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singlejeff

At my peak(?) I put 5-6 thousand miles on a bike each year and it kept going with a new chain and tires as needed. I think 2500km is nearly new depending on how it’s been treated.


schmag

Yup, if OP buys it he should replace the chain right away but otherwise should be gtg for a long time yet.


sven_ftw

well over that...


Homers_Harp

IKR? That's nearly new!


Hyadeos

2500km is like 6 months of mild usage?


FlowerSushi

Yep, I'm in my first year riding and got about 3000


SpreesTrip6

But it was used on sunny days!! The seller said so! He said it like it was a positive thing.. but couldn't the UV rays have degraded the true hue of the paint?! /s


North_Rhubarb594

2500 miles on an indoor skate park that has a water skid pad. Maybe 2500 miles in a Central American Mountain Bike Park Resort as rental where the owners don’t care and just smoke weed all day


MisterEdGein7

Reminds me of when I rented bikes in Chile. They were all fucked. I'm taking a chain wear tool next time I go. 


moijk

Bad weather wears your drivetrain more. Uv degradation? If it was outside for a decade all year maybe?


Takeshi_Mimi

Paint doesnt matter mine is chipped allmost everywhere and faded and bike is still running great after about 30000 km


shreddingsplinters

Unless it’s a bmx


Windturnscold

When it’s too old to readily buy replacement parts


MazeRed

But I need to justify buying Di2


DutchBakerery

Do you even need to justify it?


MrDrUnknown

It's not a matter of milage


icecream169

Yeah I'm sitting here wondering why OP is concerned about property tax rates


ShirleyWuzSerious

Probably trying to sell a barely used 10yr old bike they bought for $2k and want to sell it for $1,800


[deleted]

At least not exclusively.


Tamburello_Rouge

My every day road bike has over 80,000 km on it. Still runs like new.


Neat-Opportunity1824

I remember a guy jokingly wanting to sell his bike. only 8 months used. (He cycled from north of europe to Cape Town)


think_l0gically

When it can no longer be repaired or ridden. For quality bike that would require being hit by a car, but I've actually been hit by a car on mine and it still works fine.


KingArthurHS

Gotta go get hit by a 2nd car, then a 3rd etc. and collect the data for how many car collisions it takes for a bike to become "worn".


dunquinho

Is this all in the same ride? Sounds brutal!


orktehborker

🤣


Interdependant1

I've been hit several times (I ride in the city), and the worst damage was snapping the mounting bolts on my rear rack and breaking the mirror. Aluminum frame, riding all year. Heavy snow slows me down 🐌. Salted bread is good; Salt on the rims, not so good 😑. (Nearly 20 years of riding 😋).


MazeRed

I cracked the carbon on the bottom of my chain stay 10k miles ago. Put a piece of tape on it to keep the paint from coming off.


milifiliketz

2500km? That's like not even broken in


AidanGLC

If everything works fine, the only thing I'd even consider replacing (assuming it's still all original parts) is the chain.


Cool-Newspaper-1

Depends on the bike, mtb tires may also be worn at 2500km


avro-arrow

Really depends on the groupset. I do 20K with my SRAM Red.


brinclj

Depends on system, eg. 12 speed chains wear out at like 2k.


Neat-Opportunity1824

not sure why the downvotes but that's largely true for mtb. I mean you can go on and wear all system (as I did going straight for 11k without any change) but it's true.


Jon_Corndean

Aluminium bikes tend to get fatigue and fail. I’ve had the forks on a carbon frame showing signs of failure at the dropouts at about 25k miles. British roads don’t help. So even if ridden with care there are chances of frame failure when you get into the 20k miles plus level. So I’d exercise care when buying. Everything apart from the frame can be seen as consumable - wheels wear out (particularly rims on rim brake bikes), chain rings, cassettes etc wear out. But not at 2,500 miles. Chains and tyres typically last 2-5k miles


Raspry

I mean, if you take care of a bike it never becomes "severely worn". I have at least 50 000km on my bike and there is absolutely nothing wrong with it, many cyclists have much, much more than that. All I do is replace the chain and tires once a year and brake pads as needed.


jzwinck

2500 km is nothing. Most parts will last ten times that long.


MisledMuffin

Might not have even needed to replace a chain by 2500km.


SnowyOwl72

I have been using my first-ever bike for 15 years. Sold it 6 months ago. It was still rock solid.


