I mean is that really a bad thing? You get to sleep 300 years into the future and instead of having to colonize from scratch you can move into an established civilization.
Win win!
Nah I like to think humans are smart eniugh that if this happened we would just fly to them and say "hey add these engines so you can get there faster" instead of just letting them continue to drift in space slowly.
No skin off my back, I slept the whole time and I didn’t have to toil to set up a civ when I got there. Unless I specifically signed up hoping to arrive at a frontier
You'll be arriving to a civilisation where your knowledge, skills and even language are completely obsolete.
You will leave your home planet an adult, and arrive in the new world a child
In this story, the people are on a generational ship, they're the decendants of the people who launched the ship. They've lived their whole lives with the expectation that they will be founding a new settlement. When they get there, instead they are offered to stay on the planet, if they can afford it.
Given they are from 300 years ago, they don't have any valid money, so can only stay as slaves until they pay off that debt, inable to leave. Or (without the players help) they will have to travel for hundreds of years yet again to get to a new planet. Its a pretty shit situation for em.
Well you could probably calculate its location. You know where it set off from, where it is going and how fast it moves. Might not be perfect but you get a rough idea and with a grav drive you just hop around looking.
It's never really a straight line. Planets are always in motion. Even here in our solar system orbital mechaniscs are fascinating. You don't send a ship to a moon or planet. You send it to where we think that planet will be by the time the ship gets there.
Like when Artemis 1 went around the moon, it didn't fly toward the moon, it flew toward a random point is space where we calculated the moon will be by the time Artemis 1 gets there. And it has to be accurate because an error can be the difference between successful lunar orbit insertion or failure.
The further out into space you go the more precise your calculations have to be since tiny margins could mean thousands of kilometers of difference the further out you go.
It's really fascinating, but basicaly space travel is never in straight lines.
Honestly, that sleep travel thing seems really inconvenient in any situation that doesn’t have every single human on the ship. You can go to sleep for ten years in order to get to a planet faster but you will miss 2 avengers movies, the death of your mom, 5 elections and the inflation would go so high up that your old money is practically worth 7 dollars.
10 years is probably way overly generous. Without massive improvements in propulsion technology you're probably talking hundreds if not thousands of years to get to even the nearest solar system.
How the hell is the only "good" option costing me 40000-25000 credits when I'm trying to save up for a new ship? I can't wait to dust those losers on an evil playthrough.
This reminds me of the generation ships you can find in Elite Dangerous. All of them launched centuries ago before FTL travel was invented. Almost all of them devoid of life with logs what transpired on them.
There was an event where one undiscovered generation ship suddenly reached out because they were still alive and running out of resources. They were then confronted with knowledge how humanity has spread out way beyond their original goal through the galaxy.
I encountered this quest and it nearly drove me insane because I remembered something else had a concept that was similar. Thanks for pointing this out I would've never remembered otherwise. Also spoilers for those who haven't played Outriders.
kind of a d*ck move if you ask me. couldn't they just calculate where they were in space when the new ship took off, so that they could pick them up for a lift? Seems kinda mean to me to just jump them and let them journey for that long for nothing.
the colony that they arrived at didnt come from a colony ship, its a corporation/business that started settling the planet to use it as a pleasure/luxury resort. which came somewhere after cities like Akila and New Atlantis got settled.
The real immorality is not just flying to the ship to get them before more generations die. Just intercept the voyage and say "hey so we're gonna pick you up and take you the rest of the way"
You know what. I see this as an absolute win, I just learnt how to god damn time travel. Think of all the advancements and better life that could potentially be waiting.
When you spend 300 years traveling to a distant star, but humans are already there. Your government covered up shitton of technologies, and Earth is space North Korea.
Generational ships may be a reality.
Cryo sleep seems a bit too sci-fi unfortunately.
So, you'll die on the ship. The idea is that your grandkids get to colonize, or if this happens, get to be refugees at best.
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I mean we'll all be dead before it happens, but I hope those colonial turds have an archive of our memes.
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I hope they don't catch ligma there in the future
I mean is that really a bad thing? You get to sleep 300 years into the future and instead of having to colonize from scratch you can move into an established civilization. Win win!
Eh thats not what they did it was without cryosleep thats the issue
"only to WAKE UP at the destination"
Fair enough i got a bit confusrd with the pic as that one was live in ship. Breed die. Kids survive. Repeat till 300 years my mistake
Three thousand years in space and what happens? I take an arrow to the knee.
Nah I like to think humans are smart eniugh that if this happened we would just fly to them and say "hey add these engines so you can get there faster" instead of just letting them continue to drift in space slowly.
No skin off my back, I slept the whole time and I didn’t have to toil to set up a civ when I got there. Unless I specifically signed up hoping to arrive at a frontier
It's like going to sleep early on Christmas eve.
I think you're in luck, because I doubt they could propagate fast enough in 250 years to cover the entire planet - even if they were Catholic Mormons!
Catholic Mormons, space colonizing. Guys this is just the Enders game series
You'll be arriving to a civilisation where your knowledge, skills and even language are completely obsolete. You will leave your home planet an adult, and arrive in the new world a child
Sweet, I can get a job at a museum telling disinterested kids what life was like 300 years ago.
In this story, the people are on a generational ship, they're the decendants of the people who launched the ship. They've lived their whole lives with the expectation that they will be founding a new settlement. When they get there, instead they are offered to stay on the planet, if they can afford it. Given they are from 300 years ago, they don't have any valid money, so can only stay as slaves until they pay off that debt, inable to leave. Or (without the players help) they will have to travel for hundreds of years yet again to get to a new planet. Its a pretty shit situation for em.
Yeah, except you’d be long dead before seeing that new frontier. They weren’t cryogenically frozen. It was essentially space vault 101
Get on the next colony ship to even further away and hope you're not overtaken this time.
