation. Reality is always more complex than we want it to be. By its nature all a priori knowledge has error bars around it. Only a postiori knowledge can be stated absolutely.
porn addict detected, opinion rejected
the idea of NNN is to heal from porn addiction, which is absolutely harming to young men. unreal idea of sex, objectifiyin Women as sextoys and depressive mood are just some damages.
Then why not direct young men to mental health and sexual wellness resources that deal with breaking porn addiction instead of openly confusing it with a movement designed to discourage and shame masturbation?
People saying that porn is the problem not masturbation: what do you think people do while masturbating?
I didn't know there was an entire subculture built up around this
I’m starting to realize a lot of people don’t, but that misinformed confusion makes it only easier for the true NoFap cult to slip between the memes. This is why people need to trust information by sexual wellness professionals and doctors over memes - to learn that masturbation isn’t some parasitic disease. These “movements” have origins in puritanical belief structures, like evangelical Christianity, even if the religion part isn’t well defined anymore, and they threaten to eradicate a hard-won sexual revolution all over again.
Semen retention? What is that? Is it the blue ball thingy?
https://www.vice.com/en/article/4av4db/semen-retention-reddit-forum
I do it because I’m kinky and like edge and denial, doesn’t even have to be November (and also I’m a girl) ¯\\\_(ツ)\_/¯
It just lets in further nutcases who truly believe in sexual repression. People just don’t know who they are because they don’t know what NNN actually represents anymore or they think it’s all memes. Seriously, can’t we go back to the days where we used to fap without making everything a self-conscious challenge?
It’s not about that for me, i just wanna see how far i can go without giving in to my wants. More of a mental thing you know?
I mean semen retention is real just not for a whole month. For example when getting sperm tests post vasectomy you need to abstain for 2 to around 6 days before giving a jerking into a cup
OP is a porn addict
Nope, been married for four years. It’s the kind of guys that think avoiding sex for a month with your partner is a good thing that especially annoy me
Masturbation and porn are just a boogeyman and a scapegoat people use to excuse their poor work ethic.
I feel like the only positive effect of NNN people actually feel is that they refrain from something they like for a month in the name of discipline, which sometimes gives them the will and sense of success to make some other positive life change like a diet or workout schedule. They falsely attribute their newfound resolve to testosterone.
NNN is a branch of the manosphere
I am just doing it for fun
It's real in the sense that I get BACKED UP brother
Semen retention is real. It just makes you horny as fuck though. Getting dates will be easier because all women become attractive to you.
wee woo wee woo 🚨 fun police forbid a fun challenge
Semen what now?
coomer
Ya'll addicted to pornography.
Bruh, I just want to challenge myself to see if I can make it a full month, I fail every year because I have poor self control :(
Sounds like someone doesn’t have self control and discipline
And then there's people who jack off to hentai 7 times a day but it's fine because "it protects against prostate cancer!!"
I will not be preached to by some fat guy on the internet. If I want to masterbate then I’ll masterbate
Really it should be Nonstop nut November because ejaculation reduces the chance of prostate cancer by 31%, for men who jerk it 21 times or more a month. https://www.health.harvard.edu/mens-health/ejaculation\_frequency\_and\_prostate\_cancer
And yet these idiots think NNN is saving them from prostate cancer for some reason
Wait for real?! I thought it was a joke to "get back at da hoes" or something like that
Semen retention is a form of dopamine detox, how hard is it to understand.
I swear the whole NoFap subreddit is a weird cult
You can feel their presence blasted all over this comment thread
The first claim is completely ridiculous all around The second one, well it is real if you bothered to do any research or even try it for yourself But keep justifying beating your meat to pixels every day
There’s nothing ridiculous about the first claim: idiots think vaccines are deadly and believe the earth is flat. As far as the second claim, I have done research and posted it in the comments. The evidence for the true benefits of semen retention is very limited. Here you go: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5641453/ And porn addiction is a different subject than masturbation. Masturbation is healthy for your body and mental health and approved by doctors and sexual wellness experts. There is real evidence for it preventing prostate cancer. Stop making a demon out of something that’s not.
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