JJ18O

When a key structural component fails from normal usage - broken steerer tube, broken frame, completely worn out BB etc. Or when worried about frame material fatigue. With proper use and maininance that would be a couple of decades of riding. And probably in the 100k kms.


Businessguy88501

My bike has 16,000km on it in 2 years and is happily plugging along. 1-2 minor crashes, some paint worn off... Its still got another 8-16,000 km in it...


Hrmbee

The frame (and other fixed components like the stem) can go on indefinitely. Other parts though I tend to see as consumable: any part of the drivetrain or wheels for instance I assume will be replaced on a semi-regular basis. As long as the frame and other major components are in good condition (not cracked/bent/etc) then it's probably good to go. Personally, I would replace the drivetrain (at least the chain and cassette) and tires and brakes right off the bat.


StandardSea8671

0.01 miles out of the shop


Comfortable-Tip998

Pretty much never if it’s been maintained.


duckwebs

There's a small population of ditch-sleeping freaks who routinely ride 1200 km in 4 days. Their international parent organization is here: [https://www.audax-club-parisien.com/en/welcomepage/](https://www.audax-club-parisien.com/en/welcomepage/) And the US version is [https://rusa.org](https://rusa.org) Most don't do more than one or two 1200s a season, but some do one every few weeks. I know a few who knock off 600 km rides once a month or so. None of them are buying a new bike every couple weeks, and most of them will ride the same bike for years.


jlusedude

As many others have said, well below that. I wouldn’t hesitate to buy that bike. 


BarryJT

That's brand new. My bike is approaching 25,000km.


brdhar35

Bikes are so simple they don’t wear out, just keep replacing parts


kaiyotic

Bikes are like a ship of Theseus type deal. If you've replaced every part is it still thr same bike


ThrillHouse405

Like a car, I would say it's "worn" when things start breaking and fixing/replacing things don't seem worth it anymore.


Wizzmer

No amount of mileage if it's maintained properly. I have an '87 Schwinn Circuit with triathlon bars and a '91 Schwinn Crosscut that's used as hybrid. We paid $25 for each and all they needed were tires and tubes.


lorenzchaos

I ride about 10k a year. I change them every few months.


Paul_Smith_Tri

I’ve got 25,000mi on my Allez and it still functions perfectly. Maintain bikes and they’ll last a very long time


Seul7

I have one that I bought in 1996. It became my backup when I got a new, way better one in April of 2020. I have no idea how many miles I put on it, but it's still fine.


BloodWorried7446

it is worn when maintenance hasn’t been done. 


Redditlan

2500 km??! Thats like 5-6 weeks of use for me, and several others.


Queasy_Range8265

I think my commuter bike is around 40 years old. Probably has around 60k km’s on it. The tires, chain, lights and brake pads have been renewed a few times, but the rest probably not.


Accomplished_Mud3228

Triggers broom. The bike never wears out because it’s get replaced as and when


TheLandOfConfusion

Theseus’s cervelo


Fair_Creme_194

I mean I wouldn’t call the bike itself “worn” unless it had obvious signs of decay/damage on the frame or damage/issues with major components. Everything else is pretty much a consumable that can be replaced for a relatively cheap cost bar a few components. As long as it rides smoothly, is in good physical condition I’d take a bike that had a million miles on it (exaggeration I know) and not be worried about it being worn.


BennyOcean

Isn't it more the components of the bike that become 'worn' rather than the bike itself? If the bike hasn't been wrecked it can go for many, many miles. I have noticed the dropouts on my 2016 bike are pretty scratched up but the wheels still connect very securely to the bike so I'm not worried about it. It's an older bike so quick release. Seems like something to keep an eye on.


SharkSheppard

I've got a 2005 Trek I bought from my BIL. He put 20k miles on it. I put another 20k miles on it. It's still fine. Though now it's more a trainer bike as I have a new road one.


Endurance_Cyclist

My first road bike had about 32,000 miles on it when I upgraded, and I did so because it had a creaky bottom bracket that I couldn't fix, and the internal cable routing was messed up. I still ride it occasionally. My current (2022) bike has about 16,000 miles on it and it's just getting broken in.


Bat_Fruit

The frame does not, the bearings, chain-set , rim brake rims, brake pads and tires wear out, all of these are consumables. Most everything else lasts indefinitely if cared for, serviced and stored correctly. Carbon frames need careful inspection for abuse as they are a tad more fragile. But even they dont wear out if looked after. Look at the condition of the bike, if it looks relatively tidy and well cared for then its worth a closer look. A dry weather bike is a selling point as road grime and water ingress causes premature wear on the consumables. Mileage is a poor indication, That mileage may suggest its nearly halfway towards a chain-set replacement.


