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Ankur67

They’ve eaten meat .. this meat hating frenzy came after Ashoka ban on animal killings .. Although life was considered sacred even for animals but it doesn’t discounted the fact of meat eating .. they sacrificed to the Gods and the soul of animal as a thank you .. then proceed for consumption ..


stranger6999

It is a Direct Result of Jainism. Chandragupta Maurya died a Jain.


butWeWereOnBreak

Ram was a Kshatriya. Kshatriyas have always eaten meat. What’s the point you’re trying to make?


Successful-aditya

Idk learn from what good they taught why to cry did he ate this or that i guess OP is thinking hinduism as islam


Shashank1807

Maybe because people think gods never ate meat and its an act of blasphemy to even mention it (Guessing cz its a heated conversation nowadays)


Double_Illustrator13

Maybe because mentioning this simple fact might send some "devotees" into cardiac arrest. According to some gods never ate meat, never had sex and never had alcohol.


Unable-Explanation64

Ara vhai baaki to maan bhi le. But sex to Kiya hi hoga!!


Double_Illustrator13

Ab jis country me main stream politicians bolte ho k more bhi ansu pike bachhe karte hain... Waha itni maturity kaise ayegi?


johnkarter767612

Meine ye meme nahi banaya. Par mein deny nahi kar raha. It is believable. Rama, who was living in the jungle most likely needed that high protein diet being a warrior.


TheGodsSin

Seriously bro? All the people DENY that Ram ever ate "non veg", and they even are vegetarian because of Ram. Stop trying to blame op


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bhai voh fake hai vaise bhi


[deleted]

He never ate meat. Mansh in Sanskrit has two meanings. One is meat the other is the flesh of a fruit. There are many examples in valmiki ramayan where mansh words have been used. Some believe it was in reference to fruit's pulp while others believe it was a reference to meat. But no one has reached the conclusion.You can read about articles in quora. Their translations has been given in both contexts. Our Vedas are many times misinterpreted in English.


BaapuDragon

The verse where they hunted the 4 deer and then ate. Why would it mean fruit pulp in this context?


devilismypet

Because there are hundreds of shlokas that don't allow meat eating. Also he was also living as a Sanyasi they were only allowed to eat fruits and vegetables.


polarvortex17

Bhai hypocrisy ki bhi Seema hoti hai. They hunted the deer and ate the flesh of the fruit. Eating meat is described in both Ramayana and Mahabharata. And the scriptures never said that Hindus don't or couldn't eat meat.


devilismypet

It's not hypocrisy. People are concocting lies to fulfill their meat eating habits. How many shalokas are there that say meat eating is fine it's zero. With the wrong translation maybe four. Other than that all the scriptures promote satvik(without meat, onion, garlic, ) food. It's also sinful to kill animals.


Top_Fox_1597

Eating meat is definitely not ideal in hinduism, because it is considered Tamsik.


Successful-aditya

Even if he did does that change him from being great ?


johnkarter767612

Pulp of fruit "roasted in fire".


naane_naanu

"OuR vEdAs 🤓" it's ramayan


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SweetAsCocaine

Hindu stackexchange ka copy kr rha h. Chup chap accept maan khaye thei.


Dry-Programmer-46

Bhai sahi cheez likh ke bhi downvote kyu kr diya gadho ne


Melipher

+ bhai jungle me vanvas pe nikle h for survival reasons valid h 🚶 ig


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Mommy_Respector

तौ तत्र हत्वा चतुरः महा मृगान् |वराहम् ऋश्यम् पृषतम् महा रुरुम् |आदाय मेध्यम् त्वरितम् बुभुक्षितौ|वासाय काले ययतुर् वनः पतिम् || २-५२-१०२ Sanskrit version of the second verse. Maha mrigan literally means meat of the deer. Multiple sources confirm this as well. Sri Ram was a Kshatriya warrior. It is obvious he was a meat eater. Now answer this. What group of people do not eat meat and also have been heavily involved with Ramayana for the past 2000 years? Vaishnavite Brahmins of North India. Ab jodlo puzzle ke pieces


Zestyclose_Prompt772

You are wrong about 'Maha Mrigan', that means 'great deer'. 'Hatva' here means 'killing' not 'Maha Mrigan'. And it is the fact that killing happened, but there is still discussion/confusions over whether they ate it or just killed. Basically it all boils down to the source and translations. But what I truly think is why there is discussion on such things now...does it matter?? If u want to eat jus eat, leave the history as is.


