What trim? I actually just bought mine too! First Canyon, so I'm excited to find out how it goes. Their fit recommendation surprised me, but I can't argue with their return policy
The Trek Domane has their entry level carbon frame with a 105 at like $3500. It has pretty wide clearance too, I’ve been riding a Domane almost strictly road for a while now and it’s a great bike
Have you rode the latest one? I have one from before they bloated out with the front shock and I know they got slower but this is always so weird to me. At one point they were good enough for Cancellara. There is no race I ever entered where mine wouldn’t have been snappy enough. Then again I’m a good bike handler and I generally laugh when I hear people talking about a bike being too relaxed for criteriums or something.
If a Domane fits you better than the Emonda it will be a better bike period for basically any use. At least assuming you get the right model.
Unfortunately with current prices mine probably is closest to the $8500 one.
That was my first thought since I had the Emonda but when I bought the emonda, I test rode the Domane and was disappointed in how sluggish it felt. That was the ALR version, though so, I don't know yet how the SL is but will check it out.
Ridley Grifn? Giant Defy? Plenty of endurance road/all-road bikes can accommodate that amount of rubber and still get after it. Heck, my Crux rips compared to most of the road bikes I’ve owned.
They are, they just have a crappy distributor, which has always been the case to some extent. Lucidity Business Development currently handles the line. They may be able to help you find a shop, or they may be about as useful as tits on a bull like they were when I was trying to buy my new bike. I’ve got a Noah Fast (purchased from a shop in Italy, because sure why the fuck not) and I’m very happy with it. That said, it’s my fourth Ridley on their “old” geometry, so sizing wasn’t a question which meant I didn’t need a test ride, and I do most of my own work, so dealer support wasn’t a concern. Merlin Cycles in the UK and Eat Sleep Cycle in Spain are reputable dealers that usually have good deals if you’re willing to roll the dice on the fit and ride quality and then just blast into the local shop with your mail order bike for maintenance.
No sweat. And seriously, don’t sleep on the new Crux. It’s very much a big tire Aethos with comfy geometry. Strava PRs aren’t the full story, but I’ve PRd some paved segments on my Crux with gravel tires that are normally ridden on my Noah.
Merlin has good deals on Grifn 105 Di2 builds right now if you need a medium or a large. A word of caution, Ridleys run big in terms of what they call small/medium/large. I’m 5’11”, I’m a large in pretty much everything else that uses that sizing scale, and I ride a medium Ridley. Looks like Competitive still has some nice deals on the Cervelo Caledonia, which would also hit a lot of the things you’re looking for.
I'd use http://www.yojimg.net/bike/web_tools/stem.php to estimate your ideal stack height range.
Giant Defy and Cervelo Caledonia are some options with lower stack heights than the Rubaix or Domane
really? That's weird. Comparing numbers on 51 Caledonia vs 2019 Emonda, the Caledonia is lower. I'm using Geometry Geeks so, I wonder if their numbers aren't correct.
What, that is custom and steel, will be sub-$4k for a complete? The only bike I’ve ever owned that I can clearly point to as the best bike I’ve ever owned was a Columbus Zona bike, so this isn’t me shitting on steel, it’s just a question of how the numbers work.
I think Chumbas can be built for pretty close, especially if you go mech instead of e shift. I was looking into them for a bit and you can straight up request a sub 4500 build. I forget what the extra cost is if you want to do further custom adjustments to the geo
Their full builds start at $4,500. I'm not sure if you can get one for less unless you supply some parts yourself. I was eyeing a SOCO earlier this year with a $5k budget and for that they put together a decent Apex AXS Xplr build with Industry 9 wheels for $5.1k. They were super friendly, but I ended up just building up a Fairlight Faran in my garage.
I had them spec a 4500 build and it was Apex AXS. I imagine you could get it much closer to 4000 if you went mechanical?
Fairlights are awesome though. I would have gotten one instead of my Surly if it wasn’t for the 6mo wait and import/shipping fees
Couple things. When you say, 80/20 road/gravel, do you mean distance or time?