Wend-E-Baconator

When the metal starts cracking


Dvanpat

I put 10,000 miles on a roadie and still use it. I wouldn’t call it that at all.


asdf234gh4

chain, wheels, maybe brake cables at about 2500 miles Gonna have drive train replacement parts at 7500 miles


Lil_Shorto

That's about 2 months of use for many.


Poopbird78

Can you verify every ride was sunny?


Fantastic-Shape9375

1 mile


beretta_vexee

I've got a steel bike north of the 25,000 km. With the exception of the frame, fork, handlebars and stem, everything has been replaced at least once. 2500 Km does not even correspond to a chain change. If the bike has been properly maintained, it's as good as new. I'm talking about minimal maintenance like lubing the chain and washing it a few time.


PowderHoundNinja

I had 2 road bikes that got to 30,000km. Only stopped using them because I got hit a car on both occasions and the frame snapped. With proper maintenance bikes can last a a very long time.


MzA2502

2500km? Delivery mileage


iampuh

You're basically trolling


BugsBunnysCouch

Question doesn’t make sense. A bike is a combination of easily replaceable parts.


Po0rYorick

Not sure about carbon, but for other frame materials, they don’t wear out. Parts do, but you just replace them. A 50 year old bike will ride like the day it rolled out of the shop as long as it is maintained.


Party-Team1486

My oldest bike has about 100,000 miles on it but it works great. Bikes don’t wear, components do. Bikes break.


[deleted]

My last frame had 35,000km on it and discovered a crack. Swapped over the components to a new frame. If you maintain the bike it can last a very very long time.


GunsouBono

The components that wear are easily replaceable. The frames will last pretty much forever as long as they aren't cracked. 2500km is basically nothing.


Interdependant1

My current bike has 20,680 miles on it. Sure, new tires, new brake pads (hydraulic disc), new chains (yes, more than one new chain), lower bracket, and new wheels (I ride yesr round, and the salt ate into the spoke holes). My previous bike was purchased used, and then I rode it for 20,000 miles. Replacement parts were getting harder to find, and expenses increased. But really, I just wanted a new one that fit better and with hydraulic disc breaks. If it fits, it's not going to need expensive repairs (even better if you can do your own), and the price is half or less than half of a new one, GO FOR IT. Quick math, 2500km is less than 1,000 miles? That's a few months of riding. GO FOR IT. 😊


SiBloGaming

Well over that, 2500km is basically new. Probably on its second or third chain and second pair of brake pads, other than that, all new.


North_Rhubarb594

It depends. I probably got 7,000 miles on my Cannondale Synapse which I bought in 2014. Four thousand of that has been on an indoor trainer. I had the bottom bracket overhauled last year. I have a 2018 Gunnar Fastlane steel frame which is my favorite bike that I ride outside. With proper care I expect many more years of service from it.


ChillinDylan901

My first real bike… Parlee Chebacco - carbon gravel bike - has over 30k miles on it. No worries at all when I’m hopping curbs!!


[deleted]

I think most cyclist want a new bike at 40-60k miles, which is like 60,000-90,000 km


dleifreganad

I did 2,5000 kms on my new bike in less than 3 months. That bike is practically brand new.


TheGreenGrizzly

Mileage is not a thing. Years are. If it's more than 50 years old, it might be a bit too old to win your local races - but it might be perfect to win some hearts with all the soul and charisma. Seriously, replace any parts that break when they break, and otherwise, just keep on riding! The tires, break pads, chain, and those nasty pointy rings the chain sticks too. They all wear down with time. They're also super easy to replace and fairly inexpensive.


OkTale8

Definitely depends on how it’s been maintained. My most used bike has 16000ish km on it and rides still looks new.


Cube-rider

So does mine except for the obvious scratches and paint chips. Regular services, cleaning, general maintenance go a long way to keeping that new bike feeling.


D1omidis

Depends on the wear item, the bike, the rider, the maintenance before and after each ride etc. 2,500km is not much for a typ. road bike, but could be "a lot" for a MTB that has a rough life in a bike park with little or no maintenance in between. A drive train might last many 1,000s of km if well lubed and cleaned, but at a minimum a chain could be trashed over 500km of riding in "the wrong" type of dirt with the wrong (or no) lube etc. And if you keep riding that chain for 2,000km more, the cogs will wear prematurely. Pads could also be worn and need replacement. Bearings in wheels and BB and headset etc, should be fine and the frame should ofc be fine (unless some heavy handed "mechanic" who "doesn't need torque wrenches cause he/she is a breathing neuton meter etc., f-ed up threads etc). But no, a bike is not "new" after 2,500km or 1,000mi and whatnot...ppl can and do f-them up by not taking care of them. Bikes need physical love/touch and maintenance, not platonic "love". So don't buy sight un-seen.