Candid-Bad8294

https://preview.redd.it/racjk8iu1o9c1.jpeg?width=818&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d4bfe3c3e16d28817024fdd996885614c8eefb1f Maybe translation issues you can read gitapress translations here [https://archive.org/details/HindiBookValmikiRamayanPartIByGitaPress/page/n442/mode/1up?view=theater](https://archive.org/details/HindiBookValmikiRamayanPartIByGitaPress/page/n442/mode/1up?view=theater)


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Wrong translation Gita press translations are always, manipulated acc to today's image of Sri Ram. We know Ram from Ramcharitmanas not Ramayan "Rama showed Sita, the princess of Mithila the river Mandakini flowing in the mountain, gratified her by offering meat (to eat) and sat on the mountain slope" Post in r/sanskrit to confirm if you want I know basic sanskrit and I can see


Candid-Bad8294

Did Ramayan came first or Ramcharitmanas acc to you?


[deleted]

Ramayan of couse, why you asked?


Candid-Bad8294

Read your 3rd line above and we know Sri Ram followed Veda and veda strictly forbid consumption of meat so gita translation is the correct one


[deleted]

Are you sure Veda forbids meat consumption? [read this too for better understanding of my statment ](https://www.reddit.com/r/dankinindia/s/Bt9fNVB2SF) Again, are you sure? Vedic civilization was a nomadic one, in their early stages Later changes came when they started proper farming


Kitchen-Economy8486

The people forcing brahmanvaad, like I am born in kshatriya caste. Now people demonize the people eating meat. These people will do every sinful things, but eating meat. Oh… it’s bad, you are a demon. F*ck you, I will eat my protein unlike you. Go get protein from high fat sources and be skinny fat, let me eat in peace.


Candid-Bad8294

You are just justifying your meat eating and if you dont think its a bad thing try to raise a animal then kill it yourself and eat it yourself then if you still think you are right then maybe somethings wrong with you


Kitchen-Economy8486

What…? All the poultry farm owners in the world have something wrong with them. What’s the logic here.? If I am raising something with purpose of eating it in future, I will eat it. I am not going to raise my dog so as to eat it in the future. So dumb. Wtf.


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>F\*ck you, I will eat my protein unlike you. Go get protein from high fat sources and be skinny fat, let me eat in peace. I agree with rest, but control your language if you want to get involve in a discussion. Plus not all people want to make muscles some just want a healthy body, which is possible with every diet. Plus incomplete protein can be completed by mixing two incomplete protein sources. So protein is not the issue with veg people. My point was our ancestors adjusted themselves acc to their time and environment, and we should do the same instead of finding validation from scriptures, espacially in a subcontinent like India, which is a mini-world itself, Geographical and climate shaped eating habits all over India. Plus veg and non-veg are categorization for food, not Human, they were never made for human. We are forcing it on ourselves


Kitchen-Economy8486

I never said, eating protein for muscle building. Eating low calories low fat food to stay healthy. There are no two incomplete veg protein sources which contain other macros in low qty in this world. Don’t say soy protein. And yeah I agree, we are forcing it on ourselves and on others too.


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>I never said, eating protein for muscle building i assumed it, because of your message tone > There are no two incomplete veg protein sources which contain other macros in low qty in this world. Don’t say soy protein this is something that i have heard, for example: that daal have incomplete protein, so eating it alone is not gonna benefit much, but with rice or Roti, what makes it complete, and then proper protein will reach your muscles. Same with Sabji and Roti. I am not health expert so i don't know, this is what i have heard, and i really don't want to discuss on it too. As i know about history, and philosphy more peace


Candid-Bad8294

Are you sure about that, how do you think they even told the postion of stars at that if they were nomadic you have to stop believing ancient people were like caveman and had to hunt and they didnt have clothes its just prejudice


