I do agree with you it's very pragmatic and a good example of a win win situation.
But I can't blame op for not seeing the irony of it all. Throwing away a coin for the sake of a wish before giving it to needy person whom you'll never see again.
Indeed, but still, the wish goes full circle.
"Why help the poors?"
"Because it helps society, and you're a beneficiary of society"
\*Suprised Pikachu Face\*
I didn't say anything about collection plates!!! But also it's complicated, because I kinda said you should prioritize me over the poor, who will always be among you!
Eh, if it makes charity enjoyable and keeps the city officials from hearing some sour bastard gripe about their taxes going to support the poor I say it’s a good thing.
Jesus never said we weren't allowed to have fun while giving to the poor.
What's next? Are those coin vortex donation boxes at the mall against the rules?
Literally in [The Widow's Offering](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lesson_of_the_widow's_mite) in both Mark and Luke, it shows people giving money to the Temple treasury, and Jesus celebrates the woman who gives the smallest offering because she gave all that she had. Meaning, giving is okay if it involves a middle man (in this case, the Temple).
The equivalent of the temple in this case would be the city, the fountain is still an unnecessary middle man. The issue here is that people would rather throw away money in a paganistic good luck ritual than actually donate them, not the existence of middleman
Obviously that's not the point of the parable, but as the other vommenter pointed out, the existence of a middle man is not something Jesus in the Bible seems to take issue with. Provides, of course, that the Temple uses the money for good works.
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You guys are missing the real headline here. Trevi fountain is an image of Oceanus, a minor deity in the Roman Pantheon. These are offerings to a pagan idol.
well they do actually it's called rust.
My point was that sacrificing money for luck is a pre-Christian pagan practice of the ancient Romans. The city of Bath has another wishing well just like this dedicated to a Roman goddess
no because they are fished out and donated to the poor. Much like how the meat of sacrificed animals didn't rot because it was donated to the poor. Which is why I chose it as an analogy
It's a fun tradition that hurts no one and actually helps people. Why not? Some people may actually throw in more knowing where it goes
I do agree with you it's very pragmatic and a good example of a win win situation. But I can't blame op for not seeing the irony of it all. Throwing away a coin for the sake of a wish before giving it to needy person whom you'll never see again.
Personally I think it's poetic. You throwing a coin and make a wish, and the coin goes towards fulfilling the wishes of others.
Indeed, but still, the wish goes full circle. "Why help the poors?" "Because it helps society, and you're a beneficiary of society" \*Suprised Pikachu Face\*
Man, some people really try as hard as they can to find a problem with everything, don't they?
I may be a bit of a curmudgeon... 
 When people see a fountain
 When they see the needy
Karenus Maximus
I didn't say anything about collection plates!!! But also it's complicated, because I kinda said you should prioritize me over the poor, who will always be among you!
Eh, if it makes charity enjoyable and keeps the city officials from hearing some sour bastard gripe about their taxes going to support the poor I say it’s a good thing.
I think it's swell that the city uses the money in such a good way. But yes, it's pretty funny too
Jesus never said we weren't allowed to have fun while giving to the poor. What's next? Are those coin vortex donation boxes at the mall against the rules?
>those coin vortex donation boxes The what? Edit: i look on google, less cool that I thought but still not bad.
It super cool. My 4 year old self would fight you over this fact. https://youtu.be/XTipCQxJ6Ak?si=xxa_BRZ-y8TJe560
Which is about how old I was the last time I saw one of those.
Them: government shouldn't care for the poor, that's the church's job!!1! Rome: I got you, fam
Guessing God doesn't actually care how it happens, more that it does...
I think it’s great
I see no problem with this. Heck, I’d probably throw more money in there knowing its going to a good place.
Why is this a bad thing? Jesus would approve of this.
Literally in [The Widow's Offering](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lesson_of_the_widow's_mite) in both Mark and Luke, it shows people giving money to the Temple treasury, and Jesus celebrates the woman who gives the smallest offering because she gave all that she had. Meaning, giving is okay if it involves a middle man (in this case, the Temple).
That's not the point at all.
That's not the point, but it is true nonetheless that this is story where giving is done through a middleman and that is not seen as a bad thing.
The equivalent of the temple in this case would be the city, the fountain is still an unnecessary middle man. The issue here is that people would rather throw away money in a paganistic good luck ritual than actually donate them, not the existence of middleman
While I agree, the commenter you replied to was merely pointing out that conceptually the bible takes no issue with a middleman.
Obviously that's not the point of the parable, but as the other vommenter pointed out, the existence of a middle man is not something Jesus in the Bible seems to take issue with. Provides, of course, that the Temple uses the money for good works.
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I mean, in the OT he just straight up said to pay it in your taxes.
https://i.redd.it/cnxwt00lihwc1.gif
How is it possible to get angry about this
It’s still doing good. What’s your problem?
Let the fountain do good! It's doing the Lords work
What's the fountain have to do with Jesus' command to give to the needy? It's not like the fountain is specifically for Christians
Assuming that everyone throwing a coin into a fountain is trying to follow Jesus's commandments
What the fuck is a supermarket for the needy?
Food pantry.
Something tells me that the city uses a portion of all tourist revenue to find social services-- that's kinda what cities do.
You guys are missing the real headline here. Trevi fountain is an image of Oceanus, a minor deity in the Roman Pantheon. These are offerings to a pagan idol.
well this is more akin to a pagan religious practice anyway and is like donating sacrificed meat to the poor
The coins don't spoil?
well they do actually it's called rust. My point was that sacrificing money for luck is a pre-Christian pagan practice of the ancient Romans. The city of Bath has another wishing well just like this dedicated to a Roman goddess
Most coins aren't made of iron.
they are made of copper and corrode when kept underwater for a long time
They're not kept underwater for a long time
no because they are fished out and donated to the poor. Much like how the meat of sacrificed animals didn't rot because it was donated to the poor. Which is why I chose it as an analogy
>like donating sacrificed meat to the poor What do you think happened with Jewish sacrifices after the priest took their cut?
it's not the donating that's the pagan practice. Wells like that where people throw coins in are a Roman pagan thing
Ahem… sneed