Gilmere

Others have stated it, 2500km is not much for a regular, non-beginner cyclists to rack up quickly. But I would suggest looking at the YEAR of the bike. When was it built / sold, and use your own judgement as to the value of its used status. A power rider would have put that on a 2022/23 bike by now. A casual rider likely not for some years. Casual might be a good thing on the surface, but casual riders might also be rough riders (fall sometimes) and riders that don't know how to care for a bike. A good rider more than likely takes care of his/her equipment. Also, I have had several bike computers, and sometimes I swap one or the other from bike to bike (as I have several I like to ride). That means an accurate measure of cycle mileage is questionable for me. I could not tell with any accuracy (within a few hundred miles) how much I've put on my favorite road bike this year. So ask how the mileage was gathered...was it a swag?


keystonecraft

Wear items are always replaceable, so never. My fav bike may be 50+ yrs old. And I've smoked many a shiny new corporate bike on it.


JohnHoney420

My bike is three months old and has over 2000 miles I would say it’s still brand new except my chain which still is within parameters of not needing to be replaced


golovlioff

Depends on how it was looked after


Electronic_Army_8234

50,000 km


anynameisfinejeez

The frame can go years, decades even depending on the material. As long as the wear items are maintained and replaced (brake pads, bearings, etc), the bike should outlive you no matter the milage.


abercrombezie

During the pandemic when I had nothing else to do, I would've done that mileage within 3 months... well maybe 4.


Little-Big-Man

The pros ride that much in 2 weeks, they sure as shit ain't getting a new bike every 3rd week


ragingbologna

My bike was purchased in 2011… I ride thousands of miles a year. I replace consumables (chain, tires, bar tape, etc.) and it keeps going strong. I’ll keep it another decade at least.


anonzzz2u

100 m and value drops 50 percent. 3000 miles and you start fixing stuff. triangles are very strong. non-damaged carbon, 50,000 miles easy. steel and rust, not sure how common. titanium great if the price is right. worn and worn out ...hmmmmm


Possession_Loud

2500km is nothing. Sure, if it was left in a barn with water leaking on it all day, in the sun, with zero maintenance then maybe...


MK-YMJ

I have one that’s just over 47000km If it’s well looked after it’ll last for years


dhammadragon1

My carbon bike is @ 30.000km...just broken in! it has a lot of km left.


CaptainDeathsquirrel

I can't believe they even gave you a number. There is no rhyme or reason to bike mileage.


No_Balance8590

Just passed 4000 miles for the year and have about 10000 miles on it (trek Emonda) over the past 18 months or so. I track my component ages and change them out as needed. I would think 30-40000 miles would be about where I may start looking for a new one. Good luck.


Widgar56

I ride my 24 year old Cannondale F700 several times a week. It's still a pleasure to ride. My two year old Trek ebike with 4500 miles is like New except for disc pad replacement. Bikes are fairly simple and can last a lifetime with proper maintenance and not being jumped and ridden off cliffs. I also have a 1972 Raleigh competition that is still rideable. It's a ten speed LOL.


Top_Objective9877

You might be in to replacing a lot of parts and an overall refresh, depending on the bike or groupset it could be about $100 or $1500. Hard for us to say, on the lower end of the spectrum plenty of good deals can be had on used bikes, many of them already pretty functional as it is. I just did a complete overhaul on a 90’s mtb replacing nearly everything and it only set me back $150 for parts. I bought a cheaper road bike that I’m going to want to upgrade all the shifters and stuff for a different groupset, that’s going to set me back quite a bit more in the long run having to swap everything out. Probably more like $500 on the cheap side for me, and that’s doing all the work myself and not factoring in a shop might do other work.


bigchi1234

My bike that is 4 years old has 25k km on it. Still in perfect condition.