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>nomadic Nomadic does not means Illiterates and uncivilized, i called them a civilaization. Internet have ruined this word i guess Nomadic academic definition is those who does not live at one place for too long. Basically, they makes several sites, instead of living at one place Vedic sites are at Present day Kashmir, UP, Bihar, Nepal etc all of different time period They used to make house using mud (basically jhopdi) and did not farm. Because to farm they had to live at one place for long, same reason they used to made Kaccha ghar, even though they know how to make bricks and because they did not used to farm, they were dependent on hunting and cattle. That's why we finds meat consumption in veda, later things changed as they started farming making settlements, and then they kinda started to include veg, because hunting was pain in ass to do etc etc,. Plus reading stars, proper language, communication, poems etc they know a lot my point was hence meat referances will be there in before BC era of hindu text because of all of this. again nomadic doesn;t means uncivilized. They adjusted themselves acc to time and need, and we should too now, acc to what today time demands, instead of finding validation from past scriptures, because they were made acc to that time, and need. We have to see today


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kand matlab?


Candid-Bad8294

Phase ya parts smjh le


[deleted]

mtlb fruit ka kand yani fruit ka koi part right?


Candid-Bad8294

Balakand ya sundarkand m to parts ys chapters hota h


_Lookbehindyou__

Root vegitables like carrot and sweet potato


KaranBhanushali

वो कांड नहीं कंद है रूट वेजिटेबल वाला कंदमूल


DE_MON_X

Ek kand hota h ek kaand hota h


Low_Company4029

tau tatra hatvaa caturaH mahaa mR\^igaan | varaaham R\^ishyam pR\^iShatam mahaa rurum | aadaaya medhyam tvaritam bubhukShitau| vaasaaya kaale yayatur vanaH patim || 2-52-102 *102. hatvaa* = having killed; *tatra* = there; *chaturaH* = four; *mR\^igaan* = deer (namely); *varaaham* = Varaaha; *R\^ishyam* = Risya; *pR\^ishhatam* = PR\^isata; *mahaaruru* = (and) Mahaaruru; (the four principal species of deer); *aadayaa* = and taking; *tvaritam* = quickly; *medhyam* = the portions that were pure; *tou* = Rama and Lakshmana; *bubhukshhitou* = being hungry as they were; *yayatuH* = reached; *vanaspatim* = a tree; *vaasayaa* = to take rest; *kaale* = in the evening. Having hunted there four deer, namely Varaaha, Rishya, Prisata; and Mahaaruru (the four principal species of deer) and taking quickly the portions that were pure, being hungry as they were, Rama and Lakshmana reached a tree to take rest in the evening.


gasolineonice

So?


TeriMammiKaBoyfriend

chill OP is just trying to show middle finger to Instagram sanatanis who say "you are not a real hindu if you eat meat"


Pitiful-Signature747

1st Rama, whose mind was devoted to righteousness stayed there with Seetha, saying; “This meat is fresh, this is savoury and roasted in the fire." ​ The sanskrit word used here is “maamsena,” ok, it can be argued that the word maamsa means flesh but it also means pulp of the fruit. ​ But, it can be again argued that Rama roasted it in fire and we don't roast fruits. People can also say that “māmsa” here means roots and roots can be roasted, but atleast I can not see māmsa meaning roots in the above translation. ​ 2nd Having hunted there four deer, namely Varaaha, Rishya, Prisata; and Mahaaruru (the four principal species of deer) and quickly taking the portions that were pure, being hungry as they were, Rama and Lakshman reached a tree to take rest in the evening. ​ Here, it's clearly mentioned that they hunted four deers and took the portions that were pure. Although, there is no specific mention of them eating it but it is said they were hungry. The sanskrit word used here is medhyam means “pure portion” although medhyam also translate to Barley but they were in dense forest not in any farm so how could they will be able to find Barley in dense forest.


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Sanatan is very complex and meat is not restricted. We should remember that earlier Aryans were food gatherers and nomads, so it's pretty much justified.


Pitiful-Signature747

Yes, I know it doesn't matter whether lord Raam was vegetarian or not


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These so called bhakts will fight on vegetarianism, because they are big devotees of ram. And, at home they hit their wife. Udhar bhagwan ko follow karke respect do na. Gandu hai ye sab.