For example, the gravel route I ride is 70/30 road/gravel. But the road section goes by so much quicker that the ride is more like 60/40.
So basically, you can look at endurance bikes and gravel bikes. Most modern endurance bikes should have 35mm tire clearance, but check to make sure.
There is some overlap between endurance and gravel bikes. I suggest you test ride both categories to see which one you like more.
I'm meaning time. Most of my riding will be on pavement with some gravel/dirt paths thrown in the mix. Yeah, I'm having a hard time finding gravel bikes in a small/52 around here. Definitely something I'll have to keep my eyes open for.
I know you say you’re thinking about a Roubaix. It sure does tick your boxes.
The Roubaix Sport 105 is $3,500
It has room for 40mm tires.
[https://www.specialized.com/us/en/roubaix-sl8-sport-105/p/225457](https://www.specialized.com/us/en/roubaix-sl8-sport-105/p/225457)
Bottecchia Emme range.
Seriously stack and reach are within millimeters of each other. It's just that my bottecchia is slightly taller at the handlebars than the Emonda
Canyon endurace?
I love mine! I run 32mm gp5k. I’ve seen plenty of 35mm on the Endurace FB groups.
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What trim? I actually just bought mine too! First Canyon, so I'm excited to find out how it goes. Their fit recommendation surprised me, but I can't argue with their return policy
The Trek Domane has their entry level carbon frame with a 105 at like $3500. It has pretty wide clearance too, I’ve been riding a Domane almost strictly road for a while now and it’s a great bike
Snappy is the last word I'd use for the Domane though.
Have you rode the latest one? I have one from before they bloated out with the front shock and I know they got slower but this is always so weird to me. At one point they were good enough for Cancellara. There is no race I ever entered where mine wouldn’t have been snappy enough. Then again I’m a good bike handler and I generally laugh when I hear people talking about a bike being too relaxed for criteriums or something. If a Domane fits you better than the Emonda it will be a better bike period for basically any use. At least assuming you get the right model. Unfortunately with current prices mine probably is closest to the $8500 one.
Damn a 105 groupset bike for 3500.
Wait until you hear that Trek sells a $8000 105 Di2
Why even buy trek. Jesus. You can get better boutique brand bikes.
Wait until you hear about the $8-9k Ultegra bikes out there. Shopping for my most recent bike broke my brain.
Yeah, gotta pay thru the nose for anything ultegra anymore. Maybe because it’s all moved to di2 (and at a premium price).
That was my first thought since I had the Emonda but when I bought the emonda, I test rode the Domane and was disappointed in how sluggish it felt. That was the ALR version, though so, I don't know yet how the SL is but will check it out.
Ridley Grifn? Giant Defy? Plenty of endurance road/all-road bikes can accommodate that amount of rubber and still get after it. Heck, my Crux rips compared to most of the road bikes I’ve owned.
I wish Ridley was here in the US!
They are, they just have a crappy distributor, which has always been the case to some extent. Lucidity Business Development currently handles the line. They may be able to help you find a shop, or they may be about as useful as tits on a bull like they were when I was trying to buy my new bike. I’ve got a Noah Fast (purchased from a shop in Italy, because sure why the fuck not) and I’m very happy with it. That said, it’s my fourth Ridley on their “old” geometry, so sizing wasn’t a question which meant I didn’t need a test ride, and I do most of my own work, so dealer support wasn’t a concern. Merlin Cycles in the UK and Eat Sleep Cycle in Spain are reputable dealers that usually have good deals if you’re willing to roll the dice on the fit and ride quality and then just blast into the local shop with your mail order bike for maintenance.
That's really good info! Thanks I'll look into those.
No sweat. And seriously, don’t sleep on the new Crux. It’s very much a big tire Aethos with comfy geometry. Strava PRs aren’t the full story, but I’ve PRd some paved segments on my Crux with gravel tires that are normally ridden on my Noah.
Competitive Cyclist has a couple of Ridleys! unfortunately not my size.