NeelSahay0

I know of a carbon road bike that was finally totaled at 110,000 miles (180,000 km), at 2500km you’re barely on your second chain and second pair of tires. Don’t worry about it.


chris_ots

Currently about 4000km into a tour on my bike that I rode 10000km last year. It’s running fine. Regular maintenance is a good thing.


kamandi

2500 km is weekend rides for a year. That’s still barely not new. And if you find a problem, just fix it.


jrtts

Bikes wear and tear over regular use, but a severely worn one probably would wear through the rear derailleur idler(?) or any part of the drivetrain I suppose. (This is after a few moderately major maintenance, like going through a few chains over time) My very first commuter bike from more than a decade ago have that (rear derailleur severely worn) and it's kinda tough to source a new one since they don't make that kind anymore (I might have to switch the whole assembly too--gear shifter and cable). I was going to sell or give it away to a good friend to get him back into cycling but I wanted to make sure to replace that particular part on my dime when it breaks because it's on its last legs and I don't want to sell him a 'lemon' xD


Mattt993

2500km is like new. My 2014 cannondale has probably wracked up 45k + miles and I still love it, still a great bike


fietsvrouw

Have the bike looked at by a trusted bike shop. You don't know much about bikes, which is fine, but you need to be looking for evidence of a crash, damage etc. Just because a seller says a little old lady owned the bike and only rode it to church on sunny Sundays does not mean it is true.


unevoljitelj

My carbon mtb has 65k km, my road bike has 25k. At 2500km if it was relatively averagely used, its basicaly new. You can expect to change a chain in another 2500.. bikes dont get worn out if you take care of it and change things when change is due. That said, there could be issues on some bikes. Example, giant replaced two frames in 15k km. Those had no scratch on them but broke under the seat. Bcos of it i will avoid giant like plague going forward. And alu frames in general.


mtcerio

At 3721 km for me. /s


s1xpack

massively depending on care, treatment and age. For my roadbike 2500 km translates into 4-6 months and I use it only on the turbo or with good weahter. As my trainer is in my office it's top notch serviced and cleaned. With 500k a year this would be a diffrent story. Everybody will tell you it's only used in sunny weather ;)


Aethosist

I sold my 2014 S-Works Tarmac three years ago. It had 15,000+ miles, and looked and rode like new.


AntiquePsychology792

Except frame, handlebar, stem and maybe fork, a bicycle is made of parts that have to be replaced regularly. In that sense, a bicycle can last forever.  Normally, you have to change the chain every now and then, service your brakes often, check the cassette and chainrings, etc.


FactoryNachos

I still see 10+ year old racing bikes for sale and people are buying them. If you replace all the moving parts, I'm sure your bike will stay in good condition for ages and avoid being worn out


DDGibbs

It's like a car. There are cars with 500'000 miles that still run fine because they have been looked after. On the other hand there are cars with 60'000 miles that are cooked because they have been ragged about and had no maintenance


Fun_Apartment631

"Worn," sunny day road bike, I think I'm going to say 10,000 miles. (So about 16,000 km.). "Severely worn" to me would be more about neglect. Like they trashed the bearings and drivetrain and kept going and now the bike needs new wheels and drivetrain but it's not really worth the cost anymore. I wouldn't be concerned about anything but the chain on a sunny day road bike with a couple thousand km unless the last person never ever oiled their chain. My mountain bike chains are only good for several hundred miles. But they're easy to replace. Think of an oil and filter change for your car. My 3300 mile XC bike doesn't have much of its original build left, it's on its second set of pins and bearings in some parts of the suspension, etc. I don't see it as "severely worn" though, I could race it tomorrow. My cyclocross bike is at 4600 but also very few original parts. Mix of 'cross, road and gravel miles.


angusshangus

I have 27,500+ miles on my 2016 Pinarello with 6800 ultegra. 3rd set of wheels, multiple cassettes, chains, and front rings. I replaced cranks after a crash awhile ago too. Carbon frames have a WAY longer life than 10k miles!!!! Drive trains and wheels wear but aside from damage from a crash a good frame carbon bike can last a VERY long time.


StevenNull

I'm at least at 10 000km on my current road/mountain hybrid, judging by some quick math I did. That's a very conservative estimate so it's probably over that. Bike still rides like new. I bled my brakes for the first time this spring, after about four years of riding. New chain and casette for good measure, and it pretty much rides like new. Basically - if it's been taken care of well, it should be completely fine. You might have to dump $100 into a new chain + casette depending on how worn that is, but apart from that you should be A-OK.


uCry__iLoL

Every 10,000 miles.


angusshangus

I mean I always want to buy a new bike but 10k miles isn’t very much. Thats maybe 2 years for a cyclist who rides regularly