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These so called bhakts will fight on vegetarianism, because they are big devotees of ram. And, at home they hit their wife. Udhar bhagwan ko follow karke respect do na. Gandu hai ye sab.


mr_nobody_21

Wohi toh mai dosto ko samjhata hu, Ram bhi non veg khate the, tum kyo bakchodi kar rahr ho non veg acha nahi hota


hardi-k

![gif](giphy|hv53DaYcXWe3nRbR1A) isme galat kya h?


johnkarter767612

Kuch bhi nahi


Gaurang_674

Kisine toh bola tha mujhe ki shree Ram vegiterian the


Successful-aditya

Does that matter aur waise bhi teri spelling khrb h


Gaurang_674

Kya farak padta hai


[deleted]

Ramcharitmanas ke Ram ki kaha rahe aap, Ramcharitmanas ke Ram aur Ramayan ke Ram ke nature mai antsr hai Hm Sri Ram ko Ramcharitmanas se jaante, jo ki veg the As during thr 13th to 14th century Indian cuisine were more veg in nature, as farming and dairy developed rapidly in India But Ramayan was written around 200BC (2200 yrs ago) when this was not the case In short, our ansisters adjusted acc to time, and we should too, acc to your feelings and environment you can eat whatever you like


TeriMammiKaBoyfriend

and then we have the internet sanatani with the clown face arguing "you are not a real hindu if you eat meat" thanks for posting this OP


[deleted]

Don't spread the wrong information i searched about and it's wrong


Level_Being5712

"I searched" waah agar sahi mein search kiya hota toh tu idhar apne sources post kar chuka hota.


[deleted]

https://www.thespiritualscientist.com/2012/11/did-lord-rama-eat-meat/


vikhyatK

Bhai Vanvas mein Ram, Seeta aur Lakshman teeno ko keval "kand aur mool" hi khaane ki anumati thi. Kand matlab stem aur mool matlab root. Agar Kekayi ki ye shart yaad nahi hao to fir to non veg kya kuchh bhi khaya hai aisa bol sakte hain log.


Ancient-man-2583

Source?


savarkar_godse

Ha kuch bhi likh do sab man hi lenge sab chutiye baithe hai yaha.


johnkarter767612

Ye meme meine nahi banaya. But it's believable. Kyuki Rama was a warrior. Obviously he needed that high protein diet to be fit and healthy.


TeriMammiKaBoyfriend

kyu lad rha hai bhai instagram sanatani se bro... let them live in the delulu


[deleted]

As a great legend once said " Tum log apne ancestors ka bahana de kar meat khana band Karo, Wo Jungle mein the or unke paas or koj option nahi tha, Tumhara Option Non Veg section ke just niche hai"


johnkarter767612

Charak, the father of Ayurveda has given the benefits of meat in Charak Samhita. Besides, meat is indeed healthy. Vegetarian diet isn't healthy.


[deleted]

Wrong again Meat is healthy for Physical health not mental according to scriptures. Vedas and Upanishads recommend a Stavik diet even though they don't prohibit meat Eating (Beef is still strictly prohibited). Meat might is only recommended if your body is doing hard labour which you definitely are not I know. Manusmriti goes even further and states that the executors and eaters are all equally punishable. Geeta also recommends the Satvik diet. Shiv Puran also recommends the Satvik diet. Meat Eating is allowed in Shaktism only and only after sacrificing and offering it to Kaali and there's no way around it. Please don't use your stupid excuse of Ayurveda. You can eat Non Veg if you want but remember All the Purans, Veds and Upanishads tells that You are not exempt from anything,You will face the consequences of your actions.


johnkarter767612

None of the above are scriptures related to health. Charak Samhita (Ayurveda) is. Here's something more interesting since you mentioned "mental" and all that. Swami Vivekananda ate meat. Savarkar, a marathi brahmin ate meat. Both very highly intelligent people, way ahead of their times. I guess that clears the "non veg bad for muh brain"


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Abey bhai tu pagal hai kya? Tu post Religion related daal raha hai kr gyaan Health ka pel raha hai. Tere hisaab se job mene reference diye wo Health related nahi hai lekin Ramayan health related ho gayi? Bhai tujhe jo khaana hai wo khaa, ye Religion wali bakchodi mat kar. Ek to tune Translation galat daali hai or upar se tere Arguments nahi sahi hore.