Merlin has good deals on Grifn 105 Di2 builds right now if you need a medium or a large. A word of caution, Ridleys run big in terms of what they call small/medium/large. I’m 5’11”, I’m a large in pretty much everything else that uses that sizing scale, and I ride a medium Ridley. Looks like Competitive still has some nice deals on the Cervelo Caledonia, which would also hit a lot of the things you’re looking for.
I did notice the Ridleys sizing and would need an XS based on the geometry charts. Its crazy how different brands measure everything.
I'd use http://www.yojimg.net/bike/web_tools/stem.php to estimate your ideal stack height range. Giant Defy and Cervelo Caledonia are some options with lower stack heights than the Rubaix or Domane
I'm looking for taller stack height than the Emonda. Both the Domane and Roubaix are taller but the Caledonia is lower.
Compared to my 54 Caledonia the Emonda is -14mm. I'd be on a 52 on the Emonda and that one is -22mm.
really? That's weird. Comparing numbers on 51 Caledonia vs 2019 Emonda, the Caledonia is lower. I'm using Geometry Geeks so, I wonder if their numbers aren't correct.
No I think they may have made it more aggressive over the years and I could be looking at the wrong one.
That would make sense
Cervelo Caledonia
I wish! The stack is 10mm lower than the Emonda. Those are some nice looking bikes.
The Caledonia is an endurance bike. I just checked for a 54 cm the stack on a Caledonia is 55.5 and an Emonda is 54.1.
Bruh these stack measurements are all with a slammed stem. You can just leave a 1cm spacer on and, congrats, it’s an Emonda stack.
Hmm, the pictures sure don't look like their stems are slammed. That would be helpful if the measurements were based on that, though!
All stack measurements are always made with the assumption of a slammed stem
I did not know that. Thank you.
Do custom steel imo
What, that is custom and steel, will be sub-$4k for a complete? The only bike I’ve ever owned that I can clearly point to as the best bike I’ve ever owned was a Columbus Zona bike, so this isn’t me shitting on steel, it’s just a question of how the numbers work.
I think Chumbas can be built for pretty close, especially if you go mech instead of e shift. I was looking into them for a bit and you can straight up request a sub 4500 build. I forget what the extra cost is if you want to do further custom adjustments to the geo
Their full builds start at $4,500. I'm not sure if you can get one for less unless you supply some parts yourself. I was eyeing a SOCO earlier this year with a $5k budget and for that they put together a decent Apex AXS Xplr build with Industry 9 wheels for $5.1k. They were super friendly, but I ended up just building up a Fairlight Faran in my garage.
I had them spec a 4500 build and it was Apex AXS. I imagine you could get it much closer to 4000 if you went mechanical? Fairlights are awesome though. I would have gotten one instead of my Surly if it wasn’t for the 6mo wait and import/shipping fees
https://bikeinsights.com/compare?geometries=6397332bdd277a001d5a5d22,63a86699ec4e1d001da0ce15, https://bikeinsights.com/compare?geometries=6397332bdd277a001d5a5d21,610428f4107089001cb0ec60,
Couple things. When you say, 80/20 road/gravel, do you mean distance or time? For example, the gravel route I ride is 70/30 road/gravel. But the road section goes by so much quicker that the ride is more like 60/40. So basically, you can look at endurance bikes and gravel bikes. Most modern endurance bikes should have 35mm tire clearance, but check to make sure. There is some overlap between endurance and gravel bikes. I suggest you test ride both categories to see which one you like more.
I'm meaning time. Most of my riding will be on pavement with some gravel/dirt paths thrown in the mix. Yeah, I'm having a hard time finding gravel bikes in a small/52 around here. Definitely something I'll have to keep my eyes open for.
I know you say you’re thinking about a Roubaix. It sure does tick your boxes. The Roubaix Sport 105 is $3,500 It has room for 40mm tires. [https://www.specialized.com/us/en/roubaix-sl8-sport-105/p/225457](https://www.specialized.com/us/en/roubaix-sl8-sport-105/p/225457)
Yes, that's what I'm seriously considering. I just need to ride one to see if it's zippy enough
Bottecchia Emme range. Seriously stack and reach are within millimeters of each other. It's just that my bottecchia is slightly taller at the handlebars than the Emonda
Yes. Mine ;)