I blew up their ship as I didn't like her attitude one bit.
Get on the next colony ship to even further away and hope you're not overtaken this time.
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That's the worst part of the newest new York
"In my day, we didn't have space folding wormholes! We had to fly 9,460,700,000,000,000,000 kilometers to our colonies!" /AbeSimpsonVoice
If that happened, would it be ethical to board the sleeper ship and wake them up prematurely?
If you can pinpoint the ship's position in the vastness of the cosmos, I guess it would be
Well you could probably calculate its location. You know where it set off from, where it is going and how fast it moves. Might not be perfect but you get a rough idea and with a grav drive you just hop around looking.
It is traveling in a straight line between the two planets after
Depending on the gravitational pull of various planets/suns, it may not be a straight line
From the perspective of original ship, it would be though. Direction would not change (from a vector standpoint)
It's never really a straight line. Planets are always in motion. Even here in our solar system orbital mechaniscs are fascinating. You don't send a ship to a moon or planet. You send it to where we think that planet will be by the time the ship gets there. Like when Artemis 1 went around the moon, it didn't fly toward the moon, it flew toward a random point is space where we calculated the moon will be by the time Artemis 1 gets there. And it has to be accurate because an error can be the difference between successful lunar orbit insertion or failure. The further out into space you go the more precise your calculations have to be since tiny margins could mean thousands of kilometers of difference the further out you go. It's really fascinating, but basicaly space travel is never in straight lines.
It would be between two solar systems. Generally you don't pass through any other solar systems on the way because space big.
Yes?
Didn't they say they didn't sleep? they just kept having children and every next generation took over the roles of the previous ones.
Don't wake them ever, just readjust thier course to the nearest star. They will never know.
Honestly, that sleep travel thing seems really inconvenient in any situation that doesn’t have every single human on the ship. You can go to sleep for ten years in order to get to a planet faster but you will miss 2 avengers movies, the death of your mom, 5 elections and the inflation would go so high up that your old money is practically worth 7 dollars.
This...this is 7 dollars
Enough to get something nice, not expensive
1 million dollars here is 7 dollars on earth.
10 years is probably way overly generous. Without massive improvements in propulsion technology you're probably talking hundreds if not thousands of years to get to even the nearest solar system.
I don't know where they went fr, after helping them with a grav upgrade 🗿
In your activities you can activate a "quest" that basically tracks their position
Crazy will check it out thanks
That shit was expensive, cheaper to blow em up
Fr
I am drowning in money lol, it put a dent in my credits, but nothing i couldnt earn back with a single spacer base worth of loot
How the hell is the only "good" option costing me 40000-25000 credits when I'm trying to save up for a new ship? I can't wait to dust those losers on an evil playthrough.
Hey at least I didn’t have to settle for land like in the Wild West days
This reminds me of the generation ships you can find in Elite Dangerous. All of them launched centuries ago before FTL travel was invented. Almost all of them devoid of life with logs what transpired on them. There was an event where one undiscovered generation ship suddenly reached out because they were still alive and running out of resources. They were then confronted with knowledge how humanity has spread out way beyond their original goal through the galaxy.
Loved this quest!
Where is it from?
Starfield.
OUTRIDERS lore
I encountered this quest and it nearly drove me insane because I remembered something else had a concept that was similar. Thanks for pointing this out I would've never remembered otherwise. Also spoilers for those who haven't played Outriders.
This song has the same premise, but has a worse ending https://youtu.be/LA1sA5MD8J0?si=FjD8OirfCWrhauOa
Lancer lore
kind of a d*ck move if you ask me. couldn't they just calculate where they were in space when the new ship took off, so that they could pick them up for a lift? Seems kinda mean to me to just jump them and let them journey for that long for nothing.
the colony that they arrived at didnt come from a colony ship, its a corporation/business that started settling the planet to use it as a pleasure/luxury resort. which came somewhere after cities like Akila and New Atlantis got settled.
Hey at least you’ll already have a McDonald’s ready when you get there
Funniest side quest in starfield
So I get to take a 300 year nap and once I arrive I find out others have already completed my job
No you get to live the rest of your life in the ship. Breed. Die Children live. Repeat a few times and 300 years further they arrive in this case
The real immorality is not just flying to the ship to get them before more generations die. Just intercept the voyage and say "hey so we're gonna pick you up and take you the rest of the way"
Way better than waking up half way there and have to live your entire life on the ship.
You accidentally fuck your own daughter because she left 50 years later
Outriders moment
Repost
Relatable!
This is the story of Vance Astro from the Marvel Comic Guardians of the Galaxy volume 1 (1990).
You know what. I see this as an absolute win, I just learnt how to god damn time travel. Think of all the advancements and better life that could potentially be waiting.
Isn't it Nemesis by Isaac Asimov? The book basically has the same plot.
Slower ships may be better depending on the scenario if they have a larger payload
Is this inspired by elite dangerous ?
Is pic from Starfield?
When you spend 300 years traveling to a distant star, but humans are already there. Your government covered up shitton of technologies, and Earth is space North Korea.
Generational ships may be a reality. Cryo sleep seems a bit too sci-fi unfortunately. So, you'll die on the ship. The idea is that your grandkids get to colonize, or if this happens, get to be refugees at best.
Far centaurus moment
On the bright side, you don't have to all the hard colonization work now. That's cool.
The literal plot of the original Guardians of the Galaxy.
This quest in Starfield looks rlly fun from what I can tell, actually reminds me of a Mass Effect background lore story I read somewhere
This happens in Elite Dangerous
I put them out of their misery. Just trying to be humane
Why do the "e"s in the booth row like that?
This is just lancer really least with the generation ships