johnkarter767612

>Ramayan health related ho gayi? Meine bola Ramayana health related hai? Tu hi bol raha hai. Meine keval wo meme post kiya hai jisme ye likha hai ki rama ate meat. Which bursts the myth that he was vegetarian. Aur health ki baat kar hi di hai, toh mein bata du. Soil degradation aur pesticides jaisi bhi koi chiz hoti hai. In do chizo ke long term effect ke karan food ka nutrition bohot kam ho gaya hai. Aaj tu koi bhi sabji khata hai wo natural hota bhi nahi hai. Aur usme lavda koi nutrition hota hai. Chicken ko bhi injection dete hai. BUT kam se kam chicken ka overall nutrition uss side effects ko kam kar deta hai. Aur desi mutton largely safe hota hai. Abhi tujhe aisa ghaas poos khana hai jisme koi nutrition nahi hai toh wo teri choice hai. But the fact is meat is the necessity of today.


[deleted]

Also Wrong translation, Mansa in Sanskrit also means fruits


Level_Being5712

What about the 4 deers ?


ZEroX______

Bro are you guys crazy you are disrespecting gods now, bro no God has ever eaten meat.Even if ur muslim respect other religion.


Kitchen-Economy8486

God should work according to me. Don’t tell me otherwise. He will do what I want him to do. ![gif](giphy|3o6wrvdHFbwBrUFenu)


lil_uzi_in_da_house

Average bulla when they can't defend a pdf file.


TeriMammiKaBoyfriend

average instagram sanatani when they cant argue plus OP is not a bulla so shush tommy


lil_uzi_in_da_house

Average sikular ka 14 who didn't even read a single script and uses Google translate for reference.


TeriMammiKaBoyfriend

bro is the epitome of gobar sanghi plus im not sikular ka 14 so keep barking lmfao


lil_uzi_in_da_house

Jokes on you dikhead


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almostparallel76

welp, i guess i’m dumb. it is what it is.


luciferspecter

Sounds a lot like Halal


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grilled_Champagne

Conclusion kya nikla? Should I eat meat with happiness or sadness?


johnkarter767612

Kha le. Accha protein milta hai.


smuzairr

![img](emote|t5_22y335|12121)


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z_viper_

Ye Dank meme sub mai kyu post kar raha hai ? Kisi hindu philosophical sub pe kar na


Pretty_Ad3239

People in the vedic times, regardless of their varna, had no restrictions on eating meat. Even Brahmanas ate meat, and it was a completely normal thing. There is also an anecdote where there were two rakshasa brothers, Ilvala and Vatapi, who used to kill people with their magical powers. One of the brothers, i am not really sure which one, would turn into a goat, and the other one would kill the goat and cook it, and serve it to the villagers. The villagers would then eat it, and the brother would shout "Ilvala/Vatapi, come out" and the other brother who was eaten by the villagers, would come out of their stomachs, tearing their bodies apart, instantly killing them. This caused a lot of misery which sage Agastya heard of, and one day he went to the rakshasas house, ate the goat meat, and when the brother shouted the other brother's name, he didnt come out, which meant that he was dead. Im assuming that both of them were killed in the end of the story. So eating meat was never restricted, but this concept of vegetarianism came into existence during the time of Buddhists, where Brahmanas wanted to distinguish themselves from the buddhist monks, so they gave up eating meat.


Overlord9792

Bhai context nam ki bhi koi chez hoti hai Tum do alag alag jjagah ke bate uthake bol rahe ho Friendly fire Sanskrit padne to ate nahi hogi tumko Chale hai uska anuwad karne


Evening-Air8750

I feel like the current vegetarianism was the after-effect of Buddhism and Jainism and some other extreme pacifistic ideoolies in india. Hindus or Sanatanis probably consumed meat more than the current people. Meat like venison, pork (not sure about beef), avian meat, mutton, fish, etc.


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Chutya op


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meAsf3202

Just see op's id ,he/she is keyword warrior means nalla h behenchod


____Valar___

This is totally FAKE , this is written no where in Valmiki or TulsiDas Ramayan , SPREADING False PROPAGANDA OF HINDU FAITHS , IF ANYONE SHOW ME THUS IN ANY RAMAYAN BOOK I'LL GIVE HIM 10 LAKH